19 Apr 2026 12:16:13
Leafs trade Matthews and Carlo to Kings for Byfield, Clarke, 2026 1st, 2028 1st. 2030 2nd becomes a first if Matthews resigns.
Reasoning, LA window is now with Panarin coming in.
Leafs trade Nylander brothers and OEL to Dallas for Seguin, Robertson, prospect.
Reasoning, Dallas cannot afford contract of Robertson.
Leafs trade Stolarz to Utah for Morino, Marino to San Jose for Dellandrea.
Reasoning, Each team fills a need they have.
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19 Apr 2026 12:59:36
I don’t hack on posts ever but, no! Just No! We’re not building around Jason Freakn Robertson ever! Build around Knies cross our fingers on May 5th and start at the back end with Verheoff I think, maybe Carrels I’m not a pro scout but think Verheoff even tho he’s only been a Defensemen for like 5 years his upside is huge.
Go from there building around him Knies and cowboy as well as the Beast and the other one lol can’t spell his name. So off to a good start but the soft Leaf thing is done.
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19 Apr 2026 13:53:58
So in the first trade what is the value you placed on Carlo? Was he one of the first round picks or was he supposed to be even for Byfield or for Clarke? I'd like to know to assess further.
In the last trade I find that one confusing. The only team I see wining in that one is San Jose who gets a very very good defenseman. Utah gets a perpetually injured Goalie, and the Leafs get a Forward who based on 82 game seasons averages 18 points a season.
19 Apr 2026 10:07:49
Toronto's looking to dump Domi this summer, and I'd love to swap him straight up for Ryan Donato.
Rielly for Neal Pionk as well. Toronto could even keep $500k hah of Rielly's cap hit to make the salaries match.
Honestly, I can't picture Rielly wearing the Leaf anymore next year.
Pionk had a rough season too (injuries played a part), so two guys who underperformed swap teams and both get a fresh start.
Nick Robertson's RFA rights for Michael Carcone.
Nothing huge, but they gotta do something. Every line needs some kind of upgrade.
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19 Apr 2026 11:19:37
The first reasonable comments “this is it” has made since being on here. Not saying the other teams would say yes but at least he is not not trading Knies for any scrub that has had one good year in the past.
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19 Apr 2026 14:02:09
Domi for Donato and Robertson for Carcone are basically just trading the exact same player for the exact same player. I like the Pionk for Reilly deal, because Pionk was injured for sure. However....I strongly suspect that Winnipeg will not be a destination that Reilly and his wife would want to relocate to.
18 Apr 2026 20:56:44
Toronto should kick the tires on a Seth Jones trade. Chicago retains $2.5M of his cap hit and we send Knies the other way.
I'd also be okay with moving Rielly, Quillan + 2nd round pick 2026 for Chychrun.
Give Dumba a cheap 1-year / $1M deal so he can split season with Villeneuve next season.
Then in free agency this summer, go out and target a legit top-6 forward and a one more defenseman maby.
Then if Toronto traded Dakota Joshua for Trevor Moore or Connor Brown, I’d be absolutely thrilled.
Oh man, that would make me so happy!
Benoit and Myers trade pick somewhere.
And draft Chase Reid woww.
Chyshrun - Jones
McCabe/OEL - Carlo
OEL/McCabe - Dumba/Tanev?/Villeneuve
PP2 Dumba.
In Chyshrun, S Jones, Dumba, Trevor Moore or Connor Brown and two mid round draft picks.
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18 Apr 2026 22:17:04
Won't even go into all the trades. First question is on the first trade. How does the that trade help each team more than it hinders them?
As much as I have slagged Knies a bit this year, if you are trading him, you trade to a team that needs forwards and has a excess of Defensemen. And you get a younger d-man with bigger upside than Jones in return. Florida is not giving up One of their top D-men when they have lots of Forwards.
Their issue this year was injuries not lack of good forwards. They are still thin somewhat on the Defense. Not saying Knies is not a good piece for a d-man you just need to find a bettter fit. Plus you pointed it out. Chicago is on the hook for $2.5 of Jones contract. Why would Florida give up that benefit to take on a larger contract and still be shy of a Defenseman after it the trade is done?
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19 Apr 2026 02:27:46
Dumba is done. I'd be looking to sign. Logan Stanley tho.
