Leafs talk 2

12 Nov 2025 02:06:27
It's official,

Toronto Maple Leafs change name to,

The "TORONTO MUPPETS"

12 Nov 2025 11:28:37
That's insulting to Muppets.

12 Nov 2025 00:37:14
If they do nothing after tonight I don't think I can stomach watching another game no passion no heart no anything they are a tyke team at best

12 Nov 2025 12:28:20
Agreed.

The Leafs are sitting in 28th position of 32 teams; it’s clear the playoffs are in jeopardy.

And this is NOT the half of it!

1. We have very little trade capital to use to perform better even if we get to the playoffs.
2. Tanking is a silly notion because we have (methinks) only 3 picks this year.
3. Bérubé does not have the support from the players; he’s lost the dressing room.
4. We have an “old” team that has “missed” its opportunity.

I know I’m being negative but that’s how I see ir AND no point in moving to the Oilers. And does a Leaf fan switch to the Habs or Sens? That’s a tough one!

12 Nov 2025 13:10:00
I do think making hockey trades to get younger is doable for the leafs they need to use the ahl more rather than role out the same guys and fail night after night but they sat on their hands with guys like kampf and jarnkrok and now have very little space to bring guys up and can’t seem to dump this contracts.

12 Nov 2025 14:08:27
Can't tank or risk losing top picks in a few drafts in a row. Can't trade because nothing left to trade.

I'd sit Mo in the presss box and fire Berube. As much as I like Berube you have literally no choice. You can't make trades, aren't winning games and they refuse to play for him (to my eyes) .

12 Nov 2025 00:10:41
This might be premature, but this is hard to watch. Stolarz looks horrible, nobody playing defence, offense has 4 shots thus far (23 minutes in), I'm not even sure they make the playoffs at this rate.

12 Nov 2025 02:10:30
We keep saying they will get it back but I’m not so sure anymore I think it’s so bad they need to wipe it clean from top to bottom i turly believe the team only plays for coaches they like because I can’t wrap my head around any of this the blue line is the exact same how can it go from one extreme to the next like this.

12 Nov 2025 12:33:26
I think I posted around the same time as you LL. Difficult to watch for sure. The biggest team playing very small. Why have a team with size if they don't want to use it.
They need a leader. They need a guy that is willing to say "ENOUGH! ". A guy that goes out and hits everything in sight and willing to start a scrap if needed when they aren't playing well. They don't have a skilled guy that will take over the game. Willy is the closest to that. Roy, Joshua both look at the opponent like "what are you mad at me for", instead of fighting back. I thought those two were supposed to be guys that played with heart. Laughton is the closest they have and he has been hurt all season and not a heavy weight by any means. McMann is at least trying.
This team should be a good team. Right now they stink and should be embarrassed. If I was Berube, That is what I would ask them. "Are you tired yet of embarrassing yourself? " I know the modern snowflake players won't like that, but it needs to be said. Stop whining like babies and get out there and don't be denied. Nice if Stolarz could actually stop a puck as well. I'd play Hildeby. He is outplaying Stolarz. It's not even close.

12 Nov 2025 13:17:52
@RLF so true Joshua has become an expensive 4th line winger Roy has been fine but still need more maccelli I don’t really notice and the rotating cast of Lorentz jarnkrok blais is not that great at least blais is running around trying to inflict damage to the other team my biggest gripe is with guys like Benoit where has his physical ability gone he’s not good enough just to be a guy back there he needs the other part too to me him and myers would be sitting and bring up some guys rafi when healthy should get a look guy plays a hard game long story short they need changes and quick and not just cycling the same 3 line combinations use the marlies if you can.

11 Nov 2025 23:57:34
This team has a lack of leadership. Where is the guy starting a scrap to get the guys into it? No one is stepping up to lead.

11 Nov 2025 03:16:33
Toronto should fired Lalonde, Van Ryan and Mark Savard

And bring in Pete Debor and Bruce Boudreau to coach with Berube

Lalonde coached Detroit for two years and had the worst defense in the league

Van Ryan was a defenceman and is coaching the offence

Savard is in charge of the 2.nd worst powerplay in the league

GOOD JOB TRELIVING, GOOD JOB!
DUMB ASS

10 Nov 2025 13:34:57
I keep having people tell me Berube should be fired. If this is true, doesn't that mean it's rebuild time? Babs, Keefe, Berube, they've all had the exact same issues as very different coaches. At what point is it just a personnel issue?

Goaltending needs to be better though, that covered up a lot of warts last year. It makes every team look good when a goalie leads the league in save pct and the other goalie is top 5.

10 Nov 2025 14:37:32
They are playing with sticks gripped tight and slow to read and react.

10 Nov 2025 17:05:13
I do t think you can even blame the goalies when they can’t make a breakout play and get out shot every game by 15-20.

