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05 Dec 2023 22:54:56
Tor Robertson
Oilers Broberg
Two struggling prospects, roughly the same age and salary. Both need a change.
1.) 06 Dec 2023 02:49:19
I like it!
2.) 06 Dec 2023 11:36:48
Leafs might need to add a bit, but I like the thought.
3.) 06 Dec 2023 14:30:20
I don't think the leafs ass, broberg was picked higher but Robertson is still with the big club.
4.) 06 Dec 2023 15:41:07
I figured there would be a Broberg prop pretty quick after he asked for a trade. Edmonton can't really take on any cap, so cap in/ out is necessary. I would say value of the prop is reasonable. Do they want a possible young scorer in return?
What about something like Samsonov for Foegele and Broberg?
5.) 06 Dec 2023 17:22:44
@RLF that would be even better for me.
10 Nov 2023 05:18:36
Tor Samsonov, 2nd
SJ Blackwood
Been thinking about this one for a bit now. I always thought Blackwood was a good goalie who just needed a chance to find his footing. He's been unreal on one of the worst teams ever assembled. I'd take the gamble.
1.) 10 Nov 2023 12:09:27
@LL I would definitely do this, but Leafs don't have a 2nd round pick till 2027.
2.) 10 Nov 2023 16:17:26
@Tags completely forgot about all the seconds being traded. Good call Tags.
3.) 11 Nov 2023 04:04:02
Leafs could have had Blackwood for nothing more than his contract!
4.) 12 Nov 2023 09:19:21
@LeafsLife
Your exactly right. samsonov and a 2nd is a bit rich.
05 Nov 2023 05:32:25
Leafs: Nylander, Robertson, 1st
Flyers: Konecny
Call it an overpay all you want, I would give up almost anyone to see a top 6, skilled forward, willing to fight, throw hits, and show some heart.
Konecny reminds me too much of Dougie. He needs to be a Leafs. Tiny guy (by NHL standards), with bite, and skill.
1.) 05 Nov 2023 06:10:03
@LL Not gonna argue with you. anytime Konecny is in a trade i am all for it. but like in my deal i'd also try to add Frost and Walker is a pretty good 2 way D this year. i'd try to add them. see if we can move out Kampf. Konecny already has 9 goals and 3 assists on a bad team.
2.) 05 Nov 2023 13:24:35
Far far too much LL.
Konecny is a decent target I agree but I could never support that package and I can’t believe this is coming from you!
3.) 05 Nov 2023 13:37:53
Robertson and the first gets konecny.
4.) 05 Nov 2023 15:45:14
@Rsears maybe it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction to this team, but I'd pay almost anything to get either of the Tkatchuk's or Konecny.
@Loxley I like Frost as a target as well. Now my annoyance has died down, this is probably an overpay. Throw in those two as well lol.
5.) 05 Nov 2023 19:43:45
Understand LL knee jerk reactions.
I’d possibly be interested in a blockbuster with Philly that included Konecny.
6.) 05 Nov 2023 20:51:34
@LL. I just could not bare to tell ya it was a slight overpay. but what can I say. whenever Konecny is mentioned can't help but support it.
7.) 06 Nov 2023 07:45:17
Shake my head.
Nylander has arguably been Leafs best player through the first 12 games.
I would much rather send Flyers Marner for Konecny.
Forget about the 1st round pick.
That is just silly!
8.) 06 Nov 2023 13:30:36
I think this is a massive overpay by the Leafs. At this point, it should be Nylander for Konecny+ imo.
9.) 06 Nov 2023 15:16:27
@Waterbuffalo. unfortunately we can't trade Marner. he has a no movement or no trade clause.
30 Jun 2023 04:49:49
Tor Marner
Phi Konecny
I know, everyone will call it an overpayment.
Konecny reminds me more of Dougie than anyone I have watched since the 90s. He's a small, skilled player, with bite to his game.
Ryan Reaves and Auston Watson are the runours and I don't get it. This isn't the goon Era anymore. You need top 6/ top 4 that refuse to be bullied.
Mackinnon, Kucherov, Killorn, Point, Stamkos. Kadri, the entirety of the VGK team (barring their mvp), Tkatchuk, this list could be 10 paragraphs.
Toughness isn't a bottom 6 goon. It's a mental state. You can have Nylander and Marner in Nashville or Boston, but not a whole team of them
I'd also say, Taylor Hall was traded for nothing because of cap space. Marner has almost zero value because of his contract right now, unless you take something back.
1.) 30 Jun 2023 10:01:22
Yes, big over payment. Flyers add for sure. And please don’t compare Taylor Hall to Marner in a trade situation, or any other.
2.) 30 Jun 2023 11:47:28
I’d say why not willy one for one if you’re looking at how soft a player is willy is the softest out of all of them the only upside to moving marner is creating cap space but they also for some reason haven’t bought out murray.
3.) 30 Jun 2023 12:15:07
Change it to willie for konecny and I’m with you.
4.) 30 Jun 2023 14:20:15
Yes. Nylander would work.
