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18 Aug 2022 17:39:14
Seeing kadri signing in Calgary makes me wanna spark a debate. did kadri screw over the leafs? He stopped a trade to the flames which was bringing back Brodie instead the leafs ended up getting barrie kerfoot.

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15 Aug 2022 09:17:26
Can anyone tell me what the deal with Larsson is right now? Everyone seems obsessed with the guy. Writers, journalists, tv hosts, people on this site, etc.

Am I missing something? He's never been a game changing defenceman, but he's being portrayed as a top pairing RHD on the same level as Makar.

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16 Aug 2022 10:05:47
I think it has more to do with him being on a bad team than anything which would make him available and Seattle has the cap space to eat money.

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16 Aug 2022 18:17:34
Larsson is solid and the contract reasonable, so there is a lot to like about acquiring him. Why the major hype? I don't know either. He has a full No trade. Seattle likely will ask a big return and they don't have a lot of cap space with only 6 D on the roster as is. So they can't really take on much money.

There are others to target that are more suitable. imo.

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16 Aug 2022 23:12:57
@RLF that's where I'm at as well. Even if he waives, they ask for a monster return that he probably isn't worth.

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12 Aug 2022 10:05:51
Apparently hockeybuzz has reported that the leafs and yotes are talking nylander plus for chychrun.. To me idk if I believe it for one and two just seems like another kadri for barrie type deal unless there are other deals to follow idk seems weird and random to me

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13 Aug 2022 08:10:44
Joke of a site and joke of a writer. That's all it is.

I skimmed the article because a buddy of mine sent it to me. Nylander+prospects+picks for another LHD? Dubas isn't the sharpest guy going, but I can't imagine he makes that deal.

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13 Aug 2022 15:09:32
I think he does play the right side but I agree as much as I think nylander could give more to the leafs moving him for a defencemen would leave to big of a hole on offence.

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11 Aug 2022 23:42:56
Signing off all
Posted a trade on the rumour post
Shocker my last pitch for chychrun😁

Enjoyed this site and all of your comments
Going on hiatus up north for an indefinite period.
Away from the hustle and bustle
Away from the internet et al😁
All is good
Wife and I need the mental break
Wishing you all the best in health and happiness.
Keep posting the chychrun trades for me
Lol
And Be nice to each other!

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12 Aug 2022 01:37:23
Enjoy the north country.
Get your break and re-join us later.
Hope you have a TV and access to Leaf hockey!

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12 Aug 2022 02:24:02
Cheers Mph.

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05 Aug 2022 23:36:26
@RLF, Trenin got $1.7m x 2.

I’d go after him as well.

I like his size, energy and goal scoring.

What will it take?

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06 Aug 2022 04:19:33
Well Patrick Kane got off on his accused sex scandal a few years ago and nobody is bringing that up.

Dubas wake up and make Jake an offer!

We have too many young players that will not make the team or maybe even play for the big squad, so trade them for draft picks or package 3 or 4 to get the players we need to fill 2nd line LW and right side defence.

I am talking about, SDA, Arbanov, Hollowell, Joey Anderson, Robertson, Malgin, And the list goes on.

There are better players out there but Dubas will not pull the trigger.

And what is going on with Kerfoot, Sandin and Holl!

Trade them we need the cap space.

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06 Aug 2022 04:58:42
I like Trenin. Great target. I don't think he costs an arm and a leg either.

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06 Aug 2022 12:21:49
I think at that contract awarded, Trenin isn't going anywhere unless you overpay that is pretty much a no brainer for Poile. The only other way to get him on a fair deal is if Trenin wants out due to having to go to Arbitration, which may be possible.

I think it would be Liljegren and a plus if you want Poile's attention on Trenin. Trenin is a beast that could score 20 in the top 6 imo. Nash is a little weak on the RD. Otherwise, I don't see much the Leafs have that they would want/ need.

