16 Jun 2026 18:51:57
I must be missing something with the Leafs trade. Woll and Benoit for Ersson, Andrae and a 3rd. Are they planning on flipping Ersson? Andrae is definitely not the missing piece to this D. They want the cap space for something bigger?
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16 Jun 2026 17:59:48
To Tor
Gustafson
To Minny
Stolarz
Robertson (RFA rights)
2nd 2027
Not sure if Leafs need to add to it but good trade for both. Leafs start fresh with different goalie tandem now that Woll is gone as well.
Stolarz can backup Walsteadt at half the price. You r getting a good young forward in Robertson that can replace the aging forwards that will be ufas. Plus a 2nd rd pick in next year's draft.
16 Jun 2026 11:30:16
One of trade idea.
Toronto acquires Anthony Beauvillier in exchange for Nick Robertson (RFA) and Dakota Joshua. No draft picks are included in the trade.
16 Jun 2026 12:15:19
Except for some cap savings I’m not sure what this accomplishes!
And the Leafs have enough 5.11 183 pound forwards.
16 Jun 2026 14:36:05
Why would the Leafs have to give up two guys for Beauvillier? Maybe I am missing something, but what does he bring that either Robertson or Joshua on their own don't or can't bring?
16 Jun 2026 03:19:15
- Robertson to Dallas for Bourque
- Maccelli to Winnipeg for Barron and 5th
- Stolarz and Carlo for McTavish and Mintyukov
- Rielly to Utah for Hayton
- Draft McKenna
- Try and sign Greer, Raddysh, McMann
23-34-McKenna
53-Hayton -88
McMann -91-Bourque
Greer-Barron-Quillan
Spare- Groulx, Joshua, Lorentz
McCabe Raddysh
OEL Tanev
Mintyukov Danford
Spare Benoit,Villeneuve
Woll
Hildeby
Akhtyamov
16 Jun 2026 08:41:55
You genuinely think you get that return for Stolarz and Carlo? 😂😂😂
16 Jun 2026 12:47:07
Or any of those returns? And play a teenage rookie on his wrong wing?
16 Jun 2026 14:17:22
Maybe the Winnipeg deal is close. But the others are in the Leafs favour imo. If Anaheim wants to move MacT and his contract, Stolarz and Carlo might interest them, but can't see them adding Minty.
16 Jun 2026 15:18:19
ByGully, You r seriously 🥴🤣🤣.
15 Jun 2026 18:10:52
Tor: Maccelli
MTL: Dach
This is simple move. Switching a left handed player to a right. Both are mid 20s RFAs. Dach hits and is an energy guy that's not overly expensive wildcard that we can use in our bottom 6 right side.
15 Jun 2026 20:32:02
Have always liked Dach but has had trouble staying healthy.
But I’d do the deal.
15 Jun 2026 21:22:27
Ya, this is a tough one for me only because we saw flashes of skill towards the end of last season and with new coaching coming in he may actually have a role but as you said Dach has that truculent ability and he looked ok in the playoffs. Good post, man.
15 Jun 2026 23:53:44
Real needle mover.
Injury prone.
Inconsistent.
What’s the attraction to Dach?
Not understanding it...
16 Jun 2026 14:27:44
Dach is a guy that has never been able to put it all together. Injuries may have been a factor for not getting on a roll of any kind. He is fairly responsible defensively, but not enough that coaches will use him on the PK. If you want him at C, he's brutal on the dot. Nothing so far indicates he will help offence.
All depends on what else the Leafs do I guess if I would want to do this deal. They may need to move both Robertson and Maccelli if they are drafting McKenna and keeping Cowan. Need some size coming back, but I would probably target someone other than Dach.
16 Jun 2026 15:18:58
No thanks. Next
15 Jun 2026 16:21:01
I know some will say about this post, stop beating a dead horse or he isn't here anymore so who cares. Well, when it comes to Marner, he basically blamed Toronto(Team, fans, etc) for his lack of playoff success. He played, and is still trying to play the victim.
Now that the Cup has been handed to the team that ironically Marner blocked a trade to last season, which I guess could be some poetic justice, I took a little deeper dive into his playoff performance. Most probably know he finished the playoffs leading the NHL in points with 29(10/19) and was a +11. Looks like a great performance, but was he clutch?
He was often criticized for his lack of production in clutch games (5-7). How did Marner do this year in this category.
Against Utah
Game 5 1 assist, 2 sog.
