Current Avatar:
No Avatar image uploaded
No Avatar image uploaded
Leafs Rumours Member Posts
LeafsLife's Profile
LeafsLife's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To LeafsLife's Posts
To LeafsLife's last 5 rumours posts
To LeafsLife's last 5 banter posts
To LeafsLife's last 5 rumour replies
To LeafsLife's last 5 banter replies
LeafsLife's rumours posts with other poster's replies to LeafsLife's rumours posts
10 May 2024 03:03:09
In the interest of fairness, I have made this trade prop since I joined the site (maybe 5 or 6 years ago) . Opinions change, mine included, on it.
Tor Marner
Ott Chabot.
1.) 10 May 2024 03:35:42
Chabot, an always injured defenseman of the Ottawa Senators is a left handed defender, not even remotely filling the needs of the Toronto Maple Leafs who are in dire need of a top pairing right handed defenseman who is not injured 20+ games per season.
2020 - 2021 - 49 games played
2021 - 2022 - 59 games played
2022 - 2023 - 68 games played
2023 - 2024 - 51 games played.
2.) 10 May 2024 14:41:15
Marner for Tkachuk?
13 Apr 2024 21:10:56
Now might be the time to pick the carcass of the failed Yotes. I'm sure not everyone will want to move to Utah.
They seem to really. like Jack mcbain, but I'd love to throw some offers out there. Maybe Robertson+late-ish pick?
1.) 14 Apr 2024 02:08:24
I'm not sure if there will be a carcass. I would assume Utah will want to be good, especially since the League is expected to buy the team for $1B.
2.) 14 Apr 2024 03:06:07
@RLF doesn't mean every player wants yo move to Utah. It's unlike any other place in NA in a lot of ways, ans they signed up for Arizona.
Good time to at least try.
3.) 14 Apr 2024 05:44:47
It is the management who determine the trades not the players.
4.) 14 Apr 2024 13:17:07
LL. Yes, but as waterbuffalo said, the players under team control don't get to decide, unless you are predicting a revolt from the players. I doubt players wanted to go from Atlanta to Winnipeg either. Does Robertson+ get McBain? Maybe. But I don't think it will be because all the players demand to get out of playing in Utah.
5.) 15 Apr 2024 13:37:06
The fact that Arizona has to win the land auction, for their new arena and the league already has Utah as a contingency plan. Kinda stinks of some shady dealings. Someone just has to outbit Yates ownership (the league and or Utah owners) .
6.) 15 Apr 2024 19:22:33
Leafs67. It is weird isn't it.
7.) 15 Apr 2024 22:42:08
@L67 the best part is the league taking 200m for no reason.
8.) 16 Apr 2024 14:26:02
Vegas paid 500M, Seattle 650M.
Utah 700+M?
Outbit the Yotes, then flip the property. Almost seems to easy lol.
9.) 16 Apr 2024 21:53:50
@L67 pretty sure Utah is paying 1.2b.
10.) 17 Apr 2024 11:29:37
Wow! So is the fee just gonna continue to double?
11.) 17 Apr 2024 21:16:26
Yeah, franchise values are skyrocketing league wide. If you pay 1.2b to acquire the Yotes, what is a real team worth?
12.) 18 Apr 2024 13:52:17
I believe the $1.2B is for lock stack and barrel. Players, management, equipment etc. The fees paid by Vegas and Seattle were just for the franchise fees. How does that all equate value wise? I have no idea.
13.) 18 Apr 2024 14:57:55
@RLF they're calling this an "expansion" though, so I'm assuming it's a way of pulling some shady moves to make more money.
14.) 18 Apr 2024 16:24:20
LL. IIRC, there is something in their about the current Yotes ownership has 5 years to be able to bring a team back to Arizona or something like that. New arena site, Shovels in the ground on a new arena, finances in order etc have to all be done in 5 years. It is a strange situation. It's like the League is giving the owner $1B and 5 years to get it done and then charging the Utah group $1.2B to have the franchise, but Arizona ownership has 5 years to show they can have a franchise and likely the League then charges them a franchise fee. I don't know. It's confusing.
15.) 18 Apr 2024 19:15:37
@RLF that's the odd part. It's like a billion dollar loan, as he also has to spend 1B if he wants the team.
