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20 Oct 2019 04:06:12
Here is a hall trade for of it even though it should never happen and it is not necessary.

Tor: Hall

Njd; nylander, kapanen, sandin,2nd

This is a very hefty price for a single player who would potentially only be a rental for this season. Though I would never want this to happen, the price that would have to be given up is the only way new jeresy could possibly accept this.

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20 Oct 2019 06:52:37
Are you kidding me? Jersey would take far, far, far less for Taylor Hall. He is a rental. If someone offered Jersey Nylander their GM would laugh for years to come and accept immediately. I think some people are confusing Taylor Hall with Connor Mcdavid. Yes hall is a former MVP. No Hall is not a top 10 player in the league right now.

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20 Oct 2019 02:28:21
THWse deals only work once Dermott returns
Leafs
Petan v
Kakisou
Robertson
2022 1st

Wild
Spurgen
2020 4th

Leafs
Ceci

Any team
2020 3rd

Lineup once Dermott return
Johnson Matthews Nylander
Moore Tavares Marner
Mikheyev Kerfoot Kappanen
Gauthier Shoore Timashov

Riley Spurgen
Muzzin Barrie
Dermott Marincin

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19 Oct 2019 19:08:07
Blockbuster Trade Rumor

To the New Jersey Devils:

Kasperi Kapenen, Jake Muzzin, Cody Ceci, Timothy Lilejgren, Jeremiah Bracco and a 2nd Rd pick in 2020.

To the Toronto Maple Leafs:

Taylor Hall and Damon Severson

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19 Oct 2019 21:47:22
Love to have both hall and severson on the leafs. theyd fit the leafs so well

Muzzin is the only problem with this deal. don't want to lose him.

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19 Oct 2019 22:04:02
Not sure about this one. Really on the fence which I guess is the sign of a good prop lol. Severson is on a good contract for awhile more and obviously a player we would all be happy with but Hall is a rental. Leafs cannot afford him unless they ship out Marner and sign Hall after this season. I think I would actually pull the trigger on this if they would take something other than Muzzin. Maybe Trevor Moore and a 2nd?

This trade makes the leafs the best team I know of for this year. It also gives someone who plays RHD for a few more years locked up which the leafs have none of. After this year if Hall walks it's pretty whatever since the hope is the former mvp brings us a cup.

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19 Oct 2019 23:54:37
What do Leafs give up: 3RW (Kapanen), 2LHD UFA (Muzzin), 2RHD UFA (Ceci), picks/ prospects.

What do Leafs gain: 1LW UFA (Hall), 2RHD (Severson)

So, I’m going to say Severson ~ Kapanen, and the rest ~ Hall.

First off, Leafs say no. Hall is too much for a rental and doesn’t really improve us much more than the superstar studded lineup we already got. Severson is a second line defenseman at best. Leafs already got enough of those guys, and trading away our best blue-chip prospect (Liljegren) at that position for a guy who’s upward ceiling has already been reached (Severson) is a bad move. Liljegren might actually be a true 1RHD one day. Can’t say the same about Severson.

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20 Oct 2019 02:06:42
@LeafsGm. Yes Defenseman take longer than forwards but saying Lili may one day be a 1RHD is like saying Robertson may one day be MVP. It's a complete unknown at this point. Severson is far, far better than Ceci and signed to a decent contract. Hall may be a rental but as much as I love Hyman, a line of either Mathews, Hall, Nylander or Tavares, Hall, Marner becomes the most dangerous line in hockey. If Muzzin must be included in this deal for it to work then Dermott steps in for Muzzin which is a small downgrade but still a better top 4 than it was before. After this year you still keep severson. After this year you don't keep Ceci or Muzzin (unless they are signed) . The more I think about this deal the better it becomes. After this deal it would be:

Hall Tavares Marner
Johnson Mathews Nylander
Mikheyev Kerfoot Moore
Whoever Babcock plays that night with Goat.

Reilly Severson
Dermott Barrie
Same as 4th line

Hyman gets traded for a prospect and/ or pick. It's a far superior team going forward and now.

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20 Oct 2019 02:23:40
Muzzin is our only solid top 4 defensive dman, makes no sense to trade him when we need another top 4 defensive dman. only part of this trade that makes sense to me is something like Kapanen for Severson.

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20 Oct 2019 08:24:38
I like it a lot better than the Nylander trade someone posted above. Lol.

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19 Oct 2019 17:58:09
For a deadline move:

Tor: fleury

Car: ceci, 3rd

I don't think ceci is ever going to be a good fit on the leafs roster. With fleury, he only scored his first goal yesterday, but as a former top 10 pick, he might be a good fit on a different roster. Ceci leaves which gives the leafs cap room as well as a 3rd for compensation for Carolina taking cap.

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19 Oct 2019 18:52:05
I like it, don't think Carolina would accept it. May have to include a forward from 3rd or 4th line.

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19 Oct 2019 21:54:52
I don't know about anyone else but i don't mind Ceci. big, skates just doesn't hit. if he was a hitter he probably wouldn't be a skater.

If toronto played a shutdown system he wouldn't be so exposed. If you put any dman on the leafs they would look shaky defensively also. any D

Its not the player on the back end its the run and gun system up front. fun when it scores you 5 goals but sucks when it gets scored on 5 times.

Fleury can't skate so well so imagine how bad he will look in this system. If a player can't skate stay far away from them because they just won't work in this system.

