Leafs rumours 2

02 Apr 2020 19:22:18
Tor: Johnsson
Ana: comtois

I really like this kid idk what he value is but he's a winger center that plays a gritty game and has some offensive upside has yet to play at the level he did in junior but for sure could see him as a solid third liner

02 Apr 2020 22:30:07
If Anaheim will go for this then I think it's a great way to save some money on a younger guy with a similar offensive output to Johnsson.

03 Apr 2020 01:06:01
Think Anaheim would be willing to take on an older player like Johnsson though? I'm not too sure what their strategy is right now. I don't even think they know. But if they are going full on rebuild, chances are Johnsson is a little outside their age range. Comtois is only 4.5 years younger than Johnsson, but in hockey, that's a pretty big difference. In five years He Hansson will be 30 and past his prime. Comtois will be in the middle of his.

If Ducks are just retooling and want to get back in the playoff hunt right away, I can see them making this deal.

03 Apr 2020 02:14:30
I prefer comtois to Johnson any time. Only issue I see is Johnson value is so low right now. Especially to a rebuilding team because he isn't a young cat anymore.

02 Apr 2020 13:06:40
Tor: Andersen
Chi: Murphy 2nd 2021

Tor: Johnsson 2nd 2021 tor Woll
Pits: Murray

So another deal where we move out a guy like Freddy who we can't afford to resign for one and for two probably don't want to resign bring in a younger goalie who is proven won two cups and add a rhd

02 Apr 2020 22:31:29
I would just sign Robin Lehner then you could use Johnsson as a trade chip for something else.

02 Apr 2020 23:25:02
Yea for sure we could but my goal here was to get a long term goalie.

03 Apr 2020 01:12:12
That's a good idea too MostLeaf. Only problem is that Lehner wants a big raise too. He has made it clear that he will be going to the highest bidder this year. He will not take another short term low paying deal. He has nothing left to prove. I can't blame him, can you? Lehner is going to cost at least as much as Andersen. So may as well just keep Andersen then. I think Leafs1994 strategy is to find a guy that is cheaper and younger. Lehner doesn't really match either qualification.

I like this strategy Leafs1994. And Chicago is definitely a team that can use a good starting goalie. You nailed it there. I can see both these deals happening. I think the value is fair, and team needs are all met. It almost makes too much sense. In fact, it makes so much sense that we probably won't ever see something like this happen.

03 Apr 2020 02:15:22
Signing a UFA is the best way to guarentee you overpay on contracts. I would prefer a trade but if lehner was signed to a decent deal that's a plan too.

03 Apr 2020 19:43:16
We would have to make the Pittsburgh deal first.

I'm not sure we would get a roster player for Andersen either since he's on his last year. But we would probably get a pick. And we would have to take a cap dump back because Chicago is tight against the cap. So maybe something like Saad + 3rd is more realistic. But the idea is still a good one. It's a smart strategy.

01 Apr 2020 20:33:13
Reilly for Eckblad + 1st. In this deal I would trade Marner for Huberdeau.

Reilly + Marner for Ekblad + Huberdeau + 2nd

Anderson than can be extended eventually.

Johnsson + Dermott for Theodore.

Robertson plays 3rd Line LW with Kerfoot and Mikheyev
Clifford signed 4th Line LW

Theodore Ekblad
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren

01 Apr 2020 21:53:33
I really can't believe how some of these posters overvalue the worth of the Leafs bottom of the lineup players and unheard of Marlies players who aren't good enough to play in the NHL. Reilly and Marner for Ekblad and Huberdeau seems fair while Johnson and Dermott for Theodore is very bad for any team not named the Leafs.

01 Apr 2020 22:44:22
Dear Ij,

So if you think the trade for Theodore is undervalued. Than add a high draft pick.
Johnsson + Dermott + 2nd Round pick. So when you state is a bad trade, what would considered a more balance trade. To me Johnsson + Dermott for Ristolainen is a reasonable trade as an alternative
Dermott + for Sanheim of Philadelphia is a fair trade.

01 Apr 2020 23:23:03
I have very high hopes for Dermott. I know I'm alone in my man crush there lol but I still believe he can be a 1LHD one day. He performed extremely well in Reilly and Muzzin's absence.

FLA probably wouldn't do this. They get the best players but Reilly is a rental+ and Marner gives them major cap issues.

02 Apr 2020 02:32:54
Island Jet.

Johnsson + Dermott for Theodore is a lousy trade. Would Toronto adding a high draft pick, make it a fairer deal?
Just saying is a lousy deal, and denigrating an opinion is basically trolling.

02 Apr 2020 05:08:04
It's almost as bad as the way Jets fans value their players.

Leafs-Panthers will never make a trade unless it's fringe players and bottom feeders. I'd rather have Reilly over Ekblad, but I would take Huberdeau and that sweet contract of his over Marner and his bloated contract. Leafs would have to retain salary for this deal to happen.