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04 Aug 2022 22:09:31
So how does everyone feel about signing for the minimum Jake Virtanen now that he was found not guilty of sexual assault.

Big boy with scoring!

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05 Aug 2022 05:12:42
I'm down to sign him for a year if he wants to come. Didn't realize the trial was over, but if he's proven not guilty, I'd sign him.

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05 Aug 2022 14:49:03
That's a tough one from a public perception. Although the jury found him more believable than her, there will always be talk that he got away with it, despite being found not guilty. Especially with all the current hockey Canada allegations.

I feel sorry for the guy, his NHL career has basically been ruined by this. Assuming the jury was correct in their decision and she is lying, I hope someone gives the guy a chance because being falsely accused shouldn't ruin your life, but it still seems to anyway.

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05 Aug 2022 15:18:24
If the Leafs want to take a cheap 2way deal flyer on a youngish guy who didn't get qualified, I would look at Cotton, Steele or Svechnikov.

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05 Aug 2022 18:51:54
@RLF I think that's why I'm more willing to sign him.

The best we have is that a jury found him not guilty. He had talent and was an up and comer who's life is ruined. I'd take a flyer for sure.

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05 Aug 2022 23:34:33
I always liked Sam Steel and would definitely invest in him.

Still young with plenty of upside. The Ducks didn’t put any trust in him so didn’t get much ice or strong wingers.

Svechnikov I like as well. He’s a big boy!

Don’t know much about your other suggestion.

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09 Aug 2022 16:06:45
So I know, I am beating the same drum, but virtanen is toxic as he'll, his teammates hated him in junior, and based on how he was at parties it seems likely he got away with it. Again this is all based off of the wife's take on him, but she had some of his teammates as billit brothers and they hated him. And he'd always get super groped with the girls at parties.

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02 Aug 2022 16:03:28
Arb hearing dates.

3 targets of mine heading for arbitration that the Leafs should be watching very closely to make an offer on these players if it goes bad or prior to the start of the hearing.

Yakon Trenin Aug 2nd
Lawson Crouse Aug 8th
Keegan Kolesar Aug 10th

I would be thrilled if the Leafs sent Nylander in a deal for Crouse ++ and then used the cap space and other assets to get Trenin(especially) and Kolesar. If they could somehow then manage to get Peeke out of Clb, they would be set (goaltending aside of course).

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02 Aug 2022 21:32:57
Crouse is being overhyped imo. Reminds me of Ritchie. He gets points because someone has to on that dumpster fire of a team.

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02 Aug 2022 23:55:31
@LL. He is better than Ritchie. He can play PP and kill penalties as well. If someone wants to pay big for him no, but he is going to get around $2.5-$3M likely and I am fine with that. Trenin $1.5-$2.25M likely and Kolesar $1M-$1.6M I figure. That is a combined cap hit under what Willy makes and a combined 44 goals, 608 hits, a positive takeaway to giveaway ratio, both Crouse and Trenin PK and all are big men that play with energy and passion.
I take that trade off any day cause that is playoff hockey.

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03 Aug 2022 01:00:24
@RLF I don't dislike Crouse, I just think people are overhyping him.

You see what Ritchie did with the Yotes? One of those situations where I just think someone has to score and it's him. Chychrun to some extent falls into that category for me as well.

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03 Aug 2022 02:38:52
I know what Ritchie did, I posted it on here if you remember. Lol
He also scored with Boston. Could be that the Leafs weren't a fit for Ritchie.
Crouse has only played in Arz, what kind of development were you thinking he would get? New opportunity could be what he needs to be a 20/ 20 guy.

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03 Aug 2022 04:10:25
I do remember and wholeheartedly agreed at the time. I thought the exact same thing.

You and I agree far more often than not, but when it comes to Crouse, we don't.

Why didn't Boston Qualify Ritchie if he was such a monster for them? Because he wasn't amazing.