Game 6 Marner comes alive in that series and helps clinch the series with a 2 goal 1 assist, 7 sog performance. Great game.
Anaheim
game 5 o points 1 sog
Game 6 1 goal 1 assist 1 sog Another good performance.
Colorado.
There was no game 5 as Vegas swept the series, but in game 4, the clinching game, Marner went pointless with 2 sog.
The finals against Carolina
Game 5 Pointless 1 sog
Game 6 Pointless 3 sog
Notable that in game 4 when Vegas had a chance to go ahead 3 games to 1. Marner had 1 assist and 0 shots on goal. He was also a -5 in the final 3 games combined.
Total 6 games of 5-7 with 3 goals and 3 assists. A point per game seems pretty good, but 3 games he was held pointless. If we add the clinching game against Colorado he had 6 points in 7 games, but held pointless in 4 of the 7.
Another interesting fact is how well Marner did when Vegas basically blew out the opponent. There were 3 games where Vegas won by 4 goals. Marner had 6 goals and 3 assists with 13 sog combined. Those 3 games accounted for almost 1/3 of his playoff points where he averaged 3 points per game. In thise 3 games were also his only game winning goals. 3 great games by him and 2 were series clinching games. He was also held pointless with only 13 total shots on goal in 7 of the 22 games. Almost 1/3 of his games he was held pointless. That means his 29 points were all in the other 15 games obviously. Almost 2 points per game, which are great totals. Yet, no game winning goals in tight games.
For me, Marner had a good playoffs, and obviously he was not the reason they didn't win the cup, just like in Toronto. But hard to conclude that he was clutch when he went pointless in 4 of the 7 games that were in the clutch category. In Toronto, Marner went a point per game or better in 4 of 9 series. One other he had 4 points in 5 games. He tallied 52 points in 60 playoff games in Toronto and when you consider that he wasn't in his prime for most of it, those are very good numbers. But it was never his total points he was really being criticized for. It was lack of production in the clutch games. He had 3 good clutch games this time, but held pointless in 4. Personally, I wouldn't call that a clutch player, but I am sure there will be defenders. Was he better this time? Yes. Should he now be considered a great playoff performer who shows up when it really matters? No.
15 Jun 2026 17:14:18
All I will say is. He had a great playoff run no matter how you slice and dice it. They lost to the most balanced lineup in the NHL. You need to give it a rest. It’s consuming you to the point of an obsession. If a hockey player consumes you to this point … Man I hope you never go through a tough relationship of marriage breakup.
Let’s focus on the season ahead and what we have and need to get not on a player we don’t have. Hope that by unloading your week goes well. Cheers.
15 Jun 2026 18:20:10
I do find it slightly funny that he blocked that trade to Carolina who ultimately best his new team to win the cup. But at the time, he was thinking if he could win a cup in Toronto before heading out of town, he'd be a legend forever. Or maybe he doesn't leave at all.
But just thinking if that trade did happen, he'd be on the Canes and maybe a Cup champ, Leafs would have Rantanen and a more balanced offense, (albeit less cap flexibility) and Dallas would still have Stankoven and not be in their cap issue troubles they are currently in.
Just never know how it's going to work out... that's why you need to play the games.
I do wonder though if the Leafs players watched that game last night and saw a team win the cup that really played for eachother, was $12M under the cap and just stuck with it year after year even when they got beat in previous years. Should be some good lessons for especially the Leafs leadership group to stop crying about stuff and just get to work. And boy oh boy, I wish we had a coach like Rod!
15 Jun 2026 19:06:41
GMrick. It was interesting the way it played out. Good point on Dallas as well.
15 Jun 2026 19:44:15
Suffering it's not consuming me by any means. What a wild thing to suggest. You see what I wrote as some kind of unloading?lol This is a prop and debate forum after all. It interests me to see how it played out considering how he left and the things he said. Do I think it karma that he lost in the finals and was invisible basically in games 5 and 6. Yes. He played the victim and then he didn't step up in the end. He insinuates he isn't an issue, but it's happened on two teams now, so can't be just everyone else.
When I do post something about Marner, which is actually not really often at all, you come on defending him right away and then suggest I am either weak minded or have mental issues or something. Seriously? What are you, like 15? You defend him constantly no matter what, even though, as you say he is gone so give it a rest. How is what you do not an obsession with defending the guy? You do it every time.
Plus, you literally know nothing about me, my life etc. Maybe take a good look at yourself before predicting my personal life considering you obviously feel the need to take shots at me on almost every opinion post I make.
