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15 Jul 2022 15:08:48
Tor Nylander

Flyers Provorov+1st (top 3 protected)

Chuck Fletcher Seems to have gone insane. Let's see if he's willing to play the chance game.


1.) 15 Jul 2022 16:35:00
Forgot the follow up, this is for everyone wanting to move Muzzin. You can trade him at will then.



12 Jul 2022 01:28:50
Murray a third and a 7th with only 25% retained. I'm at a real loss here.

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm not sure how Matt Murray at 4.68 is what Dubas wanted.

If Soup was asking 5x5 and Murray is 2 years at 4.68, I still resign Soup.

This could end up being a massive failure on Dubas' part. He just got rid of Mrazek (played 12 games for the canes) for a guy that played 20 games last year. Deja Vu anyone?


1.) 12 Jul 2022 02:16:21
Sink or swim at this point.

2.) 12 Jul 2022 08:15:12
If the leafs just paid a first to rid themselves of mrazek that should of beeen the standard for dubas I think Dorian just fleeced dubas they just cleared 4.68 mil and all it cost was a third next year and a 7th the year after I hope this works but I don’t feel great about this one.

3.) 12 Jul 2022 11:34:19
Hope he makes another move for a goalie
Samsonov holtby. ?
Not sure if either helps….

4.) 12 Jul 2022 13:21:29
The leafs need a backup that can play 30-40 games next year and Idk if there’s one out there.

5.) 12 Jul 2022 13:42:06
It would seem Dubas poorly played this negotiation by giving an early low-ball offer.

It’s done so what are next steps other than daily prayers that Murray gets back to his Penguin level.

I still strongly believe Muzzin is a big part of the solution. Get whatever you can in return to free up space.

There are many interesting UFAs now that teams have decide on who to qualify.

Panning this gold is better than the draft.

I think there are many good choices and the teams who have space will get the gold.

6.) 12 Jul 2022 20:18:46
@Rsears that's basically what I'm thinking as well. Dubas thought Soup would accept a low-ball offer, EDM is trying to make the Edmonton Maple Leafs with everyone Dubas wants to low-ball.

Without Muzzin I just don't see how the D-corps shapes out.


That D-corps may actually work, if they weren't in front of Matt Murray.

I also think everyone has forgotten, boosh isn't here anymore. He needs to be replaced unless Holl is going to be a top 4 defenseman which spells trouble.



13 Jun 2022 06:32:25
Tor Nylander

Van Miller

Vancouver can make a choice, either resign Nylander or flip him as a rental plus. Dubas' gets to go all in with the exact player that is needed right now.

JT is in a contract year and will be doing everything he can to make bank on his last payday.

Top 6 has Tavares playing wing.

Bunting Mathews Marner
(Anyone) Miller JT

Maybe I'm a little intoxicated, but that looks like a win to me.


1.) 13 Jun 2022 11:15:47
@LL. Are you trying to say this is the first time you posted while intoxicated? I'm not buying that. lol
It seems like a solid deal for both teams as Van should be able to absorb the extra cap hit of Nylander and Leafs could use the extra $1.7M in cap space.

2.) 13 Jun 2022 18:00:27
You can’t be a little intoxicated…
I like the deal.

3.) 13 Jun 2022 22:24:01
So it's close but I think Vancouver adds like a 4th because of the extra year.

4.) 14 Jun 2022 09:06:43
They won't send nylander, sounding more and more like JT is going to go, no move clause would just make it a little harder.

5.) 14 Jun 2022 09:07:58
Think a lil, man's almost 40 making 11 mil or some high end contract while gio just took a 800k contract.

6.) 14 Jun 2022 09:17:41
Ignore the almost 40 part
But send him to LA, Edmonton, or Philly. Open up a lot of cap, and resign and sign what you need.



07 May 2022 20:54:51
Tor Nylander

NJ 1st (depending on where the pick is, NJ adds)

They clearly want to go for it and have money coming off the books. Let them take Nylander and sign someone else.