The other deal isn't nearly as bad as certain Jets fans night think. Theodore is a good goalie, but he ain't too 10 in the league or anything. If you replaced Johnsson with Kapanen or (especially) Hyman, this deal would probably get a lot more consideration. As is, you get their attention, but probably not enough. Johnsson was riddled with injury last year, and it really reflected in his stats. I always say Leafs should never trade for damaged goods, no matter how good the player might have been before injury (Dumba's cough, cough) . I wouldn't expect any other gm to take our damaged goods either.

02 Apr 2020 16:58:12
Taking on previously injured players is something I would 100% do in the right circumstances. Kawhi came back from possible career ending surgery. Brees did the same. Many athletes across all sports have done it and made their teams better in the process. Just has to be the right peice.

03 Apr 2020 01:02:54
Good point LeafsLife. Kahwi sure did a fine job. Too bad Tavares couldn't win us the cup his first year here too. Wouldn't that have been something. Lol.

The good thing about taking on injured players is that they are going to be cheap to acquire. The bad thing about taking on injured players is that they are damaged goods. The odds of regression is high after a player gets hurt. If you have faith in a players ability to turn it on again after being hurt and can get him for dirt cheap, then go for it. Like you said, if the price is right, why not?

01 Apr 2020 17:55:04
Now before you all start ripping my post up I also think that Dermont could be resigned with the money saved from putting Gauthier on waivers and Speeza not resigned.

Toronto could trade him for defense help instead of signing a UFA OR could trade him for picks.

Nylander or Marner will probably be moved next season 2021-2022 to make cap space for signing Andersen and Rielly. But hopefully the cap goes up by then and we can keep them.

01 Apr 2020 18:04:48
I don't see Nylander helping. Has to be Marner or Nylander+Johnson/ Kapanen. Moving out a guy making 6.9 just doesn't seem to help if your signing both. Reilly will need at least 10/ yr. Freddy probably 7/ yr. So if the cap goes up by say 4mil and you trade Marner for picks and prospect you can resign both. Otherwise you trade Nylander+Kapanen and have a very weak top 9 after 3 guys.

02 Apr 2020 05:01:55
I think Dubas will trade our entire third line (Johnsson, Kapanen, and Kerfoot) before he bites the bullet and admits his mistake and trades any if the top 4 guys.

Dubas entire philosophy is built around hockey being a strong-link sport. He will have an entire bottom six of fringe players making league minimum before he parts with any of our top 4. And by the time he realizes he has to trade Marner, it might be too late. That will be the job of his successor.

02 Apr 2020 15:27:01
Idk if anyone has watched the video with button and how he said where the leafs went wrong was signing Tavares he says it made no sense they had kadri at 2c coming off back to back 30+ goal years not to mention offence was not an issue which eventually led to the departure of kadri and even brown who was a horse and one of our best pk guys also button went on to say that if played a big part in both marner and Matthews contract I think a big piece needs to be moved to try and balance things out I can see the leafs going backwards next year.

02 Apr 2020 17:38:37
I would agree with that one too Leafs1994. Most teams in the NHL would be ecstatic having Matthews and Kadri as our too centres. Sure, no doubt Tavares is a better player than Kadri. But is he a $7M better player than Kadri. That $7M could have bought us a proper 1RHD on multi-year contract. If I had a choice between Tavares or Kadri+Dumba (for example), I would keep Kadri+Dumba every time.

02 Apr 2020 21:01:35
Didn't see what your talking about Leafs1994 but I agree completely there. I didn't really see why we needed Tavares at the time either. He's a better player and I am happy to have him but at the end of the day he isn't so much better than Kadri that 11m is justified.

02 Apr 2020 22:38:58
Robin Lehner is a better, cheaper, and underated replacement for Freddy imo. Just look where he took the Islanders.

I don't think the leafs should be re-signing Freddy to a contract over 7 million and Reilly may not actually cost as much. It totally depends on next year.

03 Apr 2020 19:48:08
He didn't take Chicago anywhere this year though. He faced about the same amount of shots in Chicago as he will face on the Leafs. So is a goalie with a 3.00 gaa really better choice than Anderson? He do about the same job for us as Andersen and cost just the same. Except Lehner needs signing this year, so his cap hit would come in a year when the cap might not be going up. So it's probably not a good idea to be adding salary in net this year if we can avoid it.

01 Apr 2020 17:47:01
Tor:
Manson

Ana:
Johnsson
Dermott
2020 4th

01 Apr 2020 18:04:57
Back to this? Lol.

02 Apr 2020 22:39:37
Sigh, I thought everyone forgot about the rubbish bottom pairing defenceman from Anaheim.

01 Apr 2020 17:42:26
Correction on my last post.
Toronto trades Kapanen, kivihalme
To buffalo for Ristolainen or Montour. Salary out 4 million, salary in $5 million

01 Apr 2020 18:05:57
Can't be adding salary. If you add even 1 million you need to trade Johnson or Kerfoot for picks and prospects which in itself weakens areas significantly.

01 Apr 2020 17:33:24
So as we all know Barrie and Ceci are coming off the books as UFAS.
That is 7 million.
I believe like most that A. Johsson will be traded as well as Kerfoot and Kapanen and this is why and how I think it will turn out.

