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17 Jul 2021 22:29:48
Leafs 1st+Liljigren

Habs Weber

If he never plays again then get him now. That's the new Gaborik contract. Give them whatever just don't let Tampa do this again!


1.) 18 Jul 2021 06:31:52
True story.



11 Jul 2021 03:09:20
Leafs Robertson, 1st, Dermott

Wings Bertuzzi

Wings won't be done this rebuild in time for Bertuzzi to make a real impact. I can see them exploring options on him.

As far as it goes from Dubas' point of view, losing Robertson hurts. but if your looking at winning now Bertuzzi is exactly what replaces Hyman.

Dermott is still enough I'm sure Detroit has interest and the first is because Yzerman is much smarter and better at his job. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Dubas pay slightly more after the Kadri trade.


1.) 11 Jul 2021 11:40:21
And you have just turned yourself into Dubas by proposing this over-pay! You said it yourself, don't be angry with me!

2.) 11 Jul 2021 14:25:34
And Dubas is fired the next day.

3.) 11 Jul 2021 21:02:58
If Dubas wasn't fired for some of the contracts he handed out, the Kadri trade and not getting out of the first round in his 3 year tenure, why would this deal be the final straw?
I think it is too much for Bertuzzi, but Dubas seems to be able to make lots of mistakes and not get fired.

4.) 12 Jul 2021 00:30:20
@Sears when I post trades I try and out myself into a Dubas frame of mind a lot of the time. It isn't so much what I think should be done as it is what I think will be done.

It comes off as an overpay (which I agree) after his surgery but he's still the type of player needed. Dubas knows this. This is the type of trade we see before September.

5.) 12 Jul 2021 02:19:34
I have read some questionable trades on this site but this won takes the crown!

6.) 12 Jul 2021 06:59:41
@RLF I think he probably makes a trade very close to this one and isn't fired unless the playoffs are missed. I'm not sure how the guy has the resilience he does but he does.

@everyone else.

If I posted the Kadri trade for Barrie many of the old timers (HL, JDB, etc) would have called me insane. It still happened though didn't it?

Call this a prediction. Word is Dubas wants Bertuzzi. Yzerman is a lot like Sakic. He doesn't make trades unless they favour him (for the most part) . Both are hall of fame players turned GM.

Be ready for a brutal trade or signing in the coming months. Desperate men do desperate things.



17 Jun 2021 12:18:48
For anyone that hasn't seen it, report has it Hyman is all but out the door. He will be receiving offerers of 6.5+.

Wish you the best Zach. Hope you get a ring one day.


1.) 17 Jun 2021 13:19:20
It sucks but the leafs can’t spend that on a guy with bad knees plus there’s is ufas that can fill the void.

2.) 17 Jun 2021 13:56:10
If Zach is gone, how bad does the miss on Bennett look now?
Bennett could have been our 2C with Willy (who he would protect as well) and Tavares move to the wing with Matthews and Marner. He also wouldn't have broke the bank to keep.

3.) 17 Jun 2021 16:18:58
If zacks going to sign here it’s going to look like 8 years by 4-4-4.5m.

4.) 17 Jun 2021 16:28:26
@Leafsguy multiple reports say he's gone. EDM probably offers 6+ for 5-6 years.

@RLF oh man that would be an unreal top 6. That's a super line with a great line right behind it.

I was actually thinking about Bennett as well. He plays the same style (better or worse is subjective) as Hyman. Your missing a work horse grinder in the top 6.

He also only cost 2.25 for anyone keeping count. So good luck finding that for that price again Dubas.

5.) 17 Jun 2021 17:06:29
@LL. It would have been an awesome top 6. You have the super line to match up against Boston's super line. Would suit JT better as he ages to move to the wing. I would even consider putting Mikheyev on the left with Bennett and Nylander. Let Willy control the puck and the other two retrieve it and go to the net. Mikheyev may even start scoring if playing with Willy and Bennett. Bennett will likely be in the $4M range to re-sign on a decent term (3-5 years) . Very manageable as a 2C.

So, we have a few non-moves by Dubas that still haunt me that would have made the team better. Our homegrown stars are on big contracts with too short of term. The cupboards look pretty bare in the system for quality bottom 6 players with some size that can play or anyone with any grit (the few we had, he traded them away) . Yet to some, Dubas has done a great job.