When I do try and debate with you, you always go to insults. But I'm the one who has the issues and trouble letting go? That makes sense to you, I guess. Plus I wasn't the one who was going to quit the site over likes on their posts, but your worried about ME not being able to handle a breakup. Ok, thanks for the concern.
In my post on Marner, I put out facts and followed with my opinion based on those facts. I actually praised him as well (which you gloss over).
You just don't like facts or opinions that don't highlight Marner, so you take your little cheap shots. Ironically, what your doing, is known as rhetorical weakness. Anyhow, despite what you may think, your cheap shots don't send me into some kind of spiral. If you want the truth, generally I just kind of sigh a bit, as I expect it from you and it's just another eye roll moment. That doesn't mean I won't respond to your post. I'd prefer we just debate hockey, but you gotta do you, so whatever.
15 Jun 2026 21:32:05
We also let his cap hit go, which was a huge selling point from the Leafs perspective, unfortunately. Tre spent it on crap instead of what we needed. Maybe it wasn’t available. I loved Marner, but I’m anxious to see where we spend what we gained from him walking.
15 Jun 2026 23:46:36
Watched Marner doing his dipsy doodling and not going in corners and trademark perimeter play in games 5 and 6.
Yeah don’t miss him at all.
Like someone said earlier, the incompetent tredeadthing replaced him with 3 stooges in Roy, Joshua and Maccelli, who contributed nothing, which only emphasized the absence of Marner.
15 Jun 2026 23:55:31
My last comment in regards to this matter. Will stick strictly to comments about trades in any posts with you. I find it very odd that you acccuse Randy Sears or Insulting you. Which in that particular post did not see a insult. Not because I mention you go on the Mitch Marner Rants and you never seem to ever just move on from the situation. I compare it to someone going through relationship breakups I am insulting you? It is a little odd you make the huge long posts pointing out his faults.
You said I don't know anything about you. Well truthfully, what do you know personally about Marner to point out so many character flaws that you have pointed out.? I know you will comment just to get the last word in as Randy Sears pointed out earlier. It will be the last word as I am tired of wasting words with you. Probably a mutual feeling. Have a good night.
16 Jun 2026 15:19:54
No one cares about Marner. Move on. He didn’t get his ring and never will.
15 Jun 2026 12:58:45
The Avs are in deep trouble with their cap! Have under $3m and only 17 players on NHL contract.
Let’s help them by sending Carlo, Benoit, Maccelli and Robertson. If they sign Maccelli at $4.5 and Robertson, that’s a total of $11.8m.
They send us Necas @ $11.5 and Malinski @ $4.75.
Avs get 2 D to add to only 4 under contract and get a little bit of offence back in Maccelli and Robertson (last year 30g and 41a versus Necas @ 32g and 68a).
Yeah it’s one-way I know but the Avs Must do something crazy.
15 Jun 2026 19:08:06
Not sure if they will go that drastic or not. Let's say this happened. Do you now trade Nylander for help elsewhere, like D?
15 Jun 2026 20:30:50
Not sure either!
Getting Necas certainly gives us a big opportunity to target a top 2-way Dman.
Send Nylander to NJD for Mercer, Nemec and Anton Silayev.
OR LAK for Laferrière and Clarke.
15 Jun 2026 21:44:52
So in the end, Carlo, Benoit, Maccelli and Robertson out. Necas, Malinski, Mercer, Nemec and Silayev in. Interesting for sure.
15 Jun 2026 21:58:53
No, we don’t trade Nylander. I think we’d have to start with Cowen and their 1st back. But if you trade Nylander there will be a ripple effect with baby Matthews and a more offensive philosophy next year with a new staff.
Nylander, Knies and Matthews are untouchable. Use anyone else other than our 1st overall to beef up the defense. OEL is really the only d-man I’d consider keeping, but ya everything else can go to get a solid 6 d-man corp.
15 Jun 2026 22:10:44
And what are you paying Robertson in all of this??
16 Jun 2026 15:29:56
Makes absolutely no sense. They will get rid of Lehkonen, Nichuskin, Colton, Kadri b4 Necas. They r keeping their signed d. They r heavy on left handed players not right. Definitely not trading their signed d men.
14 Jun 2026 20:27:31
TOR
- 20th overall
- Mario Ferraro
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SJ
- Morgan Rielly
I'm not optimistic we get Raddysh or Andersson this offseason. I know Ferraro's a lefty, but I still think he'd be a good add.
