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12 Apr 2021 18:14:13
Just going to put this out there

Foligno and M.Staal are 17 years of BFF

Staal will be a Leaf

To tor
Staal

To det
Duszak 5th 2021
(50% Staal retain)

3rd party team
Rosen 5th 2022
(25% Staal retain)

Possible Bobby Ryan gets thrown in for barabanov or something

But Staal is my prediction

Craigger12

1.) 12 Apr 2021 19:06:36
I was really thinking this too makes a lot of sense, but ben Hutton is there guy.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 19:23:02
Would’ve much preferred Staal then Hutton.


3.) 12 Apr 2021 20:33:04
So close lol

Even after all the retention Hutton is cheaper

Barabanov deal made to put Hutton (same cap hit) on team.
Plus Dubas doing barabanov a solid as after all said and done barabanov is like 14th on forward depth chart so noe gets shot to play full time in San Jose before contract is up.


4.) 13 Apr 2021 02:44:23
Its all done now till the off-season.


 

 

12 Apr 2021 10:07:48
Here's breakdown of deal

To tor
Foligno 1.375
Noesen .925(when in nhl roster only)

To Columbus
Leafs 2021 1st
Leafs 2022 4th
2.75(50%) retain foligno

To San Jose
Leafs 2021 4th
1.375(25%) retain foligno

I was hoping foligno was a 2nd 3rd and 5th but ended up a 1st and 2 4ths instead so pretty close prediction

Then
To tor
Rittich 1.375

To calg
Leafs 2022 3rd
1.375(50%) retain rittich

So leafs are left with
2021 2nd 5th 6th
2022 1st 2nd 5th 6th

But 1 heck if a lineup lol

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11 Apr 2021 16:48:51
To Columbus
Leafs 2nd rd 2021
Leafs 3rd rd. 2022
Leafs 5th rd. 2022
Retain 2.75(50%)

To Tor
Foligno 1.375(25%)
Minor league forward from 3rd party team

To 3rd party team
Leafs 4th rd 2021
Retain 1.375(25%)

So 2nd is for acquiring player
3rd and 5th is for 2.75 retaining
4th is for 1.375 retaining

On retaining
1st= Over 4 million
2nd=3-3.5 million
3rd=2-2.5 million
4th=1-1.5
5th= 750K-999K
6th=351K-749K
7th=Under 350K

So anything over the max amount but lower than next groups minimum you must add pick worth the differance

2.75= 3rd valued @ 2 million minimum
Remaining is covered by 5th minimum

Again just a estimation on past values

Think this kind of deal magic is how Dubas may go about if kerfoot can't be dealt to relieve cap

Craigger12

1.) 12 Apr 2021 13:48:02
Oh so close

1st and 2 4ths

Instead of
2nd 3rd 5th

Lol.


 

 

11 Apr 2021 16:25:48
So the savard trade set a new standard for a trade

Columbus retained 50% of traded player and grabbed a 1st and 3rd
1st for his services
3rd for 2.125 retaining

Then as many of us thought that's all that can ever happen as 50/50 is now done

However since a contract can be retained up to 2 times max and as long as 1 team takes 50% on 1st retain the remaining 50% can now be retained. Detroit jumped in and grabbed 25% for a 4th and Lashoff(as retain contracts for picks can't just be traded there needs to be an actual human going somewhere in a transaction on retained deals much like leafs with that Vegas deal last year)So the team getting the player contract doesn't need to cover 50% of it as long as 1 of the 3 teams already has 50% the other 2 can split the 50% remaining regardless which team has the actual player to go with this contract

So Say Hall
Buffalo trades him and retains 50%(4 million)
1st for retain
2nd on player

Team getting Hall to play for them then finds a trading partner to retain 25% of the 50% for 2 million and Hall can be that cheap.
3rd for retain but gets minor player back in return from team retaining

Buffalo gets
1st and 2nd (4 million retained)
For
Hall (50%)

Halls new team gets
Hall @ 2 million
Minor player
For
1st 2nd and 3rd

3rd party team gets
3rd
For
2 million retained
Minor player

Of course this is just an estimation based on past deals

Craigger12

1.) 11 Apr 2021 18:03:48
That’s messed up.

Does the team trading the player have to be the team
that retains 50%?


2.) 11 Apr 2021 19:13:45
So as per Savard deal

Savard and only 50% (2.125) of his cap/ salary went on a road trip to Tampa.