15 Jun 2021 00:39:47
Tor Rielly, Liljigren, Hallander, 2 firsts, 2 seconds

Buf Eichel

Not a trade I would like to see but one that I can see Dubas making. Kerfoot would get picked in the expansion draft and Hyman+Freddy walk.

Dubas then fills the entire bottom 6 with league minimum.

Robertson Mathews Marner
Tavares Eichel Nylander
Robertson Engvall Brooks
Muzzin Brodie
Dermott Holl

Sandin plays PP1 as he did in the playoffs.

Dubas (aka Tanner) seem to believe that nothing matters other than having elite players.

A few insiders say they believe Dubas will make a big move. What could be bigger?


1.) 15 Jun 2021 03:44:38
Why would buffalo trade their best player. For 1 year of riley.
If they trade eichel its to rebuild.
Also huge overpaymemt, considering he's injured
2 firsts and 2 seconds too much.
Maybe 1 each, tops.

Trading arguably our best D and future is tough for eichel.

2.) 15 Jun 2021 04:03:43
Horrible. Nobody wants the clown Jack Eichel. Jack Eichel belongs in a circus, not in the NHL.

3.) 15 Jun 2021 05:30:34
Not disagreeing. This is the kind of move I expect though.

Dubas said he isn't moving the core 4 and Rielly isn't needed on the PP. Rielly also isn't a Dubas guy. If he was he gets captain.

Dubas tried gritty this year. He will revert to all skill, top heavy, now. That's his vision of winning.

Probably is an overpay but to be honest I have no comparables for this one. Eichel is a 40/ 100 top line centre. He's also coming off a couple down years and has some health concerns. Who knows what teams like the Rangers may pay?

@Nylander what's your issue with Eichel? He really isn't all that bad. He's tired of losing, he's tired of a horrible managed team, he's tired of never seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Mcdavid is in the same spot except his team is better managed now.

Also, Rielly is more there for cap purposes. He traded for Muzzin. He likes Brodie. He isn't moving the core 4. Nothing else to move.

Dubas can't just run this back as is. He knows he needs to do something.

4.) 15 Jun 2021 13:41:10
If Dubas chases another $10M player, he should be fired for even thinking it before he does something that would be stupid.

5.) 15 Jun 2021 14:35:10
I think this could be Dubas and Shannahan's last year in TO if the Leafs have another deflating 1st rd playoff in 2022?

On a side note, the Rangers, in my opinion, would love to have a Marner on their team the return? . I like Gallant going to the Rangers; good move.
Go Leafs!



09 Jun 2021 09:23:45
It makes me laugh how things age. I posted this trade when I first joined this site. At that point I was berated for it.

A year later, more people were on board but still some (MPH) thought it was asanine.

Tor Marner

Ott Chabot

How's that looking right about now?

Send have been a joke for awhile now but man have they got some value players.


1.) 09 Jun 2021 12:01:45
I mean depends what they do with Reilly.

2.) 09 Jun 2021 12:40:26
Lots of times people get berated for trades or told they are ridiculous only for it later to not look so bad or even good. Chabot makes $8M, pretty much what Rielly will want and may get. We take on $8M anywhere and Marner probably has to go.
As T33 said, it would not be a bad deal depending on what happens with the rest of the D.




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30 Jul 2021 07:34:06
I would do that Ott deal. It's really not hard to see how things go shortly after. You trade Rielly, JT becomes your 1C and your team now has more cap space, a better D core and more balanced roster. I also think Ott declines though.




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30 Jul 2021 07:32:20
Whenever someone wants Max Domi they immediately lose me.

Domi left MTL because he's a brutal centre but doesn't actually understand that.

He's also a goof. He's really not the guy you want/ need.




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30 Jul 2021 04:37:57
Francis drafted with the purpose of keeping cap space open. I don't think he's giving us cap space for them.

If he valued Kerfoot over Mcann or Dermott over both he would have picked one of the two.




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30 Jul 2021 02:43:53
Sandin is to Dubas what Banana's are to chimpanzee. I can't even begin to see a trade unless it's Sandin for Makar.




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30 Jul 2021 02:41:32
I wouldn't trade Mikheyev. He's going to be an important PK guy without Hyman.

I like going after Debrusk as well though. He's not my dream addition but at this point it's like I tell my kids; you get what you get and you don't get upset.





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