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23 Feb 2018 02:02:11
tor-nsh
toronto trades jvr
Nashville trades jarnkrok and a second
in my opinion Nashville is the best team in the league.definitely best defense and could use a winger to play with bonino
forsberg-johansen-arvidsson
fiala-turris-smith
jvr-bonino-fisher
watson-sissons-aberg
this is the lineup nash could use to win the cup
and the leafs get a young player who could play wing and center
1.) 23 Feb 2018 09:00:50
The only issue with trading JVR is who do you fill his spot with? I'm not just talking about the 3LW spot, but that PP unit is built to cycle the puck to the net so JVR can do his thing and JVR it in. Yes, I just used JVR as a verb. Unless a team can come along with something that just blows Lou away, I don't see him moving JVR.
2.) 23 Feb 2018 11:31:15
Marsbars
Leafs have enough depth up front they can solve second unit power play.
Grabner just went for a second and prospect
When time is right you must trade assets you don't plan on keeping this year Jvr and bozak
Next year Gardiner.
3.) 23 Feb 2018 20:25:34
Maybe tor adds pick and nashville removes theirs.
4.) 24 Feb 2018 02:51:16
Jarnkrok has a very good contract. And Preds are tight against salary cap. They would need to move salary back to Toronto in this trade or they go over the cap. Leafs might hold out for a first for JVR, but if no oneiffer a 1st, then this trade has potential. I would take Jarnkrok as our 4C with that week contract if his any day.
07 Feb 2018 01:44:09
Toronto-Nashville
tor trades jvr and leivo and a 2nd
nsh trades jarnkrok
nashville has a lot of depth at center and could use a winger to play with bonino
1.) 07 Feb 2018 14:47:48
Nhl98 liked the trade!
Haha we have some real scouts on this rumor page!
From what i can tell, Lab16 might be the only one who has any idea what teams players play for, and maybe a bit of sense about possible trades
The rest of you are are lost
David Mackin spells like he has been drinking for days.
2.) 07 Feb 2018 18:46:46
And your posts are much like your hairline, of little substance. I’m all for ripping apart terrible proposals, but you’re basically a borderline troll at this point.
3.) 07 Feb 2018 20:58:40
Stop with the "fright show" ScaryD Go back to your lonely page. Nash is beyond his prime; a couple of years back ago. No team in their right mind will trade and take on his money. I don' think so.
4.) 07 Feb 2018 22:12:19
i watch nashville play all the time
and also getting nash would be fine as long as nyr take back some of his salary.
5.) 07 Feb 2018 23:33:49
gcolpitts - It’s pretty clear that you didn’t read my post on Nash. I stated that he wasn’t a fit and merely talked about his perceived value in a hypothetical sense, including the idea of NY retaining salary. Get your rubbish straight before you open your mouth. I’m all for informed, respectful dialogue. you’re just an idiot.
6.) 08 Feb 2018 00:40:47
Nash will get traded and he's still a good player but the leafs fine need him.
7.) 08 Feb 2018 00:41:02
*don't need him.
8.) 08 Feb 2018 10:04:21
Thin-skinned response.
01 Feb 2018 23:36:09
simple trade that addresses the leafs needs
tor-det
1st round pick in 2018 for mike green
mike green is a right shot and will be better than gardiner on the second power play unit
1.) 02 Feb 2018 06:18:57
There has to be a contract and cap going back on any trade. We are at contract limit and have no cap room other than LTIR.
18 Jan 2018 22:32:13
tor-ari
nylander leivo and a 2nd for oel
10/10
1.) 19 Jan 2018 11:38:34
Leafs need to do something add defencemen. But I really hate how nylander and marner r playing. But it's youth.
2.) 19 Jan 2018 12:12:21
I agree. Bothe Nylander and Marner are very young and are going to be very good to excellent players in the NHL. As with many Leaf fans, I would love for them to go deep into this year's playoffs and soon win a cup, but I don't think moving either of them would benefit the Leafs long-term; maybe short term?
I think I would rather see the Leafs give up 1st rd pick, Lievo, and a player form the Marlies, either Bracco or Nielson?
3.) 19 Jan 2018 13:40:23
Gcolpitts.
This draft is very deep leafs can find too 4 defencemen or a second line player where they draft even at 22 or so. Leafs could also draft late teens Boston is going to be tough. And don't discount the way bruins are going they catch Tampa
Leafs exit playoffs in first round probably.
4.) 19 Jan 2018 18:29:38
David Mack in:
Agree, draft is looking strong and deep. I just think where the Leafs are now vs where they were just this time 2 years ago is night and day. Their farm system is deep and rich with great prospects and the current NHL leaf team is very good and they are young and developing. I hope the leafs don't make any knee jerk decisions that will compromise next year and many years to come.
