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25 Aug 2020 00:52:54
TOR: William Nylander and Kasperi Kapanen
EDM: Evan Bouchard and Jesse Puljujarvi.
1.) 25 Aug 2020 06:34:25
Ed not trading bouchards.
2.) 25 Aug 2020 09:53:46
Bouchard will be traded before nylander is.
3.) 25 Aug 2020 09:53:57
Really Russian I’ve seen a few rumours that Edmonton is looking to trade Bouchard and a 2nd for Andersen.
4.) 25 Aug 2020 13:38:50
Just like blues were going to trade parayko for nylander. or thomad for patches.
5.) 25 Aug 2020 16:44:56
Bouchard is a good prospect. Much like the Leafs, Edmonton needs to start winning yesterday. Holland is going to need to start moving futures to find a way to make the team better before they lose McDavid to free agency. I know of at least one team that will abandon their entire future plans just to make a splash signing the biggest UFA to ever hit the market.
22 Aug 2020 21:55:05
TOR: William Nylander and Travis Dermott
ANA: Rickard Rakell and Josh Manson.
1.) 22 Aug 2020 22:13:13
For the 1 millionth time. Manson sucks. He is worth a 3rd round pick at most. However to put this in your perspective.
Nylander >> Rackell
Dermott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manson.
2.) 22 Aug 2020 22:36:30
Does Manson actually suck though or you just think so? Does he suck to you because he doesn't put up attractive offensive numbers? Why does he "suck"?
3.) 23 Aug 2020 00:25:21
Corsi and fenwick both just over 45%
+/ - at -10
And as you mentioned his offensive numbers don’t make up for his lack of defence at all.
Really the only thing he can do is hit. You don’t pay 4 million dollars for that though.
There are much better younger, cheaper, and more controllable players the leafs can target. Also there is no excuse for being a bad player on a bad team because there are guys like Matt Roy and Brandon Montour who are much better and playing on bad teams as well.
4.) 23 Aug 2020 01:11:24
2 words
Advanced stats.
5.) 23 Aug 2020 01:18:51
He fails the eye test
He fails the analytics test
And he fails the classic stats test.
6.) 23 Aug 2020 02:20:10
He sucks according to anybody with any knowledge of hockey lol. It isn't just him. He's rapidly declined over the past few years and will continue too. Even if Dubas got one season out of Manson it would be short lived. He can't skate, he's got no offensive presence, etc. He's just brutal in a lot of ways these days.
In what world do you even think q top line winger is worth an aging defenceman?
20 Jun 2019 10:14:30
Marner won't be getting traded but with all this talk going around.
TOR: Mitchel Marner
NYR: 2019 2nd overall (Kappo Kakko), Brady Skjei.
1.) 20 Jun 2019 11:53:17
Your 1st statement was accurate. The media have created careers for themselves off the backs of Trade rumours and Toronto is the hub that pays them the most. I will always say the media in Toronto has to stop. Any word on Point in Tampa (who) or Tkachuk in Calgary (again, who) but a 3rd liner on the Leafs - Johnsson is getting more coverage.
The frenzy is so bad now that the media claims the entire league is waiting to see what Marner gets paid before their RFA's sign, unbelievable.
2.) 20 Jun 2019 12:05:57
Yup! It's all about Marner getting offer sheets. Yet, the Leafs are kn better cap position than the Lightning lol. Not to mention Point had a much better year than Marner, but he should sign for $9M and Marner $11 haha. The media is insane.
3.) 20 Jun 2019 16:52:05
The reason they say Point signs for less is because of the income taxes in Florida are so low. He will still net the same as Marner after tax.
I feel that’s an unfair advantage to teams located in the lower tax bracket areas. It allows teams to sign players for lower than what they are worth. I don’t know how the league can address that issue, but something should be done. That’s why Tampa is able to get guys like Stamkos for $8.5M or Gourde or Johnston for $5M. It lowers the pay scale and allows them to sign players cheaper, so they can get more quality players than a team in a high tax bracket area. It’s a loophole that teams can take advantage of. The league needs to index the salary cap to income taxes somehow. So a team in a 60% tax area gets $90M cap, while a team in 40% tax area gets an $80M salary cap. That would even things out and make it more fair.
4.) 20 Jun 2019 16:57:44
We don’t get paid, but we are all on this site doing the exact same thing you guys are complaining about. Talking about trade rumours is fun. And it gives you a lot more insight to the game off the ice. I know I’ve learned a lot of things since I’ve joined this site, instead of just reading articles and editorials. It makes you think more instead of just accepting someone else’s word.
