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13 May 2020 18:55:22
Tor: Andersen
Chi: nylander, edjsell, nalimov.

Tor: kerfoot, engvall
Nyr: Georgiev

Tor: Johnsson dermott brooks bracco 2021 1st 2021 3rd

Col: grubauer, zadorov kadri 50% retained.


Nylander tavares nylander
Hyman Matthews marner
Micheyev kadri kapanen
Goat spezza barbanov

Reilly zadorov
Muzzin holl
Sandin Lehtonen

Grubauer georgiev split duties.

I know there are concerns of kadri doing stupid kadri things, but I'd rather a player that gives it his all and puts t all on the ice but sometimes goes a bit to far over a player that plays like it's over just because they're down by 2 goals. New coach may be able to reel him in for that.


1.) 13 May 2020 19:42:36
Kadri did dumb things yes, but I do agree he had heart. I like the way Kapanen was playing lately and even Dermott to some extent. They seem to be getting a bit more of an edge to them. Wouldn't mind having Kadri back.

2.) 13 May 2020 20:08:25
What a your thoughts on the trades?

3.) 13 May 2020 20:45:51
I don’t think Colorado makes the deal to much of a step backwards for them and the ranger are more likely to get Henrik to retire than trade gorgiev and the Andersen deal isn’t enough for me I’d rather take a 1st or 2nd than any of those players.

4.) 13 May 2020 22:00:56
I like the Freddy trade. Can't ask for more for a rental+ goalie.

Georgiev I have no idea. They seem to want top dollar which no one is paying so I don't know if they take it or not.

Colorado I can see taking that as well.



13 May 2020 02:15:30
Tor: Andersen, dermott, 2020 2nd

Col: grubauaer zadorov Timmons kadri 50% retained.

Tor: kerfoot
Nyr: georgiev


Hyman Matthew's marner
Micheyev tavares nylander
Johnson kadri kapanen
Goat spezza barbanov engvall (best of the 4)

Reilly zadorov
Muzzin holl
Lehtonen sandin.

Grubauer georgiev tandem.


1.) 13 May 2020 05:20:33
I like the Grubauer/ Georgiev tandem for sure. I thought nk you forgot to include so wine from Toronto to cover for Kadri. Kadri at $2.25M. imagine that. Now that would be a steal of a contract.

2.) 13 May 2020 12:11:28
Rangers laugh off that offer
Yes let’s bring back Kadri do we can lose him in the playoffs and not because he gets injured.

3.) 13 May 2020 12:38:23
The avs need kadri and his secondary scoring that’s why they made such a big jump this year but they will trade the others but with Francouz being a monster I don’t see why they would need Freddie.

4.) 13 May 2020 14:08:01
You really think Rangers laugh that offer off mph? I'm not so sure myself. They might not accept it, but it's definitely not a laughable offer.

Or did you mean Avs laugh it off. Re-reading your post, it looks like a post about the Avs trade. You night have just said Rangers instead by accident. Happens all the time.

If it's the Avs trade, I'm inclined to agree with you. It is distinctly in Leafs favor. But Randy is a huge Leafs fan, and he's been on the site longer than anyone else, including myself, and he is a great guy that always has good insight and comments. And he used to play goalie, whereas I payed defense (poorly) which for some reason has always meant I've had a better connection with goalies than with forwards.

I love Randy. One of my favorite contributors. If he wants to post a proposal ripping the other team off, so be it. I don't blame him. It would be nice to see Dubas' actually hands down clearly win a trade for once.

5.) 13 May 2020 15:13:15
Neither trade is doable because they don't help the team not named th Leafs.

6.) 13 May 2020 23:29:05
No I meant the rangers trade
It is laughable
Randy was a goalie? Then he should know the value of a goalie. and Kerplunk clearly isn’t it.