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19 Apr 2026 13:11:25
This is it. Also I forgot to mention in my rant, isn’t Jones in Florida now not Chicago? Maybe not watching much this yr; he went back for some reason but I swear. Anyway cheers!
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19 Apr 2026 13:17:20
@thisisit man……. Are you ok?? Knies for Jones? Lmaoooo wow two in a day I can’t let this pass. Knies for Jones? I got it right? Mathew Knies is a unicorn man! Only headed up! Jones is fine but to make that trade is massively counterproductive and if that happens the Leafs are being set up and purposefully destroyed.
Look at what Tre did with the Carlo trade! This could haunt us for yrs and set us back 10 plus years. I don’t know but let’s not suggest to help these incompetent idiots anymore man pls!
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19 Apr 2026 14:04:23
@Henry77 The way he worded it is kind of confusing but yes Chicago sent Jones to Florida and Chicago is retaining $2.5 of that contract. So it actually is in Florida's benefit with their salary issues to keep Jones with that deal.
18 Apr 2026 19:48:15
How anyone believes that a bottom five finish requires a retool and not a rebuild is the definition of insanity.
Holinka Danford Cowan Knies are blocks.
Woll Hildeby Akhtyamov are fine for the net.
Matthews Rielly to Ducks.
McTavish Luneau Colangelo McQueen.
2nd 2026 2nd 2027 to Leafs.
Nylander to Hawks.
1st 2026 Hawks pick to Leafs.
Draft.
With Leafs pick in top five.
Drafting Malhotra and Reid with the Hawks pick and Leafs own pick.
Still have trash like Domi Joshua Lorentz.
Mercy sell off for 4th rd picks in return will suffice.
Stolarz is untradeable?
Maybe someone will take him with Moldenhauer as a sweetener.
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18 Apr 2026 22:36:36
Shaking my head. I have no words.
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18 Apr 2026 23:25:48
Still suffering?
You replied to the Seth Jones trade … He’s still in
Chicago?
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18 Apr 2026 23:07:25
You’re insane this team would’ve made the playoffs in the west not to mention the defending champions are in a similar position injuries hindered the Leafs all year we can score have goalie options but crappy defence and coach so this team isn’t that far off. Insane twit lets blow it all up…dumb
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19 Apr 2026 05:59:06
@golftown. Seth Jones is not in Chicago. But Chicago retained $2.5 m when they traded him to Florida. Everyone knows that.
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19 Apr 2026 06:46:56
I guess I was shaking my head because the trades just seemed to be tossed out with not thought at all in them.
You trade Nylander and get one 1st round pick in return?
You trade Matthews and Reilly at $20.75 Million and get Mctavish's Contract at $7 million. (The others are not on the main team so not part of the Salary Cap for 23 man roster.) Everyone things Anaheim has this massive Salary Cap money availability for next year. At $39.7 million. But it is very deceiving. Say this trade happened. Now they have $26 million left (Give or take).
But they still have 7 players to sign to fill their roster. 2 of those are Gauthier and Karlsson. So say $18 million there. On the low end if you go by most reports. Now there is still Mintyukov and Zellweger as RFAs and we haven't even touched base on the fact the team still has Carlson, Trouba and Gudas all heading to UFA's.
These are things that have to be taken into account when looking at Trade Partners. Anaheim has big decisions to make within their own organization without bringing in a big name with a big contract.
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19 Apr 2026 13:16:22
Leafsgm78 hey man I’m guessing at by the 78 your 47 yrs old. Watched the Leafs thru some really good yrs Gillmore Clark Sundin Robert’s Tucker Stumpy etc! These past tens yrs shoulda yielded more than a second round game 7 blowout no?? I’m sorry, I think we’re further than u think sir.
These guys don’t have what I takes to win. Maybe Matthews without guys that showboat “Willy” and baby’s “Marner” crying about having to play 60mins a night or start at puck drop. Idk man maybe you’re seeing other results.
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19 Apr 2026 16:04:31
Or not spending a decade trying to find a partner for your #1 d-man who isn’t very good to begin with.
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19 Apr 2026 16:29:13
@LeafsGM78. How do you figure the Leafs would have made the playoffs in the west?
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19 Apr 2026 17:09:33
Giving up Knies for Seth Jones is absurd!