11 Jun 2019 22:07:13
TOR: Nazem Kadri, Nikita Zaitsev
DAL: Radek Faksa, Julius Honka, 2019 first.
1.) 11 Jun 2019 22:36:27
I could almost see Dallas doing this. They can use Kadri. Honka is looking more and more like a bust. But at least he’s not Zaitsev. He might end up making the nhl in some sort of depth capacity one day. Faksa is an adequate replacement for Kadri and plays better defense. Might be asking for too much including the 1st, especially if we are dumping Zaitsev on them, but then again, who knows. We don’t have a 1st this year anymore, so would be nice to get back into that top round again.
If Dallas does this, I think it’s an easy yes for the Leafs.
2.) 11 Jun 2019 23:20:47
Boy these pro-Leaf posters are trying to peddle Kadri and Zaitzev to every team in the NHL with no success due to over valuing their worth. Soon they will try to unload these two overrated players to teams in the KHL.
3.) 12 Jun 2019 01:14:23
At least they got enough balls to put up a proposal and expose themselves to criticism from sideshow commentators that are too unimaginative to come up with something themselves. It’s a Leaf forum. What did you expect?
4.) 12 Jun 2019 01:26:44
The irony in your comment IslandJet is outstanding bye.
5.) 12 Jun 2019 03:37:20
You're complaining about pro-Leaf posters on a website called Leafs rumours. Sorta comes with the territory you've chosen to visit.
26 May 2019 01:19:10
TOR: Zaitsev, Kadri
CBJ: Wennberg (1M retained), Josh Anderson
I'm going based on the fact that Wennberg was a healthy scratch throughout the playoffs and would be a cap dump for them. I personally like his game and it would be a cheap 3C at 3.9M AAV. He's also played really well with Willy on his wing for Sweden this tournament. They get Kadri who plays their style with term left on his contract and a very good AAV.
TOR: Johnsson, Marleau, 2020 2nd, Timashov, Borgman
ANA: Manson
Anaheim will be looking to rebuild, they'll be able to sign Johnsson to term and keep him for the future.
(Marleau would be bought out and San Jose would sign him to a 1 year, $1M contract)
TOR: Kapanen
CAR: Pesce
This trade just makes too much sense for me. Carolina needs scoring and the leafs need a cheap RHD.
Projected Lines:
Hyman (2.25)-Tavares (11)-Marner (10)
Mikheyev (.9)-Matthews (11.6)-Anderson (2)
Nylander (7)-Wennberg (3.9)-Bracco (.9)
Marchment (.8)-Gauthier (.7)-Moore (.8)
Petan (.75)
Rielly (5)-Manson (4.1)
Muzzin (4)-Pesce (4)
Rosen (.75)-Dermott (.9)
Holl (.7)
Anderson (5)
Sparks (.75)
Kessel (1.2)
Total Cap: (78.9)
1.) 26 May 2019 16:13:42
Marleau has a 35+ contract. So if he’s bought out, the full amount still counts against the cap. I can’t see Ducks being willing to do that. They don’t have a lot of cap space themselves. They can’t afford to take on over $6M in salary for a player who isn’t even going to be playing.
2.) 26 May 2019 16:33:03
Wennberg had an off year last year and moving to a new team is probably just what he needs. However that said, I would rather keep Kadri since he is a proven NHL center on a great contract. Also there are already a lot of bad contracts in Columbus (Dubinsky, Foligno to name a couple), so I don't think they will want Zaitsev.
Take out Johnsson in the Manson deal and flip Manson after for a cheaper option, then you have got yourself a deal. Also Marleau isn't going to waive his NMC to go to a rebuilder so I doubt this goes through anyway.
We cannot afford Pesce at the moment, but Kapanen for Pulock I would love to see.
3.) 26 May 2019 18:31:57
If Anaheim is looking to rebuild, it wouldn't take much to shed off salary to acquire future assets. I also mentioned that Marleau would be signing with San Jose after being bought out, he'd waive his NMC for it. You also say we cannot afford Pesce but I just showed our salary cap and we'd be way below it.
4.) 26 May 2019 19:06:19
Saying Wennberg had a down year last season is a little gentle. Lol. He did terrible, and was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. He had a bad year the session prior as well. It’s starting to become a trend.
Wennberg has all the signs of a player that needs a change of scenery. And since Zaitsev kinda falls into that category too, hey, it could be a good trade. We all want to get rid of Zaitsev. At this point I’d rather have the Leafs take a chance on Wennberg than keep Zaitsev. Losing Kadri hurts obviously, but that’s ok. Anderson is a damn good player and should be able to replace Kadri’s point production fairly evenly. And you got to love his size.