I can't speak to the future. Crouse could be a 50/ 100 guy on a line with Mathews and Marner, but I don't know. It's all just speculation. I honestly think he's overrated because he and Keller are the only scorers on that team.

Crouse, Chychrun and Keller score. They get the time they need to do so. The second Ritchie was given that opportunity, he did the same.

This reminds me of the people saying "Barrie just didn't fit" I disagreed from the START. He's just a bad defenceman. That's all it is.

Remember Johnson? He looked amazing beside Mathews. Where is he now? He's a joke. Sometimes somebody just looks good in a certain situation. Doesn't mean they are good.

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03 Aug 2022 12:38:30
@LL. We agree on Barrie and Johnsson. I didn't like either and voiced that as well back then.

As for Ritchie, he got an opportunity on the top line in T. O. He couldn't cut it and he kept getting moved down the lineup. He was 3rd line in Arz, but got some PP time, but no PP points. Not sure how he got a better opportunity in Arz that he took advantage of. I didn't say he was a monster at anytime in his career, just that he scored in Boston as well. He also had more than 10 2X with the Ducks. Boston didn't qualify him because that was at least $2M and they didn't want to pay more than that. Dubas did.

As for Crouse, is being a 20/ 20 40pt guy all that hard to believe if he is in the top 6? There is no doubt he is physical and solid defensively. I am not saying he will be a 50/ 50 100pt guy. Like you said, even Johnsson could score with Matthews. Crouse has had 2 25pt seasons with Arz and a 34 pt season. If he was playing with Tavares, he couldn't get 40 pts? Don't see how I am overhyping the guy.

For instance, what about Willy and his 80 pts in Toronto. 40% came from being on the best PP in the League. Are you suggesting he would score more in Arz because he would get a better opportunity on the top line instead of 2nd and 3rd line in T. O? Is he a 100 pt guy in Arz then? Personally, I doubt that he would be and likely ends up back around 60 pts.

But as you said, it is just speculation.

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03 Aug 2022 22:47:42
@RLF I do actually think Willy puts up serious numbers in ARZ. He probably plays 1:30 of every powerplay and he's the go to guy.

He'll be seeing 20+ minutes a night with everyone looking to give him the puck.

I think Crouse probably is 20/ 20 in the top 6, but I think virtually anyone is. As much as I like Bunting, how much of Bunting is Bunting and how much is Mathews and Marner?

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04 Aug 2022 03:07:43
Willy doesn't have the drive to get 100 pts imo.

If you agree Crouse can be a 20/ 20 guy in the top 6, then why did this discussion start? lol.

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04 Aug 2022 04:16:32
Lol. It was less directed towards you, more a general statement.

Chychrun and Crouse are being hyped the same way Barrie was at one point. I just don't see what everyone else does. He's a more physical Kerfoot to me. That's really all I see him as.

If I put my cat on skates and gave him 20 minutes a night with Mathews and Marner, he gets 20/ 20. They can bank some pucks off him. Maybe a few deflections on the PP from Rielly.

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04 Aug 2022 12:59:25
The first wrister Matthews takes that banks in off your cat is the last point your cat gets. I will say sorry for your loss now:)

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04 Aug 2022 13:25:28
Was that cat Emile Francis or Felix Potvin?

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31 Jul 2022 19:45:50
So this one I'm kinda close to. As long time vets of this site might remember my father was deeply in the trenches of the US jr and developmental under 17 and 18 programs while he worked for a CHL franchise for a mere 20 years this my upbringing is closely tied to all of it.

