Leafs rumours 2

17 Jun 2025 00:42:31
tor: robertson, benoit

Col: lehkonen

so i looked at the playoff stats between marchment and lehkonen. I think arturri look slike a much better target. both teams are in the same cap position, 1.9m in space to fill 6/ 7 roster spots. this deal help both teams, col end up with 2 players at a combined 2.75m cap space, and leafs open an aditional spot on the blue line to sign ekblad.

17 Jun 2025 23:32:55
Absolutely no way Colorado trades a player as valuable as Lehkonen who was their 1st line LW for much of this year.
Especially not for pennies on the dollar!

15 Jun 2025 16:15:05
Free agent signings that are something different than what I've seen

Kane 2x4
Toews 1x1
Robinson 3x3

Knies Matthews kane
Towes Tavares nylander
Mcmann Laughton Robinson
Cowan domi guy

Doesn't look great but I don't think the players will be there for Toronto to grab the dna does change by adding two guys that have done the thing more than once Toews have been off for two years so him playing centre doesn't make much sense ease him into it see how it goes

16 Jun 2025 01:18:01
Interesting lineup.
Personally i don’t care for Kane.
He is too Marner with zero physicality.
Toews ís a career center and even after missing two years is more than likely still a far better 3rd line center than Laughton.
Laughton was handed the 3rd line center position after the trade deadline and was a complete failure.
I’m not even sure Laughton is a better 4th line center than Kampf but he seems to be Beẻube’s choice.
Cowan is definitely not a 4th line defensive grinder.
Either Cowan claims the 3rd line LW slot or send him to the Marlies for development.
Domi isn’t very good and probably his weakest trait is his defense so he is completely míscast as the 4th line, defensive, PK center.
I’m not sure who Robinson is, i will have to search the list of FAs and RFAs to understand who you are referring to.
If it is simply an auto correct spelling error and you are referring to Robertson, I don’t feel he has even come close to earning a $3 million dollar per year contract.
There is also the consideration that Robertson is a LW not a RW and if Leafs want to get the best out of him, slotting him into his natural LW position would be a good start.

16 Jun 2025 10:41:57
@WB kane is a gamer scores in the biggest moments something the leafs don’t have I also think he’s a great mentor for guys like Cowan who play a similar game as for toews I’m not saying he can play centre but I’d try him on wing. The Laughton slander will continue until next year I thought he and that make shift line was the heart of the leaf in the playoffs I think getting a training camp and more time with the leafs I believe he will be the next McCabe how many deadline adds do you see just flourish with a new team right away…. It’s pretty rare as for Robinson he’s a guy who has size and speed put up good number with Carolina last year. And for Cowan I don’t think the minors are out of the question but I think if they can build a solid bottom 6 they can role the lines and he can get plenty of minutes.

17 Jun 2025 00:19:38
Sorry Goat2.0 but I have to disagree with most of your points.
Particularly Laughton who has been in the league for 10 or 11 years and shouldn’t need a training camp to get up to speed.

I would rather have Rust or Rakell from the Pens than Kane if a deal could be arranged with Dubas.
I have not noticed Kane being a difference maker in Detroit.
Why would that change when he comes to the Leafs a year older.

Robinson I know nothing about but if he is a good skater and has over 150 hits a season then Leafs could use him.

17 Jun 2025 01:29:13
@wb that’s fine don’t have to agree cause at the end of the day we’re not gms true fully I don’t see the leafs doing much history shows that when the leafs are connected to everyone they usually end up with no one lol.

15 Jun 2025 02:44:55
Leafs trade Rights to Marner

Pittsburgh trade Rust

The Media are saying Bennett will resign with Florida. Why would they not lock up Bennett



Bennett Ekblad Marchand

The Panthers won't resign Marchand and Probably can only afford one of Bennett Ekblad

So if I'm in charge of Leafs I'm signing Marchand give him more term for lower cap hit

Then Leafs sign either. Ekblad or Bennett


If Leafs can make Trade with Pittsburgh and get Rust sign Marchand and Bennett or Ekblad give Bennett and Ekblad both 7 year deals.one of them should be available

So a great offseason is Rust Marchand and either Bennett or Ekblad. Leafs can finally outbid teams. Give Marchand extra years that other teams won't give

16 Jun 2025 01:31:03
There is, of course, the minor consideration that Marner will choose where he goes, not the Leafs.
If Marner was to choose the Penguins, which is highly unlikely, why would Pens give up Rust, their 3rd highest goal scorer (31), when they can simply sign Marner to a 7 year contract on July 1st?

