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22 Dec 2021 23:55:13
Tor 2xfirst, Dermott, Robertson

Yotes Chychrun

That's the stated price currently.

Would you do this?

I probably would if I'm Dubas. The system is so depleted right now that by the time MNM are up, JT, Brodie, Muzzin and Rielly are aging, I can't see any outcome beyond being the new Coyotes/ Sabres/ Wings for a few years.

This also means dumping a bit of salary but it should be manageable as it isn't a sizeable hit.


1.) 23 Dec 2021 02:48:25
Depleted is a bit much do the leafs have the big name prospects no but they do have quite a few quality prospects you said it yourself MNM are coming up soon so why would the leafs not try and eep drafting and developing.

2.) 23 Dec 2021 04:07:43
Don't like the idea of trading 2 1sts.

3.) 23 Dec 2021 12:46:21
I'd do it leafs 1sts are like early second round picks anyway.

4.) 23 Dec 2021 13:39:56
Not as it stands no. Not unless there were other moves on D planned to be made. For instance, if the Leafs were then able to move Sandin for a 1st and also move out Holl before next season, it starts to make sense. Sandin would have no chance at making the top 4 anymore, so might as well recoup an asset. Liljegren could hopefully be a solid enough 5/ 6 paired with a cheap vet, which makes Holl expendable. The two of them moved out opens up almost $3M in cap space and the Leafs have a great top 4.

5.) 23 Dec 2021 18:54:13
@LeafsLife. where did you here those pieces are the stated price? if that is correct then what is Dubas waiting for. is it means keeping Sandin i'd do it for sure. but there would have to be a lot of other trades to re-calibrate the D. Would we have to trade Muzzin in a case like this. can't see them having Rielly, Chychrun and Muzzin all on left side. still having Sandin would give us a great chip to trade with another team for a good RD to play on 2nd pair D.

6.) 23 Dec 2021 20:34:06
@Loxley Eliott Friedman reported yesterday that the totes want a young player, top end prospect and 2 firsts.

7.) 24 Dec 2021 14:08:03
@Loxley. I don't think Muzzin is going anywhere unless he wants to. That is why I said to look at moving Sandin and Holl. Not sure who plays right and left side, but there are only two more years of Muzzin and Brodie after this one. There are 3 more years of Chychrun and 8 of Rielly, so they become the anchors to build around in the future. Add in Liljegren, Dermott, Rubins, Niemela etc and it still looks pretty good bot h talent and cap wise, assuming some players keep progressing and we may acquire a proven D as well.
Sandin just makes the most sense to move because his return should be decent and Leafs would recover some of the assets lost to get Chychrun.
That said, I am not sure anyone offers what is being asked, so maybe it takes a bit less than this anyway. The ask is rarely met.

8.) 24 Dec 2021 15:10:33
@RLF You are probly right that Muzzin is not going anywhere. but it woud be the quick fix and quite frankly he always gets hurt. and we know he is not comfortable on RD. dunno about Chychrun and if he can play RD. as for Sandin i agree we would not need him if we got Chychrun. that said i look at LeafsLife proposed package and can't help but think Dermott won't cut it. i think they would want to start with Sandin, getting a slightly younger D to replace Chychrun.

9.) 24 Dec 2021 23:46:37
If that’s the ask the trade would have been done already
Lol as usual leafsloser.



28 Oct 2021 22:04:10
Tor 4th

Arizona Chucky

Really, what else is he worth? I liked his game last year well enough and he's making league minimum anyway.


1.) 29 Oct 2021 00:26:58
A 4th and Ritchie ;)

2.) 29 Oct 2021 03:04:08
@Randy lmao you really want Ritchie gone eh?

I don't mind Ritchie myself. I just don't think he's a top 6 forward. Never has been never will be.



17 Jul 2021 22:29:48
Leafs 1st+Liljigren

Habs Weber

If he never plays again then get him now. That's the new Gaborik contract. Give them whatever just don't let Tampa do this again!


1.) 18 Jul 2021 06:31:52
True story.



11 Jul 2021 03:09:20
Leafs Robertson, 1st, Dermott

Wings Bertuzzi

Wings won't be done this rebuild in time for Bertuzzi to make a real impact. I can see them exploring options on him.

As far as it goes from Dubas' point of view, losing Robertson hurts. but if your looking at winning now Bertuzzi is exactly what replaces Hyman.

