Leafs Trade Rumors

04 Apr 2020 17:38:03
Tor: Andersen
Cgy: Anderson
( keep in mind my offer a year and a half 2 years ago that got roasted was Andersen for smith and tkachuk. Saying Toronto overpaid.


Tor: 2021 3rd b prospect
Van: demko

Tor: marner
Chi: nylander, debrincat 2021 1st

Tor: kapanen johnsson dermott
Edm: bouchard and Larsson.

Leaf lineup

Nylander Matthews nylander
Hyman tavares debrincat
Micheyev spezza kerfoot
Engvall goat brooks

Reilly Larson
Muzzin holl
Sandin Anderson

Lily bouchard in the waiting room.

Run the demko campbell combo and run who is playing hot.

This lineup looks a little more well rounded to me. We r a little riskier in net but I'm not an Andersen fan anyways. Our defence looks a lot better and we lose 3 wingers and bring in 2. We should have a little more play with the cap after this as well.

04 Apr 2020 18:05:56
I can see why you were roasted back then. Side note on garbage ideas and post they seem to stand the test of time! Garbage back then and they are garbage now. Thanks for the read.

04 Apr 2020 18:34:24
Andersen for Smith and Tkachuk. That would have been sweet. I don't know if I roasted you over that one or not. I hope not. But if that deal went through it would have been the steal of the decade.

Anderson is UFA, which is the main reason I don't think you would get a roster player like Andersson from Calgary. Andersson is a good young defenseman that Calgary has locked up for quite a while yet as his contract expires RFA status.

They also have a whopping four UFA defensemen this year. I don't expect any of them will be returning. Forbort and Gustafsson were only brought in as injury replacement, and Brodie and Harmonic were on the block a year and not expected to come back already.

Maybe if you added Dermott or something and took another piece back it would have more appeal for them. I'm not sure.

I guess the other question is, do they really need a goalie? Talbot needs re-signing, but he is a lot cheaper than Andersen. And Rittich still has a year left. Calgary only has $5.5 invested in their goalies. That's pretty sweet considering they have both been performing pretty good.

04 Apr 2020 19:26:56
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning HoundDog? You seem to be in a surly mood today? Quarantine starting to get to you. Lol.

I like this site more than any of the other sites that I go one simply because this site has a good crew of regular contributors. We have our differences, but for the most part there isn't a lot of trolls on here just calling each other Homers. Every now and then we get a drink or two from the main site on here. But that's because the main page forum is so dead. Gee I wonder why? This site gets A LOT more posts on a daily basis than the main page, and there is good reason for it.

04 Apr 2020 20:44:11
Closing the pot shops. LHD is in full panic now lol.

04 Apr 2020 05:39:16
Tor gets
Hossa LW/RW LTIR
Crouse LW

Arizona gets
Bracco RW
Gauthier C

Tor gets
Demko G

Vancouver gets
Stotts C
Rasenan D
Boothillier G

Toronto signs Hamonic 3 years 4 million per year
Toronto signs Gudas 3 years 3.5 million per year

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Nylander
Kerfoot/Tavares/Marner
Johnsson/Spezza/Kapanen
Crouse/Engvall/Mikheyev
Extra: Robertson & Korshkov

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Hamonic
Muzzin/Dermot
Sandin/Gudas
Extras: Holl & Rosen

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg
Extra: Demko

04 Apr 2020 16:38:10
If Vancouver re-signs Markstrom, then Demko could be on the block. I don't see how they can keep both on the team and make the both happy. Maybe for a year, but then one of them would be demanding a trade.

04 Apr 2020 18:48:36
I forgot the Leafs even drafted Bouthillier. He isn't working out so hot in junior though. I don't think he has much rubbish at making the NHL. But goalies are so unpredictable. You never know exactly what you have with them. For all we know, he could be our Binnington just waiting for his chance.