29 Mar 2024 21:37:35
Good signing for Benoit and the team. He almost doubles his salary going forward, gets a 3 year deal, and still has something to play for as he will expire in his late 20s.
Tre getting him at a bottom pairing number for 3 years is also stellar.
It brought me back to the Justin Holl and Pierre Engvall signings seeing this recently. Middle 6 and bottom pairing players Dubas signed vs McCann and Benoit for Tre. I have to look at this as almost exactly the same situation, except Tre did a better job.
1.) 30 Mar 2024 02:50:15
McMann not McCann.
Dubas left McCann unprotected in the expansion draft in order to protect Justin Holl.
2.) 30 Mar 2024 03:17:54
@WB yes, I know the name, I watch him quite a lot lol.
Auto-coerect always changes it, and I figured everyone (other than you apparently), understood.
3.) 30 Mar 2024 04:49:07
It is great signing we see how many more they sign b4 end of season
Robertson 2 years $1.35 mil per
Liljegren 3 years x $3 million per
Domi 3 years x $2.5 million per
Bertuzzi 4 years $3.5 million per
Jones 2 years $1.35 million per
2 players that don need a lot of high talent around them and can drive lines Matthews and Marner.
4.) 30 Mar 2024 12:21:13
Sorry I don't want lily or Robertson back I hope they are in a pkg for a legit top 4 d man.
5.) 30 Mar 2024 13:43:00
All his signings with term are big and physical and play a heavy style of game. Not talking about Willy obviously. I mean Reaves, Benoit, McMann and yes, even Kampf. He will evaluate Boosh and Edmundson and then if he likes them, I wouldn't be surprised if he can get them at the right number to try and extend them. Benoit and Boosh as a 3rd pair tendem wouldn't upset me at all. Rielly and McCabe as the top pair. Then have to fill in the middle.
Johnny. What I have been saying for a while as well. I just don't see Liljegren do anything well enough to compensate for his lack of physical prowess defensively. Maybe with the right partner? I am definitely not sold on him being more than a #5.
Mackin. I see Robertson and Jones as the only realistic numbers you have there.
6.) 30 Mar 2024 18:03:16
I see lily as nothing more than a 3rd pairing guy as well and he's soft.
7.) 31 Mar 2024 17:54:34
Come on David, I told you to pick a new favourite.
Robertson and Llyigren will be traded at the draft to San Jose and Anaheim for picks.
Bertuzzi I would resign but only at $3.5
Domi will be not be resigned, and Jones will be replaced with Talbot.
Get on the Barbolini train David as Robertson is leaving.
01 Mar 2024 05:06:07
Great trade.
3rd and late pick for Boosh at 675k?
Well played tree.
1.) 01 Mar 2024 11:30:51
Indeed Trev got it right this time. Still has cap space plus with Giordano most likely going on LTIR just got back all that cap space plus more. We’ll done ??.
2.) 01 Mar 2024 11:42:52
I’m down on this trade yes they didn’t give up much but boosh isn’t the difference maker they need I hope he targets a decent forward.
3.) 01 Mar 2024 12:34:43
Good trade. When you can get a physical 3rd pair D for a 3rd and 6th and for $675K, how can someone complain.
4.) 01 Mar 2024 12:37:54
Not a flashy trade, but and absolutely Solid trade! That plus Woll back in net. Things are starting to look up.
18 Jan 2024 15:55:23
Everyone is screaming for Keefe to be fired because that will fix these issues. Although I agree, I think you need to point out how bad this team is on the back end and depth.
JT 24g 64 pts
Marner 36g 94 pts
Mathews 68g 100 pts
Willy 42g 104 pts
That's the pace the big 4 are on. If wr look around the league at what 11 million dollars gets you on other teams, this just isn't it. Mathews is earning his money, Willy was until his contract was signed now he's fallen off a cliff, JT is playing like a 3C not a 1B, and Willy once again will not hit 100pts for that money.
What is another coach going to do here exactly? Make JT 5 years younger and Marner into a better player? Marner is a good player, but he isn't elite imo.
Looking at the D is even worse. Rielly is alone on an island. He's the only one producing from the back end at all, and Gio/ Brodie are almost unplayable. McCabe is what he is, but shouldn't be in there for 20+ minutes and Benoit is a fantastic 5-6 right now, but he isn't winning the Norris anytime soon.