Before getting to Tampa, Savard and his 50% (2.125) cap/ salary ran into Detroit who are in Carolina right now.

50% (1.0625) of that 50% (2.125) cap/ salary stayed with Detroit. Savard now with his 25% (1.0625) cap/ salary remaining is then joined by Lashoff and continued trip to Tampa.

Savard and his 1.0625 cap/ salary and lashoff join Tampa

Conversely, Tampa sends a future a 1st 3rd and 4th round picks on a digital trip to Columbus. Along the way tampas future picks make a pit stop on Detroit’s network. Tampas future 4th rounder stays on Detroit’s network

Tampa’s future 1st and 3rd continue their digital journey until they meet their network destination in Columbus

In the end
Columbus gets
Tampas 1st and 3rd
While retaining 2.125 of savard remaining cap/ salary
For
Savard and 50% of his remaining contract

Detroit gets
Tampas 4th
While retaining 1.0625 of savard remaining cap/ salary
For
Lashoff

Tampa gets
Savard and only 1.0625 of savard remaining contract
Lashoff
For
1st 3rd 4th rounders

What a road/ digital trip adventure

So as I understand now a team can trade for a player and have up to 50% of his contract retained

A third party can now jump in and trade for up to 50% of that remaining 50% of contract

So as long as 1 of the 3 teams takes on 50% of the contract the other 2 teams can split the remaining 50% in any ratio they want.

Toronto did this last year by taking 44% of lehner remaining contract after Chicago retained 50%

Chicago 50%
Toronto 22% (44% of remaining 50%)
Vegas 28%

So crazy.


 

 

10 Apr 2021 19:35:48
If a team has the money or good cap manipulation then players are being had for the cheap

3rd for Montour

Dubas has the latter so bring in a big one Dubas the time is now

Craigger12

1.) 10 Apr 2021 20:09:01
Sounds like Savard traded to TB for a 1st.


2.) 10 Apr 2021 20:46:40
Montour isn’t exactly a big fish. A third for a guy that failed out of Buffalo doesn’t really excite. It seems like Buffalo got a pretty good deal actually.

Dubas needs to go big or go home.

Does he have the balls?

My thoughts is he should. Desperate GM’s do desperate things. Whether he makes the big move or not, if this team fails in the playoffs again, I doubt Dubas comes back.

At least by making a big move he can say he tried.

Doing nothing, again, and failing flat on their faces, again, would be the worst possible thing to have happen. Again.


3.) 10 Apr 2021 21:19:10
You called it first Craiggers lol. Montour went for a third.


4.) 10 Apr 2021 21:30:55
Yeah lots of retention as well on savard deal by Columbus and Detroit thus the higher picks. No retention it’s a lower pick. that's the market

Let the teams in the same division spend assets to improve because in the end only 1 of them get out of their division

lol.


 

 

 

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25 Apr 2021 20:11:42
Seems the leafs play to their completion

If they wanna make a statement they do and with ease I might add

If a team wants to make a statement on the leafs and it's a meaningless game for the leafs then the other team dies and with ease I might add

It's a bad way to play the season out but it is what it is

Craigger12

1.) 26 Apr 2021 10:04:59
Competition not completion
does not dies

Wow fat finger syndrome.


2.) 26 Apr 2021 15:35:30
Looks to me like the Leafs played above their competition for the most part of this year.

All we are waiting for now is to see who our first victim should be the first round of the playoffs.

And I really hope “victim” is the right word to describe our competition.


 

 

24 Apr 2021 23:17:55
Here's a calculation on how to figure out a fair more realistic expectation based on past success not possible success like the media likes to just throw out to all with no penalty if they are way off

Players most successful playoff run
0= no playoffs ever
1= Never been in round 2
2= never been in conf finals
3= never been in Stanley cup
4= never raised cup
5= win cup

Leafs end up with a 43 for 18 skaters 2 goalies

Winnipeg 42
Edmonton 31
Montreal 50(gave Allen a 2 not a 5 as he was st.Louis goalie in 16-17 not the cup winning goalie that was binnington)

Teams like Tampa st.Louis Washington Pittsburgh are in the 85-95 range

Vegas and Bruins would be close to 75ish
Nashville 60ish
Colorado nyislanders 55ish
Minny Carolina 40ish
Florida 35

So they are 2nd in conference by a hair and 11th overall of all current playoff teams so outside of media driven expectations if you do the math the expectations shouldn't be huge until they prove otherwise.

