Leafs Trade Rumors

04 Oct 2023 15:56:16
RLF

MONTREAL DACH BARREN
LEAFS NYLANDER

I hate this trade in so many ways that's not really enough for Nylander

I'm also convinced Nylander isn't being traded

Nylander has told leafs the number he wants and Toronto are moving him to Center so they can give him his number on money.

Centers make more than wingers

Treliving knows he has a bunch of young forwards on the way so all he has to do upfront is resign Willy. Then secondly he has to determine if Bertuzzi should be extended long term

Once he has those two forwards settled all he has to do is spend all his available cap money fixing the Defence

He built a great defence in Calgary so it will be no different in Toronto

Next season leafs have about 15 million spent

Reilly
Liljegren
McCabe
Timmins
Kokkonen
Niemela


They will have a ton of money to add

04 Oct 2023 18:47:14
@David Mackin. Well David, you can dislike the prop all you want. It's all good.

As for your future Leafs plan. Yes, on the surface it looks like the Leafs have a ton of cap space. Projected about $33M. Let's remember though, that is with only 12 players signed for next year.

Let's assume Willy stays and gets his $10M. That leaves 23M with 13 players signed. They need a Number 1 goalie signed if Woll can't steal the job. $5M for the goalie. down to $18M. They only have Rielly, McCabe and Timmins signed next year. a 1st, 2nd and 3rd pair D-man still needed. Let's say $7M for Rielly's D partner, another $3M D-man and Lily will get a raise likely to about $2M if he has a solid enough season. Down to $6M very quickly if you want a very good defence. You have only 9 forwards signed. If Robertson is as good as you say, he gets a good raise. No room left for Betuzzi etc. Just enough room to add more cheap players to fill out the roster. Sounds like a Dubas team. No thanks. imo

Nylander is not at centre to justify paying him $10M. He is a 3rd line centre at the moment. 3rd line C's don't get paid $10M. That would get any GM fired. Even 2nd line C's don't get $10M.
He is at centre because they need to see if he can be a future 2nd line C and they want to spread out the scoring. Even if he works out to be the future 2nd line C, he isn't worth $10M. It's not like he is Draisaitl, who is about the only 2nd line C worth $10M.

My trade makes sense so that next year the Leafs have the cap space to add to the whole team, not just keep Willy. They would have 3 D signed and Lily and Barron as RFA's. They would have 9 forwards signed including Dach. That would leave about $29M to fill out the roster. Betuzzi could be kept. They could add a goalie and a top 4 D and have enough room to fill out the roster with solid players.

04 Oct 2023 21:34:26
@RLF I think you are a bit wrong on why they want to keep Nylander. Leafs are not planning on keeping Willy past this year. They are trying to raise his value for both sides. Leafs can sign and trade him before next season. If he can play C, the Leafs will get much more return for him (hopefully a top D) and Willy will get his 10M+ if he adds C to his resume. IMO. Don’t see how they keep Willy next year unless they have no intention on resigning Bertuzzi or Domi. Or even spending money on this skeleton defence.

05 Oct 2023 00:11:20
That's the first time I've seen an entire post dedicated to hating someone else's prop lol.



Why not trade Nylander though? Nick Robertson can easily replace him in the top 6. Gotcha!

05 Oct 2023 00:40:52
RLF

This is why I’m not trading solid ELC

Cap 87.5 million 24-25 season

Forwards signed for next season let’s include Willy at 11 million and include the RFAs

13 forwards eating approx 60 million

Forwards

Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Knies
Minten
Robertson
Cowan
Holmberg
Jarnknok
Kampf
Steeves
Reeves

Defence say 15 million

Reilly
Liljegren
McCabe
Timmins
Kokkenon
Niemela

Woll I think he becomes number 1 we see

Woll 800k

So I have leafs next season 75 million

But we have some money that we can trade out

Kampf and Jarnknok that’s 4.5 million

So leafs will be around 70 million giving them 17 million to spend and they have 11 forwards 6 defencemen and 1 goalie signed . With Tavares entering his last season on that big contract.

05 Oct 2023 01:41:03
Sure David. The Leafs plan is to have the core 4 upfront and surround them with rookies and what has been so far career AHLers. Then they are going to do the same on D and the goalie will also be a promoted backup. $17M to add to what you've assembled does not look like a Cup team likely. I can't imagine that this is Treliving's plan.

Clarky. What have I got wrong on Nylander? How does playing him as the 3C raise his value? Leafs won't sign him and then trade him because Willy will demand a no trade clause in any contract he signs. I also never said the Leafs plan on keeping him after this year. Not unless it is on their terms anyway.

05 Oct 2023 01:54:31
@RLF. well schooled RJF. oh ya. and u want some of what mackin is drinking. sounds like fun. lol.

03 Oct 2023 16:22:00
Hopefully this is a bit different than what we have all been posting.

MTL
Nylander $6.96M

Tor
Dach $3.63M
Barron $.925M


Montreal is a team that could afford to give Willy his wish of getting around $10M on his next contract. He should be a good fit with the other players they have.

