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18 Jun 2026 16:59:28
I really want to know why everyone is so against trading Knies. If Kyler is right and the ask is a top pairing D++ I don't see the issue.
I'm a big fan of Knies, but if you want a top pairing D as everyone has said, if you want a retool, he's really the only trade chip.
What if you got something like a top 15 pick in this draft, top pairing D and a prospect, would that not make this team better now and in the future?
18 Jun 2026 12:08:27
What if Toronto signed Simon Nemec to a bridge deal worth $4.7 million per season for two years, and Nemec played on the top defensive pairing? Then Morgan Rielly could be traded somewhere, and I think Jake McCabe could be a good partner for Nemec.
And draft second round pick Simon Nemec's brother, Adam Nemec.
I would also swap Michael Pezzetta for Angus Crookshank.
Maybe Rielly and Nick Robertson could be traded to New Jersey, with Dougie Hamilton coming to Toronto in return.
Then Hamilton could play on the second pairing with Oliver Ekman-Larsson.
I could also see Brandon Carlo being moved for something like a second-round pick, with Villeneuve might also be a good option, playing on the third pairing alongside Andrae.
If Chris Tanev isn't able to play, the defensive pairings could look something like this:
McCabe-Nemec
OEL-Hamilton
Villeneuve–Andrae.
18 Jun 2026 12:44:30
100% in favour of going after Nemec. Hamilton isn’t much of an upgrade on Reilly and more money, so pass. That 3rd pairing is not good.
18 Jun 2026 13:10:22
What I don't get about adding Andrae and just assuming he is on the team, is that wasn't Thrun supposed to have all the same skills but 6' 2". They have put up similar number in the NHL and although Andrae got sheltered minutes, Thrun wasn't sheltered as much getting mostly D-zone starts.
Seems like we just traded for a smaller version of a guy we have in the A almost the same age.
18 Jun 2026 11:01:31
Apparently the Leafs are still exploring a Knies trade. Chicago was interested.
Tor- Knies, Robertson, 3rd
Chi- 4th overall, Levshunov, Korchinski
Chicago gets their guy to play beside Bedard that they covet and depth scoring. Toronto gets 2 young puck moving d-men and draft Stenberg at 4 (Assuming Reid and Malholtra go before him).
With Toronto bringing in McKenna and Stenberg they still have a big hole at 2C.
Tor - Reilly, 2027 1st Col
Van - Pettersson
I know people don't like Pettersson but he is a former 100 point player that could be had for cheap.
He might enjoy playing on an all Swedish line in Toronto.
Top 6
McKenna-Matthews-Cowan
Stenberg-Pettersson-Nylander
Tavares to 3C
D-core still needs work but with these moves they actually clear more cap space moving Reilly and Knies so you can spend on a guy like Hamilton, Raddysh or Carlson or 2 of those 3.
18 Jun 2026 10:27:08
That Swedish line will be -75 😬
18 Jun 2026 10:46:37
The day the Leafs trade Knies, is the day I become a permanent Ducks fan. That has to be one of the softest teams I’ve ever seen anyone put on this site. Tkachuk and Bennett would enjoy playing these guys.
18 Jun 2026 13:43:13
Look at clearly overreacting like a typical Leafs fan. Sometimes you have to trade something good to get something good. I'd hope my judgement u til you see the return.
18 Jun 2026 15:27:21
Problem is that Matthews and Nylander asked for 2 things, a mobile D-man and some ”Dogs” up front to forecheck, dig in the corners for them and stick up for them. None of these players address that! I think Mason Marchment will be in Leafs top 6 this year.
And I hope Knies is still there on the other line. Then sign Boone Jenner for third line center.
18 Jun 2026 00:17:05
Sharks
Knies
Rielly
Carlo
Quillan
1st 2027
Leafs
2nd overall. Draft Reid
Misa
They get 2 more dmen and the jewel Knies
And a 4th line center who can pk
We get our stud dman and Second line center
Draft McKenna
Sign
Raddysh
Jenner
Tuch
17 Jun 2026 23:44:55
Leafs don’t need to include the first.
18 Jun 2026 09:46:35
Yes they do.
Sharks are taking Rielly's contract with no retention.
18 Jun 2026 10:59:50
No to moving Knies. Not sure why people are under estimating the value of a power forward that has skill, will fight, sticks up for teammates, can’t be knocked off a puck and battles in the tough areas. All his goals are scored right outside the crease. Who is gonna take that role? We have a bunch of perimeter players and few guys that drive the net and you goofs want to trade him. There is maybe a handful of effective power forwards in the whole league and we have 1 of them and he isn’t even in his prime yet.
Sorry to be harsh but people putting Knies in trades don’t know hockey. After watching that Stanley Cup finals, you guys still think we can win with the heartless perimeter players. Obviously every other team is inquiring about Knies, how come we don’t hear much about teams going after Willy? Because he is not a character piece that will drive a team to the finals. He is just a YouTuber with good hockey skill and IQ. But after Chyaka traded Woll for practically nothing, it wouldn’t surprise me.