5.) 30 Jun 2023 14:30:50
@LL. I'm with ya dude. then we can take the extra cap and go get Graves and Comtois (if ducks don't qualify him)
6.) 30 Jun 2023 22:02:14
Loxley gets it! Konecny replaces marner and with the cap savings you can add to the defence!
7.) 01 Jul 2023 04:59:36
To Flyers: Marner
To Leafs: Konecny and Lawton.
14 Jun 2023 01:52:19
Since we're all here waiting; what is Mathews' next contract (should he sign one and should they resign him at the number/ term?
I'm thinking Mathews is asking for a 3 year old deal, close to 14 million. If at some point he refuses to sign a long term deal or take less money, I don't think you can keep him. You have to move the guy.
At 3-4 years and 13-14 million (hypothetically) I move him for whatever I can. After that deal he's going to want an 8 year deal for 16+ to finish his career.
1.) 14 Jun 2023 03:58:31
Move Matthews as long as there is a center like #2 pick Adam Fantilli or #3 pick Leo Carlsson coming back.
Trading Matthews for a winger or defenseman Leafs the Leafs shorthanded at one of the three premium positions in hockey, #1 center, #1 defenseman, #1 goaltender.
Since the Leafs do not have a #1 defenseman or a #1 goaltender, leaving themselves without a #1 center takes them out of consideration as a Cup contender.
2.) 14 Jun 2023 04:05:11
Not sure why this is on this side, but;
You aren't getting Fantili.
You also didn't answer anything of what I asked lol.
3.) 14 Jun 2023 09:53:07
I think treliving and new management will try and sit Matthews down and try and help him understand what taking less than expected will do for him. that being said I’m saying 5 years @12.8m aav.
4.) 14 Jun 2023 14:09:05
@Goat I would love Matthews to sign that deal, but highly doubt it.
I believe he signs for $13.34M/ 4 years. And yes, I would sign him at that price if I was Treliving.
@LeafsLife Who cares what Matthews will want on his next deal at this point. Let's sign him for his prime years and then worry about his next contract. Leafs don't have to re-sign him again after this contract is done. Hopefully they'll trade him at that point if he wants too much money.
5.) 14 Jun 2023 14:43:38
I am with Goat here. 4-5 years between $12.5-$13M.
It is not that Matthews isn't worth Fantilli, it is that it makes no sense for Ana to trade Fantilli for Matthews because they are rebuilding. Columbus at #3 may make sense, but Leafs have to take back significant cap. Then I think Washington at 8 is next and from there back is the highest pick you get.
6.) 15 Jun 2023 01:23:20
Matthews will sign for either 12.75x 3 13.5x4 or 14x5
Longer the deal higher the average.
They say the cap will go up alot within 3 years so I'd bet he goes with a 3 year deal.
7.) 15 Jun 2023 01:37:14
RLF
My thought is that Anaheim has been rebuilding for years and after all this time, needs to take a step forward and make the playoffs.
Matthews could do that for them and he is still only 25.
Anaheim has one of the top 6 or 7 prospect pools in the league and they would only be losing Mintyukov out of the existing pool.
I’m not saying Anaheim would do this but I would certainly be asking.
We don’t know Verbeeks thoughts on this nor the sense of urgency that the Ducks ownership might feel to make the playoffs?
8.) 15 Jun 2023 02:35:31
@WB49. I think the actual rebuild just started recently when they started trading vets like Manson and Rakell. I think they tried to stay competitive and finally started a real rebuild end of 20/ 21. If Matthews won't re-sign, their rebuild is badly impacted with losing Fantilli and whomever else was in the deal that they lose.
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08 Dec 2023 20:46:43
Anyone else think Bortuzzo for that price would have been a great add?
Even if he is aging, he's paid basically nothing and expires after this year.
1.) 09 Dec 2023 00:07:16
Was thinking the same thing.
At first was thinking a bigger trade on Isles blueline was coming didn't realize half their backend was hurt too. Was kinda hoping for a Dobson or Pulock trade to the leafs, wishful thinking lol.
2.) 09 Dec 2023 02:51:04
@Jmaxx lol. I would havewet myself if Dobson became a Leaf, I just don't see it.
30 Nov 2023 23:27:05
Zadorov went for a 3rd and 5th, to a team in division?
Tree must have been willing to give up at least that much.
Really surprised by that trade.
1.) 01 Dec 2023 04:15:32
@LL seems like a steal for Vancouver. I'm not huge on Zadorov, but for that price I would have liked the Leafs to get him.
I'm thinking that the Leafs hands may still be tied until they get confirmation on Klingberg?
2.) 01 Dec 2023 04:52:14
@Tags that's all I could think of as well. Maybe he wanted retention and Conroy said no.
I'm not super high on Zadorov either. He's a bottom pairing D that can barely play top 4 if need be, but for that price I would have been elated.