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08 Mar 2018 08:42:03
What I would like to see the leafs do this offseason. I don't think they'll make any trades for a centre or defencemen. If anything, i think they'll move Nylander to third line centre but it wouldn't be my first choice. I also think they'll try and trade Martin. I'd sign two free agents this off season and also extend one.
Joe Thornton: 1 year, 6M. Little bit of a risk because of his injury but Bozak is going to get a raise and he isn't worth it, and I highly doubt the leafs will sign Jonny T.
John Carlson: 7 years, 8M. All around great defencemen who would make a killer pairing with Rielly.
Leo Komarov: 2 years, 2M. Perfect 4th line guy who is our lead man on the PK. It's a big part of our team and he does it very well.
Projected Lines:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Johnsson-Kadri-Marner
Marleau-Thornton-Kapanen
Komarov-Aaltonen-Brown
Rielly-Carlson
Gardiner-Hainsey
Dermott-Zaitsev.
1.) 09 Mar 2018 09:12:20
I would love Carlson but I'm sure the Rangers have his heart
Bozak is fading
Statsny if you can get a good price point
David Perron Vegas are in tough they have so many players to sign tough choices.
21 Nov 2017 23:00:43
I wanted to get opinions from everyone. Obviously talks are going on about OEL coming to Toronto and Nylander going the other way. I'm not sure if Toronto would have to add but I want to know who would actually make this trade.
1.) 24 Nov 2017 13:26:38
At this point, would hurt our team to aquire OEL. If all goes as planned the leafs D will be one of the best In the leauge. Here's why I say that. And what should happen if all goes as planned (I think)
Sign Igor Ozhiganov from the KHL
He is 6,2 @210lbs. Plays a physical stay at home game and skates well for a big man.
Our d next year if Liljgren makes the leap to the nhl
Reilly Oziganov
Gardiner zaitzev
Hainsey liljgren
That's pretty good if Ozhiganov can transition like zaitzev.
Because of this, and even if it doesn't work out this way, we keep nylander. Every one is saying he's playing like crap without Matthews but that would happen to anyone who moved to a lesser talented line. Give him a couple more to adjust to bozak and JVR and you will see a breakout in offence.
In addition this also helps with everyone's next concern which is signing the big three.
We will be spending around 25mill on out back end including the goalie. That a pretty good back end for 25mill.
2.) 26 Nov 2017 21:05:47
OEL will be staying with the Yotes, the team might move.
OEL is their best player, their only true star. They are not trading him.
@MatC
Shhh! We don't need other teams plucking him away from us (even if we have an inside edge) . Just remember what happened with Panarin.
He's certainly not a point getter. But he passes well, hits, and fights.
If he doesn't make it, nothing lost.
This is Nylander's contract year coming up. Time for him to show what he can do. It's all on him. It could seriously affect what he gets in money.
Similar to Kadri; he could be in for a bridge deal. What he's done so far this year isn't worth 5-6 M. Neither for Marner.
But we'll see with the big three. Bridge deals will help lock them up with the Leafs in control. 3 year bridges followed by 8 year full contracts. That should cover their careers.
02 Oct 2017 05:36:25
Everyone keeps talking about the leafs trading JVR, Bozak and Komarov. They won't be traded half way through the season, and if they're in a playoff spot, you can guarantee they won't be traded. They'll let all three of them walk after the year is done. If the leafs feel like they are a playoff team, why would they trade them? You might say to get a return instead of nothing but teams give up first rounder for rentals at the deadline for the playoffs. Even if they have no intentions to resign them. They have plenty of prospects to fill in the holes next year, it won't be an issue for them. The only way they'll make a trade is if it's a package for a player who will make our roster this year. I think it'll be a package with JVR for a top 4 d man. That's all.
1.) 02 Oct 2017 22:18:14
thank you somebody understands.
2.) 07 Oct 2017 16:13:15
Thats the pre-cap era of player management.
If JVR or Bozak or Leo want to stay with the Leafs they can sign an extension, even if it's for just one year. That still fits the Leafs window before they have to pay the MNM.
Poor management let's players walk. Those 3 could go and the Leafs will still make the playoffs.
Lou will probably pull a Polak move and trade them only to resign them later.
One year of playoffs where they are not expected to challenge for the cup is a stupid reason to keep them and hurts the future by not getting something for them.
One of the Leafs strengths now is Hunter and his gang of scouts. The Leafs need to use that to their advantage.
