Leafs Talk

07 Dec 2025 02:18:22
Garbage 🗑️ effort at home vs Habs on a Saturday night
They suck you in after a few good games then resort to the rubbish show they truly are

Matthews looks miserable he misses his little buddy feeding him pucks
Nylander looks disinterested as he has tuned out the coach


Relying on secondary scoring for a prolonged time leaves you out of the playoffs

Hildeby will get hurt Monday night because that's how Berube runs the goalies
Clueless

07 Dec 2025 08:29:17
Mathews couldn't score with his buddy last year.

Willy looks like Willy. We all know how he is. He does seem to hate berube though.

07 Dec 2025 22:41:06
It looked like a berube style game last night not much happened most of the game they had every chance to win that game also why are you complaining about depth scoring it’s the one thing this team has been dying for the last 10 years.

When it comes to Matthews we need to understand that he will never be the 60 goal guy simply because berube wants him to be ROR

Nylander is clearly hurt there’s no speed in his game and he has had a rough time trying to handle the puck

The biggest issue with this team is the power play it’s sucks the life out of the leafs but they refuse to fire savard or come up with a different strategy all and all I think right now the leafs are fine with how bad the Atlantic is if we have another week like last week they will be in a playoff spot.

04 Dec 2025 12:03:28
If leafs go after Blake Coleman another american player, I'm switching teams...how many Americans can be on an ontario team...u guys don't see a pattern of America domination, it's sickening...I never met an American I liked an if they get Coleman I'm finally throwing in the towel on the leafs...if leafs somehow win the cup, it will be because of the Americans on the team, I can see the headlines now.

04 Dec 2025 22:07:16
How about if they get both Tkathuk's for Robertson and a 3rd?

01 Dec 2025 18:26:04
The only players being traded will be, woll or stolarz, id keep woll myself, carlo and one of either maccelli or domi...i think it will be maccelli.


So stolarz, maccelli, carlo for one or the other a top 6 forward or a top 4 puck mover, i wouldnt try for both this season, cause i think youd have to include knies and that would be a huge mistake..



I really think a goalie will be moved cause i think leafs are testing there goalies they were or not been injured...its to see who can handle everything gd and bad of the leafs organization...i thought they were wrong bringing in stolarz cause woll was gd enough, could have wasted 3+ on something else plus i think hildeby could have holded the fort on backup..leafs im seeing a pattern when it comes to goalies..the make them play too long in the minors...hildeby is ready..this has been the norm for the leafs...ill never deter from the fact that hockey is fixed...

02 Dec 2025 12:59:39
You want to trade half the tandem, when neither one is a proven starter of 50+ games and both have had injury issues. That should not even be discussed unless EDM loses their minds and decides to seriously overpay for a goalie finally.

05 Dec 2025 17:51:35
Today I am glad they didn't trade a goalie.

30 Nov 2025 15:48:06
Good game by Hildeby. Leafs finished on their opportunities including many guys who needed a good offensive night like Joshua, McMann, Roy, Domi and Robertson.

Robertson though is the one that really caught my eye, but not for how good the goal was, which it was a nice steal and quick snipe. I gave him credit when he got to the top 6 and produced. I said he is taking advantage of the opportunity and good on him. He hustles, he works hard and he battles for his size. He has been in a slump and got one last night, which is a plus for sure.

What got my attention was in the 3rd, shortly before he scored, camera's scanned the bench and Robertson looked as sour as a guy could look on a struggling team with a big lead in the 3rd. He looked like he was sulking. He wasn't talking to anyone even though Lorentz was closest to him jabbering away like he does. Robertson was sitting a bit off by himself looking totally pissed.
He only got a total of 10 mins of ice last night and was on the 4th line. He made it obvious he wasn't happy about it.

When he scored, I know it was a nothing goal because the game was out of reach, but this is a guy who pretty much celebrates every time he scores no matter what the score. At least he looks happy when he does.

