Leafs Talk

05 Jun 2020 17:29:41
New change to the playoffs. Again.

Apparently they will re-seed each position following each round, rather than have teams play through a bracketed format.

Not sure how much difference it will make for us. We probably won't get past the first preliminary play in round anyway.

04 Jun 2020 04:47:37
I really don't think athletes should be forced into making statements on social subjects that don't directly impact the game. Trump, BLM, riots, the virus, politics. These are macro level concepts that for the most part are out of the players hands, and in large part, that they aren't educated on enough to make a qualified statement. They probably know less than most of us because they aren't on their phones and tvs constantly. They actually work out at a gym and can afford to do things and go places. And when they aren't busy practicing or playing or training, or watching games and video, they are at home doing family things. They aren't reading The Economist or getting tutorials on racism every weekend. They don't have the qualifications. They aren't experts. And so when you see guys issuing statements, then being roasted for them, you got to wonder if it was best they keep their mouth shut. Why are they forced to say something that they literary have no experience or knowledge about?

Doug Gimour of all people had to redact his original blackout post because it contained a # to BLM. He almost certainly has no idea who BLM are, other than that there name has been mentioned a lot as part of the riots.

Innocent mistakes are ruining people's reputations.

04 Jun 2020 17:11:27
I agree everyone should probably just keep their mouths ha shut for the most part.

My favorite statement awhile back was from Peyton Manning. When Michael Vick was caught with his dog fighting ring, they ask Peyton about it. The only thing he says is "that's unfortunate to hear. Hope it works out for Michael".

I will add on though, condemning the original act that sparked this doesn't bother me. Everyone should have a problem with it. But for every athlete to comment on every political situation I don't agree with. Do your job. Play the game.

05 Jun 2020 15:57:38
Of course saying the original act was senseless and brutal. Anyone that denies that is going to be living in a fantasy land. But to have reporters hounding you to make a statement beyond that is ridiculous. I don't know what the stats are on the States. I can believe the racism is rampant because I read the news. But I have no idea what to do about it or even how to approach talking about the subject without making myself sound foolish. I'm a nobody. These guys aren't. Forcing someone to say something about a topic they don't have much experience or knowledge of is a way of trying to get them to say something silky so they can make even more "news" from the comments.

05 Jun 2020 16:54:03
I mostly just don't want to hear about this anymore Everytime I turn on sports centre lol. We all have our political and philosophical views we could argue about until the day we die. Athletes are not any better equipped to deal with these subjects than we are. They are payed to play a game for a living.

01 Jun 2020 16:26:43
Looking at what Kreider signed for, I think he's a very fair comparable for Hyman. So Kreider signed for 7x$6.5M. I have a feeling that is around what Hyman is going to be looking for. Leafs can't afford that. I really don't see how it's possible to re-sign both Andersen and Hyman. I know I'd rather keep Hyman, but we probably really need Andersen a lot more.

01 Jun 2020 19:16:06
Big difference in the two players Kreider is payed to score goals Hyman is paid to be a grinder and kill penalties.

01 Jun 2020 20:40:33
Hyman has almost identical stats. They are very similar players. Kreider brings the same element to the game as Hyman. They are very fair comparables.

01 Jun 2020 21:02:00
Can't really say that Leafs1994. Hyman has scored more every year. He was riding high this year especially. Kreider and Hyman are good comparables. Hyman on the open market could probably get a bit more same as Kreider could have. They are essentially top 6 wingers that can fit on any line with any team in the league. That's a very rare quality.

02 Jun 2020 19:24:57
Hyman may be one of the few types of players that take a decent discount to play in toronto. Fingers crossed anyways.

03 Jun 2020 00:27:10
I really hope so Randy. One thing to consider is that we have an active Jewish community in Toronto where other places may not. Jewish hockey players are actually rare (yes I'm Jewish lol) so my hope is he takes a discount. Hyman is absolutely the type of player we need right now. Trading Kapanen or Hyman would be a mistake imo for the same reason.

03 Jun 2020 03:17:22
If we can get Hyman for $5.5 or less, we better sign him Nd trade of any one else on the team except Reilly.

03 Jun 2020 19:14:36
Reilly would be the one to trade imo. He is by far my favorite leafs player but doesn't fit in anymore unless Dermott or Muzzin get traded. Currently having 3 top 4LHD possibly another one in Sandin very soon. Someone switches sides or I think you need to trade Reilly instead of just letting him walk in 2 years.

04 Jun 2020 02:50:31
I would rather see them trade our UFA's then let them walk for nothing. It's poor asset management. Especially knowing that we need to keep the process going. A constant influx of players is going to be needed if Dubas' is going to keep the big four together and Andersen. It's either that or we age out over time and end up like SJ and never win a cup despite having some of the best players in the world on the team.

04 Jun 2020 22:51:51
Hyman will get a bit of a raise probably around 3.7-4.5 mill as well the deal will be longer in favour of lower pay, he was born into a rich family I doubt he needs the money he just wants to play and would take a discount as he repsects his team unlike selfish marner.

05 Jun 2020 16:59:31
Lol. Now Marner is selfish along with Nylander.

If I went to work tomorrow and told my boss I want 10000$/ hr would I be selfish? Nope. I would be a guy asking to be paid what I think I'm worth. If my boss agreed and went bankrupt it's because he's an idiot.

Marner asked for what he believes he is worth. As much as I would trade Marner for the overpay I don't fault him. Dubas signed that deal. Shanny approved it. Both shanny and Dubas should be fired for not predicting an issue in signing MNM+JT.

If Reilly asks to be paid 10/ 7 is he selfish? Nope. Dubas set the president that he will pay anyone what they ask for. He now has to live with those consequences.

31 May 2020 14:13:15
So a Sunday morning Tear down and rebuild to get the blood flowing! Might as well because this team has done FU