1.) 09 May 2022 13:09:23
Makes sense to me. I think it would to Jersey as well. They didn't sign Hamilton to all that money to continue a rebuild. They want to compete now.
I also wouldn't mind a return of McLeod, Foote, Okhotyuk. Lots of options if Mikheyev and Engvall resign. Put Tavares with (Kerfoot/ Engvall/ Mikheyev/ McLeod) . Third line of Kampf with the other two that is not on Mikheyev's line. If Foote is ready for the NHL, start him on the 4th line with some PP net front added in. Okhotyuk is realistically about a year away and only 21, so no need to rush him.

2.) 09 May 2022 13:51:23
other two not on Tavares line I meant.

3.) 09 May 2022 22:40:35
Yes. NJ is the destination.
1st2022. 2nd 2023. Nolan Foote

Wait …. guess i am getting greedy ….

4.) 10 May 2022 00:00:02
@MPH if anything, might be able to send them Mrazek as well. Was debating putting that in.

5.) 10 May 2022 00:00:55
@RLF I would fine with that return as well. I'm think the first because Jersey might end up with a 4-6 pick. That's a great way to get some young talent for the future.



17 Mar 2022 00:30:48
Bargain bin shopping time since Dubas won't use Muzzin's LTIR.

Tor 4th

CBJ Sean Kuraly

High energy guy. Always gives his entire effort even if he doesn't score. Could do worse for a 4th line centre.


1.) 17 Mar 2022 11:55:31
I think Rsears likes him as well. Big body that plays physical, Pk's, solid defensively and can chip in some offence and even move up your lineup some if necessary. The $2.5M cap hit for a guy on your 4th line is steep though especially for 3 more seasons. He has a full NTC for this season as well. Unless you move out a guy like Kerfoot in the deal, I don't think he is a fit.

2.) 17 Mar 2022 20:40:38
2 million in current cap space so bury someone and you're fine.

I don't think Dubas is getting anyone on defence we will be happy about. If Chariot is 1st, prospect, 4th then someone like Severson is Robertson, 1st, 2nd.

3.) 17 Mar 2022 22:05:37
@LL you have to fit him in for 3 more years is the problem if you feel he is a 4th liner. Ritchie at $2.5M on the 4th line was fine, but we all complained you can't have a guy making $2.5M on the 4th line and rightfully so imo.

4.) 18 Mar 2022 01:28:39
I like the player but can’t see how Leafs can possibly fit his contract into the mess Dubas has made of their finances.




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15 Aug 2022 09:17:26
Can anyone tell me what the deal with Larsson is right now? Everyone seems obsessed with the guy. Writers, journalists, tv hosts, people on this site, etc.

Am I missing something? He's never been a game changing defenceman, but he's being portrayed as a top pairing RHD on the same level as Makar.


1.) 16 Aug 2022 10:05:47
I think it has more to do with him being on a bad team than anything which would make him available and Seattle has the cap space to eat money.

2.) 16 Aug 2022 18:17:34
Larsson is solid and the contract reasonable, so there is a lot to like about acquiring him. Why the major hype? I don't know either. He has a full No trade. Seattle likely will ask a big return and they don't have a lot of cap space with only 6 D on the roster as is. So they can't really take on much money.

There are others to target that are more suitable. imo.

3.) 16 Aug 2022 23:12:57
@RLF that's where I'm at as well. Even if he waives, they ask for a monster return that he probably isn't worth.



31 Jul 2022 03:54:32
I have to ask this question (hard to follow RLF and Rsearss lol)

What's the deal with Muzzin? Why does everyone want him gone so badly without a replacement?


Murray Samsonov is the entire back half of the ice people think wins a cup? It just isn't accurate.

If you want Muzzin gone, you need a top 4-D to replace him. That doesn't include a 100yo and a rookie with turnover issues or Justin Holl either.

What's the plan if he is moved tomorrow for a 2nd? Who plays defence in front of two struggling goalies? Nobody? Randy plays D with RLF and Rsearss inf don't of him? It won't end well.

I really need someone to explain this rationale to me.


1.) 31 Jul 2022 04:34:40
Randy plays goalie and Rsears/ RLF in front of him*.