This time, it was obvious he didn't want to celebrate it. Lorentz even tries to pull him in and says something to him that looks like positive congrats and he doesn't seem to want any part of it. It looked like Lorentz knew Robertson was pissed and was trying to encourage him.

I may be reading too much into it, but it looked more like he scored the goal down 7-2 late while they were struggling instead of up big while struggling. It was the body language more than anything that stood out.

If he is sulking, get over it Nick if you want a permanent role. You may have a gripe if thinking why does Domi get a shot on the top line and you demoted to the 4th when you're in a slump. And there is validity to it.

It's a team game though. You're not Matthews, Nylander or JT. You're not a star. Truth is, you're a small mid 6 NHL forward at best and that's when you're playing your best. Otherwise, when you're not playing well and producing, you don't bring enough intangibles, you are a replaceable player. Domi, Joshua, Jarnkrok have all been sat while you kept a spot in the lineup. You're not entitled to a top 6 spot. You have to keep earning it because you're not as great as I believe you think you are. Confidence is great to have, over confidence is not.

If I am misjudging him, that's on me, but body language can tell you a lot about someone and his was not good.

01 Dec 2025 09:17:29
@RLF I didn’t see him on the bench but I agree with you he’s forsure frustrated with where he’s playing but I’m sure the rest of the team is too other than Matthews knies Tavares and nylander there’s been a rotating cast up there… problem with Robertson is when he gets his shot he never takes it I’ll admit his game has become more rounded but a lot of his career has been scoring those 6-7 to 2 goals I still think the leafs are gonna move him so I just hope that he keeps scoring to prop up his value.

01 Dec 2025 12:24:26
Goat. Yea, I mentioned that last year as well about Robertson that he does score a fair amount of his goals that aren't meaningful in a game. In fairness, he does have 6 game winners of the ones he has scored.
I am glad he cares, but I think most Leafs were thrilled to have a lopsided win where the pressure of a won game wasn't intense until the final buzzer. Guys were smiling and laughing a little in the 3rd. Haven't seen much of that. When you add Robertson looking like he is sulking with his frustrations of the past, even asking for a trade, he doesn't seem like a character kind of guy. His attitude screams me first, not team first. No one wants or needs a guy in the locker room sulking about his role, especially when they are trying to find their game as a team and dig themselves out of the hole they are in.

01 Dec 2025 15:15:42
100% agree on Robertson's me first attitude. As I said before, my friends nephew played with Robertson on the Marlies and he mentioned Robertson's entitled attitude many times and this wasn't just the nephews opinion (it was a common one among his teammates) .

I like the fact that Robertson has confidence, but I think this borders more on the side of arrogance and entitlement. This is why my prop I made included trading Robertson now, while he has a bit more sparkle. He'll never be one of Berube's favorite or goto guys, so get what you can now IMO.

01 Dec 2025 20:07:31
Tags. I know I had brought into question Robertson's attitude and entitlement in the past and forgot that you had mentioned what you heard. Thanks again for that.

Another Dubas draft pick where he looked past attitude and only talent.

Do you know we had 12 draft picks in 2020 and not one has played an NHL game. Dubas and the great Wes Clark's record isn't stellar by any means.

01 Dec 2025 21:04:01
Guys, how is he not frustrated? Being human and seeing Domi and Maccelli getting more ice than him when they are in. Robertson is not being used like he should be. Why haven’t we seen this guy in 3 on 3 (as well as McMann), they continue to keep recycling out Nylander and Matthews. If there is one part I don’t like to Berube it’s how these guys get distributed, whether it’s lines or ice time or even how or where a player is used. Don’t get me wrong I agree with how Berube wants his team to play but if I had a say, McMann would have much more of an impact on this team. Playing much more of a roll on PP and PK. Same with giving Robbie more special teams time. Stop giving PP time to Domi and definitely not Maccelli if they don’t deserve it. Anyways rant done.