Expectations= past success is the proper calculation

Media uses
Expectations = made up value on what media clowns think players could achieve even without past success

How can anyone ever judge someone on a future success without past success it just makes no sense.

In the workforce you see how and individual works and through their work and accomplishment in the field they gain an expectation value

Never can you expect more from someone if they haven't done it before,

If I run a 410 mile I'm not expected to run a 4 minute mile next because now my standard is 410 so why expect more.

Craigger12

1.) 25 Apr 2021 17:14:52
Have you tested this theory on previous cup winners?


2.) 25 Apr 2021 20:05:04
Any back to back winning teams win this theory
Teams that win 2-3 cups in a 5 year span win this theory

Upsets happen and thus those teams that upset past successful teams get a higher number the next season due to setting their new standard

Teams that add players who’ve won a cup add to their standard

Media doesn’t use this. They use individual season success to predict outcomes.

Every team fluctuates yearly due to players lost and gained but in the end this theory is how I set expectations on teams

You could even have 6= 2 cups and a 7= 3 or more cups but I wanted to simplify based on best individual cup run.


3.) 26 Apr 2021 00:34:17
Sorry Craigger. I am not quite understanding your whole formula for expectations. Wouldn't many teams who haven't won the cup for ever or for a while be a surprise then. I mean how about just recently Chicago's (1st of 3) or LA's (1st of 2)or Crosby's first Cup (09)? St Louis were perennial 1st round losers before getting their Cup. Sure, after they won one, they become favourites or at least contender's for another.


4.) 26 Apr 2021 10:14:25
It’s not something that needs to be understood as it’s something I use to predict outcomes and set expectations

I’m not stating it’s what anyone used, simply just myself

If you want to try it out great, if not great

Expectations change

This formula only creates the odds. That doesn’t mean it’s 100% what’s going to happen. Just setting the expectations / predicting outcomes before the games play much like everyone else does and just showing my formula to do so.


5.) 26 Apr 2021 14:20:00
@Craigger. My post was not meant as a slight to the idea. I understand it is your own. Maybe I wasn't clear in my post. My bad.

I understand the formula and numbers you get. But I was asking how is it any different than how many (even media) predict a teams success without this formula? Per your formula, Chi, Pit, LA should never have even come close to the cup when they won it the first time. After the first time, they would become favourites as your formula also suggests, but isn't that also what the media/ others said? Teams like Tampa and Washington were by many considered over-due for a Cup as your formula also would have suggested.

I love new ideas and ways of thinking. Just asking if you have tested it against what is predicted through Media and been way different and more often more correct than they are.


6.) 26 Apr 2021 15:32:18
That’s the coolest formula for expectations I’ve ever seen.


 

 

13 Apr 2021 10:10:00
Starting lineup
Hyman Matthews marner
Galchenyuk Tavares mikheyev
Foligno Kerfoot nylander
Thornton spezza simmonds

When down
Tavares Matthews marner
Hyman foligno nylander
Galchenyuk spezza simmonds
Thornton kerfoot Mikheyev

When up
Hyman foligno Mikheyev
Kerfoot Matthews marner
Galchenyuk Tavares simmonds
Thornton spezza nylander

Engvall Robertson

The D
Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott bogosian

Hutton liljegren

Craigger12

1.) 13 Apr 2021 21:45:45
I would greatly prefer Engvall to Kerfoot but I see why you did that.


 

 

10 Apr 2021 19:26:39
Haha

Andersen not Nash on LTIR

More money bigger trade coming soon

Then if needed another trade Monday

Dubas is moving through that rat maze quite slickly

Always a few turns ahead of us Rumour starters

Craigger12

1.) 10 Apr 2021 20:22:45
Nash will be LTIR as well. They are probably just waiting on the paperwork to clear.

If Dubas dips into Andersen’s LTIR, then Andersen is done for the rest of the regular season. Probably the playoffs too. There is a very good chance that Andersen will never play another game for the Toronto Maple Leafs again.

Even if he gets healthy enough to play a few playoff games, the team is not going to drop whatever tandem is working at the time to incorporate him back into the rotation. Not if Campbell and whoever his partner is are winning.

At least I can take comfort in knowing there is a very good chance that we will not be seeing Andersen letting in any early or soft goals at key moments of important games again this year in the playoffs.