This player I am going to target actually starts well before he was even born. My father was raised in St.Catherine's. He loved both lacrosse and hockey but was much better at lacrosse thus made a career of while also working on another career on the side. Once his lacrosse days finished through connections made through both sports he started and finished his career helping find talent for a CHL franchise. While playing both sports in his hometown he was closely tied to this now father of the player I will target since grade school. His buddy chose to go all in the hockey route by age 11 and never looked back. A standout and memorial cup winner in the CHL to a very high draft pick with comparisons(don't know why media put pressure on these under 18 year old kids) to Wayne Gretzky. He would of been part of the first true world jr gold ever won by canada(before this the eligible Canadian born players from the memorial cup winning team took on the rest of the world not the best from Canada) but he was hurt. From there he played 10 years and made a forever home on the city that drafted him. He was sadly traded when financial woes started to hinder his team but got a Stanley cup out of it. He played for 3 other teams in nhl after winning cup and even went overseas through Tony tanti hard convincing when he failed to make his PTO tryout. He played most of year overseas on a line with niklas Ehlers father. then through a old close friend and former teammate and even former coach coach Ron Wilson he got contracted to his final nhl team at tail end of season. He ended up with 15 goals shy of 500 and over 1000 points due to this final stint in nhl after he thought his career was done.

This is where the player I'm targeting started his life. This players mother was pregnant and couldn't handle europes health care so returned home without her husband. The husband gets new life with new nhl and thus returned to North American soil but still away from wife. In between game 1 and 2 of Stanley cup finals that year ownership allowed him to use team jet to witness the birth of his second child and son. Then he flew back only to lose in finals.

They named that child Keiffer with 2 fs as his father Brian heard the name while in Germany and wanted that name boy or girl.

Keiffer was born in Minnesota to hockey father Brian Bellows. Full circle happened when my dad got to scout him along with many others that he has talked about before here with the US program in minny and Michigan.
Keiffer was to dawg in Minnesota high school setting records in sane school andres lee attended in Edin Falls. He played US hockey jr equvalent to CHL in Michigan for Sioux Falls where he set age 16 records for the league but chose to leave as he couldn't handle being around anything Courtnall due to Geoff being a sick demented man along with stevens, Sissyrelli and sheehy. Due to Russ son being on that team Keiffer left after a few disputes with this kid and left after 1 year and joined US program with his best friend Joey Anderson and decline western Michigan due to courtnall accepting to go there. Heck this problem goes back to Brian in Tampa playing year 2 and Dino signing that summer and Brian demanding trade as him and Brian Bradley couldn't stand Terry Crisp and locker room tension between bellows and sissy as bellows from what I'm told couldn't stand the drug use and is a huge say no to drugs advocate but on top of the 1990 allegations has forgiven but never wanted to be tied to those 4 so he wanted out of Tampa.
This lingered into next generation crap but joining US program Keiffer met the misery from Missouri 4 and the Greenway brothers, Fox and many others as Anderson was the US meet and greeter as he formed a group of 10 that to this day are real close.
Keiffer had many offers to many schools but formed a great connection with Clayton Keller so followed him to Boston University. He had a disappointing season so once again went one and done and decided to join Portland lead jr phenom Cody glass for a year so he could develop better since Keller karlsson and mcivoy all were leaving program.

Now 3 years into nhl it's time for Keiffer to leave the island and if Dubas can convince bellows to leave a very heavy Minnesota state represented team in the islanders then make it happen

Keiffer bellows for Kerfoot plus

Side note when Brian was dealt from
Minny to Montreal even though he is Canadian said he wanted to stay and play in the states only and declined every team except Montreal due to its rich history and yes Keiffer played in WHL but for an American team so he may have the same stand as his father did so get Joey to convince him to come and sign.

Again very long but had this player has been on my personal radar for long time and since Brian is near and dear to my family. also had to advocate that in the 90s crap got buried not just 2003 or 2018. Shame on nhl and hockey Canada.

Hope you made it this far

Cheers

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01 Aug 2022 00:23:21
Good read JDB.

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02 Aug 2022 15:50:53
Good background. I always enjoy reading the backgrounds you offer and those of course that your Dad offered. I lost my Dad 6 years ago, the hole never gets filled, but the stories etc I hope I have forever.

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