18 Jun 2026 12:07:05
I don’t want to move Knies either. But if they are set on doing that, including him in this deal means you do not have to retain on Rielly.
18 Jun 2026 15:13:24
I agree with Clarky if we trade Knies and don't get absolute boatload in return, I'm out. You just don't trade players like Knies. Trade Nylander all day over Knies.
17 Jun 2026 23:32:25
PHI: Tippett, Barkey, Luchenko, Jiricek
TOR: Danford, Carlo, Quillan, Robertson
2027 first rd pick (COL)
17 Jun 2026 23:11:41
I don’t think Danny Brière had that many concussions 🤕….
16 Jun 2026 23:25:43
This is the 1st of many things that will happen in the next few weeks (don’t over analyz). After this trade we have more options. The Leafs got more cap space, another draft pick and better on D.
17 Jun 2026 09:38:26
I think they’re putting together an offer sheet on someone.
17 Jun 2026 13:35:41
Maybe, we can't top 4.something max since we don't have the proper draft picks in the upcoming drafts.
17 Jun 2026 15:25:02
Yeah we are screwed as far as any high end RFA offer sheets.
17 Jun 2026 21:35:43
Question can we use Col 1st to offer sheet?
17 Jun 2026 21:39:31
Well crap Kesslring was one of my targets but he’s a Shark now but maybe a return for Reilly.
17 Jun 2026 22:37:16
@ leafsgm78. No, we can’t use that Colorado pick. It has to be one of our actual picks not a traded pick. Unless it was one of our original picks we trade to get back. In other words, if we traded someone to Philly or Boston to get those picks back.
17 Jun 2026 22:55:11
Gotcha I sort of clued in after I posted that but thanks for clarifying that!!
16 Jun 2026 23:08:40
Had to dump Woll or Stolarz in order to keep Hildeby and Stolarz has a 16x team no trade clause.
16 Jun 2026 22:14:28
What would it take to get McMichael from Caps as our 2C. And would you fellas be interested in such an acquisition? Would the Caps even entertain the idea?
16 Jun 2026 22:37:35
I like McMichael and he had an off season last year. If the price is right, im in.
16 Jun 2026 19:29:22
It’s gonna save the Leafs 5m+ and they’re getting a 3rd. The Leafs could definitely use that 5m+ on better players.
16 Jun 2026 21:19:12
???? Justify it all you want, it was stupid. A big nothing burger. Another bad trade for this 💩 franchise
16 Jun 2026 21:26:30
Like Who?
16 Jun 2026 21:40:38
They traded the right goalie but return could’ve been more.
16 Jun 2026 21:57:50
I'm hopeful that Woll proves the better trade choice than Stolarz, but I’m totally underwhelmed by the return.
Maybe Florida was offering zero value on bringing back Stolarz.
Andrae certainly is not the answer to our D problem. He better have lots of speed at 5.9, even if he's carrying 194.
Why take back a goalie for the AHL? I think the plan has always been to promote Hildeby over Akhtyamov so it makes little sense. What value could they get for Ersson with his numbers?
The third pick is #85, still possible to get a good pick but one that requires time to develop.
16 Jun 2026 23:00:41
Boys!!! Woll had a horrible season, horrible World Cup and is a walking bandaid. We got a 3rd rounder. Take it and run!!!!
16 Jun 2026 18:51:57
I must be missing something with the Leafs trade. Woll and Benoit for Ersson, Andrae and a 3rd. Are they planning on flipping Ersson? Andrae is definitely not the missing piece to this D. They want the cap space for something bigger?
16 Jun 2026 18:19:41
I don't really get it either, I don't see how you even flip him, maybe the offer was a 4th I less we took the contract slot to bump it up to a 4th. It feels like a not great return for Woll. But I'm also not super familiar with that defenseman.
16 Jun 2026 18:24:31
Saves 5m+ and gets us a 3rd. Can definitely use that 5m+ on a better goalie and D-man.
16 Jun 2026 19:30:18
3rd pairing, 24yo energizer bunny puck moving D. Team has to get faster on the backend as lkng as it doesn't go back to the Dubas days.
16 Jun 2026 19:56:37
LL. Is he really that fast though? I see him as a better puck moving Stecher. Stecher is a little faster, but Adrae better edgework. I don't know, I guess if moving on from Woll to bring in a D, I was hoping for a little more upside and size than Andrae. I hope he surprises me.
16 Jun 2026 20:46:44
King…. You’re not using that money on a “better goalie”. And Andrae is stetcher 2.0….. He's an average skater.