2.) 10 Apr 2021 21:29:05
I can see Freddy replacing Hutch as the backup for the playoffs or if Soup gets hurt again. I wouldn't count out playoffs but regular season is looking done for him as of right now.


3.) 10 Apr 2021 21:37:44
You’re right
Just put him on LTIR

With the roster as is leafs need to use all of Nash LTIR for rest of season to cover the team from going over cap to close out year.

This means Andersen L isn’t being used yet. Leafs have his 5M plus 482K left to technically get a player of that if they want.

Only time will tell.


 

 

01 Apr 2021 09:48:26
Everyone keeps writing how Dubas lost that Barrie kerfoot for kadri deal.

If Barrie simply played like he does now or close to it leafs win deal. Kerfoot wasn't brought in to produce at kadri level. He was brought in to save leafs a million bucks for the 3C position while gaining an offensive right shot dman.

Personally the deal was fine. It was Barrie who sucked in this deal not Dubas. The guy is 2nd in d points this year on virtually the same type of offensive team if not a bit less.

Stop stating Dubas lost the trade when in fact the trade if compared to this years stats was made the leafs win by a country mile

It's Barrie not Dubas that sucked in this trade

Craigger12

1.) 01 Apr 2021 10:01:45
Agree Completely Craigger12. Everyone likes to bash the GM when players don't live up to their contract, but this deal had to happen given the need for a RD and the bonehead plays that Kadri had pulled in 2 playoffs prior.


2.) 01 Apr 2021 12:48:59
C'mon guys. You are acting like people didn't like the deal because Barrie didn't end up working out. Many of us didn't like the deal before Barrie had even played a game for the Leafs. It had nothing to do with his results with the Leafs. We didn't like it because we needed a Brodie or Nurse type of partner for Rielly, not another offensive defenceman that struggles defensively. Barrie was just a poor choice by Dubas.

Kadri I was tough on for his playoff stupidity. That said, Dubas failed to realize the necessity for grit and vet leadership. He has now admitted that. Kadri was the only Leaf with any push back. We had an asset in Kadri that him+ could have likely got us the kind of defenceman we needed and instead Dubas used him to get something we didn't need as he still felt skill over all else will win. He was wrong. The fact that Barrie has put up points in Edmonton is moot, as it has nothing to do with why many didn't like the deal from day 1.

I would argue that those who didn't like it from day 1 were right and Dubas was wrong based on his insistence of how to build a team at the time and it hasn't worked. Therefore, it was bad trade as he traded a very good asset without addressing a need on the team. Instead, he used that asset to get something we already had enough of. Kerfoot was a cheaper 3C for sure, but he wasn't the main piece. Part of a GM's job is also to project how players will fit into your team before making the deal. If the player doesn't fit, whose fault is that, the players or the GM who traded for him?


3.) 01 Apr 2021 13:17:04
I completely disagree Craiggers. Barrie has not been a superstar in EDM either. He's near top of the league in secondary assists and playing nearly all of his time with Mcjesus.

Barrie is extremely sheltered in his current situation. Barrie is a bottom pairing defenceman who fits very well on some PP.

Barrie wasn't even the biggest part of the deal though Kerfoot was. As much as I dislike Barrie Kerfoot was supposed to be a solid 3C who plays extremely well defencively and can put up a 20/ 50 season. I see absolutely no signs of any of that out of Kerfoot right now.


4.) 01 Apr 2021 13:33:32
@RLF - I liked Kadri and what he brought to the team and he was on a team friendly contract, no doubt about that. I wasn't a big fan of the deal either, but the Rd had to be addressed and its not always easy to find what you need without giving up something - it didn't help that Kadri had been suspended 2 years in a row during the playoffs.
If Barrie had of played last season like this season I don't think we would even be discussing this and you have to remember Babcock was the coach when Barrie arrived, at least Dubas rectified that.
As far as veteran leadership and grit are concerned Dubas has been trying with all the additions this year. Dubas, and his team, have evolved in their thinking and I see nothing wrong with that.


5.) 01 Apr 2021 13:45:51
@LL. Man we see the trade different. lol
To me, Barrie was the main piece and most thought Kerfoot was a throw in until the "experts" started going on about how he is not a throw in and that the Leafs really wanted him and how fans will like his gritty two way play.


6.) 01 Apr 2021 15:06:37
I am going to start by saying I hated that trade.