2.) 31 Jul 2022 04:45:11
Me and Rsears on D would be a disaster. Lol

I don't get the thought that it is Muzzin that has to go. It seems knee jerk based on one season.

As I have said, I still think a GM could improve the team more by moving Nylander than Muzzin. Muzzin can be moved next off season if things don't work out as his ntc becomes a m-ntc and he is on the last year of his deal. Or move Kerfoot and Holl instead.

Just my opinion.

3.) 31 Jul 2022 07:07:56
@RLF we disagree about some things, but here we always seem to agree.

Moving Muzzin for futures and expecting a better team just seems insane to me. Sandin and Gio aren't Muzzin. He isn't what he used to be, but who replaces him? If it's Sandin or Gio we have a serious issue.

4.) 31 Jul 2022 10:00:55
Once you find a stay at home shutdown dman to play with muzzin everyone will see it wasn’t a decline in his play at all but his lack of a good nhl dman partner.

When you start doing too much out of your own comfort zone mistakes start to happen. I truely believe this is muzzin playing with a declining holl.

Put muzzin in a position to succeed and we will see Leafs gain a top 4 dman once again without dealing muzzin to do so.

5.) 31 Jul 2022 13:27:42
So my turn to weigh in and yes I’d be terrible as a Dman.

First we ALL accept that the Leafs need to shed some salary.

Waiving Simmonds and Clifford are easy wins but they produce only minor savings. Same for Anderson but you’d get some level of return.

Similarly for Holl and perhaps Kerfoot.

Nylander and Muzzin are where the real money is.

The problem right now is 10 teams are over the cap and several others ready to go over with their next signing.

So not many choices, especially with Anaheim inking Klingberg.

My choice, as you know, is Muzzin because of his age and what I see as a serious declining performance. His mobility or lack thereof doesn’t put any fear in a forward coming down his side. You have to be able to move fluidly to execute a body check.

We will miss Lyubushkin and I’d like to see the Leafs for once get a return prior to a player becoming a free agent.

Having said that Nylander does offer an opportunity for the biggest return, whatever that might be?

I’m okay trading both but my priority is Muzzin. I still think we may need to outscore opponents this year given the questions surrounding goaltending.

But the issue of how to get cap compliant while improving our chances to win the Cup is worthy of discussion, dialogue and yes debate over different points of view!

6.) 31 Jul 2022 13:31:39
I agree Giordano does not replace Muzzin but @$800k I was accepting of the signing.
I’d like somehow to get Larsson or Mayfield on our D as a physical factor and both are RD.
Any ideas?

7.) 31 Jul 2022 14:12:00
The real loss was Boosh. He allowed Brodie to play with Muzzin and Gio 3rd pair with whoever necessary.
As for Holl, he is back to playing with indecision which kept him in the minors in the first place. He is scared to move the puck while under pressure for making a mistake. I watched that happen alot from him in the minors.

8.) 31 Jul 2022 21:28:40
@Rsears seems like you still just want 80s hockey lol.

It was exciting, I'll give you that.

@RLF I have been thinking about Boosh since he left. Everyone always said they want a, big, stay at home, modern Scott Stevens to destroy people coming across the Blueline. That was Boosh. He's moder day Scott Stevens or as close as we will ever see again.

Maybe he refused to sign here or maybe Dubas didn't value him. Who knows. If it's on Dubas though, fire him yesterday.

9.) 01 Aug 2022 00:29:20

Doesn’t everyone like watching goals being scored?

I’m hoping like heck that Murray bounces back and becomes a true number 1 capable of giving us Cup potential. I also hope Samsonov provides more than adequate backup.

If so the team will do more than win one playoff series!



23 Jul 2022 05:21:20
Anyone else see the Tkatchuk news and start thinking "wonder what Marner is worth then"


1.) 23 Jul 2022 13:35:27
First thing I thought was, so much for the theory by some that if Calgary loses Tkachuk they will have to rebuild. I'd take Huberdeau and Weegar any day.
Tkachuk is signed for less than Marner and by almost $1.5M with multiple UFA years. Another brilliant Dubas negotiation that every time another player signs, his signings look worse and worse.
I wouldn't expect more than that for Marner. Fla still well over the cap. They need to move Hornqvist.