I would like to see the Leafs offer Marchand a $7 x 3 year or $6 x 4 year deal to become the team’s heart and soul.
Marchand May be 37 but he is epitomizes everything the Leafs need and are searching for.

It would appear that Bennett, with his Conn Smythe level performance in the SCFs, has completely priced himself out of dLeafs budget.
Paying Bennett $10 million a year for 7 years until he is 36 would be a huge mistake considering his physical style of play does not tend to age well.

Ekblad’s will also command in the $10 x 7 year range and has an extensive injury history.
Terrific player but ….
Buyer beware.

16 Jun 2025 04:35:37
I tell u let’s make a wager he goes Pittsburgh . Why trade Rust because they need to make cap room

How long can Dubas survive Pittsburgh with no UFA next season and one after that maybe

Pick where he goes.

14 Jun 2025 17:30:31
Leafs trade Mitch Marner
Pittsburgh trade Bryan Rust

I think Marner wants to hook up with Pittsburgh. The Pens can't afford both Marner and Rust. It goes a ways to replacing Marner 100 points and Rust only makes $5.1 million.

14 Jun 2025 18:25:19
That. $10 million contract of Karlsson is killing the Penguins . The only real way they become an instant playoff team is bringing in a top tier player. Marner enjoyed playing with Crosby and enjoyed playing under Dubas. It gives Marner the 8 th year. This will be the last big contract Marner signs. He may sign another contract but it’s not going to be for $13 million or whatever he signs for.

To sign Marner they will have to shed salary and it’s not Karlsson Crosby Malkin or Latang that’s already $26 million. If they sign Marner it pushes cap close to $40 million. The cap next season is $95.5 million this would be a worse cap problem than Toronto has been facing the last few years. The Leafs need to be a 3 line scoring Team. The Pens select 10th overall they have never bottomed out so Marner better be aware that when Crosby Malken and Letang retire there is nothing left. Dubas had high draft picks in Toronto the Pens 2024 drafted 44th overall 2023 drafted 14th overall 2022 drafted 21 overall 2021 they drafted 58 th 2020 they drafted 52 overall 2019 they drafted 21 overall.


Dubas is in a world of hurt if he couldn’t win in Toronto how is he going to win in Pittsburgh this year they have the 10th overall pick. There are no franchise players @ 10th overall unless you get extremely lucky. No Team needs Marner more than Pittsburgh Dubas will lose his job if he doesn’t hit home runs in free agency. He has nothing from the Penguins drafting.

14 Jun 2025 21:08:22
I don't Mariner wants to leave the LEAFS this year he might settle for a $11mil/ maybe $10Mil short term deal (1 or 2 yrs) . I think he realizes he is this close to the cup and the LEAFS only need a few impactful supporting pieces (where the discount would help) . This discount would go a long way plus with a new young family who would really want such a major change. I think achieving his dream for the cup in Toronto has more value (tangible and sentimental) than the $$$ at this stage of the game, plus having the cup + point on the resume goes a long way
. For the Rust deal the LEAFS could do Kampf, Jamkrok and a pick +? .

14 Jun 2025 22:35:19
Jake

The rumour as of today is Leafs don’t want to extend him. The truth is Marner doesn’t want to stay i

So Gladdy Jr signs with Jays and a Toronto boy Marner doesn’t want to sign

We saw what a selfish person Mitch is

He tells his teammates to wake the F up

But Marner and Matthews both underachieved in the Florida series

Now Matthews was hurt so we can understand but the nerve of Marner to call out his teammates like that shows Marner is a selfish person.

Imagine saying that to Tanev who was blocking shots putting his body on the line every night. Knies gave everything he had and was hurt but still wanted to play.

Marner using F bomb to the entire team when he was having a bad last 4 games of the Florida series. In the last 4 games of the Florida series Mitch had 1 point and MINUS 5. Then he tells his teammates to wake the F up

That was the final straw for Brad Trelliving . Marner couldn’t handle any heat and at the end of his career he will regret leaving Toronto

I’m sure he heads to Pittsburgh to be with Dubas and when Crosby Malkin and Letang retire there is nothing left. Karlsson still has 2 more years so let’s say they pay Marner $13 million and Karlsson makes $10 million that’s 2 players making $23 million . The cap next year is $95.5 million so 2 players making 25% of the cap. Dubas needs Marner because the team has drafted poorly and late so the only way the team can win in overpay free agents.