07 May 2020 20:08:18
Tor: reilly Johnson 2021 2nd
Van: petterson juolevi.

Tor: marner
Cgy tkachuk

Tor: nylander
Ott tkachuk

Leaf lineups

tkachuk Matthew's tkachuk
Petterson tavares kapanen
Micheyev kerfoot hyman
engvall spezza barbanov

Muzzin holl
Lehtonen dermott
Sandin juolevi/lily


Rather trade Andersen but have to pull the lunch off the grill so didn't come up with a trade, maybe work in a goalie from vancouver and send Andersen for picks or in another deal idk you guys hash it out lol.


1.) 07 May 2020 21:20:18
Rather not take on both Tkachuks. I would trade Marner for Tkachuk because the cap savings is always good. Nylander I would keep.

Vancouver would never agree to that.

2.) 07 May 2020 23:25:52
All 3 trades are a no go from Van, Cal and Ott. because of financial and talent reasons.

3.) 08 May 2020 01:14:49
Oy Vay. U address the toughness of the Leafs though make our weakest link Defense weaker. Vancouver tells u to FO with that offer and never call again, the Tkachuk proposals r more reasonable.

4.) 08 May 2020 01:24:26
On the contrary islandjet, nylander had proven he's worth and Ottawa would accept in a heart beat, it's just I think the leafs would ask for a bonus draft pic aswell.

5.) 08 May 2020 03:35:14
Uhhh no.

6.) 08 May 2020 12:00:03
Leafs gain grit. The Vancouver deal is unnecessary. Leafs don't need Petterson. And how would we be able to afford all that star power? Once Petterson and Tkachuk's elc run out, we will be forced to make a trade.

Defense looks way worse. Juolevi is still developing in the AHL. He hasn't worked out too good for Vancouver. They might be willing to trade him, but Leafs need Reilly a lot more than Petterson or Juolevi.

7.) 08 May 2020 18:21:46
If Marner didn't make so much, I think Calgary would seriously consider. And the Ottawa trade is a definite yes for Ottawa. They would have to add though for sure. Nylander had over 20 more points each of his first two seasons than Tkachuk's did. And especially after Nylanders breakout last year, he is far superior to Brady Tkachuk. Ottawa would have to add, so what significantly, imo.

8.) 08 May 2020 20:10:51
I have to agree with LeafsGM…. would love to get Tkachuk from Calgary. unfortunately I think the cap hit is too big of a difference. and Calgary does not even have a guy we could take back to compensate cap or use as a buyout. should teams be given a buyout.



07 May 2020 01:11:15
Tor: reilly johnsson

EDM: Bouchard bear 2021 1st unprotected.


1.) 07 May 2020 10:57:44
Edmonton would never agree to this proposal.

2.) 07 May 2020 13:39:46
Why not? It favours the leafs a bit but it’s not horrible.

3.) 07 May 2020 17:15:27
EDM would want more because of contract length on Reilly.

4.) 07 May 2020 20:00:55
Interesting, I thought reilly would have way more trade value. Based on what every rhd in the league seems to be worth when trading leafs for him. Let's use pesce for example. Reilly >>>>> pesce but when toronto trades for pesce he is worth kap, 1st and lily. That is essentially the same trade proposed for reilly here. Except we are adding a forward to the mix as well.

5.) 08 May 2020 03:34:58
I would never give up a 1st, Kapanen and Liljigren for pesce. Not sure who said that's fair value.

Reilly has the issue of being a rental+ right now. So if we assume Muzzin is worth a first and 2 B prospects what is Reilly worth? A 1st and an A prospect? Also asking for unprotected drives the value of that 1st up. Teams are getting burned not protecting picks and everyone else is taking notice I'm sure.

Johnson doesn't have a tonne of value. He had one decent year followed by one poor year. How much is that worth? He isn't even that young. If he was 19 he would be seen as a great player with upside. To me Johnson is what he is. He hit his ceiling. Good middle 6 player on most teams if he bounces back.

6.) 08 May 2020 12:18:52
Only RedWing thinks Lilly, Kapanen, 1st is worth Pesce. Lol.

