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21 Mar 2022 10:07:11
Tor trades Nylander

Van trades Miller

Straight up this is a good deal for both. Nylander is signed longer at a reasonable hit, Miller adds some grit and makes the Leafs much harder to play against.

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1.) 21 Mar 2022 11:26:59
Exactly what Leafs need. If Dubas does not make another trade on two to make this team more physical then we will not win a playoff round he he will be fired. Hopefully!


2.) 21 Mar 2022 12:55:39
This is one trade I’ve been obsessing about.


3.) 21 Mar 2022 13:09:02
May as well get Halak in this deal.


 

 

19 Mar 2022 21:21:43
Wow, just got the news that Lindholm went to Boston for a 1st, 2 2nd's and a former 1st round D. This is for a rental, he may very well go back there next year, nuts.

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1.) 19 Mar 2022 21:43:49
The team in the Atlantic are losing their minds Toronto will most likely get gio as he’s basically saying that’s the only place I’m willing to go could get another depth d and an upgrade on the fourth line I wouldn’t be surprised if Appleton gets put in the gio deal.


2.) 19 Mar 2022 21:53:11
I know Tippett hasn't lived up to all the hype yet, but Tippett+1st+2nd for Giroux is another one I didn't expect.

Not sure how any of us can fault Dubas for not paying these prices.

Aside from trading Dermott I probably wouldn't do anything at the deadline I was him.


3.) 19 Mar 2022 23:34:22
Liljegren 2nd for gio.


4.) 20 Mar 2022 03:52:50
@MPH does Gio help? He's behind Rielly and Muzzin.


5.) 20 Mar 2022 08:23:22
Gio will play the right side.


6.) 20 Mar 2022 13:43:22
16 -It stating that Boston is trying to resign him for 50 Mil so maybe he is not a rental.

All I know is some of these trades that we proped that seemed like way too much, . maybe actually were'nt!
I should be a gm dammit. everybody can be a gm except for you cheapie arm chair want to be's lol ;)

side-note -Philly could have/ should have/ gottten a better return and hate to go and try to nab Braun or anyone after that as now it will become make-up pay for Girouxs lack of return.

Doobie roll up them sleevs throw and throw out thems picks and even up this arms war. ALL IN or ALL OUT? what side of the window do you want to be one?


 

 

18 Mar 2022 12:17:15
How about this one

Tor trades Nylander

Wpg trades Scheifele

Both of these guys are having good seasons and are signed for a couple more years. Nylander is younger where Scheifele is the better overall player. Thoughts

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1.) 18 Mar 2022 13:08:20
If Winnipeg is dumb enough to take it, I jump all over this deal.


2.) 18 Mar 2022 13:41:57
Actually Scheifele has been playing like crap this year, . only lately has he come around a bit.

Saying that, . I'd do that deal because I feel Marc is a top ten point producer that fell waaay off that mark this year. It seems ever since he laid out buddy in the playoffs last year and had to sit out (suspended) he seemed to decline. (so did the jets)

If he waive for us I would totally do that deal as is.


3.) 18 Mar 2022 13:48:48
Not bad but I don’t think the jets would move their top center for a winger also I’d be cautious on schiefele and the reports that he’s an issue in the room.


4.) 18 Mar 2022 14:20:23
I prefer Schiefele as a player. I don't see how this solves any issues for the Jets, so I don't think they do it.


5.) 18 Mar 2022 18:27:53
I'm not really sure why the Jets do this right now. Nylander will become the best defensive forward on the Jets (lol) right away, but that doesn't say much.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 12:08:33
Simple trade

NYI trades Chara

Tor trades Dermott

Play Chara sparingly till the end of season so he is fresh for the playoff.

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1.) 18 Mar 2022 13:37:19
I Would do that only if I knew we were doing more with our defence. That one for me is one you have in the bank and pull it out when everything else comes into place.


2.) 18 Mar 2022 18:28:21
I don't even think Chara cracks the lineup.


3.) 18 Mar 2022 18:41:59
@LL, Dermott can't either lol.


4.) 18 Mar 2022 19:28:05
@16 Dermott isn't as bad as people make him out to be. He really looks like he needs a confidence boost more than anything. Not against trading him, just not for Chara. Rather get a late round pick than almost 45yo Chara.


 

 

17 Mar 2022 21:05:32
Tor trades: Mrazek, pick

Sea. trades Driedger

Similar salary, maybe a change of scenery would help, can't hurt.

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1.) 18 Mar 2022 01:10:30
Both have struggled this year so why not?


2.) 18 Mar 2022 02:05:17
Not sure Seattle does this. Dreidger probably has a better chance to turn it around.