02 Dec 2025 00:58:45
Ckarky. Why should he have been frustrated? He had 1 point in likely games before the demotion. Maccelli, Domi and Jarnkrok have all been sent to the press box. Maccelli has remained there. Robertson was sent a message that he has to be better to be in the top 6, but they didn't scratch him. How does he respond. He sulks. Did anyone think McMann has sulked since being demoted to the 3rd line? Nope. And that happened before Robertson got demoted down the lineup.
You were talking his praise and saying you were right when he started hot in the top 6. I gave him credit. He had 1 goal and no assists in 7 games prior to last game. I would say he was given a pretty long leash because no one else seems to get that kind of leash this year. I didn't like when Marner acted like a suck and I don't like it when Robertson does either. Maybe he got demoted because he was sulking about reduced ice or because he thinks he deserves top opportunity.
If he was so great, you would think Tre would have got an offer he would have accepted by now. His name has been out there forever and partly by his own request.

28 Nov 2025 12:36:04
the media always cuts up marner cause he mentioned himself as high hockey iQ..front the topic 'me first'... well i believe surely that he has that, hes a top player in this league and was the best player leafs ever had...but he got tired of it...t.o is not for every player but it was a huge mistake, i think matthews played with marner too long.. that is whats screwed matthews playing up..


Matthews goes to vegas for eichel..

28 Nov 2025 21:22:33
He isn't a top player in the league though. Look at him in Vegas on a much better team. Probably finishes with 85-90pts as a 12m winger.

26 Nov 2025 03:40:47
Wow im wondering now if people believe me when i said, berube needs to go, treliving,joshua, i said right from when treluving was hired and berube, that they would screw this team up...ill stress sgain berube and treliving are pylon pluggers...tree we already know that he was a horrible gm and berube coaches like its 1981..the team was a high flying scoring team..shanahan did this and u cant blame him,he knew this would happen, fans called to end the shanaplan, saud that it failed, he said fawk u...ill cripple this orgsnization..keefe, dubas, and shanny was the best thing this oganization ever had, making playoffs every season and fans wined, they didnt get out of first rd, only second round once, they all dhould get fired...and do they did for worst gm in history well jfj its close, and berube in the 5 worst i guess...carlo, joshua,domi,benoit,id put on waivers and bring up the kids. Cause they do not have value, im really wondering if u could even get a second rd pick total for all...tanev is good but was a horrible signing not cause of talent but cause hes a dinosaur(brontasaurus not a trex) anymore...so def 4 got to go, along with berube and tree and coaching staff...once u replace them, leafs will rexaming....we know we need a top 6 and top pairing d, but how to get it...byram,or hughes, not with out cowan or knies and woll...i mentioned yezterday, carlo, domi, valis for byram but need to add a pick...or add quillian....hughes for knies plus i read that...we have no choice to take one step back....but people we cant trade matthews without getting a #1 center back...so if your posting matthews trade be reasonable..rlf

26 Nov 2025 08:12:34
And Shanny/ Dubas/ Keefe got this team how far exactly?

Last I recall, game 7 against Florida in the second round is the best we've seen thus far (at least tied for it) . That was without Keefe/ Dubas.

Although I'm beginning to agree they tuned out Berube entirely, I'm not going to blame that on him or Tre.

26 Nov 2025 13:10:20
I will do my best to be reasonable on my trades for a guy who can't seem to get healthy and is now playing like a 30+ goal #1 centre over still being a 50-60 goal #1 centre.

As for the rest. Berube and Tre, 1 season together and got to the 2nd round game 7. Dubas and Keefe. 5 seasons. Once to the 2nd round and out in 5 games. How that is better result than the first example, is mindboggling.

What is the common ground though. The players. They couldn't get it done in the "high flying" offence system and they couldn't get it done in the more grind it out system, although they got farther in that system.

You act like what we are seeing from this team is what we all wanted. NOBODY wanted this. The way they are playing, no one expected or predicted this. If they played like they are capable of, no one would be complaining. No system suits players that are not willing to work hard. No non-physical system where players aren't willing to grind or battle will win a Cup. This is on the players.