If you trade Johnsson for Kapanen, this deal would hold a lot more appeal for the Oilers. They've been wanting a RW like Kapanen for a couple years now. I think he would thrive on their team playing beside either McDavid or Draisaitl. And Reilly would as well.

This fills two big needs for Oilers. If they want to compete now, they make this trade. And I do believe Oilers are entering "win-now" mode, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them start making deals like this.



30 Apr 2020 15:35:36
Tor: reilly
Ott: top 2 1sts picks this year

Tor: nylander
Chi:kane 50% retained
Resign barrie with reilly's money.

Tor: Andersen 2nd
Col: grubauer
Hyman Matthew's marner
Kane tavares kapanen
Micheyev kerfoot barbanov
Engvall spezza ?

Muzzin holl
Dermott barrie
Sandin lili

Grubauer campbell


1.) 30 Apr 2020 16:30:17
Ottawa and Chicago wouldn't do those trades.

2.) 30 Apr 2020 16:31:54
I don't think Ottawa does this at all. During a rebuild those first are worth far more than Reilly.

3.) 01 May 2020 00:05:53
I think you're only going to get one of those picks, Randy.

4.) 01 May 2020 14:53:20
If you were the Leafs, would you make that trade? For both picks, maybe. For one of them, no.

You pick a defenseman top 3 overall and hope they turn into a player as good as Reilly. We don't need the top picks from this draft unless you plan on trading Marner or Matthews. We are set at forward. So trading Reilly for picks doesn't work because those picks won't get us a other Reilly back.

5.) 01 May 2020 19:00:50
The leafs would have to be signing Pietrangelo that’s the only way I can see Reilly being traded.

Also Ottawa already has Chabot they don’t need Reilly.




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01 Jun 2020 15:26:10
I'm not sure if johnsson and kerfoot land a first, aside from that I kind of like it. I'm not a fan of signing Pietro though. I feel like he will be the next doughty/ keith/ karlsson

I'd rather go after tanev, because at least if he has a bad injury we can get ltir, its lower risk%reward but we keep the money around for reilly in 2 years. If we go after Pietro we are essentially saying we are all in for 2-4 years and then likely letting are stars walk at free agency to enter another rebuild.




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31 May 2020 03:45:45
With the fact we give up the better players now nyr add. Maybe strip them of georgiev in this deal.




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29 May 2020 14:36:39
I don't hate it, but I don't know if anaheim would take it solely on need.




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28 May 2020 00:01:58
Right I feel like the way he has done his contracts he has to look for the best way to utilize those players. I would love to see it tried, watch we see it in like 20 years haha you all saw it here first.




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27 May 2020 21:16:01
Welcome to the site. i'd be up for the Andersen trade especially if we could get them to include joulevi. My outlook on them being between rebuild and hopeful Is that they likely want to go for it in pettersen and Hughes elc's I'm a big fan of leivo's but I don't see him resigning in toronto. I'd love to see him given a chance in the top 6. He was just one of those players babcock decided he didn't like and ruined his chances in TO

I would have loved to see a top 9 of

Hyman tavares nylander
Leivo Matthews marner
Micheyev kadri kapanen

Literally just sign pk players and don't play then unless you are short handed
Defense pairings

Reilly gardiner
Muzzin holl
Sandin dermott
Lehtonen lily

Hell change up the concept and run 9 forwards 9 defenseman
Marincin is only penalty kill rotate the other 8

reilly gardiner
Muzzin holl get 20 minutes each a night reilly gardiner offensive starts muzzin holl defensive starts and you put the other 2 pairs in when they need breaks, you then run 3 defenseman and a forward for draws on the penalty kill, unless you have a defenseman who can take the draws. I like to look at things through a different lens some times. People may like the idea or find it crazy but I'm just here to try and generate conversation. When I'm not busy wishing for things.

Would've been nice though either way if Dubas didn't trade Leivo and didn't trade kadri.





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