3.) 01 Dec 2023 09:50:44
To me it seems like conroy stiff armed tree because if that was the price I’m sure he would be a leaf. But I also think klingberg kinda screwed the leafs because they can’t do anything until he lets the leafs know what he’s doing with his injury…. All in all I think there’s been all this hype around the flames and leafs and I don’t think tree gets any of them and we end up with lybushkin.
4.) 01 Dec 2023 12:49:19
For that price, you would assume Tree would beat it. No definite on Klingberg I am sure had a lot to do with it. Tree may have said can you hold off until I have confirmation on Klingebrg and Conroy said no because injuries can happen.
Also, like I said before, maybe Tree doesn't see this as the year he would spend assets on rentals. Maybe he wants guys with term. If he has Zadorov in his sights, he may just wait until free agency next summer and it costs him no assets.
30 Nov 2023 23:24:02
Have we all noticed the complete lack of care Mathews is displaying lately? Reminding me a lot of the end of Babs reign. Kaskisuo got his first shot in net and the entire team decided they'd rather sit in the dressing room than take the ice and waited for the game to end. Babs got angrier, the team cared less.
We're now starting to see some serious frustration from Keefe. The bench minors must have his blood pressure up alone. It's just lazy most of the time from everyone.
I know the team is winning, and most of us agree Keefe needs to go, but it looks like this season is lost if playoffs start with Sheldon behind the bench.
1.) 01 Dec 2023 12:50:14
He lacks jump. Is he injured again?
30 Nov 2023 05:29:06
Short post, but nobody seems to be twljing about it.
Mo has been a unti since the playoffs.
He's been my favourite Leaf for over a decade, and the only one (currently on the team), I have a jersey for, but he's just been a monster.
He's out there for 30 minutes, moves the puck, skates like a champ, and hasn't had many defensive blunders. Hats off to my man.
1.) 30 Nov 2023 11:56:36
Rielly has been a pillar back there.
2.) 30 Nov 2023 14:06:12
That’s the problem. When you’re playing well, no one talks about ya. rubbish the bed and Leaf fans/ media will ruin your confidence. Lol but he has been a staple. I just hope they get him a good RD to play with so he can rush like he was in playoffs. #IstillmissSchenn.
29 Nov 2023 03:31:56
Gotta give it to Woll, kid looked great.
Mathews looks so disinterested out there right now, I'd consider putting him on the 4th line.
1.) 29 Nov 2023 13:11:21
He stole one. Could have been out of hand after the 1st. The one thing I notice about Woll that suggest he can be a #1 and he does better than many goalies already in the NHL is his lateral movement while in the butterfly. He almost never seems to over commit.
No lunges for the puck. Few spectacular saves needed because he is always within the blue paint and rarely gets too far left or right. Pucks stick to him. Reminds me of Belfour in a way. Belfour made it look simple. No exaggerated leg kicks or dives across the net. When Woll is on his game, he would be very easy to play in front of.
Sammy relies more on reflexes, so the saves look more dramatic, but then he is out of position for the next shot and diving all over the place.
Just my take of course.
2.) 29 Nov 2023 14:38:40
Yes, Woll stole that game for the Leafs in the first and then again in OT and the shoot-out (which I hate BTW) .
RLF I have used the same comparable to Belfour when talking with my buddy's. Positional sound, making saves look routine and always set for the next one. Very quiet in his net, love his style!
3.) 29 Nov 2023 19:23:26
Woll looks great. Just needs someone to push him. Wonder if Jones would be better than Sammy? Or should we make a trade for a cheap experienced goalie to split games with Woll. It’s tough to watch at least one softy go in on Sammy every game (sometimes multiple)
4.) 30 Nov 2023 01:15:40
@Clwrky at least 5 teams want a goalie right now. I'd say let Sammy stay at backup.
5.) 01 Dec 2023 16:27:22
I'd consider sending Sammy to Edmonton for Campbell and a kings ransom.
11 Dec 2023 05:48:23
@MPH how can Dallas say no? Lilly puts Makar to shame. Might be able to trade Lilly for Mcjesus.
09 Dec 2023 18:43:22
How will a first be a top 15 pick? Missing the playoffs? Lol.
09 Dec 2023 00:31:41
I probably don't give up Knies. Any other prospect I'm good with, just not him.
08 Dec 2023 20:42:52
@Stryker he's also very young for a defenceman. I'm not surprised he was sent down.
08 Dec 2023 17:04:18
I agree ThatGuy. I love WiFi's game.
10 Dec 2023 22:56:40
@RLF wasn't a Brodie buyout 0$ this year and 5m next?
09 Dec 2023 19:24:59
I don't understand why buy him out. Someone would still pay a 2nd minimum for a top 4 RHD (plays right anyway)
09 Dec 2023 18:05:23
I really don't understand trading Brodie. If anything, you keep brodie and add someone else in the top 4.
09 Dec 2023 02:51:04
@Jmaxx lol. I would havewet myself if Dobson became a Leaf, I just don't see it.
09 Dec 2023 00:33:14
@Loxley RLF was a sage with the Ingeam and Bennett props. We aren't getting a do over on either one now lol. Ingram has been a stud this year.