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29 Feb 2024 14:41:37
Leafs send 1st, Benoit, Robertson, Niemela to Kraken for Larsson and Borgen with Seattle eating 50% on both.

Rielly, Larsson
Brodie, Lilygren
McCabe, Borgen
Gio, Timmins.

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29 Feb 2024 16:35:12
If you r giving away your 1st rd it’s not for these two guys.

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29 Feb 2024 14:04:49
Clb
Robertson $.797M

Tor
Peeke $2.75M
Svozil ELC

Clb moves on from Peeke while getting a possible point producer in Robertson.

Leafs get a big, physical RD and a really good LD prospect as well.

Then

Ana
2024 3rd

Tor
Jones $1.3M

Anaheim picks up a 3rd for a guy who is a pending RFA only one year away from UFA.

Leafs get a big heavy playing 3rd/4th liner.

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29 Feb 2024 03:43:15
Leafs - Stars

Nick Robertson to Dallas
Ty Dellandrea to Toronto

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29 Feb 2024 14:08:46
Dallas is in win mode and my guess is that if they pick up a forward, it's a vet. I don't think they would have an interest in swapping young players right now.

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29 Feb 2024 01:53:22
Hopefully the Tanev to Dallas trade doesn't cause a knee jerk reaction, leading to Treliving giving up valuable assets to acquire Dumba.
Dumba is sporting an abysmal -14 (worst on his team) and has reportedly been Coyotes weakest defender this season.
Trading for Dumba would be akin to signing Klingberg in my opinion.
Matt Roy, Sean Walker or Will Borgen would all be better choices than Dumba.

My dream is for Leafs to acquire Adam Larsson.

To Leafs: Adam Larsson

To Seattle: 2024 - 1st, 2024 - 3rd, Topi Niemala

If necessary to complete the deal Leafs could include Seattles choice of one of; Tverberg, Voit, Hirvonen, Lisowsky or Grebyonkin
Cap balancing would need to be done.

Reilly - Larsson
Benoit - MCCabe
Brodie - Liljegren
Giordano

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29 Feb 2024 02:48:42
I wouldn't give up Topi right now. Man he looks good in the A.

My thoughts are well known though, I'd do almost nothing. Maybe a minor deal for someone like Peeke.

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29 Feb 2024 04:08:01
I do like Larsson maybe leafs could offer a different prospect than niemala to get a deal done.

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29 Feb 2024 13:31:48
I personally think Niemela if makes the show, he would be equivalent to Lily. I don’t have a problem letting him go for Larson (with term) plus a 1st in a weak draft.

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29 Feb 2024 14:11:22
If Seattle is looking at getting younger, they may do it. Cap as you said, is obviously an issue for the Leafs.

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29 Feb 2024 14:58:38
I really like Larsson, not huge on giving up Nimiela though. Our defense has consistently been thin and he is our best D Prospect.

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29 Feb 2024 16:37:55
Not giving up 1st for Larson or Nem.

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29 Feb 2024 00:24:30
To LA
Samsonov $3.55M UFA

To Toronto
Roy $3.15M UFA

LA needs a goalie, we need a top 4RHD.

LA had Doughty & Clarke on the right side & were probably not going to re-sign Roy.

Leafs are going to gamble on Woll (very limited NHL experience & injury prone) & Jones. It's a big risk, but hopefully we can re-sign Roy moving forward.

Who needs to add?

Thoughts?

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29 Feb 2024 01:41:52
I proposed this exact trade two weeks ago.
I like the idea a lot.
Samsonov in a less pressure filled environment (Toronto vs LA) might be the answer to Kings goaltending woes and Matt Roy does not appear to be a candidate to be resigned this summer.
What’s to lose?
Win/ Win for both teams.

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29 Feb 2024 02:49:24
You thunk Sammy has that kind of value?

I find it so difficult to evaluate goalies (as I'm sure we all do) .