I could be wrong though as WB said, both look bad.


3.) 18 Mar 2022 11:12:22
Who knows maybe since Both are struggling with similar cap hits and same term.


 

 

 

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18 Mar 2022 18:58:32
I was wondering about Matthew Knies. Can he play once the College season ends - final is tomorrow.

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1.) 18 Mar 2022 19:14:39
He can if he wants to.


2.) 18 Mar 2022 20:36:14
It’s rumoured to be a possibility but makes no sense.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 18:56:51
How about Joel Edmundson. Good size, signed for 2 more at $3.5mil. Played well last playoffs as part of the big 4. What would it take to get him, he signed as a UFA.

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14 Mar 2022 22:11:36
Well that was a terrible end to the weekend, at least for us Leaf fans. But its time to look at the entire package, not just a sampling. We are going to make the playoffs, like it or not. Columbus would need to win virtually every game while the leafs play 500, so yeah, we will make it. Now, let's have a look at the season so far. We get off to a slow start (leafs are bums - trade them all), we go on an amazing streak, winning game after game by 1 goal, D look outstanding, Campbell for vezina, then C.V. strikes (long breaks, rythm upset, D look like bums, Goalies ???????). So here we are, going to make the playoffs again any everyone needs to be traded or shipped out (including the GM and shannaplan). Now where we finish in the standing means nothing as all other 7 teams are good, so a wildcard is fine with me. We do need a trade to shake things up right now so I would try and pick up Forsberg and sit Mrazek until we pay someone to take him. Bring in Chariot and Anderson from Mtl, regardless of the cost (these 2 are warriors).

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1.) 14 Mar 2022 22:46:16
Did the D look good thought or was Soup just running extraordinarily hot for a bit though?

I remember all of us having an issue with the D from the start.


2.) 14 Mar 2022 23:04:29
@16. Hard to read tone in a post, but it reads like you are saying fans are overreacting and Leafs could use a "shake up". Forsberg, Anderson and Chariot is a lot more than a "shake up" to me.


3.) 15 Mar 2022 10:09:09
@RLF, please explain the extent of a shake up. Forsberg is basically insurance and someone to take the heat off Dubas, Chariot is a UFA rental that could be had for a 2nd and lower prospect, and Anderson is the real difference maker, would cost a 1st, and a top tier prospect. Maybe you could include Nylander, you like trading him.


4.) 15 Mar 2022 11:42:21
@16 I see as usual, you didn't really say what the tone of your post was actually meant to be. I will answer your question though.
I think most would say just getting Forsberg and waiving Mrazek would be a shakeup. But you also want Chariot and Anderson which by your evaluation will cost a 1st, 2nd, top prospect and lower prospect. Nevermind Nylander, maybe you could offer Montreal Kerfoot for both and get them to even add something and retain on Chariot. Would that be enough for Kerfoot, since he is the Leafs 4th best forward?


5.) 15 Mar 2022 17:38:02
So its back to Kerfoot again, and its hard to read the tone, You mean you are having trouble reading the tone or are you speaking for everyone on here. All I did was recap the year, reminded everyone that we will make the playoffs, regardless of how bad everyone thinks we are, and suggested some moves to shake things up. I thought this was a forum for discussion between leaf fans, not a gang up on anyone who throws their hat in the ring.


6.) 15 Mar 2022 18:54:32
@16. I asked you a simple question about your post and explained why. There was no shot taken at you. You write back taking some kind of shot at me as usual. This time it is asking me to explain what a shake up is in a sarcastic way because I didn't just agree with everything you wrote and then also about me liking to trade Nylander. In my response, I actually did explain what you asked even though you did not offer the same curtesy. So, then yes, because of the Nylander comment, I threw out Kerfoot again. I guess you feel we should all just take it from you for some reason.

You have taken shots at me ever since I disagreed with you when you said Kerfoot is the 4th best forward on the team. Anyone on here can see you go out of your way to take your little shots at me. Typical guy coming on here thinking he is Mr hockey.

It's not just me though, your posts in general are often little shots at people that disagree with you, like you know better than everyone else and why can't we just agree. I don't think I am the one that needs to learn this is a forum for all Leafs fans. Maybe you need to learn that it is not just for those who will always agree with @16.


7.) 15 Mar 2022 20:40:27
Typical guy coming on thinking he is mr. hockey, better look in the mirror RLF, loooook in the mirror.


8.) 15 Mar 2022 21:51:53
So that's why you came on here 16? You wanted to show me and others what a real hockey mind thinks. Well done.