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19 Apr 2026 17:12:06
If they didn’t tank the last ten games, mathematically, if they won half they’d be in.
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19 Apr 2026 17:18:08
Bottom line Matthews and Nylander aren’t the problem so I don’t understand how trading them is the solution. 1st round picks are still only maybes not 80 point players.
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19 Apr 2026 17:52:15
@LeafsGM78 Your theory of them making the playoffs in the West is number one Fantasy (because they don't play in the West) and number 2 pure speculation.
Here is the reality. Playing in the East they still would not have made the playoffs is they had won 5 of those games. They still would have been woefully short. Had they played in the West and didn't tank the last games and nothing had changed at the Trade Deadline they would probably based on their record not made the playoffs in either division. At the Deadline they had 65 points in 63 games that would have translated to 84.6 points we will round it off at 85. That is if they would have kept McMann, Laughton and Roy.
Remember the Leafs had lost 6 in a row at that point without Matthews getting injured.
This team was not a threat to make the playoffs in any conference. The last stretch was to get into that 5th spot and that is no guarantee depending on the draw. We had games earlier after the trade deadline we had no business winning and almost cost us getting to the 5th spot.
Nylander's point production is not the problem however that also makes him almost attractive Trade target for other teams rather than Matthews because of Matthews ceclining production and not coming off injury. Especially with Matthews Contract and Willy being tied into a long term contract at $11.5 that also makes him more attractive in a trade. Because that contract will look very good in a few years.
16 Apr 2026 19:29:54
I know some disagree, but I have been done with Robertson for a while. Never saw him as a 25-30 goal guy and still don't.
I don't want the Leafs to pay this guy like $2M+ to stay. Just move on.
CLB
Robertson RFA
Tor
Ceulemans RFA
McCue $.858M
Columbus picks up an NHL player for 2 project prospects.
Leafs get a good sized, good skating RD that likely needs a change of scenery in Ceulemans. If Leafs can bring him along, he could be a steal. McCue is a gamer. Plays physical. His younger brother Sam, is a Leaf draft pick.
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16 Apr 2026 20:39:09
McCue stats look like he can't quite translate his junior game to the pro level. Cuelemon looks interesting, but not quite enough of a player to trade for Robertson. Like you, I feel Robertson should be traded. I'd personally use him to try and upgrade out 5th overall to land Verhoeff.
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16 Apr 2026 22:50:36
Robertson is a 25 goal scorer...
For the Ducks
Luneau is the return.
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17 Apr 2026 00:58:43
The writings been in the wall for the last two years.
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17 Apr 2026 01:32:29
We give Robertson the minimum qualifying offer we need to offer. If he accepts great... then we package him up to somewhere else. If he doesn't accept, then let someone else sign him and we take either the 3rd or 2nd round pick in compensation. But I don't like either player coming back. We have others in our own system that can fill their needs.
You said Ceuleman needs a change of scenery. You know what? If you are picked 25th overall 5 years ago, your change of scenery better have been with the team that drafted you, not 3 years straight with the farm team with not one call up to the NHL. We don't want him.
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17 Apr 2026 02:01:50
Just Curious, is your buddy one of the Amateur Scouts, Pro Scouts or one of the Regional Field Scouts?
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17 Apr 2026 13:12:35
Sorry that was meant for another poster.
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17 Apr 2026 13:28:36
Suffering. Who's giving the Leafs a 2nd for Robertson?
As for Ceulemans not being in the NHL. So, should the Leafs walk away from Akhtyamov (24), Peksa (23), Rafai (28), Hirvonen (24) and Villeneuve (24) as well then? They are all older and most drafted in 2020. You are going to probably split hairs and say you said not one call up even, so it's different. Columbus has had great defensive depth during Ceulemans years. That is relevant.
Ceulemans is just 22 (I know, 23 in May). Spent two years in the NCAA first. The skills are there. He hasn't put it all together. He has the size and skating. McCabe was 22 before he was full time with the Sabres. Tanev 24. Benoit 23. How about from some other teams. Soucy 25. Mayfield 25. Borgen 25. Lauzon 23. Just a small example of guys many have said the Leafs could now use that weren't full time NHLers at 22. Not uncommon for NHL D-men not to be in the NHL in their 22nd year. Should the Ducks, who have great D depth start thinking about walking away from Warren next year if he doesn't make the team? What about Luneau if he isn't a full time NHLer next year? Montreal has tons of D depth, if Reinbacher, former 5th overall pick, who turns 22 in October, isn't fulltime next year, should nobody want him? Engstrom is already 22, should they dump him if he can't carve a fulltime position?