Leafs get a big C/RW that could fit in well in the Leafs top 6 RW. Barron is a solid RD that could play in the top 4 in the furfure. If the y send Barron down, they clear $3.3M in cap.

03 Oct 2023 23:14:54
If you can add something small from Toronto to get them to add wifi I’m in.

04 Oct 2023 01:31:19
At first glance a person might be inclined to say”no way. ”
But upon further examination there is a lot of potential here.
Dach is young, good size, talented, RW/ C.
He could immediately step in as either a RW with Tavares and Knies or fill the vacant 3rd line center slot.

Barron has huge upside with top 4 potential.
He is likely close to ready for NHL minutes, (Timmins and Klingberg are injured) and when they return he could go down to the Marlies for more seasoning.

The cap savings don’t hurt either!

Very interesting suggestion as I believe Montreal has the ability to manipulate their cap to absorb Nylander’s $6.9 this season and his $9.5 - $10 next year as they have a number of players coming off the cap after this season ends.

04 Oct 2023 03:15:06
Wow WB49, you came so close to saying it's a good prop. lol.

03 Oct 2023 13:26:34
Leafs trade Jarnknok Kampf

Montreal 1st round pick

A trade must be coming the leafs have too much money tied into these two players

The forward group even if leafs draft nothing the next 5 years are going to be fantastic

The leafs have never had guys coming into the fold as they do now.this is just the forwards

Your blue chip guys

Knies
Robertson
Minten
Cowan
Holmberg

Second tier

Steeves
McMann
Abruzzese
Hirvonen
Ty Voit
Moldenhauer
Grebenkin

02 Oct 2023 17:35:41
So, just a thought. With Knies and Minten looking good and both have size, is it more feasable to move Nylander? Cowan has also looked very good, but I hope they send him back to junior.
In no way am I saying that either of these guys are as an impact as Willy can be, but can the loss of Nylander be absorbed more easily from within.

Anaheim
Nylander $6.96M

Toronto
Lyubushkin $2.75M
Leason $.775M
Warren ELC
2024 3rd

Ducks get Nylander. Enough said.

Leafs pick up a big RD that play physical. A youngish RW that is another big body that I believe in the right situation, can score more. A RD prospect I like and a 3rd rounder. They get cap space.

02 Oct 2023 23:19:52
I like it.

The cap space it frees up makes any TDL deals extremely easy. That banked space would be 5-6m by then.

03 Oct 2023 02:33:40
@RLF. Minten has looked good. but I wonder if it might be a year too soon to bring him up. that said he seems to have some chemistry with Knies.

03 Oct 2023 02:50:22
Lybushkin is a third pairing D.

03 Oct 2023 11:36:14
Guys, I am not saying Minten makes the team this year, although I can see how it might read that way. My point was that, Leafs have a couple young players with some size and speed that drive doesn't seem to be an issue. It also seems we have a smallish skilled forward prospect. So, do these 3 make it easier to lose Nylander without getting a top prospect back?
None of the guys in my trade are top end guys or Anaheim's best prospects. I know Lyubushkin is not a top pair D, @Bob. Leason has struggled to find a permanent role. Warren is a possible top 4 RD prospect. Can the Leafs afford to make this kind of deal which is more about projects that could be really good and get cap space because of the development of Knies, Minten and Cowan.

01 Oct 2023 22:42:42
Leafs trade Domi Kampf Lafferty

Arizona 2 nd round pick

Leafs have way too many forwards

Knies
Robertson
Minten.

Make leafs out of camp

Robertson Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Bertuzzi
Minten.Nylander Jarnknok
Reeves Holmberg Noah
Steeves McMann

02 Oct 2023 00:17:57
Robertson looks beyond bad. I wouldn't count on him right now.

02 Oct 2023 00:51:46
Bizarre!

02 Oct 2023 01:55:30
Domi and Kampf both have partial no trades and re-signed with Treliving. Both likely have Arizona on their lists and Treliving isn't trading guys he just signed.

02 Oct 2023 01:59:59
Leafs life in which way does Robertson look bad

He is getting the most shots in games he plays

So I’m not worried him connecting.

02 Oct 2023 13:11:07
Generally curious - why do you have Robertson so high? You keep pushing him to break out when there hasn’t been much reason to support the idea.

02 Oct 2023 13:27:25
It's almost like you hate Domi and love Robertson. lol.

02 Oct 2023 16:18:06
@DM in everyway the game is played (other than shots), he's been bad.

02 Oct 2023 18:14:01
You guys think that maybe DavidMackin is actually Nick Robertson under cover? 🤯.

02 Oct 2023 21:21:20
@Clarky. More likely his agent if there is a connection. 🤑.