What does another coach do here? I really don't see any difference.
Fire Keefe, but don't expect a cup with this roster no matter who they hire.
1.) 18 Jan 2024 16:35:40
The coach creates and implements systems. Their D zone coverage and penalty killing are brutal. So the players are either lousy or they’re not listening to the coaches, or both. Old saying is you can’t fire all the players so coach is first to go. I’d trade marner in a heartbeat but he won’t likely waive. I’d even let him walk into UFA when the time comes, just to recoup the cap space. You sign two very good players for the same money he’d want.
Keefe has to go, fair or not. Berube is probably the best option. Maybe Gallant.
2.) 18 Jan 2024 16:35:49
The blue line is the problem after Reilly, Benoit has been great for a bottom pairing guy. Bottom 6 guys have no identity and Samsonov pissed away a lot of points for the team. They'd be comfortably be in a playoff spot the trade deadline can't fix all the holes this team has and I'd rather they didn't trade away picks and prospects for rentals. Thus current team will be steamrolled in the 1st round.
3.) 18 Jan 2024 16:45:10
I think they need a coach that has a set off on him. Someone that’s willing to hold everyone accountable, equally. Shouldn’t matter the name on the jersey or how much you make. Right now, it doesn’t feel that way.
4.) 18 Jan 2024 17:15:55
I will rinse and repeat what I have said for probably going on two months. This isn't the year to go for it. We are looking at 1-2 years down the road we may have the team in place to go for it. I am still for firing Keefe. Bring in a guy with experience that can start to use this year to mold the team into how he wants it, Has to be a guy who likes heavy team play because we know that's what Tree would like to build.
5.) 18 Jan 2024 17:25:58
@CKPS I agree Keefe isn't the man for the job, I'm just pointing out that all the hate on Keefe is a bit unjustified.
I don't see a coach in the world that makes this D-corps look like anything more than it is. After Mo you have nothing.
After the big 4, they have nothing. JT isn't what he once was. His 5 on 5 numbers have been steadily declining and now he's in pace for 60 points.
What difference does a coach make?
6.) 18 Jan 2024 18:19:04
They need some more two way players and more rhd they have 3-4 forwards who are considered defensive players their pk sucks their pp isn’t much better there is some bright spots on this roster but it’s the same every year the blueline is sub par or below average and if the big guys aren’t producing they are not winning but they also take up all the ice time.
7.) 19 Jan 2024 01:46:04
If Keefe is fired then Treliving should be fired as well.
He’s the one who gave Keefe, Klingberg, Reaves, Bertuzzi, Domi, overpaid Kampf and allowed Schenn and Gustafsson to walk.
Treliving is the brilliant strategist who trade Lafferty for a 5th round pick instead of waiving Reaves.
Treliving’s waste of $20M in cap space condemned Keefe!
Treliving has had 8 months on the job and look at the state of the Leafs.
8.) 19 Jan 2024 12:45:48
Waterbuffalo
So letting two 3rd pair D-men, both in their 30's walk, is a massive issue? Have you not lobbied constantly that the Leafs need to stop signing older guys?
Treliving has made mistakes. Every GM does. He has also made some shrewd signings and moves. Let's say he signed Schenn and Gustafsson like you wanted. That means no Benoit who is basically Schenn but a lot younger and cheaper. Wouldn't Gustafsson have taken our "2nd best defenceman" Liljegren's spot. That is also $3.6M on two 30+ year old D-men. You say Leafs shouldn't go after Tanev because he is 34, but wanted Tree to re-sign Schenn, who is 34.
all of this is revisionist history. You look at guys having good seasons elsewhere and say Tree should have done this or that and since he didn't, he has a list of blunders.
Most that are saying fire Keefe, said the same thing before Treliving got here, so it isn't based off of this year alone.
9.) 19 Jan 2024 15:11:27
But I think WB has a point. Tre did mess up a lot of the pick ups and never improved the D. I don’t think Keefe is the right coach here but I do think Tre hand cuffed him with a worse D than last year and Brodie is pretty much unusable. Keefe was set up to fail this year but he should have adjusted to a more defensive style and running two lines into the ground is not the answer. I really believe Bert and Domi along with a few others would thrive under a new coach. Bert does not like Keefe, he is probably sick of getting yelled at for what Nylander does every shift.