07 May 2017 23:31:10
What would it take to pry Madison Bowey off of the Washington Capitals? He seems to be an unreal RHD, young, big, good skating, heavy shot. Seems to me like he's ready to make it up to the big stage aswell.
1.) 08 May 2017 21:04:49
Caps won't give him up. Shattenkirk and Alzner will be leaving and Bowey on a minor league deal would replace one of them.
27 Jan 2017 23:09:40
Just a thought on my opinion with what the leafs should do. The team in general I think has surprised many this year with how well they're doing. It's our first with all the rookies and we're looking really good. If we keep up in this pace I feel like we need to make a big play off push before all the rookies get their big extensions, mainly willy, matthews and marner.
I feel as if we can do this without getting rid of our assets and rushing our future. At the end of this year, we'll roughly have about 17M extra cap. I feel as if it would be of best interest to over pay FA's Shattenkirk and Alzner for just 2 years. This will bolster up our blue line for our last year of cheap contracts, 2018-2019.
Once the contracts are over, we can let those players go and not have any worries because we never paid anything for them. I would also extend polak to another year and see how that goes. Shattenkirk could go for 2 years at 8.5, alzner for 2 years at 6-6.5. Polak maybe 2M. Our defence lines for the next 2 years would look like this:
Rielly-Zaitsev (Well-Rounded)
Gardiner-Shattenkirk (PowerPlay)
Alzner-Polak (Gritty Shutdown PKers)
Everyone feels that dermott and Neilson NEED to come up now and play but there's nothing bad with developing their game in the minors. The coach alrady came out and said they'll need 2 more years, I'd send down Carrick for a bit and let him develop some more and also see how Polak does. If need be, Carrick comes up and polak goes down.
1.) 28 Jan 2017 16:25:14
Shattenkirk and alzner don't want two year deals they want 7 year deals. You ever heard the words job security leafs have no interest in shatenkirk better to go younger . In two years leafs defence depth chart is
Reilly
Zaitsev
Gardener
Nielsen
Greenway
Carrick
Dermott
Vailev
If they trade they want dman 24 or younger. You can see reason for optimism they maybe sign stone this summer from coyotes. Then major trade will bring another top 4. Soon we are not going to be worrying about defenceman and bet your house leafs draft a good one this summer.
23 Aug 2020 04:12:05
Roy is probably one of the guys I'm most keen on getting but it would be to play on the second pair. I don't think just getting him is enough to make a big change that we need. Roy and holl on the second and third pair is a really good start though.
23 Aug 2020 04:09:55
What's the point of trading Kerfoot for a pick though? We're trying to contend. you can say that they'll use that as a piece to get a d man but I don't think the leafs would gamble like that. I think they'd be getting a player in return if they were to trade that third line.
23 Aug 2020 04:09:12
What's the point of trading Kerfoot for a pick though? We're trying to contend. you can say that they'll use that as a piece to get a d man but I don't think the leafs would gamble like that. I think they'd be getting a player in return if they were to trade that third line.
22 Aug 2020 22:36:30
Does Manson actually suck though or you just think so? Does he suck to you because he doesn't put up attractive offensive numbers? Why does he "suck"?
22 Aug 2020 21:56:40
Who wants to sign in Edmonton? Lmao.
08 Apr 2018 04:08:36
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Johnson-Kadri-Marner
Marleau-Thornton-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Aaltonen-Brown
Rielly-Carlson
Gardiner-Hainsey
Dermott-Zaitsev
If there's space, I'd try and sign Komarov to a one year and put him where grundstrom is.
Haven't really checked the cap but I think we could possibly make these FA's happen.
08 Apr 2018 04:04:50
Pittsburgh showed the capability of winning a Stanley cup with no defencemen. The leafs D is not THAT bad. we'll have Rielly, Gardiner and Dermott playing on all 3 pairs next year. Pittsburgh had nowehere near that last year. By having Matthews, Tavares and Kadri, you could roll all three lines that would be top lines on almost any team. If we have a chance to get a top centremen, I'd be down for it.
16 Jun 2017 04:48:53
The problem is that we have 3 absolute studs in Matthews, marner and nylander. They're all game changers who are on really cheap deals for the next 2-3 years. With the leafs trading for a top 4 d man, it'll make us contenders. It's basically just taking advantage of the big 3's cheap contracts.
08 May 2017 16:03:32
Only problem with Kane is that he's a hot head and wouldn't be a good role model for the kids. Great player in my opinion but I don't think management would take the chance on him.
19 Feb 2017 00:00:59
Leivo is a big body but is not fast by any means. His skating is sub par.