10 Nov 2025 17:45:36
As hard as this is for me to say because he is one of my absolute favourites…. McCabe needs to sit a game. I love his compete level, he wants to win. But he is making multiple mid ice turnovers and teams are scoring in at least one per game. Like go up the f*n boards Jake. Love this guy and what he brings. But it’s like how many goals in the last little while were directly related to his turnover. Either way we are getting out worked all over the ice. We have to have the worst gap control in the entire AHL (no typo) . So easy to pass into our zone, not much pressure getting over the red line to dump it in. Man in man in their own zone is 💩 show. Why our breakout hasn’t changed is a bit crazy to me. We keep trying to fire the puck all the way across to the other side trying to beat 3 people. I don’t get why the fat winger isn’t cutting across to support that puck instead of an all you can eat buffet of turnovers between the blue lines forcing that same stupid pass every time. Very simple, far winger cuts towards puck on the break out. Winger with puck either looks for that direct pass (which shouldn’t be more than 5’) or he chips off the boards so his fellow winger can skate into it. Both plays we would have speed carrying the puck through the neutral zone. This 60’ pass cross ice is either getting intercepted or if he somehow gets it he is standing still and all he can do is dump it in with no pressure. Some of this needs to be put on coaching staff for not making these changes. No wonder we only win when our goalies stand on their head. 4 breakaways in one period needs to be some sort of record.

10 Nov 2025 19:48:21
It's not all on the goalies or the forwards, or the D or the coaches/ GM. This team should be way better than it is playing.
It's time for Matthews to be a leader and call a players only meeting. He should lead the meeting and tell them they got to start playing the way the coach wants. Smart plays and reads. Finish every check. Get the puck to the net. Win puck battles. Play hard and physical. etc etc. He needs to step up as a leader.

10 nov 2025 02:24:27
well it's official, the leafs suck!

if treliving is waiting to get healthy with players he should be fired.

berube has lost the attention of these cry baby sucks because, yes he yells at them, and he should they sink!

fans should not have to put up with this sloppy play, and change the coaching staff because they certainly do not have any good systems, let's not mention the powerplay!

treliving do something or re-sign your position because this team is not working together at all!

you want more for these players than what they are worth, just trade them get picks and move the fu...k on!

this management is to complaint and thinks that they are a good team, wrong!

stop upsetting the fans and wasting their hard earned money with your nonsense!

10 Nov 2025 02:08:48
Send the entire blueline to Russia not one of them looks like an nhl calibre player so embarrassing that they can't figure out a breakout pass

09 Nov 2025 08:08:57
Talking point! Are you guys more worried about the goaltending or the defence?

For me it's the blueline. the problem with the leafs bringing in older guys is that at any moment the wheels could fall off currently I think the leafs have one good pairing which in McCabe and tanev other then that they are pretty sub par..

And I think it all starts with Mo he's been here his whole career and has had one good season they say he's a offensive defender but yet has two seasons with double digit goals a one season with 60+ points he's a 4-5 on a good team the leafs organization has spent too long trying to make him work.

I think it's essential we start building the future blueline

09 Nov 2025 14:29:45
Have to look at goaltending as well. Ever since Stolarz spoke out against his teammates, he gas not been very good. He has been average at best. Yes, some D-men and forwards are making mistakes that are creating chances against, but every team has that happen to them every game. Rarely is a team pretty much mistake free in a game. They need saves. Hard to relax and play when you think every mistake is going to end up in your net. They all need to clean up their games, Stolarz included.

09 Nov 2025 19:47:18
@RLF agreed my point of view is how many big saves does stolarz have to make a game at least 2-3 I also think he’s played like half of his career high in starts already this year alot of expectations all around where the leafs haven’t been up to par but do you agree that they need to look to get younger I see a lot of your post suggest that.

10 Nov 2025 14:36:25
Need two to three big saves for sure at least. Can't just only get the ones that are obvious. Need to add some younger talent to the system at minimum imo. Guys that can already at or are very close to ready. Youth brings enthusiasm and energy, which can be infectious.

09 Nov 2025 02:23:12
Everyone wants to trade robertson and maccelli yet there one of the 4 players who actually are playing..leafs look so disorganized, they lack in so many areas, heart, intensity, motivation, at least there on the same page, .this teams next 7 games..is gonna dictate the rest of the way, i got to see how the team reacts to woll coming back, maybe that changes everything..fingers are crossed..

07 Nov 2025 15:30:14
I understand that Willy hasn't exactly had the best effort at times, but the guy is in Art Ross territory so far this season. What's with him and JT being grouped into why this team is losing? I just don't see it.

07 Nov 2025 17:49:02
"why this team is losing"?
They won 5 of their last 6. Who is still going on about why they are losing?