I'd make this trade if it was available.

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29 Feb 2024 13:33:23
I don’t see LA giving up one of their top D in a playoff run with no D coming back.

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29 Feb 2024 14:21:53
I still don't understand the whole LA is desperate for a goalie thing. They have the 2nd least goals given up in the whole Western Conference. Their biggest problem is a lack of scoring, which is why they are frustrated with Kaliyev's lack of finish.
Roy is a 21+ min a night D-man that penalty kills. I can't see the Kings wanting to move him for Sammy.

How about this for a blockbuster

Kings
Liljegren $1.4M
Robertson $.797M
Jarnkrok $2.1M

Leafs
Roy $3.15M (6X$5.5M extension in place) .
Kaliyev $.894M.

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28 Feb 2024 22:37:28
Hey Leafs fans it’s truly time for the Leafs to make a move for top physical RD and and third line winger. Here are two trades that work


Leafs. Savard
Habs. Timmons Robertson 3rd isles

Savard checks all the box’s that what is needed on the blue line. The guy has won a cup

Leafs. Rutta and Duclair ( retain 50% of Duclair cap)
Sharks Lilly holmbreg 1st and 5th Canucks

Leafs get another 2players that check every box. That need for playoffs.

Plus both RD have term

Knies AM MM
Burtuzzi Domi Willy
Duclair JT Jornkork
Mc Mann Kampf Reeves
Gregor

Reilly Savard
Brodie Rutta
Beniont McCabe

Sam
Woll
Jones

This team is now built for a deep run in playoffs.

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29 Feb 2024 00:29:44
Please!
No more 33 year old defensemen!

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29 Feb 2024 00:36:13
A 1st, Liljegren, Holmberg and a 5th for a 3rd pairing defenseman and a 3rd line LW?
Surely not!

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29 Feb 2024 00:36:25
Huge overpay to Sharks.

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29 Feb 2024 01:18:39
Savard didn’t win the Cup the team he played for won a Cup.
Don’t understand how that is a significant factor.

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28 Feb 2024 20:14:56
Seattle Trades
Larsson*
6th Round Pick 2024

Toronto Trades
Timmons
Hildeby (AHL)
Grebyonkin (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

*Kraken retain 50% of Larsson's remaining contract.



Thoughts ?

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28 Feb 2024 22:09:05
I don't think Seattle wants a goalie, as touted as hildeby seems, they have some good depth with grubauer, daccord, and dreiger.

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29 Feb 2024 00:38:48
Grubauer has been awful since Ron Francis signed him, Dreiger is in the AHL (that’s how highly Seattle thinks of him) and Hildeby has a higher ceiling than Dacord.
I would think Seattle would love to have a young goaltender with the upside of Hildeby.

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28 Feb 2024 18:37:58
Tor: Robertson 1st abruzzese 5th
Nsh: trenin (50%) schenn

Add what you need to make it work but I think the market for Dmen isn't all that great I thought tree should of brought schenn back he fits what this team is trying to do and he is the best partner Reilly has ever had this move allows Toronto to role three parings trenin adds size and depth Robertson to me has potential but he's not a fit

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28 Feb 2024 19:25:26
Biggest issue with Schenn is the contract. I wouldn't have signed him for that either.

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28 Feb 2024 19:36:22
Why I don’t agree is cause Predators are a playoff team and won’t give up these players for futures. They would be looking for players that would make them better for a playoff push.

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28 Feb 2024 19:36:30
Shenn aav is way too high nty.

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28 Feb 2024 19:41:12
The salaries don’t work.

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28 Feb 2024 22:18:45
Everyone complaining about his cap hit please tell me would you rather have 40 year old gio playing with Reilly or a guy who is 34 and useful let’s not forget torontos top target is Tanev who makes double and is the same age.