10.) 19 Jan 2024 17:56:08
Clarky. I admitted Tree made mistakes, but not re-signing Schenn for 3X$2.75M and not re-signing Gustavsson was not one of the mistakes.
Klingberg was also signed for the D, but is injured. In the end, no harm no foul as he is out for the season. People seem to forget Klingberg was supposed to be part of it. Brodie was supposed to be better than he has been. Liljegren was supposed to take another step, he hasn't. This is not actually playing like the the D-core that it was envisioned to be.
Let's also not forget the he wasn't allowed to participate in the draft, which also means hard to make a deal at the draft, even if he wanted to, when you can't be there.
He got Matthews to sign for a modest raise, which is looking like a steal. That never gets talked about.
All the good signings he made never gets talked about. Benoit, Lagesson, Jones, Gregor.
He took Sammy to arbitration instead of giving into him for around $5N with term. Waterbuffalo wanted Samsonov re-signed and said why go after Hellebuyck when we have Samsonov.
Let's also not forget he had very little cap space and lots of holes to fill with no assets to use to get good players. Free agency was the only way.
I keep hearing how he should have got his guy or that because people see these guys doing well on other teams and making less than say Bertuzzi. No one knows if they even wanted to come here or would have done well here. It's all speculation.
That is why I said it's revisionist history. Should have because I now see what these other guys are doing and it seems better than what we have.
Dubas was here for years, so I feel he is fair to criticize. Tree has been here a few months under almost impossible circumstances and people want a miracle Stanley Cup contender built. I said in the off-season, I have no idea how we can build a good team with such little cap space and so few assets. People had unrealistic expectations is the problem. That and people flip flopping from what they said in the past and now trying to claim they know better when they said the opposite in the past.
11.) 19 Jan 2024 19:01:00
@RLF yes he made some good minor decisions but anything with any substance not so well. Taking Sammy to arbitration and $100,000 signing bonus to Jones are his highlights (Benoit as well but lucky) . We needed a #1 RHD and got Klingberg. Yes he got injured but Tre did nothing since. Year is now a waste. Willy signing represents everything the True Leaf fans didn’t want to happen. Over signing wingers with no heart and still don’t have depth or D.
LeafsLife's banter posts with other poster's replies to LeafsLife's banter posts
05 Feb 2025 03:30:39
When Mathews is out, Mitch looks better.
When Marner is out, Mathews looks better.
What else does management need to see? Stop putting them together on a line!
1.) 05 Feb 2025 16:04:08
I know most guy don't like this idea but I still want to see
Matthews with Knies and/ or Domi/ McMann and a 2nd line of Nylander-JT-Marner. Very difficult for the other coach to decide which line to try and shutdown with his top defensive pair.
2.) 05 Feb 2025 17:24:58
I'd be good with trying that top line. Bert-Mathews-Domi was a good line for awhile last season, might as well try the same.
3.) 05 Feb 2025 19:04:30
Domi just has no confidence right now but I also would like to see an extended look of
Knies Matthews domi
Nylander Tavares Marner
Robertson? Mcmann
4th line as you see fit. I think patches might be a good fit on the 4th alternating with Reeves.
I'm so sick of holmberg, was at the game last night and he is so out of position all the time, and failing both offensively and defensively.
4.) 05 Feb 2025 22:13:04
RLF I’m not sure why you want that line so bad? They put Marner and Nylander together with Matthews a bunch when JT was out and vice versa when Matthews was out and they haven’t put up a point. No warriors on the line, no contrast. Won’t even work in regular season, it’s definitely not gonna work in playoffs. Not sure why you wouldn’t want the 3 spread out across top 3 lines and compete for ice time and PP.
5.) 06 Feb 2025 02:40:36
Clarky. No offense, but that is complete garbage. Leafs have never tried those combinations a bunch of times and saying they have never produced a point the odd shift it has been tried is completely false.
They have used a loaded line for a shift after a penalty kill and they have produced. Was it every time, of course not, no line does.