16 Jun 2026 21:08:06
This one is a true head shaker. We have cap money now to go after someone like Tuch who I am a bit leery of without Tage Thompson playing with him. Only way we get rid of Woll to save more salary cap in this deal, is if we are going after a Bobrovsky. Because Ersson is not the answer.
He is just as much if not more injury prone and inconsistent as Woll and Stolarz. I would not be opposed to bringin Bobrovsky in as a Mentor to A. A and we then move out Stolarz. But if this isn't the plan I truly and confused with the deal.
16 Jun 2026 22:23:33
It’s early, boys
Let’s review in September.
16 Jun 2026 22:49:48
Ckps…. 😂 Key Scouting Attributes Skating & Mobility: He possesses excellent edge work and agility, allowing him to walk the offensive blue-line, evade forecheckers, and quickly retrieve pucks. Passing & Vision: Andrae’s standout trait is his distribution. He excels at making sharp, accurate outlet passes that instantly transition his team from defense to the rush. Hockey IQ: He reads the ice extremely well, frequently quarterbacking the power play and making calm, calculated decisions with the puck on his stick. Size & Physicality: At 5'9" and roughly 189 lbs, Andrae lacks prototypical NHL size. While he competes with a high work rate and will deliver hits against the boards, he can get overpowered or boxed out by heavy, physical forwards in net-front battles.
Shooting: He has a decent wrist shot and knows how to get pucks through traffic to the net, though he doesn't own a heavy or booming slap shot. Projection: He profiles as a mobile, offense-minded bottom-pair defenseman who can anchor a second-unit power play. He is considered an effective puck-mover who thrives when paired with a larger, stay-at-home defensive partner who can cover for him in the corners. You can track his overall hockey metrics on Elite Prospects.
16 Jun 2026 23:48:53
If he has offensive skills and is weak in the defensive end and his acquisition takes away quality development ice time from Danford, it’s already a bad deal. We need an offensive defensemen yes... But that same player needs to not be weak in our own end.
17 Jun 2026 13:03:39
Boys!!! It’s a depth piece in a position we have no depth. Stop over analyzing! Who knows if we even sign him. Look at the big picture. We saved cap and got a pic.
16 Jun 2026 17:59:48
To Tor
Gustafson
To Minny
Stolarz
Robertson (RFA rights)
2nd 2027
Not sure if Leafs need to add to it but good trade for both. Leafs start fresh with different goalie tandem now that Woll is gone as well.
Stolarz can backup Walsteadt at half the price. You r getting a good young forward in Robertson that can replace the aging forwards that will be ufas. Plus a 2nd rd pick in next year's draft.
16 Jun 2026 11:30:16
One of trade idea.
Toronto acquires Anthony Beauvillier in exchange for Nick Robertson (RFA) and Dakota Joshua. No draft picks are included in the trade.
16 Jun 2026 12:15:19
Except for some cap savings I’m not sure what this accomplishes!
And the Leafs have enough 5.11 183 pound forwards.
16 Jun 2026 14:36:05
Why would the Leafs have to give up two guys for Beauvillier? Maybe I am missing something, but what does he bring that either Robertson or Joshua on their own don't or can't bring?
17 Jun 2026 00:01:16
When Healthy Joshua is a more impactful player that Beauvillier by himself without Robertson in the deal. I would love to see Joshua 100 percent healthy without the cancer from 2 years ago and the lacerated kidney fro this past December. He has more to show us than we have seen.
17 Jun 2026 00:23:28
You must have watched different games than me suffering
Joshua is about as useless as they come
17 Jun 2026 13:56:35
Well considering how Joshua was misused with Roy and Lorentz. I think he had a pretty good year being all things considered. He started to hit his stride somewhat at beginning of December with 4 goals in 7 games. Then hurt his back but still toughed it out for 6 games and then got the hit against the boards that lacerated his kidney.
He played 55 games, 49 of them healthy, mostly on 4th line and sometimes 3rd line. Still led the team with 195 hits (25) in the league.
He still managed 10 goals, 18 points in a misused spot. That’s not useless. Beauvillier played top 6 in Washington and still only managed 28 points and less than half of Joshua’s hits 93 but in 82 games.
If Matthews stays I would like to see Knies on his left and Joshua on his right. There will be a lot pucks knocked loose with those wingers for Matthews to pounce on. It would be different style line for Matthews but could let him also turn more playmaker a bit too.
17 Jun 2026 21:57:42
lol
Joshua?
Is he a relative Suffering?
17 Jun 2026 22:57:19
Nope just being honest. Everyone says we need to be a hitting team, so here is a trade that sends away our top hitter for a lightweight that scores less than 30 points as a top 6 forward. Makes no sense and to add Robertson as well? Rediculous trade. Hey is he is healthy and utilized right and can't perform then yes he needs to be traded of buried on the 4th line.
But he has not had a full season to prove what he can do. He showed in Vancouver he is capable in a full season of being a productive player. Not just regular season but in Playoffs as well.
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