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17 May 2022 14:53:05
While I don't support a tear down or start over, I think some changes are needed

A big trade I think the Leafs could pull off to move forward could be

To DET: F - W. Nylander + C - SDA + G - P. Mrazek

To TOR: F - T. Bertuzzi + C - J. Veleno + 2022 2nd round pick

The Leafs get adds as Nylander is superior to Bertuzzi, socred 34G and 80 pts vs 30G and 62pts. It would be a 1st, but the Leafs flip Mrazek in this deal.

Cap in $4.75M
Cap out $10.8M

Use $6M cap to re-sign Campbell, Gio, Sandin and Liligren

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1.) 17 May 2022 15:12:50
Not bad T-buds, but I don't think Detroit does it. They have lots of UFA's end of next season that are all Nylander's age or slightly older. I don't think this is the year that they make this kind of move as they seem to be stock piling picks and prospects.


2.) 17 May 2022 17:26:41
That's fair. Nylander is a year younger, and signed for an extra year, figured Detroit may go for this package.


3.) 17 May 2022 20:44:17
All good except I wouldn’t resign Giordano. I find he’s not able to keep up with the play.


 

 

31 Mar 2022 20:47:35
Offseason trade

To DET: F - W. Nylander

To TOR: F - T. Bertuzzi

Bertuzzi is 1 year older and only signed for 1 more year, while Nylander is signed for 2

Cap In $4.75M
Cap Out $6.95M

Cap savings $2.2M

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1.) 31 Mar 2022 21:09:40
I posted something (almost) identical a few weeks back, I would still do this. DET adds something based on age and contract I think.


2.) 31 Mar 2022 23:17:06
I'd agree they may add slightly. Maybe a swap of picks where the Leafs improve. Maybe a swap of a 3rd for a 6th.


 

 

20 Mar 2022 17:03:26
Leafs trades by the deadline. Leafs go hard!

To TOR: D - M. Giordano (50% retained)

To SEA: 2022 2nd round pick + D - T. Dermott + 2023 4th

*potential to pay another team a pick to eat half of his salary again, if needed.

and

To TOR: F - JT. Miller (25% retained) + D - L. Schenn

To VAN: 2022 1st round pick + D - J. Holl + 2024 3rd + F - N. Robertson + F - R. Hirovenen

Total Cap in: $8.25M

Total Cap out:$4.3M

New line up

Bunting Matthews Marner
Miller Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Kase/Mikheyev
Engvall Spezza Simmonds

Rielly Brodie
Giordano Lyubushkin
Muzzin Schenn
Sandin Liljegren

Campbell
Mrazek

In this scenario, the Leafs can also continue to hold Muzzin out to accrue the LTIR space as no need to rush him back for 3rd pair mins

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1.) 21 Mar 2022 03:08:51
Miller would be a great fit on Leafs second line but that is not nearly enough to pry him loose from Vancouver when you consider Hagel got the Blackhawks two 1st round picks.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 14:00:50
To NJD: D - T. Dermott + G - P. Mrazek + F - N. Robertson + 2022 1st

To TOR: D - D. Severson + G - J. Gilles

Leafs pick up Severson and offset his cap hit even for next year with Dermott and Mrazek going the other way.

New Jersey picks up our top prospect and a 1st. Win win for both teams

Torontobuds

1.) 18 Mar 2022 21:14:10
Not even close. 7th D, very bad goaltender and a first+prospect for Severson alone doesn't do it. No one will take Mrazek without payment.


 

 

12 Mar 2022 12:12:22
Muzzin has regressed this year, but the team has him for 2 more year. However, they need to plan now.
Muzzin would still be better than Holl no matter what IMO.

To ARZ: 2022 1st + F - N. Robertson + D - J. Holl + D - T. Dermott + F - R. Hirovenen

To TOR: D - J. Chychrun + F - J. Beagle (IR)

Coyotes get a 1st plus a high quality young player in Robertson. They also get 2 Dmen, 1 young in Dermott and a prospect.
Leafs add in Holl for Cap reasons and Arizona needs players for next year, they also get a 2nd round pick prospect

Leafs take on the IR contract of Beagle for the remainder of this year in this deal.

New D

Rielly Brodie
Chychrun Muzzin
Sandin Lyubushkin
Liljegren

In the off-season the Leafs re-sign Lyubushkin and run with the same D. If Muzzin can't stay healthy he goes on LTIR and Liljegren is a regular in the line up.

Torontobuds

1.) 12 Mar 2022 13:08:15
Pretty decent offer I'd be happier if we could substitute anbruzee in for Robertson.


2.) 12 Mar 2022 14:21:45
So here is the thing. Muzzin might have regressed, but he still the best defenseman we have at keeping the puck out of the net. Stop thinking a defenseman is supposed to put the puck in the net. If you haven't noticed, the leafs hold leads when muzzin is in the line up.


3.) 12 Mar 2022 14:39:55
Adding anything offensive dman will do nothing for the leafs not to mention dubas isn’t going to pay that price also muzzin can’t play the right side.


4.) 12 Mar 2022 15:45:45
Just to be clear. I still like Muzzin. His regression may be playing with Holl, don't know. I think adding in a big bodied Dman like Chychrun can only help.
I'm willing to try Muzzin on the RHD with Chychrun.


5.) 12 Mar 2022 21:54:02
Muzzin has already failed at rhd otherwise he'd be playing with sandin.

Chychrun is not the player we're looking for. Manson, Giordano are the type we need.


6.) 12 Mar 2022 22:10:44
@T-buds if Muzzin could play right side he would have already.


7.) 13 Mar 2022 00:23:51
Totally Disagree. Muzzin on the ice has allowed significant goals against the Leafs this season. My hope is that Muzzin never returns and retires due to his concussion history. The Leafs don't need or want Muzzin.


8.) 13 Mar 2022 06:29:45
@NM half of a bad season and we write the guy off?


 

 

 

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18 May 2022 14:35:25
I'm sorry is it April Fools day? Trading the likely Hart Trophy winner, not happening. Matthews will re-sign, he doesn't want to go to Arizona and play on that small 5K crowd arena.

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17 May 2022 17:26:41
That's fair. Nylander is a year younger, and signed for an extra year, figured Detroit may go for this package.

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17 May 2022 17:25:34
Trading Lilijegren is a mistake, he improved leaps and bounds this year. He could be a mainstay for years.

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17 May 2022 14:18:21
Don't think Sandin and Liljegren even get $1.5M and if so 2 years.

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31 Mar 2022 23:17:56
Liljegren finally playing really good hockey and now you trade him away.
Leafs are giving up way too much.

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