 

 

16 Mar 2020 13:37:54
Ok, I guess its time to talk offseason. I will give credit to Dubas for 1 thing, no moves at the deadline. Imagine loading up for a cup run just a few weeks ago with UFA's, just to watch them leave in July.
Leafs core are set and the D will have: Reilly, Muzzin, Dermott (when he signs), Sandin, and Holl. Switch Dermott to a RD and sign a free agent/or trade. We have pleanty of Wingers so trade Johnsson/Kerfoot/Kappy for a good RD or picks, depends on if you get a UFA RD.

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1.) 16 Mar 2020 15:18:17
Only thing I really wanted at the deadline was to move Barrie. He probably could have fetched a lot but shortly after Muzzin went down so it turns out that wasn't the worst case still having Barrie. I liked the Campbell trade as well. Good backup and a decent grinder.


2.) 18 Mar 2020 20:51:39
I think it really sucks for those teams that got burned. Tampa gave up a 1st + Nolan Foote for Coleman. How bad is that trade looking now? I already thought it was a ridiculous pay for a depth player rental, but now it's even worse.


3.) 19 Mar 2020 18:40:17
Anyone who became sellers won more than they thought and all the buyers just lost too much. With no season you have no cup and lost a prospect and 1st. That's brutal.


 

 

20 Feb 2020 16:42:28
Is there any reason that Matthews can't kill penalties, like is it in his contract. On Tuesday night Pits. won every aspect of the game including power play where Crosby was overpowering Hyman on every faceoff. Put Matthews and Marner out there, at least we would have a center on the ice.

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1.) 20 Feb 2020 17:35:17
I believe the biggest reason is he is so bad Defensively. Mathews has zero will to ever kill penalties in his career.


 

 

 

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21 Mar 2022 09:57:51
No way.

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19 Mar 2022 17:54:16
Don't get me wrong as I am not a big Nylander fan, but why do you think Rackell and Comtois will make Tavares better. If Tavares is worth $11m he should be able to drive any line regardless of who is on it.

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19 Mar 2022 12:44:55
Ok, so we are losing Lilly, Dermott, Holl, Kerfoot, Mrazek, 2 1st, 2nd, and 2 3rd + Niemela for Giroux, Chychrun, Schenn and Halak. I do like the players we got but that seems like a steep price, and Arz. will not hold back half on Chychrun, he is signed for like 3-4 years.

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18 Mar 2022 18:41:59
@LL, Dermott can't either lol.

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17 Mar 2022 20:01:14
Ok, I had to look Garland up. So his last trade was with OEL for 3 contracts, a 1st, 2nd, and 7th (I think) . He is an undersized fwd that avg's around 0.5 pts/ gm. I believe we have a similar player named Robertson that's not making $5mil a year, I would stick with him.

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21 Mar 2022 10:04:32
I am quite pleased with Gio joining the Leafs. Any of the so called media gurus would say he did well, not giving up the 1st, especially when you see the cost other went for - they also got a good 3rd/ 4th liner, smaller of course.

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20 Mar 2022 13:24:03
@LL, when all 3 were younger they were quicker and 10 years ago they could get away with a little more (like Clifford grabbing the sweater) . Any of these guys get penalized for looking at someone the wrong way now (Simmonds and Clifford) so they try and play hockey. Nash. have a big team that can skate and hit, and that is a big problem for the Leafs.

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19 Mar 2022 12:29:31
There are no perfect teams out there, the salary cap took care of that, so you fix what you can without mortgaging the future. Tampa are throwing it all in by trading 2 firsts but they just won twice, they have nothing to lose. Based on the talk around the last game we played Carolina is a complete team, great G, great D, and deep fwds. The Leafs just beat them with an AHL goalie and no Matthews. I really can't see Dubas doing much this weekend other than trying for a vet Goalie (just in case) and maybe a vet D (like Giordano), if the price is right. When the Leafs turn it on they can beat anyone, I think we all can agree on that.

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18 Mar 2022 18:47:47
@LL, Based on your assessment, just imagine how good he would be if he tried, he would be top of the league. He is what he is - Kessel 2.0. I don't see how Keefe keeps it together, it must drive him mad, he drives me mad every game.

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18 Mar 2022 13:05:03
@RLF, don't get me wrong here, I am not Nylander's greatest supporter but I look at him like this. Very talented, great shot, good skater, a top six fwd. Sure, his compete level on times looks off but not everyone is cut out to dig in the corners and crash and bang (he certainly isn't kinda like Kessel), so when he doesn't we question his compete - then he goes out and scores a couple of goals and well, we give him another pass. Tavares has looked slow on most nights and he is trying to hit people now to at least contribute that way. I don't believe I said hate in my post but if you take it that way who am I to argue.

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