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05 Jun 2020 20:21:18
To LA:
Kerfoot, Engvall, Liljgren
To Leafs:
Kempe, Walker OR Roy

themostleaf33

1.) 05 Jun 2020 21:46:51
I like it, but I doubt LA does it. It would be sweet if they did. Walker and Roy are both better than Liljegren, while Kempe is pretty close to Kerfoot's level and Engvall doesn't close the gap (imo only of course) .

Apparently Kempe is a real speedster, so he would make a good third line with Johnsson and Kapanen.


2.) 06 Jun 2020 04:52:11
Ya the leafs may need to add a pick or decent prospect but it’s still something they should consider. It takes care of both of their needs as it gets them a proper 3C and at least a decent upgrade to RHD.


 

 

29 May 2020 23:24:13
To Anaheim:
Kerfoot, Liljgren, Engvall, 2nd 2022*
To Leafs:
Rackell, Kesler (LTIR)

*If Clifford does not re-sign with the leafs it becomes a 2021 second round pick (this was part the condition on the pick they traded to L.A)

To NJ
Johnsson, Dermott, Bracco, Malgin
To Leafs:
Severson (NJ retains 50%)

Re-sign Spezza and Gauthier to league minimum
Mikheyev gets 1-2 years at 1.75 mill

Sign a 3C (Thornton, Brassard, Galchenyuk) to a 1-2 year contract @2 mill

Hyman-Mathews-Marner 24.777
Rackell-Tavares-Nylander 21.75181
Mikheyev-3C-Kapanen 6.95
Barbanov-Gauthier-Spezza 2.325
*Brooks 725k

Reilly-Severson 7.083333
Muzzin-Lehtonen 6.55
Sandin-Holl 2.894167
*Marincin 700k

Anderson 5
Campbell 1.65

Kessel 1.2

Total cap:
81.6063103
*This dose not include the LTIR relief from Kessler's contract

themostleaf33

1.) 31 May 2020 02:23:54
I'm not sold.

I'm not even looking at the trades themselves, which are all pretty good. I'm just looking at the end result.

The defense doesn't look any better really. I like Severson, but I don't think he is a 1RHD. He's not even a top 50 defenseman in the league. There are probably like 2 or 3 levels between true 1RHD's and Severson.

And we take a pretty big downgrade at 3C to upgrade our wing. Our wing gets an upgrade with Rakell, but I would rather keep the center strength. I guess it depends on who you sign, but the options you listed here are all significantly worse than Kerfoot, who I think is a pretty good 3C. He's no Kadri, but he is effective for the role.

Wing is already our greatest strength. I wouldn't weaken another position to upgrade an already strong position.


2.) 31 May 2020 03:23:46
Hockey idk if I agree with you about a downgrade at 3C as Kerfoot hasn’t really fit into the leafs system all that well. I really like the Engvall-Kerfoot-Mikheyev line at one point but then Mikheyev got hurt and Engvall and Kerfoot both started struggling. Kerfoot also played 3C just as much as he played LW.

Another reason for that trade is the cap savings, not necessarily in the trade itself, but with the savings the leafs will get at the 3C position. It’s mostly about the cap.

Yes Severson may not be a Pietrangelo or Jones, but the leafs can’t really afford that right now, and honestly Reilly and Barrie actually worked really well imo as a defence pairing even though they are both offensive defenceman. Severson may not have the best defensive stats but he also played for one of the worst defensive teams in the league for his whole career.

Also, again this trade saves money against the cap as a 2 million Top 4 defenceman is very hard to find these days. As much as I would like it, the leafs just can’t afford a top RHD at this time, and they are going to have to settle for someone like Severson regardless. Might as well save as much money as possible while doing it.


3.) 31 May 2020 03:25:28
Also Brassard, Galchenyuk, and Thornton wouldn’t be downgrades on Kerfoot imo, more like cheaper replacements who can play a more steady role.


4.) 31 May 2020 03:25:53
As it stands our wingers are Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Johnson, Mikheyev, Barbanov, Engvall, Hyman, Robertson. Why would you ever want to trade for another one? Can even include Kerfoot in there as he plays LW as well. If anything you trade two wingers this off season because you have so many quality ones. You don't need to bring in any more.