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29 Feb 2024 00:47:58
Schenn: $2.75 x 2 more years
Trenin: $1.7 UFA
Total: $4.45

Who would the Leafs be sending back to match those salaries as we know they do not have the cap space to absorb them?


Trenin is a 3rd line LW/ C and Schenn (though he plays well with Reilly) is a 34 year old defenseman and we already have a 40 year old Giordano and a 33 year old Brodie.
I would prefer Leafs use those assets on a younger defenseman (Will Borgen, Matt Roy, Sean Walker)

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28 Feb 2024 05:28:42
T.J. Brodie for a 5th Round pick to the Flyers. No salary retention

Maple Leafs - Predators

Leafs

Jusse Saros
Jeremy Lauzon
Yakov Trenin

Predators

1st Rd pick in 2024
3rd Rd pick in 2024
Timothy Lilejgren
Nick Robertson
Alex Steeves
Calle Jarnkrok
Topi Niemela

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28 Feb 2024 09:47:38
Do it.

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28 Feb 2024 09:55:38
You’ll be making your D weaker and need to make another deal for a D. Samsonov could go in the deal. Preds would want Minten or Cowan.

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28 Feb 2024 12:27:46
Why the goalie trades? Please explain? How good does Woll and Sammy have to be to get a real look from fans? Woll has potential to be as good as Saros if developed properly. Getting 15 games in a year behind Saros is not helping his development or confidence. Give these two a chance, if we ever get some freaking defence, it will only make these two look better.

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28 Feb 2024 14:26:01
Leafs need someone as good as Sarros now. Not someday. Woll has big potential no doubt. Sarros gives them a better chance to win now, and that’s indisputable.

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28 Feb 2024 17:19:44
No they need Defence now and Woll will look like Sarros. He was lights out before the injury. Now they are playing better D and should be acquiring a RHD (hopefully) . This should be their net with D and a depth F on their radar.

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29 Feb 2024 01:04:23
You have a goaltender coming in (Saros) but no goaltender going out so Leafs end up with Saros, Woll, Samsonov and Jones.
Leafs can put Jones on waivers and probably lose him but that still leaves them carrying 3 goaltenders?
With Brodie playing his natural left side and Liljegren playing the right they have been Leafs top defensive pairing lately.
A 1st, a 3rd plus Niemala removes 3 of Leafs top 5 assets.
You are making a trade with Lauzon for Liljegren when Lauzon is another LHD while Liljegren is Leafs only RHD plus adding Leafs best defensive prospect in Niemala who also happens to be a RHD.
This trade leaves the Leafs with only LHD no RHD.
Reilly, MCCabe, Benoit, Lauzon, Giordano, Lagesson
Probably not a good idea?
Leafs are trading Jarnkrok a RW when they are already short a true RW in their bottom 6 (I do not consider Reaves a true NHL, RW) .
This trade would leave only Marner and Nylander as right wings for the Leafs yet having an abundance of left shooting players in Knies, Bertuzzi, Domi, McMann, Trenin, Gregor, Steeves?

It is not that I don’t like the targets but I feel this trade unbalances the Leafs more than they already are!

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28 Feb 2024 04:05:08
Leafs trade: Brodie, Jarnkrok, Robertson, Niemela, Minten, 1st rd pick.

Calgary trades: Mackenzie Weeger, Blake Coleman 25% retained.

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28 Feb 2024 02:19:25
Toronto trades Liljegren, Jarnkroc and 5th
To
Columbus for Peeke and Jake Bean (50 percent retained on Bean)

Right side bigger the tougher

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28 Feb 2024 19:37:27
You need to keep your right shot d not give it away for one.

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28 Feb 2024 20:52:43
Peeke sucks .

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29 Feb 2024 01:07:47
Liljegren is a better defenseman than Peeke or Bean and still improving.

Trading Jarnkrok leaves the Leafs with only Marner and Nylander on RW and no right wingers in the bottom 6 (unless you count Reaves as an NHL caliber player) .

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