15 Jun 2025 01:23:28
David I like your response well thought out reasoning. But remember this is Maple Leafs Sports and ENTERTAINMENT. There needs to be some drama to keep the offseason alive. Cheers.

15 Jun 2025 01:42:12
Naw, mitch is going to Anaheim. They are gearing up to make the playoffs for the next 10 years.

15 Jun 2025 02:38:43
@Weathermackin

Weren't you all over saying Tre needs to resign marner yesterday?

15 Jun 2025 02:57:22
How can EDMONTON win a cup when they have that kind of goaltending

Pickard had a save % of 0.778

I try to extend Stolarz and if he won’t sign I trade him to Edmonton . I DONT LET HIM WALK TO FREE AGENCY.

15 Jun 2025 03:37:19
The PANTHERS have $76 million committed for next season

That’s without Marchand Ekblad and Bennett

Something has to give in Florida

Maybe to sign Bennett and Ekblad they have to trade Carter Verhaeghe who makes $7 million next season it’s a 8 year deal. I think Bennett is a stronger asset than Verhaeghe both have the same in points 2025 playoffs but Bennett brings more with his physical abilities. If Bennett can’t go around a player he will just hammer the player that stands in his way.

16 Jun 2025 01:42:20
You “think” Marner wants to hook up with the Penguins?
Interesting statement considering you seem to be the only person who feels the Penguins are in the running for Marner’s services.

I doubt very much that Marner wants to commit the next 7 years of his life to a franchise destined to become far worse before they begin the turnaround in their rebuild.
Crosby, Malkin, Letang and Karlsson are all aging.
Of the 4, only Crosby is aging well.
Does this look like the kind of future Marner would choose when he will have multiple teams to choose from?

I would imagine Marner will either choose a team that is close to competing for the Cup like Carolina Hurricane or LA Kings, or a young, upcoming team like San Jose, Anaheim, Chicago or even Utah who are loaded with talented youth and are only a catalyst away from breaking out as a contender.

I think Pittsburgh Penguins would be at the top of Marner’s “No Trade List”, if he had one!

14 Jun 2025 01:35:36
tor: robertson, Akhtyamov, noah


buf: tuch

leafs need to get creative to trade for decent players, tuch makes good target for RW. he hits jsut under once per game, but he blocks 1.3 shots per game. big 65 point scorer.

leafs give up scratch and score robertson, and one of our goalie prospects, aswell as what looks like a really nicely developing defenseman

buffalo is pretty solid down the middle, and might be interetsed in some extra depth on defense and goal.

16 Jun 2025 01:44:13
Cast offs and AHL players for Alex Tuch?
Even Kevyn Adams isn’t that bad a GM.

13 Jun 2025 16:29:48
Why go after Bennett at 8-10 million when you can try and make a trade for a guy that would love to come back and play for his hometown team again. What kind of a package would it take to get Kadri back???? And he's making 7 million!!

13 Jun 2025 21:50:12
Because Bennett as of right now is probably top 5 in the NHL as a playoff performer. What do the Leafs need? It’s like a perfect match. Kadri is making 7.5M for like the next 6 years and is gonna be old and wrinkly by the time this deal is done.

14 Jun 2025 00:14:30
Actually Kadri’s contract is for $7 million per year not $7.5

Also Kadri is under contract for 4 more years NOT 6 more years.

14 Jun 2025 03:06:44
Kadri is at an age where we can reasonably expect a significant decline. that's a bad, bad contract to take on without serious retention.

13 Jun 2025 02:04:42
Draft is coming up couple trades the leafs could make

Tor: 2nd (63-64) 5th 2025
Phi: 2nd (40)

Tor: Robertson
Pit: 3rd 2026

Nothing sexy but I'd like to see the leafs move up if they could Philly has 4 2nds this year

13 Jun 2025 21:46:27
Why would Philly do that? Pitts too for that matter.

13 Jun 2025 23:57:15
@clarky Philly trades back still gets a 2nd and also a 5th in this years draft teams do it every year as for the pit trade I’m simply looking at the fact that dubas loves his guys also they are going through a transition where they value young nhl player Robertson mind not be much but still puts up 15 goals consistently that’s worth something.