There is no guarantee that putting Matthews, Marner and Nylander on three separate lines will create more offence or make the team more balanced or dangerous. Talented guys want and need icetime. Playing them all 16-18 mins a night isn't likely to equate to good production nor does it create hard matchups for the opposing coach. Which line gets the offensive zone starts the most? Which gets the most defensive starts? Etc etc.
01 Feb 2025 20:11:13
Anyone else watching these trades thinking the rental market is insane?
Seems like a lot for Ceci and Granlund as well as Petterson.
1.) 01 Feb 2025 22:38:58
Yes LL. Seems much higher this year than years past. Any half decent player gets you a 1st rd pick apparently.
2.) 02 Feb 2025 03:54:03
Like I said, I think the Leafs will look at a guy like Sissons. Has some term left and not a rental you only have to fit in this year.
3.) 02 Feb 2025 04:17:21
Looking like a sellers market.
But I do think the Pettersson (legit top 4D) deal was a pretty good hockey trade for both sides.
4.) 02 Feb 2025 12:49:25
What upgrade is Sissons over what they have currently?
5.) 02 Feb 2025 16:50:25
Why Sissons?
Right shot C
Can play 3C or move up or down the lineup
Plays with lots of energy, good work ethic and pace to his game
More offensive upside over a guy like Kampf, without giving up defensive prowess.
Signed for one more season instead of a rental
Plays with some grit
Good Pker and Faceoff guy
Lots of playoff experience where he has played games in the 3rd round 2X and finals once.
6.) 03 Feb 2025 01:58:17
I like Sissons as well. Maybe not as much as RLF, but he's a definite upgrade that hopefully doesn't cost to much.
7.) 03 Feb 2025 12:03:23
LL. It's not so much that I am a big Sissons fan, it's just a player I could see Toronto target. I am good with the Leafs getting him if they do though.
30 Jan 2025 18:25:35
Anyone have a theory about Mo? He's always been iffy in his own end, but he's a mess right now. I'd rather see Neimela get a shot than him at this point. This is the fastest deterioration I've ever seen from a player.
We've all known he needs a D parter for years, but even with Tanev he was bad.
1.) 30 Jan 2025 21:18:29
LL. I will say what I have said for a while. New wife, new baby, new priorities. I don't think hockey is Mo's top focus. I don't think his head is on focused on hockey.
2.) 31 Jan 2025 00:44:15
I get that RLF, but Rielly better start getting his head back into the game or else he won't be here much longer, regardless of his NMC.
It would be hard to trade him in season, but he would probably be one of Tre's first priorities to move in the off-season if things don't change.
3.) 31 Jan 2025 11:12:09
I have my theory but I feel I notice much more than the average man. For starters, he won’t pin guys in his own end. So many goals go in from Morgan losing a puck battle because he is playing slap stick instead of pinning the guy to the boards and killing the play while a teammate picks up the puck for the breakout.
2. His gap control is absolutely awful. Guys are allowed to walk in to almost the top of the circle before they rip it and Morgan is too far away to even get a stick on it. 3. He is looking offense first all the time. Looking at times to jump into the play instead of worrying what happens if the puck gets turned over. 4. Start wiring shots from the point in the offensive zone like your name is Myers. I know Mitch and Willy like to come up to the point to take shots because there is less chance of getting hit up by the blue line. But be selfish and stop deferring the puck to these guys. Morgan can be wide open with a great chance in the slot and he will pass off to Mitch in the corner because he is hollering for it. Those corrections there and Reilly could be one of the better D in the league. Just IMO.
4.) 31 Jan 2025 12:07:39
Tags. No argument here. I was just answering LL's question.
Clarky. I don't know if many would disagree with you about the quality of his play or that he has always had some warts. I think LL was referring to WHY such a big decline in play. Not so much of what is wrong with his game, but why all of a sudden is he much worse in almost all areas of his game. That's how I took it anyway.
5.) 02 Feb 2025 12:50:42
Wife
Baby
Money in the bank
Mo is set
Hockey is secondary.
05 Jan 2025 22:20:53
Kaliyev is on waivers. Definitely a guy I'd take a chance on if he makes it that far.
1.) 06 Jan 2025 17:56:14
Soft player even though he has size. I would pass.
2.) 07 Jan 2025 13:59:52
He has been out all season with a fractured collarbone. The problem is Leafs are at 23 man roster. Otherwise, I would have claimed him had the chance arose. If it didn't work, waive him.