Someone posted on here not too long ago that Leafs should think about drafting a top goalie prospect with our earliest 2nd round pick we have this year. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. It looks like Dubas has his heart set on re-signing Andersen, which would pretty much take him to the end of his career. So we need to draft and develop a replacement for him starting now. Goalies take a lot longer to develop than any other position. If we draft a goalie this year, it could easily be five years before he is in the NHL. What your thought on that one HoundDog?

03 Apr 2020 12:58:36
Tor: marner Engvall
Min: Dumba greenway 1st 2020

So here's what I've been thinking about at some point the leafs will have to move one of these big contracts and the fact is I don't think at the price point there's not really a market for him and Matthews is the face of the franchise and should be kept as long as possible. But what I was thinking about most is look at these three teams

Boston Tampa Colorado

What these team have in common is that they all moved big named player from their club and they were able to balance their rosters and build true contenders the players are Seguin Drouin and Duchene I think the leafs need to go this route as well. What's everyone's opinion on this

03 Apr 2020 16:53:05
If we go back a few years Boston has traded away a few talents in order to spread the wealth. What Boston also has that we do not though, is the culture of everyone taking a pay cut for a better team. McAvoy said publicly at one point that Bergeron and pastrnak both told him everyone takes less and they always compete. Compare what Boston one line does to Toronto it seems even. Then you compare what Marchand, Bergeron and Pastrnak make to Mathews, Marner, Tavares and it seems extremely lopaided.

03 Apr 2020 17:50:19
For sure but one way that may change that (probably not) is to maybe make a trade like this and show these guys coming up that you maybe a talented player but we can still trade you.

03 Apr 2020 18:12:29
I agree. Trading Nylander would have made a line in the Sand. Everyone knows I am a big fan of Nylander but I would rather have traded Nylander and had Marner at 7 or 8 where he should be.

03 Apr 2020 19:31:52
You know what, you're absolutely right. And not just these teams either. Chicago traded away a few guys like Byfuglien and Saad over the years and were able to keep winning. Edmonton traded away Gretzky and won the cup again still. It is what it is. Most players do get traded. And even though Dubas promised Nylander he wouldn't get traded, he never made the same promise to Marner or Matthews. The more I think about it, the more I think one of them will go. We can't possibly afford to keep the team together now that the cap might barely go up the next two years. Do we lose Andersen and Reilly both or one of our high priced forwards?

03 Apr 2020 21:17:33
ok. so to start I like the return from the Wild. and I agree that Marner should be the one to go as he is making the bigger cap hit and he and Nylander are similar style players. problem is I don't think the Wild go for this based on what the media told us about them wanting a centre…. and I think Nylander would be the guy they would prefer. both from a position standpoint and cap price. Dubas made 2 big mistakes that could have avoided this issue. not signing Tavares is the 1st one. and like LeafsLife said. had he strong armed Nylander by either trading him or having him hold out. the others might have fell in line with lower caps (Mathews and Marner)

03 Apr 2020 21:25:38
Or do we guy the depth?

I bet Dubas guts the depth.

03 Apr 2020 22:30:49
I'm willing to bet he guys the bottom 6 as well. Could be Kappy, Johnson and Kerfoot gone soon.

They wanted a 1C for Brodin or Dumba. Clearly not one else agreed so they make take less.

04 Apr 2020 00:38:26
Even if he guts the depth though, he has to bring in replacements. So how much does he really save by trading a few guys making $3M each and bringing in guys at league minimum? If he trades the whole trio of Johnsson, Kapanen, Kerfoot and replaces them with guys earning league minimum, that's only about $6.5M saved. That's only about enough to cover Reilly and Andersen's raise. He still has to deal with the other guys coming off their elc the following year (Sandin, Liljegren), plus Hyman's new deal. Is the cap going to go up enough to cover their raises after?

04 Apr 2020 04:08:54
As the cap goes up Sandin and Liljigren will want more as well. Dubas kind of backed himself into a corner here. It's either Marner or Nylander+ Kapanen and replace them with league min guys.

03 Apr 2020 00:56:29
How about this for an idea,assuming there is a compliance buyout and Devils could have 2 candidates...Subban & Schneider..