2.) 23 Jul 2022 13:50:21
I'm intrigued to see if he has the same kind of year in a much tougher division.

3.) 23 Jul 2022 15:53:58
Marners deal was 6year deal hence why aav is higher then tkachuks.

4.) 23 Jul 2022 16:00:35
@Randy. Good point. Fla is a pretty high scoring team though. It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk goes out of his way to prove his deals worth and runs around a lot like an idiot trying to do too much.

5.) 23 Jul 2022 19:03:42
@L1994. I don't buy that theory. You pay more for UFA years than RFA years because you are buying the years they can sell themselves to the highest bidder. If Marner was 8 years and that would make his cap hit come down, then Marner would be discounting his prime earning years. I doubt he was going to do that. Dubas got played on his deals. Countless comparables show that.

6.) 23 Jul 2022 19:28:20
Marner also refused to sigh 7-8 years anywhere because Columbus wanted him for 7 years at 13 million and he told them he'd do it for 5 years.

7.) 24 Jul 2022 14:44:30
I have to agree with RLF with regards to Marner's contract. His agent, his father and he took Dubas to the cleaners.
If you look at the other big RFA's at the time, Point, Laine & Tkachuk who all took bridge deals. Everyone was saying that Marner's AAV would be in line once they resigned. And if you look now, none of the resignings are close to Marner's 10.903M even though most signed for 8 years.
Point $9.5M/ 8 years
Tkachuk $9.5M/ 8 years
Laine $8.7M/ 4 years
Let's see what Marner decides to do next negotiations. I will only give him a pass if he signs for $11M/ 8 years.

8.) 24 Jul 2022 17:29:33
@Tagz. Imo - Marner, Nylander of the big 4 he got took. Matthews if he continues to score 50+ will be a fair deal if he can get Matthewsto extend around $13-$13.5M per for 8. We know Tavares was offered more than what he signed for. Rielly was a good signing. I never liked the Kerfoot, Mrazek signings. I have said this before, Dubas is really good at anything under $2M. Over $2M, to quote Domingue, "Not the best".

9.) 24 Jul 2022 23:48:37
@Tagz is he even worth 11 million? He's never even put up 100 points. I don't see how he can even argue that he is.

10.) 24 Jul 2022 23:49:11
@RLF if the cap jumps 10 mil like it's expected to, Mathews will be in the 15 range imo.

11.) 25 Jul 2022 11:46:58
Even if it jumps that much as expected, I am not sure Matthews gets $15 (+) . Lots of GM's are signing pretty high profile guys with this same knowledge and no one is getting over $10M per at the moment. Is Matthews going to be worth $5M+ per over all these other guys who have just signed? Have to wait and see.

12.) 25 Jul 2022 14:15:43
@LL I agree he's not worth $11M, but I don't see him signing for less. I am hoping he signs for the same though.
@RLF I don't see Matthews signing for 8 years, probably 4 or 5 years.
$13.634M/ 4 years
$14.634M/ 5 years.

13.) 25 Jul 2022 18:49:33
@Tagz. Dubas needs to get that $13.634 for at least 5 years. imo.

14.) 25 Jul 2022 19:51:10
@RLF I agree. Hope it can be done and even for cheaper or at least adding a 6th year.

15.) 25 Jul 2022 19:52:58
@Tagz he may do 8 years this time. He might want a bridge, but he can only bridge so many times.

16.) 25 Jul 2022 22:19:08
@LL I think he'll just sign 4/ 5 year contracts to keep in line with the rising cap.
I would love for him to sign for 8 years.

17.) 27 Jul 2022 00:33:35
Eventually he has to sign long term. You might be right though, he waits until he's 28-29 to sign for 7-8 years.



22 Jul 2022 05:59:54
Just wanted to say, we all feel for Ian Scott. I never made it to the same level he did, but I have severe back problems from baseball. It's a terrible situation and I wish the guy the best.