 

 

16 May 2020 21:04:58
Okay so this is all hypothetical but like what if Hall actually somehow signed in Toronto. I'm assuming it would be for 5-7 years at around 8.5 million

Other signings:
Mikheyev 1-2 years 1.75 mill
Gauthier 700k
Spezza 700k
New 3C (EXAMPLE: Brassard, Galchenyuk) 1-2 years 1.5 mill

Trade to NJ:
Kerfoot, Johnsson, Engvall, Dermott, Bracco
To Leafs:
Severson (NJ retains 50%) and whatever else they want to throw in

Hyman-Matthews-Marner 24.95
Hall-Tavares-Nylander 20.2
Mikheyev-3C-Kapanen 6.45
Barbanov-Spezza-Korshkov
*Brooks, Gauthier All 5- 3.975

Reilly-Severson 5.08
Muzzin-Lehtonen 6.55
Sandin-Holl 2.9
*Rosen 700k

Anderson 5
Campbell 1.65

Kessel 1.2

Total cap: 78.655 mill

So it is possible without giving away one of our core pieces, and there is even a little bit of wiggle room in case Lehtonen doesn't work out (or if any of you think the new 3C and/or Hall might cost a bit more)

themostleaf33

1.) 16 May 2020 22:01:36
How is Severson $80,000?


2.) 16 May 2020 22:14:35
I love the idea of this! However, I think Hall would want more than 8.5, probably around 10 mil is what he will get. I love all those signings, but I think we are giving up too much for severson trade. They should throw in a significant piece in that deal. Love the idea of getting Severson, though. I think he would be the best fit for beside Rielly that we could get for a reasonable price.


3.) 17 May 2020 00:17:45
Issue isn't next year really though. It's the year after in my opinion. You can probably trade Kerfoot, Johnson and Kapanen to make room for Petro but then it means losing Hyman, Freddy and Reilly which significantly handicaps the team. I wouldn't actually sign any big name free agent if I was Dubas. He believes in system so trade what you will but signings are largely not worth it right now.


4.) 17 May 2020 00:18:16
Not to mention hall most assuredly wants 7 years if possible and I don't think 8.5 cuts it.


5.) 17 May 2020 00:22:58
Septenber 17th 2015
Toronto traded Verhaege, beck, nilsson, finn and for Grabner
A ridiculous 5 for 1 deal not seen to often. In an attempt to cut roster size down to allowable size leafs gave up at time a decent goalue prospect, 2 minor league dmen and 2 not so bad prospects at that time. In return they got a 30 goal man in last season of a 3 million cap hit. worked out great for Toronto as none of those 5 truely made an impact on any nhl teams. Grabner was very solid as a leaf with his speed and constant breakaways. i enjoyed his short time as a leaf

Fast forward 2020 when teades are allowed once again. Toronto trades 2 established 30-40 point players who on a jersey team both could be top 6 guys if needed in a pinch but realistically would make up 2/ 3rds of the 3rd line that would be pretty solid. Jersey also gets a young upcoming RFA with top 4 potential (may already be there especially in jersey with no severson or ufa vatanen) whom might be a great fit with Subban. Jersey not only gets 3 established NHLers but get breakout Engvall who will be a legit 4th liner for life but its a pretty solid gig for a guy who was just an afterthought early in his career. Then jersey gets Jersey Shores himself Mr. Bracco. Could he actually make Jersey? Who cares not the leafs problem

All this for a RHD who was the 3rd RD option offencively but their best defencive option overall. however i warn you it was jersey. How good is he? Who knows. Due to torontos weak right side D he by default becomes the leafs 1RHD. He may not be flashy but the leafs don't need that. Reilly finally gets a Pittsburgh version of Hainsey but with a right shot. I think this would be a great pair. Reilly doesn't need a stud he proved that with old hainsey. he just needs a defensive partner who he trusts so he can play his 70 point season type of game.

Is the 5 given up a steep price. well yes definetly. However, this deal basically gains 3.4 in cap space this year. after engvalls raise and dermotts new contract around 3 million at the least they gain 7 million in this deal for 2020-21.

I love this deal. Yes its a bit much but severson has more term than grabner had and is what leafs essentially need. got to make it appealing for jersey and this does it.
Maybe add Hall in deal just to get 8 years out of him to get thst price closer to 8.5 per.