Go leafs!
27 Nov 2017 00:50:19
really looks like leafs will have a crazy cap situation in upcoming seasons and i usualy hear from everybody that jvr, bozak, and komarov have to go to sign the big 3.but when you actually think about it we could keep bozak and jvr which combined have grater value than nylander(i mean production) we could trade nylander and komarov for rhd (pesce). the reason for this trade proposal is to contend for the cup and one thing i realized is that you cannot win a cup with a bunch of kids you need veterans to win.
also jvr and Wayne simmonds are the only two net front presence that can actually play in tight so if we lose jvr we can't simply replace him with leivo(who is not that good)
1.) 27 Nov 2017 13:38:51
Captain Clutch, I agree that JVR should be extended 6 years $5.75 MM. There is monies in two years to accommodate his salary.
Trading Bozak+ Komorov is a reality. Nylander and Marner are not playing to last year's level, and Nylander deserves a long term contract, but not an overpay. So a bridge in the $4 MM area and earning an extension to around $7 MM per annum.
Marner has incredible talent, but the long term contract is presently in the $4.5- $5MM area, Marner is not worth presently for $6.7 MM that everyone has discussed.
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11 Jan 2018 01:44:21
can somebody tell me why the leafs are not signing cody franson
1.) 11 Jan 2018 15:32:31
Cody has played his way out of the NHL.
2.) 12 Jan 2018 02:24:58
hes better than gardiner.
3.) 12 Jan 2018 03:29:14
Leafs are at the 50 contract limit and would have to make a trade in order to free up a contract spot to claim him.
4.) 13 Jan 2018 06:59:00
@ clutch
Cody has become a defensive liability worse than Gardiner. He's lost a step. It happens.
5.) 13 Jan 2018 06:59:00
@ clutch
Cody has become a defensive liability worse than Gardiner. He's lost a step. It happens.
6.) 14 Jan 2018 21:00:25
no he's not a defensive liability gardiner is.
if we are the limit then we just get rid of carrick.
7.) 16 Jan 2018 21:50:54
Franson is big and slow. Just because you’re a right handed shot doesn’t mean you’re NHL worthy. There’s a reason why he hasn’t been signed.
Gardiner has way more offensive upside than Franson ever had.
8.) 21 Jan 2018 00:50:08
Franson used to be good but now he's Roman Polak but worse defensively and soft.
13 Dec 2017 23:46:29
i was reading some replies and i seen lab16 say gardiner has more offense then ryan ellis. that comment that lab made just goes to show you some people just love to say stupid things.nashville is known for their offensive defencman
1.) 14 Dec 2017 16:06:59
Gardiner does have more offense than Ellis. Look it up.
Ryan Ellis:
5'10 fly weight at 180 lbs. Best offensive year was last year, with a team going to the finals at 38 pts. The Offensive game is about all he has to offer.
Gardiner:
A 6'2" 200 lb. great skater, that is a perennial 30+ pt defender that played on a team out of last place the season before and reached 43 pts and an incredible +/ - increase from -15 to +24. Like Ellis, his defensive game is "meh".
The Leafs need a Trouba, Manson type defender not Ellis whose only intimidating feature is his beard.
Gardiner played on the worst of the Leaf teams during the last 6 years and still managed 30 pts (all but the tank year - 24).
Ryan Ellis has not been as good even though he's played on a quality team the last 6 years.
And he's injured this year.
It is plain idiotic, to post a trade, for a long term injured player! There is no guarantee he's not suffered permanent issues.
"Nashville is known for their offensive Dmen" is just about the most moronic comment I've ever heard. Almost none of their defencemen come from the Nashville system. Almost all of them come from other teams systems and/ or Europe (Sweden in particular) . None of them are from the NCAA.
The only player of note on the Preds who came up through their AHL system playing significant time was Ellis (from the OHL), but he's only a 2nd pair Dman at best, getting to pair with Josi for balance reasons. Subban, Ekholm, and Josi are much better defencemen, but they were all developed by others.
Your trade was pathetic. Your reply above was worse, but maybe you can't understand why.
The only person saying stupid things was you.
2.) 15 Dec 2017 20:27:43
OHHHH HEAT.
13 Dec 2017 01:16:52
unfortunately this post isn't a proposal but its something i have been needing to say for a while. people like david mackin, dbone, goaston, lab16, bigwilly, spider have no clue what they are talking about, its almost as if they don't even watch the leafs play. one thing that has to be made clear is that david mackin is always puting bozak in his proposals with absolutely no good return and no replacement.
i would like to conclude with a simple question and i hope people answer this in the comment section below. what team has the best top 4 dman in the league.
based of the response it will be easy to tell the level of your hockey knowledge.