Dermott is still enough I'm sure Detroit has interest and the first is because Yzerman is much smarter and better at his job. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Dubas pay slightly more after the Kadri trade.


1.) 11 Jul 2021 11:40:21
And you have just turned yourself into Dubas by proposing this over-pay! You said it yourself, don't be angry with me!

2.) 11 Jul 2021 14:25:34
And Dubas is fired the next day.

3.) 11 Jul 2021 21:02:58
If Dubas wasn't fired for some of the contracts he handed out, the Kadri trade and not getting out of the first round in his 3 year tenure, why would this deal be the final straw?
I think it is too much for Bertuzzi, but Dubas seems to be able to make lots of mistakes and not get fired.

4.) 12 Jul 2021 00:30:20
@Sears when I post trades I try and out myself into a Dubas frame of mind a lot of the time. It isn't so much what I think should be done as it is what I think will be done.

It comes off as an overpay (which I agree) after his surgery but he's still the type of player needed. Dubas knows this. This is the type of trade we see before September.

5.) 12 Jul 2021 02:19:34
I have read some questionable trades on this site but this won takes the crown!

6.) 12 Jul 2021 06:59:41
@RLF I think he probably makes a trade very close to this one and isn't fired unless the playoffs are missed. I'm not sure how the guy has the resilience he does but he does.

@everyone else.

If I posted the Kadri trade for Barrie many of the old timers (HL, JDB, etc) would have called me insane. It still happened though didn't it?

Call this a prediction. Word is Dubas wants Bertuzzi. Yzerman is a lot like Sakic. He doesn't make trades unless they favour him (for the most part) . Both are hall of fame players turned GM.

Be ready for a brutal trade or signing in the coming months. Desperate men do desperate things.



17 Jun 2021 12:18:48
For anyone that hasn't seen it, report has it Hyman is all but out the door. He will be receiving offerers of 6.5+.

Wish you the best Zach. Hope you get a ring one day.


1.) 17 Jun 2021 13:19:20
It sucks but the leafs can’t spend that on a guy with bad knees plus there’s is ufas that can fill the void.

2.) 17 Jun 2021 13:56:10
If Zach is gone, how bad does the miss on Bennett look now?
Bennett could have been our 2C with Willy (who he would protect as well) and Tavares move to the wing with Matthews and Marner. He also wouldn't have broke the bank to keep.

3.) 17 Jun 2021 16:18:58
If zacks going to sign here it’s going to look like 8 years by 4-4-4.5m.

4.) 17 Jun 2021 16:28:26
@Leafsguy multiple reports say he's gone. EDM probably offers 6+ for 5-6 years.

@RLF oh man that would be an unreal top 6. That's a super line with a great line right behind it.

I was actually thinking about Bennett as well. He plays the same style (better or worse is subjective) as Hyman. Your missing a work horse grinder in the top 6.

He also only cost 2.25 for anyone keeping count. So good luck finding that for that price again Dubas.

5.) 17 Jun 2021 17:06:29
@LL. It would have been an awesome top 6. You have the super line to match up against Boston's super line. Would suit JT better as he ages to move to the wing. I would even consider putting Mikheyev on the left with Bennett and Nylander. Let Willy control the puck and the other two retrieve it and go to the net. Mikheyev may even start scoring if playing with Willy and Bennett. Bennett will likely be in the $4M range to re-sign on a decent term (3-5 years) . Very manageable as a 2C.

So, we have a few non-moves by Dubas that still haunt me that would have made the team better. Our homegrown stars are on big contracts with too short of term. The cupboards look pretty bare in the system for quality bottom 6 players with some size that can play or anyone with any grit (the few we had, he traded them away) . Yet to some, Dubas has done a great job.




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20 Jan 2022 21:50:56

I like the idea of having Anderson. Should an injury happen you can still run with Old man Anderson and Will instead of another Hutch year.




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20 Jan 2022 20:30:04
I hate moving Nylander right now. I think it send a bad message to the team. That said, this is a really original and solid prop. Well done.




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20 Jan 2022 18:00:35
@Mackin he has size, can't defend to save his life (think Barrie) and can't score like he was expected too.




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20 Jan 2022 17:59:56
They want more than that garbage. He plays 30+/ night some nights.




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20 Jan 2022 03:47:38
When Risto becomes a top 4 blueliner I'll think about it.





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