On a side note i'd perfer younger galchenyuk over brassard but both can move up and down lineup in any forward position when needed so good choice on either

Overall i'm so on board with this move. Great idea

Yes long explanation but with hall and severson addition this trade is a winner for me. Dubas type moves. Very well done and i truely hope this type of thing happens.

PS. isn't everything hypothetical on this site? LOL.


6.) 17 May 2020 02:12:12
Sorry dude, but your math does not jive. try running that scenario through cap friendly and you will be over the cap by -5,291,


7.) 17 May 2020 02:12:45
sorry. -5,291,866.


8.) 17 May 2020 03:44:37
Oh whoops ya that was a mistake on Severson lol I meant to put 7.08 but it still fits in pretty sure.


9.) 17 May 2020 04:15:55
Also I think the leafs would trade Jake Muzzin before letting Reilly go.


10.) 17 May 2020 04:37:01
Also Loxley I have no idea how to use cap friendly what’s the difference between it and a normal calculator like I literally just used the cap hits of each player and added them up, is there something wrong with that?


11.) 17 May 2020 04:50:31
Muzzin is vastly cheaper option at LHD than Reilly will be. Reilly will probably want at least 10.


12.) 17 May 2020 23:19:47
Themostleaf33.well use your calculator again and you will see your mistake. on the 2nd line you are about 4mil off on that line. that is your biggest mistake in the count. you really should try to figure out cap friendly. it's lots of fun and very accurate.


 

 

29 Apr 2020 06:20:01
Okay so the chances of getting Pietrangelo are very slim, and I think we can all agree to that.

One guy I remember they were interested in is Sami Vatanen. Another just this year is Kevin Shattenkirk. If the leafs are looking to free agency, I think either or these players would be a great partner for Jake Muzzin. They can put up similar offensive stats and obviously will not cost as much as Pietrangelo.

However, if they are looking for someone to play with Reilly, then it's more then likely they will have to make a trade. Some guys I would target are Damon Severson (NJ) or Brett Pesce (CAR) as I feel they would be much better in their own zone and both are young and on long term contracts which Dubas seems to like.

I could see Johnson, Liljgren, Engvall and a 3rd getting you Severson.

I think Pesce will cost a bit more like Kerfoot and Dermott.

Depending on which trade the leafs make out of these two, I would love it if they used their remaining assets to get a new 3C because Kerfoot didn't look very comfortable their and Engvall and Goat are far from ready to step into that role, while Spezza is a little to old.

So basically to sum up, my lineup for next year would look like this:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Tavares-Nylander
Barbanov/Robertson-New C-Kapanen
Brooks/Korshkov-Gauthier-Spezza
*Malgin

Reilly-Pesce/Severson
Muzzin-Vatanen/Shattenkirk
Sandin-Holl
*Rosen

Anderson
Campbell

themostleaf33

1.) 29 Apr 2020 08:57:08
I think free agency might be the best route at the moment it’s probably one of the best years in terms of actual talent out there. Guys that stand out to me are guys like Brodie who the leafs tried to trade kadri for and also I like tanev as well both guys play a two way game and kinda fit into what the leafs are doing biggest think would be moving guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot for picks and cap space and what kind of deals they are handing out.


2.) 29 Apr 2020 09:32:05
Free agency is always the best way to overpay for a player guaranteed. Leafs can't afford to sign any free agents unless we move players first. We have no cap space already for next year. Signing someone outright just isn't a possibility.

Vatanen and Brodie are both good adds. Especially Brodie. But those guys will also both be looking to cash in big on their next contract because it will be their retirement contract. Shatter Kirk is a other Barrie, except not as good offensively. He's a guy I don't think Leafs have much interest in. I hope.


3.) 29 Apr 2020 15:28:30
Brodie I didn’t really mention because he shoots left but now that you mention him I think he can play the right side so you are right in the fact that she would be a great partner for either Reilly or Muzzin.

The reason I suggested Shatenkirk is because I feel like if the leafs want to keep it cheap that he is the best option. I can’t see a team giving him more then 3 mill for 3-4 year, while guys like Vatanen and Brodie may cost up to 5 or even 6 million to sign.