01 Dec 2024 04:33:17
This was different.
As soon as that 4-2 goal went in I expected a complete collapse (and it was close), but the effort was still there to close out the game.
Yes, that old sinking feeling creeper into the team, but the difference a coach makes is palpable. They faught back and ended up with an empty netter. A year ago this would have been an OT win for TB 5-4.
1.) 01 Dec 2024 12:25:46
100%LL. Berube needs his praise for making this a playoff style team. That penalty that made it 4-3 was an absolute joke on OEL. It’s like the refs tried to make the game closer. But we are starting to see buyin from our superstars. Best Nylander and Marner have looked since they have been a Leaf!
2.) 01 Dec 2024 15:00:09
There is buy in and a lot of that is because of Berube. But without the right personnel to surround the stars, where they feel the need to play differently, it wouldn't matter.
IMO- It's time people starting finally giving Tree some love. He built in just over a year what Dubas couldn't do at all.
Look at his body of work - Tree fired Keefe and brought in Berube. He brought in Tanev, OEL, Stolarz, Dewar, Hakanpaa, Benoit, Domi, Paches, Lorentz, Myers etc. Also got a good return on Liljegren. He remade this roster in 1 year. The Woll signing might end up being a steal. Like McMann and Benoit's contracts.
Most figured Reaves contract wouldn't age well, but the signing was necessary at the time to start changing the culture of the team. Klingberg didn't work, but ultimately didn't hurt them either. No one is talking about how they miss Lafferty anymore. He made a lot of good 1 year signings last year, which set him up well for this season.
We now have 3 heavy, physical, (with two being very young) LW's in Knies, McMann and Grebenkin. Add to that Minten, Cowan, Steeves etc and all the new D depth, it is a remarkable turn around.
Tree deserves a ton of credit.
3.) 03 Dec 2024 04:34:13
@RLF I will make my judgement of Tre on nice I see what he does with this core 4. He has made some bad moves and ones that have worked out so far. But the big decisions will happen this offseason.
4.) 03 Dec 2024 13:39:18
Clarky. I am not denying that he has made some poor moves. All GM's do. If you look at what everyone complained about pre-Treliving, it was mostly. We all wanted this team to play a heavier, playoff style game. We wanted a bigger and better defence. We wanted a team that was tough to play against. We wanted better goaltending. We wanted Keefe gone and his style of play. Exactly what hasn't Tree delivered in only one year+ is my point?
We can all complain about Reaves, the Lafferty trade, Klingberg or that he hasn't made a big trade yet. How about the fact that he had no assets to trade for major help and still built the kind of team we have all asked for. That's impressive to me. I am saying credit where credit is due at this point in his tenure.
08 Feb 2025 01:59:07
It would take a lot for me to move Knies, and this might be it.
07 Feb 2025 03:16:04
I'd MTL ever has a bout of temporary insanity as an organization, I say take the offer and run.
06 Feb 2025 17:07:35
What's with all the crap Tre gets? It generally takes 3-5 years before a GM has the team he wanted.
05 Feb 2025 17:25:57
I have to believe Anderson commands more as top pairing RHD on a great contract. It's the hardest position to fill and even harder for that price.
03 Feb 2025 18:23:46
@Claeky you think Mo is bad defensively? Watch some D'Angelo. He's a complete mess. I have zero interest.
06 Feb 2025 03:04:06
@Clarky He's really flying under the radar for sure. He also hasn't had the benefit of an entire season with Mathews and Marner. He was in fact demoted at times, and even left off the team out of camp. Mcmann definitely has heart as well.
05 Feb 2025 17:24:58
I'd be good with trying that top line. Bert-Mathews-Domi was a good line for awhile last season, might as well try the same.
03 Feb 2025 01:58:17
I like Sissons as well. Maybe not as much as RLF, but he's a definite upgrade that hopefully doesn't cost to much.
29 Jan 2025 18:26:38
Have to agree with RLF on the injuries. JT (as aligned as he is at times), is still a solid 2C option. Not having a 3C hurts, but having no 2C is devastating. I'm surprised they're winning at all.
25 Jan 2025 14:42:20
If that's all Rantanen gets as a better player on a way better contract, I don't know what we can't expect foe Mitchy.