Leafs rumours 2

11 Jan 2025 19:22:31
Tor: OEL, Kampf, Cowen, 2025 3rd

STL: parayko. 2026 5th

Leafs should make a bold statement. This is the type of player the Leafs should get for Rielly. Huge, blocks more shots, hits more and has a piss missile of a Slapshot from the point. His 23 points are even more than Rielly has this season (20). Best of all, he's a Berube player thru and thru.


Or a different perspective:

Tor: Rielly

STL: parayko

This might be the shocking move if we plan to use the assets for a solid 3c.

Rielly/ OEL - parayko
McCabe - tanev
Benoit - Timmins
Myers.

11 Jan 2025 22:53:21
I would trade Reilly way before I trade OEL. If we’re trying to improve our D, Reilly needs to be the one out the door. Just my opinion obviously but I’m getting sick of watching TJ Brodie 2.0, I’m actually starting to think it wasn’t all TJ’s fault last year, he was hung out to dry.

12 Jan 2025 01:02:01
I like the second trade much better.
I think St Louis would prefer the 1st trade proposal.

12 Jan 2025 14:37:44
I really believe a trade for Parayko makes us contenders. We don’t need anymore 4,5,6 d-men a solid #1 pushes rest of d down a spot. I would give up whatever it takes prospect wise. The good news is Parayko has a full no trade, so he has to agree to the move.

13 Jan 2025 02:34:22
Clarky…. Brodie was regularly hung out to dry by Rielly. Reilly can go anytime.

11 Jan 2025 16:38:03
There was alot of promise towards Justin Brazeau when he played for the Newfoundland Growlers, but Dumb as Dubas thought he was I guess to big for his style of players.

Hopefully Treliving can scoop him up from Boston and maybe Trent Frederick as well.

I know Boston hates Toronto but maybe just maybe they could do a deal to help both teams.

Suggested Trade,

Toronto trades Robertson, Steeves and Reaves
To
Boston for Trent Frederick and Justin Brazeau

11 Jan 2025 17:35:41
See Boston is still in a playoff spot so I don’t see why they would help the leafs out everyone is ascting like they’re in the basement.

12 Jan 2025 01:05:28
Steeves and Reaves have little to no value.
Basically you are asking Boston to trade Frederic and Brazeau for Robertson.
That trade would certainly end Sweeney’s tenure as GM of the Bruins.

10 Jan 2025 15:45:44
Toronto Trades
Rielly
Minton (AHL)

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Soucy*

*Canucks retain 1,325.000 of Soucy's remaining contract.


Would be a bold move by both Teams and The Leafs would still have to deal with Cap Space when everyone is healthy, if Toronto has to add a 2nd Rounder in this proposal or another prospect I am ok with that.


Thoughts ?

10 Jan 2025 18:41:01
You really think Leafs don’t need to add a ton to this deal? Need a 1st rd pick plus a Robertson at bare minimum.

11 Jan 2025 00:05:49
I think it would take a lot more to pry JT Miller from the Canucks.

11 Jan 2025 06:14:17
I'm not ready to punt on Mo. He's been the best playoff performer for years. This conversation happens until playoffs every single season and he shuts everyone up. For what he's paid, I'm willing to keep him.

11 Jan 2025 23:00:19
@LL I’m pretty sure Reilly has had one playoff series where he was a difference maker in over a decade. I personally don’t care if he is getting a ton of points but it’s when you’re getting paid all this money, not contributing offensively or not keeping the puck out of our net. Just watch his gap control in the neutral zone, he always loses his guy in our end because he is looking to take off and he won’t pin a guy against the boards, he always playing slap stick in puck battles. There is a reason his plus minus is the worst in this team by a mile.

10 Jan 2025 15:22:18
I'm wondering what you guys think of Ristolainen? He's having a bit of a resurgence this season and I read Philly is open to trading him.
I personally would like to target Andersson, but he would cost a lot and not sure if Calgary is even interested in trading him at this point.

To Toronto
Ristolainen $5.1M/ 3yrs

To Philly
Grebenkin ELC
2025 3rd

Obviously Leafs first need to off load some salary for draft picks to make the cap work.

10 Jan 2025 16:17:33
We need better point production on our back end. And I'm not sure moving out grebenkin is a good idea. I like how he's meshing with minten in the minors.

10 Jan 2025 16:55:45
Never wanted Risto. He has to many Tyson Barrie vibes.

10 Jan 2025 10:49:44
I don't really get how savard can't figure out the power play. enough with the one unit crap they have way too many guys that can snap it home to being doing this. Two units 50/50 in pp time

Unit one
Knies (net front) Matthews (trigger man)
Marner (quarterback) mcmann (bumper)
Reilly ( point)

Unit two
Tavares(net front) nylander (trigger) domi(setup) pacioretty (bumper)
OEL (point)

Your telling me both these units can score what's harder facing a tired loaded line or waves of offence

10 Jan 2025 18:42:36
I agree 100% Goat. I honestly don’t get why they haven’t even tried this for more than a game.

09 Jan 2025 21:17:03
Apparently the Leafs still want to add a centre. Let's assume Utah continues to fade with all their injuries. Might as well go for more than just one guy.