4.) 29 Apr 2020 16:07:59
I think a lot of teams are cap strapped so I don’t see guy who are not legit stars in the league getting big deals even a guy like petro isn’t going to get a deal that everyone thought he was going to get at the beginning of the year only way you will see a big deal come up is if it to a team like Ottawa no contenders have cap space other than Colorado but the avs also have to keep in mind guys like MacKinnon and makar.


5.) 29 Apr 2020 17:48:27
I would rather a trade than a signing. Signing players rarely ends up a good deal. Usually it's just a massive overpay.


6.) 29 Apr 2020 18:31:40
I would swap lili with Kerfoot for severson and keep Dermott hopefully he transitions.


7.) 29 Apr 2020 19:01:17
@leafslife yes I agree that is usually the case but this is an unusual time i mean I’ve never been a guy to pay attention to the cap but I got to believe the league has never had this many teams up against the cap before in which I think players will take less money on short term deals and things like the draft will play big roles in franchises staying competitive year after year.


8.) 29 Apr 2020 19:31:11
It will most assuredly be drafting that keeps teams on top but a guy like Petro wants his retirement fund payout right now. He knows he won't be getting a 7 year deal unless he signs one right now. This is his absolute last chance at a Karlson like windfall and someone will pay him.


9.) 29 Apr 2020 21:27:10
Let's face it. The cap staying flat only effects the teams by about $2.5M-$3.0M. So anyone making a run at Pietrangelo and his approximately $10M salary is not going to be deterred by the cap staying flat. It will be someone who already has the space. Colorado and Arizona come to mind. Leafs aren't going to clear out their entire third line just to sign Pietrangelo. I mean, I get the whole strong link game b. s. and all, but even that would be a little extreme.

Still. If Dubas really drank his own kool-aid he would do it.


10.) 29 Apr 2020 21:44:26
I agree leafsgm. The avs will be the ones to sign pietrangelo
Warmest regards MPH.


11.) 30 Apr 2020 08:49:20
I think the avs will be the last team to have interest in petro like I said they have big contracts coming up plus they got a good young core with byram in the minors.


12.) 30 Apr 2020 12:23:55
Hard to say. Dubas has been heavily criticised for not going all in when he had MNM on their ELC's and abundant cap space. If Sakic felt like he wanted to go take his shot now he would do it and worry about the following years cap hits in the following years off seasons.


13.) 30 Apr 2020 15:50:17
I looked into Avs financial situation. They can easily, and I mean easily, add either Pietrangelo or Hall. They could probably add both.

They have a whopping $25M in cap space next year. Even if cap stays flat, they will have $21.5M in cap space. They have a lot of UFA's and RFA's, but not all are coming back. So if Nieto or Namestnikob don't come back, that's $2M-$4M in cap hit that can be used toward giving someone like Jost a raise. They probably come out just over where they sit currently. Even if they had to gut some of the depth this off season.

The end of next season is a concern as both Landeskog and Makar come up for renewal. But Cole ($4.25) and Bellemare ($2.00) also come off books.

And then in four years is where they run into the problem when they start having guys like MacKinnon, Compher, Donskoi come up all at once. But again, Sakic has it set up so they come off the books at the same time as Erik Johnston, who just so happens to make $6M a year. He won't be back and his cap gets used to re-sign their leader and real captain.

Colorado is in an enviable position. They have a team that is run by one of the best in the game. I loved the Avs-Detroit rivalry of the late 90s/ early 00's. I would like to see these guys both become contenders again. I like the Leafs-Boston rivalry. If we can get past them, we have a chance. May as well take them on early.


 

 

22 Mar 2020 15:34:17
To Ott:
Kerfoot
To Leafs:
Tierney

Kerfoot hasn't really been able to fit into the leafs system all that well, and perhaps it would be better if the leafs trade him for someone who can actually play Centre on the PK.

Tierney will probably leave Ottawa the first chance he gets so with Kerfoot locked up for another 3 years at a reasonable price, Ottawa would likely make this trade.

themostleaf33

1.) 22 Mar 2020 17:49:28
Tierney expires as RFA, so he isn't leaving Ottawa until they let him. Is Tierney any better than Kerfoot? Seems like as lateral a move as they get. You're banking on Dubas wanting a guy that can play defense more than he can play offense. Is that the type of guy Dubas wants?