I also did not say Ceulemans would be a top 4 D.
I said if he puts it together, he could be a steal. Meaning I don't think Robertson has much value, so if Ceulemans can become a regular NHL D-man, that's a steal for the Leafs as 6'3" Right shot D are the rarity.
McCue is also only 23. McCue would be great for the Marlies. Plays hard, sticks up for teammates and can play a regular shift. If he can work his way into a 4th line NHLer that hits, fights and plays well defensively, that's a plus.
One of the main reasons for doing it is that the Leafs would also be clearing Robertson's cap hit, whatever that will be. I would wager he wants a raise and I hope the Leafs don't keep him and give him one.
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17 Apr 2026 13:29:30
I also have no idea what you are talking about with the scout buddy comment. I've never claimed I have a scout buddy.
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17 Apr 2026 13:40:04
I see you have now said your comment about a scout buddy was meant for another poster. That wasn't there when I posted. Thanks for calrifying.
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17 Apr 2026 14:31:19
To address the Robertson thing first. He is earning $1.825 million if we don't offer him anything he walks and we get nothing at all. If we qualify him at that price and he decides to go as a RFA and gets minimum that same price (And he will as other teams need guys who can score 15 to 20 a year) we get a 3rd round pick in return for them signing him. If he has multiple teams bidding and he gets $2.3 - to $4.6 (I think he gets $2.5 from the right team looking to add scoring on their 3rd line or possibly the 2nd with the right linemates. Then we get a 2nd as compensation.
As far a Ceulemans.... No we should not give up on some of our later drafted guys or Undrafted guys.
I am not doing the full deep dive into every name but I can almost guarantee most of them at least got call ups from the minors a few times before they cracked the lineup full time.
The thing that stands out with Ceuleman is this stat. In his draft year that he was a first round pick. Of the top 10 defensemen taken from #1 to #35 in that draft. He is the only single one to have not played a game in the NHL at all. Carson Lambos from Minnesota has only played 1 but the other 8 have all at least had call ups or found a regular spot in the line-up.
I'm Curious on How much you would offer Ceulemans as a RFA?
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17 Apr 2026 16:32:58
I already noted that you would likely say, not one call up makes a difference. Neither has Warren in Anaheim. You wouldn't take him? Soucy had none by 22 either. 3 NHL games at 23 and then the next full year back in the A. Mayfield had 5 games as a 21 year old and 6 as a 23 year old. Then 25 as a 24 year old. The rest of his time spent in the A. Borgen had 4 as a 22 year old, 10 as a 24 year old. These are the closest comparables of guys I mentioned, and I only really looked at guys that come up on this site or with the Leafs.
So Soucy's 0 games by 22, Mayfield's 5 and Borgen's 4 somehow make them more valuable than Ceulemans? Pretty sure I could come up with more if I actually tried. To me, and no offense, it seems kind of a short sighted thing to say about a 22 year old D "he hasn't ever been called up, so don't want him."
As for the draft. Ceulemans at 25th and 0 games. Lambos 26th, 1 game. Mailoux 31st. Only 8 games before this season and the only reason is because he was traded to STL and got an opportunity (Like I am saying for Ceulemans).
Allan 32nd. 43 with the Hawks last season when they stunk and nothing this year and they still stink. Buium the 11th d-man taken at 36th. 0 games. Chayka the 12th taken at 38th. 0 games. All these D were taken within 13 picks of Ceulemans. I would offer the minimum to retain his rights.
As for Robertson. I am not sure what you are talking about as far as how his RFA status goes and the Leafs qualifying him. IIRC, if they qualify him, they retain his rights. If he turns it down, he can elect to go to arbitration. Only the team can walk away under certain circumstances, the player can't. If the team walks away he becomes a UFA. What do you mean if he decides to go RFA and gets the same price we get a 3rd and if it's more we get a 2nd? He can't negotiate with other teams. Are you talking about an offer sheet? Are you suggesting teams will offer sheet Robertson?