But Barrie hasn't been sheltered this year, he has been playing shutdown minutes with nurse, he's been going head to head with the best in the north, has he been doing it well? Not really Smith is just playing like it's 2010. But Barrie hasn't been sheltered, hitting mcdavid with breakaway passes and being the #1 pp guy has helped. I also think if he was running the leaf pp this year it would be doing better than Reilly running it. Barrie takes those point shots from anywhere and this year we have Simmonds screening, I think a few of those would go for sure.


7.) 01 Apr 2021 15:12:18
I read your points and they are all valid and not wrong to think how you do and I’m kinda in the middle somewhere here. I woke up saw Barrie was 2nd in D points so thought I’d revisit this overall trade .

So basically it’s kerfoot and Barrie (50%) 6.25 in for kadri and hainsey 7.5 out. Kerfoot 1 million 3C saving and Barrie .25 1RD savings . Judging by 18-19 stats of all 4 players
2018-19 15-27 14-45 vs 16-28 5-18= 29-72 for 21-46

So Dubas assumed he was getting more points and by a lot out of the RHD position with very minimal points list from 3C position which by the numbers he was right

Then stats of 4 guys on new teams following year and yes
2019-20 9-19 5-34 vs 19-17 1-11= 14-54 for 20-28

I mean he lost 6 goals total while collecting 26 extra helpers for a +20 in the points/ offence created column vs what other players on other teams

Now kerfoot and Barrie on leafs 2019-20 14-54 vs
Kadri and his set on leafs 2018-19 21-46

It’s a 7g loss to a 8 assist gain meaning leafs gained 1pt in generated offence for 1.25 million cheaper

Either way you look at it leafs still did alright on deal overall

Just sucks kadri is a bonehead in playoffs.


8.) 01 Apr 2021 17:47:58
@Matthews. I had said we needed to address the RD situation, but he chose the wrong type of D. By your own admission, Dubas has only started to add leadership and grit this season.

I am just dealing with the facts of the deal at the time. Not the if's and's and but's side of it. Barrie is not what we needed at the time. Neither was Kerfoot. I am glad that Dubas has evolved and has started putting an emphasis on vet leadership and grit. But all of his evolution happened after that deal was made.

It is possible the disaster that the Kadri trade worked out to be, as Naz had very good success in Colorado, is part of what has made Dubas realize that his vision was flawed. The fact that he is trying to correct it this year, would suggest he even realized the deal was bad. Why didn't he try and re-sign Barrie if the deal was still a good one? I think letting Barrie walk is a good indication that Dubas has realized that Barrie is not the type of D we needed. He spent more to get Brodie who has been a good fit and more what we needed. Now and then.

Let's remember that Naz had very good success under Babcock and also in Colorado, so blaming Babcock for the lack of success of Barrie and Kerfoot doesn't really seem fair. Kerfoot is on the 4th line with Keefe. Another coach and nothing has really changed for Kerfoot. Barrie was let walk for free. Nothing to do with Babcock.


9.) 01 Apr 2021 18:06:57
There is another element to that deal we have not discussed as I think some have forgotten that Kadri nixed a trade to Calgary that was supposed to bring Brodie to Toronto and because of that he was dealt to Colorado instead. Brodie and Barrie are not much alike. So, if Dubas wanted Brodie and had a deal in place, why did he settle for Barrie so quickly when it was nixed? Cap. Dubas got himself in trouble against the cap and needed to move Naz because of it so he took a questionable deal so he could keep the big 4 intact.
Hindsight is 20/ 20. If he had of moved Nylander instead, it makes you wonder what he could have brought back in a deal using Willy and his $7M of cap.


10.) 01 Apr 2021 23:56:04
Turned into a good meaningful great use of good value points discussion

Well done everyone this is how good discussions are meant to be with good maturity and 2 great sides to a great debate

This is why I love this site.


11.) 02 Apr 2021 00:29:59
I’m late to the party on this one. But here’s my take:

More fans would have been willing to take the downgrade from Kadri to Kerfoot, and make no mistake about it, it was a downgrade, if Barrie had worked out better. He didn’t.

Not only that, but turns out Kerfoot isn’t even a capable centre. So we traded away the league’s best 3C on a great contract, for a guy that can’t play centre and a rental in Barrie.

Barrie is doing well playing in Edmonton with the, by far, best two forwards in the world. This is not meant as a slight to Matthews or Marner or anyone else. It’s a fact. Oh yeah. And Nurse is his primary partner. The difference between McDavid-Draisaitl vs Matthews-Marner is the difference between Lemieux-Jagr vs Sundin-Mogilny.