Utah
Kampf $2.4M
Robertson $.875M
Cowan ELC
2026 1st

Tor
Bjustad $1.05M (50% retained)
McBain $1.6M

10 Jan 2025 01:21:59
Cowan plus a 1st round pick for 3rd and 4th line centers seems somewhat excessive to me.
I like the players but would not want to sacrifice that much of the future.
Especially considering Bujgstad is already 32 and will turn 33 this summer.

10 Jan 2025 01:45:01
Could do it without Cowen. Bjugstad wouldn't be very costly.

10 Jan 2025 10:26:43
Too much I think… also I think given his cost control and age I’m starting to think it may be next to impossible to get mcbain just wouldn’t make much sense for Utah.

10 Jan 2025 12:29:48
I don't disagree that it is too much. In all fairness, I have put out many trades for McBain that would be equal to Kampf, Robertson and a 1st for McBain and you guys say it isn't enough. So, basically I add Cowan to make up the difference in value needed to get McBain and get Bjugstad at 50% retained and now it's way too much. lol

I have said many times, that as much as I like McBain and have wanted him for years, I don't think he is untouchable or that Utah won't move him. Probably need to overpay, but it's possible. I wouldn't want the Leafs to move McMann, but if a deal came along that would be stupid not to take, Leafs should take it.

10 Jan 2025 16:56:57
Solid trade imo. They love McBain and won't let him go cheap.

What does a young-ish, middle 6 centre of McBain's quality go for? Probably a 1st plus.

11 Jan 2025 00:21:24
RLF

How about switching Cowan out for Minten?
Utah is giving up a center and a C/ LW so Minten replaces some of the loss.

I like the thought of McBain and next year, Grebenkin on the same line.

09 Jan 2025 21:01:18
Leafs Trade Deadline

Leafs Trade :
Nick Robertson - $875K
Dennis Hidleby - $850K
David Kampf - $2.4M
Simon Benoit - $1.35M
Connor Timmins - $1.1M
Matt Benning - $1.25M
Noah Chadwick - Minors
Roni Hirvonen - Minors
Alex Steeves - Minors

Nashville Trade :
Ryan O'Reilly - $4.5M
Luke Schenn - $2.75M

Calgary Trades :
Rasmus Andersson - $4.55M
$$$



Three Way Deadline Blockbuster

Leafs Receive
Rasmus Andersson - $4.5M (For Dennis Hidleby, Calle Jarnkrok, David Kampf, Connor Timmins, Matt Benning)
Ryan O'Reilly - $2.25M (For Nick Robertson, Alex Steeves, and a 3rd round pick)
Luke Schenn - $1.375M (For Simon Benoit & Roni Hirvonen)

--

Calgary Receive
Dennis Hidleby (For Rasmus Andersson)
David Kampf - $2.4M (For Rasmus Andersson)
Connor Timmins - $1.1M (For Rasmus Andersson)
Calle Jarnkrok - $2.1M (For Rasmus Anderson)
Matt Benning - $1.25M (For Rasmus Anderson)

Noah Chadwick - Minors (For 50% of O'Reilly's Contract)
Ty Voit - Minors (For 50% of O'Reilly's & Schenn's Contracts)
2027 Leafs 4th round pick (For 50% of Schenn's Contract)

50% of Ryan O'Reillys salary for 2 years
50% of Luke Schenn salary for 2 years

--

Nashville Receive
Nick Robertson - $800K (For Ryan O'Reilly)
Alex Steeves - Minors (For Ryan O'Reilly)
2025 Leafs 3rd round pick (For Ryan O'Reilly)

Roni Hirvonen - Minors (For Luke Schenn)
Simon Benoit - $1.35M (For Luke Schenn)



Playoff Lineup

Knies ($925K) - Matthews ($13.25M) - Marner ($10.9M) - 25.075
Pacioretty ($875K) - Tavares ($11M) - Nylander ($11.5M) - 23.375
McMann ($1.35M) - O'Reilly ($2.25M) - Domi ($3.75M) - 7.35
Reaves ($1.35M) - Dewar ($1.2M) - Lorentz ($775K) - 3.325

Total spent on forwards : 59.125


Rielly ($7.5M) - Andersson ($4.5M)
McCabe ($2M) - Tanev ($4.5M)
OEL ($3.5M) - Schenn ($1.375M)

Total spent on defence $23.375M

Stolarz $2.5M
Woll $775K

Total spent on goalies : $3.3M

TEAM TOTAL : $85.775M


Who says no?