I think Dubas will revisit the non Kadri trade to Calgary as Kerfoot is to expensive and not good on face offs. The experiment with Kerfoot on the wing with Tavares was not productive as he looks lost and slow to the play most nights.
Therefore I am suggesting that

Toronto trades; Kerfoot and J. Bracco to Calgary for M.Jamkowski and a 3rd in 2020. Sign Jamkowski for 2 yrs @ 2.2 million. Savings of 2 million

Next I am predicting that Toronto trades; A.Johnnson to Columbus for josh Anderson.
I know that everyone has mentioned or made this trade many times but Anderson plays the right side and we know Kapanen is being shopped for defense help and he can play on any of the four forward lines.
So Toronto offers Anderson 3yrs @ 2.5 million. Savings of 1.5 million

Now that gives us $10.5 million to sign our Rfas and UFA Clifford.

So perhaps Mikheyev signs 2 million for 2yrs and Clifford signs 2.75 for 3yrs. So $4.75 spent, $5.25 million left.
Now on to the Defence for now, Toronto trades; Kapanen, telivenne
To buffalo for Ristolainen or Montour. Both have term left on contracts. $4 million out $5 million in. $4.25 left in cap space.
Toronto could then sign a 3rd pair defensive player such UFAS, Pysyk, Tanav, Soucy for say 2-3 million for 2yrs.
So this could be the line up for next season.
Forwards
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Barashov/Robertson Tavares Marner
Mikheyev Jamkowski Anderson
Korshov Clifford Engvall
Defense
Rielly/ Ristolainen or Montour
Muzzin/ Holl
Dermont/ Pysyk or Tanav

Sandin and lilegren need more time in minors
Gauthier waivers
Speeza gone.

01 Apr 2020 18:10:42
You won't get Jamkowski for that. Far as I can tell they like him. They also wanted Kadri because he's a centre not a LW.

Ceci and Barrie is 7m but your forgetting a few guys get raises. Mikheyev, Dermott need to be resigned and won't be making league min. Anymore. Muzzin and Engvall already were resigned and are getting raises. That's the 7m right there. Clifford will be looking at probably 2m so that's 9 now if Spezza agrees to sign another league minimum and goat either takes minimum or is traded.

Third pair will be Liljigren and Sandin. Defence for next year other than a top 4 D is already locked up.

Reilly?
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljigren.

02 Apr 2020 04:52:39
Kapanen to Flames makes a lot more sense to me. He's a right shot, and Calgary only has two right shots in the forwards. So I could see them having interest in Kapanen more than they would want Kerfoot. Would they trade Bennett for Kapanen though, I don't know. I don't see why not. It's not like Bennett is a top six player. He's a good player, sure, but he's not part of the core to the team. And that exact same description applied to Kapanen.

02 Apr 2020 04:58:32
Jankowski only had 7 points this year so far. That isn't even 4th line production. If Calgary said no to this deal their gm should be fired. Like him or not, he's a big risk at $2M+. Kerfoot is a much better player.

I don't think either Sandin or Liljegren will he seeing any more time in the AHL. They both did good in the NHL this year. They should be a bottom pairing for us this year. Maybe use them in limited roles on pk and power play and build minutes from there.

If they go to the AHL at all, it's only because Leafs have too many good defensemen right now and would have to make room for them to get enough minutes that it makes sense for them to be in the NHL. If they are only going to get less than 10-12 minutes a game, then maybe the AHL is better for them.

01 Apr 2020 16:00:40
Tor: Andersen
Col: zadorov 2nd 2020

Tor: 2nd avs Engvall
Pit: Murray

Tor: Johnsson Dermott
Buf: risto

So we know we can afford Andersen so is now time to move him zadorov is a great option now after we do that we need a replacement income Murray rfa I was thinking 6x6 is fair proven winner had a rough year but still only 25 last one is two player that to me have become expendable our d becomes a lot bigger harder to play against and we get a long term option in net

Reilly risto
Muzzin zadorov
Sandin Holl

Murray
Campbell

01 Apr 2020 18:03:31
I like the idea of replacing Andersen with Murray. And Avs definitely have the cap space to re-sign Freddie, but does Colorado need a goalie though? That Francouz kid was looking good last year.

Lol. Not sure if our d gets harder to play against. A lot bigger, yes. Harder to play against, I'm not so sure. Ristolaonen can't even skate. Last I saw he was falling down on the ice with the nearest skater like 40 feet away from him. Lol. I guess his lack of defense wouldn't be an issue on the Leafs though. Seems like the whole team is focused on offense without even thinking about defense.

02 Apr 2020 12:04:53
First off with the goalies I think if we traded Freddy it’s going to be a western conference team that’s a contender yes the avs have that young guy but maybe I guess do they think the kid can carry theM to a cup as for the defence yea I seen the risto clip where he took himself out but what I was getting by harder to play against is battles in front of the net the physicality those player bring are what the leafs need.

02 Apr 2020 17:42:28
The Clio I saw was labelled "Ristolainen taken out by The Invisible Man". Oh man, I thought that was funny. He's an infinitely better skater than me though, so I shouldn't laugh too hard.