1.) 13 Dec 2017 14:48:46
Let's see, you've made 1 post in the last 6 months, and it was bad.
More like Private Clutch.
2.) 13 Dec 2017 23:35:15
yeah that's correct right one post in the past 6 months
your high on something.
3.) 14 Dec 2017 16:24:29
Yes your profile shows how little you have posted trades, if any of them are even yours.
4.) 14 Dec 2017 23:12:43
i don't post a lot but when i do its always the next best proposal that has been seen on this site.
5.) 15 Dec 2017 13:05:38
I see, a legend in your own mind.
Live the fantasy!
Wow.
6.) 17 Dec 2017 00:13:46
First, thank you for including me in a group of people whose opinion I actually respect, even though we may not always agree.
Second. My bad. I thought this was a forum for Leaf fans to exchange thoughts, ideas, opinions and have a little fun on, not for small minded people to ridicule, berate and generally just bash other members on.
Third. In MY humble opinion, it is a toss up between the Flames and the Preds, though based on per cap hit value, I would have to give the nod to the Jackets. Have a wonderful day CC.
7.) 18 Dec 2017 00:35:10
i respect that but your still wrong.
11 Dec 2017 22:22:50
tor-nsh
toronto trades nylander dermott and bozak and a 1st for ryan ellis and calle jarnkrok.
hyman-matthews-brown
komarov-kadri-marleau
jvr-jarnkrok-marner
martin-moore-kappanen
rielly-ellis
gardiner-zaitsev
borgman-hainsey
another genius trade form your own
captain clutch
1.) 12 Dec 2017 07:10:14
So terrible I cannot even think of how stupid to make you sound.
2.) 13 Dec 2017 01:03:24
honestly some people are not that intelligent (bigwilly) tell me what is so stupid about that proposal.
3.) 13 Dec 2017 15:15:40
Jarnkrok is a 3rd line center at best and more likely a 4th line center. He's small and ineffective along the boards.
There's a reason he got a 6 year deal at 2M - HE'S NOT THAT GOOD!
Ryan Ellis is a small light weight Dman who has less offense than Gardiner.
Again, there is a reason he signed a 5 year deal in 2014 for 2.5 M - HE'S NOT THAT GOOD!
You want to trade a 1st year 61 pt rookie, a prospect who will be better than Ellis, Bozak; a 2nd line center who's points creep into 1st line center territory. AND A 1st.
The deal is just plain IDIOTIC.
I don't know if I can put it any nicer than that.
4.) 18 Dec 2017 00:39:22
so your basically saying that his contract shows he's no that good. look at roman josi and wayne simminods contracts are they bad too.
5.) 18 Dec 2017 15:18:42
Burnt Clutch:
$2.5M is what you give a 3rd line Dman (after his 3 year ELC and two slides), not a first or second pair. Good enough to fill 3rd pair or 7th Dman.
Josi's 7 year $4M contract (right off his ELC) on a budget team was a big signing back in 2013 for Nashville. And it falls in line with most good D signings back then.
Philadelphia's, Simmons signed a 6 year, 3.975 M contract with 2015 NTC clauses right after his ELC and one slide. Simmons game was inconsistent with only 1 good season before the contract, and he has been stellar since. The Flyers took a chance on him and won.
You seriously have to be joking if you think those are bad contracts.
Ellis, to his credit, has gotten better than that contract, but he's still a 3rd pair Dman and possibly a 2nd pair under the best of conditions.
05 Dec 2017 00:15:21
william nylander has to go. leafs management probably agree with me and are in the middle of making a trade that gets rid of that overrated guy.So what my question is how much can we get for this overrated player.
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20 Mar 2018 02:17:12
your nuts if you think ellis will take that money he's at least a 7 million dollar player.
20 Mar 2018 02:16:24
your nuts if you think ellis will take that money
hes a 7 million dollar player.
20 Mar 2018 02:14:40
jvr scores a lot of goals for the amount of ice time he gets
sign him for 6.5 and trade nylander.
15 Mar 2018 00:32:50
im going to safely assume your joking
and that's a trade you cannot pull of even in nhl 18
but your a funny guy and that's all that matters.
23 Feb 2018 01:52:36
even if the islanders don't hang up laughing the trade sucks.
captain clutch's banter replies
28 Feb 2018 01:31:57
the amount of years for marner should be 8 years and nylander should take 5.5M at 7 years.
14 Jan 2018 21:00:25
no he's not a defensive liability gardiner is.
if we are the limit then we just get rid of carrick.
12 Jan 2018 02:26:08
i say nylander, gardiner and a 1st should het the job done.
12 Jan 2018 02:24:58
hes better than gardiner.
03 Jan 2018 03:59:08
why trade jvr?