10 Jan 2025 01:31:37
Ryan O’Reilly will be 34 years old in 3 or 4 weeks and Luke Schenn is 35.
Leafs should have been targeting Alexandre Carriere (28) before Montreal traded for him.

Rasmus Anderson is a top 4 maybe top pairing RHD.
One of the most coveted positions in the NHL.
I don’t think a quantity of 3rd/ 4th line players, bottom pairing defensemen, AHL players and “B” prospects will interest Calgary no matter how many you throw into the deal.
Quality over quantity is the axiom here.

10 Jan 2025 01:45:49
Looks like way too many moving parts.

10 Jan 2025 04:36:33
Hard pass from CGY.

10 Jan 2025 10:28:06
Yea this isn’t junior when ten pieces get moved for 1 player.

10 Jan 2025 10:57:52
Anderson will probably command a 1st and solid prospect, without retention.

11 Jan 2025 18:16:11
Sounds like a corporate acquisitions not jockey trades lol.

09 Jan 2025 15:16:52
Ignore my other post
Leafs sign Toews for 3C (no assests required) and then target a legit top 4 RHD.

To Toronto
Rasmus Andersson $4.55M
2025 3rd round pick
2026 3rd round pick

To Calgary
Robertson $.875M (Calgary needs scoring)
Kampf $2.4M (Zary may be out for awhile)
Timmins $1.1M (D depth)
2025 2nd
2026 1st

Thoughts?

09 Jan 2025 18:12:37
I'm not sold on the Toews thing. Is there a date he needs to be signed by to be eligible for playoffs?

As for the deal, I don't think Calgary is adding any picks if that's the offer. That said I would think the Flames would be looking for an immediate impact forward at a good age (like Knies) if they are trading Andersson. Other wise, it's probably a high prospect (Cowan) +. If they trade Andersson, that would signal a rebuild of some kind I would think, but I am not sure if they want to take a guy like Robertson as the main piece.

Maybe something like Cowan, Timmins, 2026 1st? I think Leafs would have to make some cap room with other trades prior to chasing a guy like Andersson. Maybe move Robertson and Holmberg for picks and use those picks to help acquire Andersson.

10 Jan 2025 01:35:55
Agree with RLF.
Rasmus Andersson is a top4 maybe top pairing RHD playing one of the most coveted positions in the NHL.
I think you’re looking at Cowan and Leafs 2026 - 1st round pick to acquire him along with the necessary cap considerations.

10 Jan 2025 01:47:57
RLF the trade deadline is also the playoff deadline. So any player acquired after wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs. Any player within the organization would be eligible.

10 Jan 2025 10:31:05
When it comes to towes I think if and it’s a big if he resumes his career it would be next year the man just started skating maybe he’s the leafs pacioretty for next season? As for Anderson great player but don’t see Calgary picking up the phone because of tree.

10 Jan 2025 13:49:37
Hrenklin. Thanks. That's what I figured, but wasn't sure.

09 Jan 2025 15:11:38
As was mention, Leafs sign Toews for 3C (no assets required) and go for a legit top4 RHD.

To Toronto
Rasmus Andersson $4.55M
2025 3rd

To Calgary
Robertson $.875M
Kampf $2.4M (Zary may be out long term)
Timmins $1.1M.

09 Jan 2025 15:52:53
Can toews even play at NHL level? It's been a couple years.

09 Jan 2025 18:17:36
I don't think that's even close for Andersson. I'd probably throw in a first and a better prospect.

I'm wondering about Towes as well. Maybe he's still a solid 3C option, but I have no idea.

10 Jan 2025 01:41:43
Robertson, Kampf and Timmins for Rasmus Andersson?

A 3rd line player, a 4th line player and a bottom pairing defenseman for a top 4 maybe even top pairing RHD one of the most coveted positions in the NHL plus you want Calgary to throw into a 3rd round pick?
I don’t think that is a very likely scenario.
Think in terms of a top prospect (Cowan, Minten or Danford) plus Leafs 2026 - 1st round pick.

09 Jan 2025 14:00:21
Tor: Rielly

Fla: ekblad

Lateral move mostly, but switches things up a touch. I know it's highly unlikely but, would make an interesting adjustment.

09 Jan 2025 01:59:24
Here's a thought.

Leafs trade:

Holmberg
Robertson
Kamph

Philadelphia trade:

Laughton

If needed Leafs add Reaves, and or Timmins

Any thoughts

09 Jan 2025 10:33:25
I don’t think it’s far off but I don’t see Philly taking Holmberg and Kampf. I’d say Robertson, Kampf, 3rd rd pick 2025. Or maybe we give them a 2nd with a 3rd coming back. IMO.

11 Jan 2025 18:26:31
Philly look for a 1st for Laughton. That is what is being said of they won’t move him.