1.) 22 Jul 2022 11:37:37
Seems like he has stuff planned. Good for him for accepting it and moving on. Not an easy thing I imagine.

2.) 23 Jul 2022 16:03:07
Back issues can be debilitating. I have back pain pretty much every day from a car accident years ago. Too young for the kids career to be over. Hope he finds something else he loves to do.



18 Jul 2022 06:06:48
Hey everyone, I got officially married yesterday, been together 10 years, we just finally did it.

Just wanted to bring some good news to the site for once. Based on what Dub-ass had been doing, I feel like we all need some good news lol.


1.) 18 Jul 2022 12:55:27
Congrats LL. Like a trade, do we have to evaluate in 2-3 years to see which side got the better deal? lol.

2.) 18 Jul 2022 16:26:57
@LL Congrats! A good excuse for a honeymoon vacation.
@RLF lol . I'm definitely certain that LL gets the better deal.

3.) 18 Jul 2022 18:53:21
@RLF haha. That's the best comment I've heard from anyone in days.

4.) 18 Jul 2022 23:42:53
Congrats LL.
Sympathies to your partner!

5.) 19 Jul 2022 04:04:24
You guys are all so supportive. Everyone knows I just lucked out lol.

@Tagz no honeymoon, too many kids. If the Leafs win the cup though, that will make up for it.

6.) 19 Jul 2022 12:36:52
On the surface it does seem like a large win for LL. Time will tell. Strictly form an armchair GM standpoint, I have to admit that I do not know much about what the one player brings to the table, but we all know what the other does, so. . . yea, looks like LL won this deal by a large margin:)

7.) 19 Jul 2022 23:32:05
All the best LL!




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18 Aug 2022 07:46:51
@WB they wouldn't trade him for Mathews?




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18 Aug 2022 07:46:27
That's it, bring back Hainsey. Plus-minus is again the number one stat to judge a player on.




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18 Aug 2022 01:07:20
LTIR is a weird one. If you LTIR someone they still remain against your cap, to my knowledge. The whole thing is so convoluted. The way I understand it is;

If Arizona has 0 players and adds a 10 million dollar player that's on LTIR, they can use it against the cap while still having insurance pay the contract. It allows them to spend over the cap, but they don't actually have to do so.

I believe that's why they wanted Weber and Little. It allows them to no pay 15 million in cash, while making it to the cap floor.

I may be wrong here though, so take it with a grain of salt.

U of T should offer a PhD program in LTIR. It feels. like you need 7 years of studying to understand it.




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18 Aug 2022 01:02:46
I like it.

SJ is the one team I have never come up with a prop for. I honestly don't know what they're doing. They're in limbo, between rebuild and wanting to make the playoffs.

I think they might go for this and it definitely makes the team better.




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17 Aug 2022 21:12:03
@Rsears they wanted Weber as well. Insurance pays most of their salary, but the cap hit remains the same. They essentially pay nothing and still have the benefit of a cap hit.

If they managed to aquire Weber, Yotes may have ended up with a 10 million salary while hitting the cap floor.

I would definitely like to give Rask a go. I don't think he's a top 6 guy, but he might look better beside JT than Kerfoot. If not, then he's a big body in the bottom six that can play.





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16 Aug 2022 23:12:57
@RLF that's where I'm at as well. Even if he waives, they ask for a monster return that he probably isn't worth.




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13 Aug 2022 08:10:44
Joke of a site and joke of a writer. That's all it is.

I skimmed the article because a buddy of mine sent it to me. Nylander+prospects+picks for another LHD? Dubas isn't the sharpest guy going, but I can't imagine he makes that deal.




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06 Aug 2022 04:58:42
I like Trenin. Great target. I don't think he costs an arm and a leg either.




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05 Aug 2022 18:51:54
@RLF I think that's why I'm more willing to sign him.

The best we have is that a jury found him not guilty. He had talent and was an up and comer who's life is ruined. I'd take a flyer for sure.




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05 Aug 2022 05:12:42
I'm down to sign him for a year if he wants to come. Didn't realize the trial was over, but if he's proven not guilty, I'd sign him.