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TOR
- 1st round pick (Carlo trade)
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BOS
- 20th overall
- COL's 2027 1st (conditional)
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Tell BOS they can have the COL 1st rounder next year on condition that if the Leafs' are crap next year and the top-10 protection kicks in for the '27 1st, then PHI's pick defers to an unprotected '28 1st. So BOS would get additional compensation for missing out on an unprotected 1st in '28, as we'll specify to them that we aren't giving thm this pick in '27 if it's top 10.
14 Jun 2026 21:57:57
Ferraro is UFA. Don’t need to trade for him.
14 Jun 2026 23:42:20
And if Ferraro was not a UFA (who will probably re-sign with San Jose) they would not give us him and the 20th overall for Reilly. That would be such an overpay for him. As far as the Boston trade. We are in no position to tell them what they can and can't have, in any trade with us no matter how fictional it might be.
They would not agree to any terms in regards to protection if we really wanted that pick back from them.
16 Jun 2026 03:05:11
Source that Ferraro is likely to re-sign?
Reports are that contract talks have broke down and he is likely to test the market.
14 Jun 2026 19:31:03
Morgan Rielly
Dakota Mermis
To the San Jose Sharks For
Pick #62
5th Round Draft Pick in 2027
Pick #60
Pick #158
To The Florida Panthers For
Pick #48
Pick #69
To The Utah Mammoth for
Pick #96
4th Round Draft Pick in 2027
Draft
#48 - Mattias Vanhanen
#62 - Ethan MacKenzie
#96 - Victor Plante
We gain good prospects and extra 4th and 5th Round Picks in 2027 that we can turn around and trade those for our retool - we also get rid of the Rielly contract, which gives us 7.5M for our retool as well!
15 Jun 2026 00:52:32
The 5th-Round Pick in the Rielly trade could also be a position player to fill the 3rd-Line Centre gap, such as Ty Dellandrea.
14 Jun 2026 02:08:24
Utah
Robertson
Quillan
Carlo
Leafs
Durzi
McBain
13 Jun 2026 17:10:17
Reilly, Danford and Avs first next year to Sharks.
2nd overall this year to Toronto.
13 Jun 2026 17:16:26
Nice one Bob. I think it seems fair and they need D. We would have to draft a D with one of those picks though since we gave our only D prospect away.
13 Jun 2026 18:04:35
As much as I would like that second overall pick I would hate giving up Danford…
Steady, not flashy he is.
Rielly and the Avs pick won’t get it done so I’m suggesting we add in Carlo.
We get back that sweet pick and draft Reid.
Sign Ferraro.
McCabe Tanev.
OEL Reid.
Ferraro Danford.
14 Jun 2026 01:09:00
Sorry to say but Tanev will not be playing next year.
He will end up going the same path as Muzzin, and will not risk his health.
I think Toronto could make the trade this way,
Rielly, Villeneuve, 1st (Col) in 2027
For
2nd Overall pick.
14 Jun 2026 02:28:04
Park gardens…. re: Tanev
Despite the severity of the core muscle surgery, the Maple Leafs have reported that the procedure went smoothly. He is expected to make a full recovery and be a full participant in training camp ahead of the 2026-2027 NHL season.
14 Jun 2026 15:41:08
I’d do this. Draft McKenna and Stenberg and find a way to trade for Nemec to replace Danford. Sign Ferraro.
14 Jun 2026 18:33:06
CKPS, just glad you’re not GM or we would have another great regular season team but again no defence all forwards.
14 Jun 2026 19:07:37
How do you figure? Losing Reilly and getting Ferraro. Get Tanev back. Trade for Nemec. Works out well.
15 Jun 2026 00:15:43
What you gonna have to give up to get Nemec? Every team is after Ferraro too I’m sure. Only chance of getting a D is an overpay. If you have the first two picks and don’t get a D out of it, this team is going nowhere.
15 Jun 2026 12:11:39
I would hate to give up Danford and not even sure if that package gets us the 2nd overall because that Reilly's contract is still a tough one to take.
That said….. if it did transpire and we took McKenna and Stenberg #1 and #2. The next move could be a straight up Knies for Faber trade. Pretty even cap exchange and both with no trade protection.
Then we give Either Villeneuve of Chadwick the spot Danford would have had. Neither of them are slouches. They are both playing very good hockey.
Bottom line…. We get a 23 year old stud defenceman to quarterback us for 7 to 9 years. We lose one forward and get 2 top ranked forwards one (Stenberg) who is capable of being a centreman.
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