14 Jun 2025 00:15:52
I’m pretty sure that the offer of a 5th round pick does not move a team up 23 spots in the draft!

12 Jun 2025 13:31:48
I keep coming back to Anaheim as the best destination for Marner. Down the middle they have Carlsson, MacTavish and Strome. They lack a top end RW playmaker to feed their top 6 scoring talent. Could use a set up guy on the PP. An up and coming team with loads of young talent, cap space and assets to trade to make the team better. Good, young D-core developing. Could use a better 4C that can win draws, defend and play PK.

Ana
Marner (Sign and trade 8X$13.25M)
Kampf $2.4M

Tor
Colangelo RFA
2025 3rd(Leafs pick they get back)

If I was Anaheim, I then trade Lundestrom. He is an RFA anyway and Kampf takes his spot.

At $13.25M, basically a top end kind of bid for Marner, I don't think the Leafs get a huge return even on a sign and trade. Colangelo I like though. As I mentioned before, he kind of reminds me of a right shot Knies, but not quite as much talent. Colangelo has a knack for finding the back of the net though. Leafs get their 3rd back.

To me, a win for all involved.

12 Jun 2025 23:52:39
Seems quite reasonable if both Anaheim and Marner have chosen each other as their preferred destination.

13 Jun 2025 01:53:41
Pick got traded for krieder I think it would be great if they can get an asset but I don’t think Anaheim is marners first choice so he won’t wave.

13 Jun 2025 12:55:58
I posted before the trade. Anaheim got their own 4th back, just make it that pick + Anaheim's 2025 7th. So Anaheim's 2025 4th and 7th.

Anaheim may not be Marner's first choice, I just think it makes the most sense as they can build a winning team. Kreider will help. but is another left shot. They need Marner and Marner would be their biggest star name, which I think would appeal to him. As I mentioned before, they could also dangle the captaincy to Marner as Gudas only has one season left on his deal. Marner would love a shot at being captain imo.

13 Jun 2025 23:59:32
I think Carolina has the best shot they have their core pieces locked up and have struck out the last two years on the big name guetzel rantanen.

11 Jun 2025 15:01:41
Tor: McMann Kampf, 2025 3rd

Dal: Marchment

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Tor: Holmberg, Robertson. Voit, 2026 5th

Veg: howden

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Sign roslovic 4x4


A new look 3rd line with some size, and a nose for the net.

12 Jun 2025 01:30:34
Definitely like to see Marchment return to the Leafs.
Another terrible trade by Dubas sending him to Florida for the 165 pound, Smurf, Denis Malgin.
It made no sense whatsoever.

12 Jun 2025 12:01:38
Dallas won't want to take money back. They're trying to dump salary.

12 Jun 2025 12:30:51
@wb you're using hindsight years later. We didn't know what he would be when he was traded. We could probably keep Kampf.

12 Jun 2025 23:57:40
Hrenklin

No hindsight involved.
I said it at the time that it was another bad decision by Dubas simply based on the fact that Leafs needed physicality in the worst way and Marchment was 6’5”, 212 pounds while Malgin was 5’10”, 165 pounds.
It didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Thai was an exceedingly bad move!

13 Jun 2025 09:01:12
@Hrenklin I don't think anyone thought that was a good trade at the time either. It was obviously brutal. Margin had zero upside and Marchment had a chance to be a middle 6 guy. Dubas just made the trade to do him a favour.

13 Jun 2025 11:50:18
I would rather keep McMann. I know most are down on him because he didn't produce in the playoffs, but his size, speed and contract make him valuable.

As for the Marchment trade, I hated it from the start and said so on this site as well as others did on here back then.

13 Jun 2025 12:01:13
To me McMann is who we want to be a Marchment, so why not trade him for the player we want him to be. It's getting pathetic watching everyone complain about the leafs doing the same thing over and over again but don't want to trade anyone because they like failure apparently.

13 Jun 2025 12:36:19
Hrenklin. I don't mean keep McMann over Marchment. I mean have both. McMann is not a long time part of this team, like the core. Last year was only his second season with the Leafs and 1st full-time. McMann was part of the change we have been wanting. More size and speed that will play the body and battle along the boards and in front of the net. Removing him and replacing him with Marchment is a more sideways than moving forward. Having both is moving forward. Knies, McMann, Laughton, Marchment and try to sign Jeannot and then we have more balance around Matthews, Nylander and if JT is back.