Leafs trade:
Kerfoot
something else maybe

for:
Zacha & Schneider

Leafs could buyout Schneider....then sign Demelo...we could then maybe trade Andersen to the Hawks who will need a goalie next year as they have none signed for Murphy

D looks like this
Rielly/Murphy
Muzzin/Holl
Sandin/Demelo/Liljegran

we could then try to sign Lehner or trade for Murray in Pittsburg as they don't need him there with the 2 young kids

03 Apr 2020 02:13:42
I like your thinking. Even if not these targets it's a good thought. Use cash at Dubas disposal to buyout others for payment. Not sure how compliance buyout will work though. Have to wait and see on that end.

03 Apr 2020 04:05:33
How about this for an answer No! Lol!

03 Apr 2020 19:36:51
I see what you're getting at. We don't really have anyone to buy out, so if someone wants to pay us to buy out their player, that's not a bad idea. It would be similar to the Washington/ Colorado deal a few years back where Colorado got Grubauer for taking on Orpik's contract. Or what the Leafs did this year with Marleau. It's a great idea. I like it a lot. Maybe not this exact trade like what you have here, but something along those lines would work. It's one of the best ideas I've heard on hear in a while actually.

03 Apr 2020 21:26:41
Hey Formerly LHD. care to explain why NO?

thanks for the comments LeafsGM and LeafsLife…. have thought of the compliance buyout for a while and was just looking at teams that might have more than 1 guy they would want to get rid of and Jersey came to mind. I don't know much about Zacha to be honest but have seen his name on this board a lot lately and he is a cheaper hit that Kerfoot. Murphy has a decent cap hit and is steady defender as is DeMelo…. but after running the numbers to have all these moves I was only left with about 4mil for Murray and that was not counting a percentage for buying out Schneider. so other than that I think being able to add a Zacha or a another cheaper option than him as 3rd line centre might work. maybe just a high pick from Jersey and we sign Joe Thornton for 3rd line centre and pick up Demelo…. not much can be done without trading a core 4 guy if cap stays flat.

04 Apr 2020 00:33:37
Don't forget Dermott and Clifford (if he's back) need re-signing too. They both will be getting raised because LA retained half Clifford's salary and Dermott deserves it now that his elc is finished.

04 Apr 2020 01:47:37
Compliance buyout may have a stipulation that is needs to be a guy on your own team the previous year though. Same you just guessing as well. I like the idea a lot just not a huge fan of zacha. Taking someone like Bobrovski and buying them out if FLA is giving up on him though would net you at least 2 1sts maybe even a few prospects thrown in.

04 Apr 2020 01:48:56
Another target could be someone like carry price. Maybe he's willing to take a buyout and re sign with MTL if allowed. Or OEL I'm sure they would like to get away from that cap hit.

04 Apr 2020 03:38:56
I would trade Dermott. we'd have Rielly. Muzzin and Sandin on the left. Dermott and DeMelo might be close in skill wise but would prefer DeMelo as he is RD and played over 20 minutes each night against top lines. Dermott was just starting to do that but as he is LD he is over kill. as for Clifford don't care if he's back or not but Leafs will definitely have to get rid of Johnsson and Kerfoot IMO to upgrade the defense.

04 Apr 2020 04:10:22
That's the hard part loxley. Marlies are empty. Replaces Kapanen and Kerfoot isn't easy I'm not sure how he plans on doing it.

04 Apr 2020 18:55:16
Leafs paid a first just to unload one year of Marleau's contract. And it cost Washington Grubauer to unload one year of Orpik's deal. So unloading Bobrovsky would be a hefty price for sure. Speaking of Price, I'm not sure if he would be allowed to re-sign with Montreal right after they just bought him out. I think there would be a wait period before he would be allowed to re-sign with the same team, same as with a regular buyout. On the other hand, if No freak bought Price out, would he be a better signing than Andersen?

Montreal buys out Price. We sign him, then buy out Andersen?