Anyhow. I don't really agree, but Good convo.
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17 Apr 2026 19:40:06
I personally think that Robertson and the Leafs will part ways. I think they will qualify him at the minimum they have too. Then I think they will actually not request Arbitration because it could backfire on them. If a trade is not done with another team for his rights that is. Keep your eye on Pittsburgh. They want Jason Robertson and he and Nick together switched agents this year. Dubas wanted to try and trade for Jason Robertson but also didn't want to give up the package Dallas wanted. There have been very few offer sheets done of late. A lot was due to teams Salary restrictions and their inability to have the necessary picks to give the required compensation.
Dubas has the Highest available Salary Cap for nexct year of all the teams $46,7 million and only has to fill 6 spots. He also has the draft compensation available to go after both Robertsons at $12.5 and $2.5 and still have 2nd and multiple 3rds next year. They would still have almost $32 miillion left to fill 4 roster spots.
If anyone could pull off 2 offer sheets it would be Dubas.
Re: Defenceman stuff. I'm not going to keep a back and forth going here. It's not about age. It's more about how quickly the team acknowledges giving you a look, Especially if you are a 1st overall pick. I appreciate the research you did on these players you listed on ages etc. There are obviously as you pointed out some factors in cases with teams depths on why players don't get the call. For instance the reason Soucy had 0 games at 22 is because he was in University and Still did one more year after that so he could get his Business Management Degree. Another for instance was Chayka, he was just a terrible draft Pick by Vegas. They saw him play when he was 17 in Guelph then during his draft year which was Covid he went back to play in Russia and regressed and they never got to see him much so Vegas rolled the dice. They rolled Craps. Anyway have a great weekend and yes....good convo.
16 Apr 2026 16:22:45
That Trocheck rumor is still alive, that Toronto might be interested in him. This rumor actually comes from at least one Toronto scout, since I know him pretty well and we’ve talked a bit. He mentioned that there were already some ideas last season about trying to bring Trocheck to Toronto.
So yeah, I’d definitely be open to acquiring him via a trade.
He won’t come cheap, but I’m 100% sure that Toronto will at least try to get him this summer.
Whether it would be Cowan or Knies going the other way, I really can’t say.
So, ladies and gentlemen! What kind of trade do you think would make sense to bring Vincent to the Leafs?
A new GM announcement is coming next week….
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16 Apr 2026 17:56:46
I’m not trading Cowan or Knies for a 32 year old who scored 16 goals. Not even a consideration.
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16 Apr 2026 20:41:02
Trochek is too old. We have JT already. If we're moving Cowen or Knies I'd expect a much younger star center, Thomas is an option.
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16 Apr 2026 20:46:44
I think your scout buddy just got fired
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17 Apr 2026 01:07:24
@ thisisit... Can you be any more vague? I can guarantee that every team in the NHL had "Ideas" about bringing Trocheck to their team. So the fact Toronto is interested means nothing. They are interested in probably 100 players in the NHL.
What does your scout say the asking price is? None of us know your real name or your scout buddies name. Just give us the actual asking price he said it is?
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17 Apr 2026 02:06:43
Just Curious, is your buddy one of the Amateur Scouts, Pro Scouts or one of the Regional Field Scouts?
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18 Apr 2026 02:58:38
How ridiculous.
Cowan or Knies for the 32 year old Trocheck.
Leafs have more than enough 30+ year olds on their roster already.
Sounds like a Mike Gillis type of trade.
God forbid!
15 Apr 2026 21:47:00
With the Leafs now getting that 2nd round pick, if Adam Nemec is still available, that is someone I think the Leafs should be looking hard at.
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15 Apr 2026 21:36:22
What?
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15 Apr 2026 23:29:23
I agree, RLF. I mentioned him a little while ago. The kid looked great at the World Juniors and then stepped right from there right in the OHL and adapted great.
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16 Apr 2026 02:12:29
Leafsgm. The pick they got for Laughton is now a 2nd because LA has made the playoffs.
Suffering. Didn't realize you had. But I obviously agree. He is quick, skilled, great vision, goes to the net and pretty good shot with decent size.
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16 Apr 2026 20:48:43
I know. Sorry, I thought you were talking about another player.