As for wanting change, I have been one of the most vocal on here for change for years now.

14 Jun 2025 02:25:24
I decided on McMann cuz Robertson to Dallas for them to trade his brother was a not gonna happen trade.

11 Jun 2025 11:57:48
Jankrok Kampf for cap space
OEL Woll Robertson Steeves to Utah
Mcbain Crouse to Leafs
Sign
Ekblad 7yrs 9m
Taveras 5yrs 4.5m
Tanev 3yrs 2.5m
Kneis 6yrs 6m
Jannot 2yrs 2.5m

Kneis Matthews Nylander
Crouse Tavares Cowan
McCann Mcbain Jannot
Tanev Laughton Domi

Reilly Ekblad
McCabe Tanev
Benoit Carlo

Stolarz
Heildabeast.

11 Jun 2025 13:00:03
Knies gets more than 6m. Domi has to go. Ekblad says he is staying in Florida.

11 Jun 2025 15:09:17
Ok Domi anywhere for cap space
Sign Lorentz and give Kneis 8.

13 Jun 2025 00:05:10
I would assume you mean McMann as 3rd line LW not McCann unless you have already swung a deal with Seattle.

Completely agree that Kampf and Jarnkrok need to go.
I don’t see a fit for Domi in the Leafs lineup.
He certainly isn’t a 4th line, defensive grinder.

I don’t think that is enough to acquire McBain and Crouse.
Woll would be a good fit and Robertson has some potential but Steeves has been a career AHL player with little value and OEL is a salary dump.

14 Jun 2025 13:16:58
JT $3.75/ 7 years is the way to go.
Knives $7-7.5
Kampf. Jarnkrok, reeves must go but who will take them. Can bury them at a cost$2.5 million or so, no buy outs

Florida has what $19 in cap space, need a back up goalie
They want Bennett, marchant, ekblad
all for under $18 million one has to go,
Problem is Reilly has a no move contract and who wants him, what do the leafs take back.
Lets get real, no more fantasy bs
Mitch will not sign and trade,

11 Jun 2025 00:20:40
Max Domi
David Kampf
2025 5th Round Pick
2027 5th Round Pick
To the Minnesota Wild for
Future Considerations

Morgan Reilly
To the Seattle Kraken for
Andre Buravkovsky
4th Round Draft Pick in 2026

Sign Mitch Marner 8yr/13.5M
Sign Matthew Knies 7yrs/8.5M
Sign John Tavares 4yr/5.5M
Sign Steven Lorentz 3yr/1.35M
Sign Justin Brazeau 2yr/775k
Sign Max Pacioretty 1yr/1.1M
Sign Dante Fabbro 3yr/2.5M
Sign Pontus Holmberg 2yr/900k
Sign Eric Comrie 1yr/850k

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Laughton - Burakovsky
Lorentz - Holmberg - Brazeau

McCabe - Tanev
Oliver-Ekman Larsson - Carlo
Benoit - Fabbro

Stolarz-Woll-Comrie

Cap Space:

2,984,001

I know people are going to give me flak, but I'm wondering what people think of trades and signings....

11 Jun 2025 03:29:01
I like the potential target. It could work for averyone but Mo. It might be closer to BC, but he's got himself a pretty great family situation. And is still loved by leafs nation.

11 Jun 2025 09:57:43
No interest in Mitchy. This run it back narrative didn't take long to start again.

12 Jun 2025 01:42:30
Just don’t think running it back with Marner for the next 8 years works.
Great player but not a difference maker.

Pacioretti simply isn’t an everyday, 2nd line winger.
Good player, lots of heart, some physicality, but, at 36 years of age much better as an injury fill in.

I think Laughton clearly showed in his 33 games with the Leafs after the trade that he isn’t a competent, 3rd line center.
I’m not even convinced he is any better than Kampf as a 4th line center.
But Leafs are going nowhere if they can’t upgrade that 3rd line center slot.

Holmberg is better as a Swiss Army Knife, fill in, bottom six player like Pacioretti.
I don’t feel the Leafs can count on Holmberg being their 82 game shut down, 4th line center.

I like the Fabbro and Brazeau FA signings but don’t understand the need for Comrie but he isn’t overly expensive.

14 Jun 2025 13:17:34
Marner is gone like the wind.