12.) 02 Apr 2021 13:42:22
It has been a good debate.
The most telling part to me is the fact that Dubas tried for Brodie, Kadri nixed it and he settled for Barrie. Then he let's Barrie walk that off-season and gets Brodie to sign as a UFA.
When the GM goes right back after his original target and let's the other guy walk, that pretty much tells us that even Dubas didn't like Barrie as an option in the end for the Leafs. Brodie was always the guy.
Dubas had to waste a good asset because of cap problems on a trade that has not worked out. Kerfoot is now the most likely to be traded and we won't get a lot back for him. Really hard for me to call the Kadri deal a good one because it really doesn't matter what Barrie does in Edmonton or Kerfoot possibly somewhere else. The value of the trade will be based on what those players did here, which was and is not much.


13.) 04 Apr 2021 09:09:42
That's turned out far better of a debate than I thought it would lol.

If we break this down to it's absolute simplest though.

Kerfoot for basically nothing. Barrie being worthless.

What did Kadri go for?

That seems to be the issue. Brodie is here now but could have been regardless. Say we traded Kadri for Bennett one for one. It still looks like a better team doesn't it?

No matter the hate or love for Dubas that was just a bad trade.


 

 

 

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28 Apr 2021 00:02:05
Leafs don’t deal rentals when they are a playoff team

Hasn’t happened lately and probably won’t happen now

Both those packages are for a player agreeing to sign an extension.

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28 Apr 2021 00:00:35
That ranger deal sure would be fantastic

That hawks deal scares me

What’s worse than 1 I engaged nylander?

TWO.

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27 Apr 2021 23:58:38
When was last time leafs management traded a player with 1 season left before ufa.

Barrie
Ceci
Hainsey
Gardiner
Bozak
JVR
Mcihinney
Komarov
Parenteau

Outside the polak and Winniks of this organization James riemer was the last upcoming ufa dealt and that was at the deadline that year.

They paid Carolina to take marleau in his final contracted year.

So if the past is any indication of the future I’d have to think rielly stays put.

The deal itself is great and if Dubas does decide to deal him hopefully it’s for a package much like this.

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22 Apr 2021 22:59:46
Philly doesn’t need yet another left shooting non defensive dman.

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22 Apr 2021 22:58:51
I’d rather antropovs kid over domis.

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28 Apr 2021 00:12:47
Nash needs to first be healthy enough to skate
Then he needs to be able to skate enough with bare minimum pain
Then he needs to practice to get timing and back in shape
Then he needs to play on the marlies in 1st round of their playoffs if they make it to get game shape
Then if leafs are in round 2 he needs to join team and practice a bit and maybe press box a game to study the system
Then once he is declared nhl ready and if leafs are in round 2 and winning obviously Dubas can’t disrupt the team now but if they are losing series now it’s time for shakeup and Nash enters for whomever in bottom 6 isn’t playing well

That’s my expectations on Nash

And yes he was brought in for the cap with possible incentive if he gets back to playing this the stipulation pick.

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26 Apr 2021 10:14:25
It’s not something that needs to be understood as it’s something I use to predict outcomes and set expectations

I’m not stating it’s what anyone used, simply just myself

If you want to try it out great, if not great

Expectations change

This formula only creates the odds. That doesn’t mean it’s 100% what’s going to happen. Just setting the expectations / predicting outcomes before the games play much like everyone else does and just showing my formula to do so.

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26 Apr 2021 10:04:59
Competition not completion
does not dies

Wow fat finger syndrome.

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25 Apr 2021 20:05:04
Any back to back winning teams win this theory
Teams that win 2-3 cups in a 5 year span win this theory

Upsets happen and thus those teams that upset past successful teams get a higher number the next season due to setting their new standard

Teams that add players who’ve won a cup add to their standard

Media doesn’t use this. They use individual season success to predict outcomes.

Every team fluctuates yearly due to players lost and gained but in the end this theory is how I set expectations on teams

You could even have 6= 2 cups and a 7= 3 or more cups but I wanted to simplify based on best individual cup run.

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24 Apr 2021 20:39:11
Pretty nice out today

A walk is a fabulous idea thanks for the idea LeafsLife

It’s time to go re-energize with some fresh air and all get ready for yet another warm weathered playoff run

May the best hockey players whom can play in the heat win.

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