I like Tierney. He was a good grab for Ottawa in that Karlsson trade. Ottawa did well with him. In indifferent to either Tierney or Kerfoot. I think they are both qualified 3C, though the fact that Kerfoot seems to do better as a winger tells me that there is room for improvement if we shuffle things a little.

I guess the question is, how much more does Tierney bring to 3C than either Engvall or Spezza that it's worth moving Kerfoot for him? Cause otherwise we keep Kerfoot for LW, which is still weak, and can out Spezza or Engvall 3C and we don't lose anything .


2.) 22 Mar 2020 19:34:31
LeafsGM

I know Tierney is going to be an RFA, what I meant was I can’t see him signing for more than 1 or 2 years because of the situation Ottawa is in. Yes, they have parts, but they’re far from Contenders.

Tierney has put up 40 points over the past two seasons, and he was on pace to be above 40 again. It’s not like he has no offencesive output, I just think because Kerfoot has been lacking in his offensive production, that the leafs may look for someone who can put up similar numbers offensively, and better numbers defensively for around the same price. Hyman is playing Centre on the Pk, so that kinda says something.

Engvall is a bit of a risk at 3C. He started off well, but then kinda faded. I think the leafs pulled the trigger a little early on his extension but it’s not a terrible contract. He just has to prove he can compete for a full season.

Spezza is a wild card. Even if he does re-sign, is he going to put up numbers that will land him a spot at 3C? I’m just not sure, and I think he is better suited to the 4th line, at least for next year that is.


3.) 22 Mar 2020 21:04:17
I like Tierney too. His numbers are good on a bad team. That's the sign of quality. I'm indifferent towards Tierney vs Kerfoot. I like them both equally I guess. If Leafs made this deal, I wouldn't have much negative to say about it.

You are definitely right in everything you say about Engvall and Spezza. Engvall did drop pretty hard there after he came out of the gates flying. There are so many question marks there that I have a hard time believing Dubas would trust him at 3C without having a backup plan. Spezza's numbers have been outstanding. I don't doubt he is the best 4th line player in the league. His stats per 60 are among the best in the league. If he comes back for another year, I'd like to see him get a bit more time and responsibility.

I can totally see where you are coming from. The question now is does Ottawa trade pending RFA Tierny for a guy that is better at Wong than center and expires UFA in a few years? They might want something more thrown in.


4.) 23 Mar 2020 14:42:30
That is possible yes, I could see the leafs adding Bracco and a pick depending on the Tierney’s next contract. If he only signs for 1-2 years, then I think straight up might work because Kerfoot would have more term.

However, if Tierney comes to Toronto and signs a long term extension, than Ottawa may want a little more. I think a pick+Bracco+a defencive prospect is the most I would be willing to give up along with Kerfoot.


5.) 23 Mar 2020 22:25:43
What do you think of Loponen MostLeaf? He's looking pretty good in the OHL. I could see him making the Leafs in a couple years. He adapted really well to the NA game. He should be even better next year. And he is still so young, we can develop him for another 3-5 years and he would still only be 22-24 when he makes the NHL. That's the key. Is how you get he is and how good he's doing for his age.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2020 04:52:11
Ya the leafs may need to add a pick or decent prospect but it’s still something they should consider. It takes care of both of their needs as it gets them a proper 3C and at least a decent upgrade to RHD.

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02 Jun 2020 22:13:37
Savard has an off year imo and he his contract is going to expire soon. I would rather trade Kapanen for someone with a little more term and who is younger.

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31 May 2020 14:15:23
Ya but the thing is the leafs would prefer to have Kapanen or Johnsson over White. Both are better players and both have much better contracts even if Ottawa retains.

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31 May 2020 03:33:52
Also your betting a lot on a 26 year old defenceman with very little depth behind him if he doesn’t pan out. Liljgren and Sandin as a pairing is a little, well scary to say the least. Both are still very inexperienced at the NHL level and although they help with the cap, it is just too much of a risk to put those two on a pairing.

Holl and Fox only have 1 year of experience, and they would have the second and third most games played among top 6 defenceman in your lineup.

Overall the blue line is just way too inexperienced to move forward, I don’t see the leafs risking taking a step backward in that category, especially not now.

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31 May 2020 03:25:28
Also Brassard, Galchenyuk, and Thornton wouldn’t be downgrades on Kerfoot imo, more like cheaper replacements who can play a more steady role.

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