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19 Oct 2019 22:52:21
I've never picked up fleury being slow. I also find ceci quite slow.

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20 Oct 2019 00:00:30
Oh come on. They both suck. Better than I ever could imagine being possible. But worse than their peers. Why does Waddell keep bringing in defensemen, despite having made it a priority to draggy heavy defense? It’s because he doesn’t trust any of the guys he’s drafted to develop into a true top line player. He had Hanifin, and let him go. He’s blowing Fleury and Bean’s development. Signed Gardiner for whatever perverse reason only he knows. If I was Fleury, or Bean, or basically anyone else on the defense, I would demand a trade. It’s not right what he’s doing.

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20 Oct 2019 00:22:05
I kinda think they are both fast. Though, to be honest, all these guys in the nhl are way faster than I’m used to seeing. Without doubt, and I’ve been watching hockey a long time, active participant in local events, live in the gta, and I can honestly say, this is the most skilled I’ve seen the league yet. Not since the big European expansion in the early ‘90’s when they brought in the lines of Bure, Mogilney, Federov, and yes, Sundin, have I seen the league emphasize skill so much more than size. This is a league wide effort to promote goal scoring, and Leafs are on the avante-garde side to this one.

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19 Oct 2019 17:54:35
Tor: Ekblad,

Fla: sandin, kapanen, 1st

This is a trade that I think will get Toronto over that defensive hump. The cost is hefty but for a superstar like Ekblad coming into the lineup, it will totally revamp their roster. It also adds size to a lineup that could use some. This would not be the only move they should make as they should try to get a guy who can finish their checks and stand up for someone if they get hit.

Lineup

Rielly-Ekblad
Muzzin-barrie
Ceci-marincin.

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19 Oct 2019 18:16:51
I love Ekblad he would make toronto have the best top 4 in hockey. Unfortuetly he costs 7-8 million and with what was moved out in this deal isn't enough. i also don't think florida would want kapanen as forward going back. Theyd want much more than his talent level. leafs don't have a true 1st rounder until 2022.

Other than those points Ekblad is a hell of a target if those points can be worked on.

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20 Oct 2019 00:03:19
Can you imagine?

Fairy tales can come true, they can happen to you.

I love Ekblad. If we had him on the team, that would be two “exceptional players”. Then maybe we can pull a fast one with NYR and get Day. All sudden Leafs have entered “Exceptional Team” status.

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20 Oct 2019 00:28:11
Can you imagine? Ekblad for Kapanen and a couple guys not even in the nhl? I would pack all them up and kiss them all good bye. Tell them their time in Toronto was wknderful. They could never be replaced. Which is why we are trading them for Ekblad. He’s way better. He doesn’t replace those dead weight klingons. He actually makes the team better. Imagine that?

Ekblad and his history of concussions is not an issue anymore. I always say, after major injury like that, especially head trauma, give them two to three years. It looks like Ekblad passes the test. An “exceptional player”, he actually really did live up to that status (as did Tavares) . Would love to have Ekblad on the team, and if all it took was what you are offering here, it’s a no-brainer.

And I love his contract too btw. Lol.

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18 Oct 2019 23:49:13
Rework the previous trade

Kapanen

Fleury, leafs 1st back.




Ceci

Jets 3rd

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19 Oct 2019 09:48:46
Can jets afford this? I guess if Buff isn’t on payroll they can. Ceci is a top 4 player on the Leafs. There is no doubt he is top 4 in Winnipeg. A 3rd round pick for a young, former 1st round pick, top 4 nhl defenseman is a pretty good price. Winnipeg might take the chance on renting Ceci for a year. I assume this only happens if the first trade happens. But I’m not convinced the first trade happens. Fleury might be nhl ready, but not top line beside Reilly nhl ready. Ceci is making him look bad enough. Fleury would get lit. I’m not sure Kapanen is worth a 1st, let alone a 1st+. So I have a hard time seeing either team do this. Fleury is no replacement for Ceci. And Canes might not think Kapanen is worth basically two 1st round picks.

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19 Oct 2019 12:08:16
I was thinking of trying d pairings of
reilly barrie
Muzzin fleury
Dermott holl.

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19 Oct 2019 13:11:54
Also with Fleury's age and that this looks to be the first year he breaks the top 6 regularly he doesn't hold the value of his 7th overall status he was drafted with, especially considering that first round pick esentially just cost Carolina money and cap space. I'd be fine to make this trade with the 1st being a 2nd as well.
My thought process on the D pairings are barrie reilly could end up being very dominant if they can learn to cover for each other, especially if our forwards recognize they are jumping in and can cover back. Muzzin may be able to shape fleury into something special holl and dermott can do a solid job manning the 3rd d Pairing. My thoughts on next season on D end up being

Reilly dermott
Muzzin fleury
Sandin lily/ holl

That right side looks a little weak again unless fleury becomes a beast for us, he also usually mans the left side so this is hoping he can make the transition.

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20 Oct 2019 00:07:25
I can’t believe Carolina drafted Fleury 7th overall, Bean 13th overall, and Hanifin 3rd overall, and failed to develop any of them properly. Without doubt, this has to be the worst case of ineptitude management I’ve seen in at least 30 years.

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20 Oct 2019 01:45:20
Ferguson junior is still the worst I have seen. That rask deal goes down as the worst deal I have ever seen, and after what rask did at the world juniors.

But I agree 3 wasted picks in the top half of the first round is something else.

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18 Oct 2019 21:01:57
TOR- Rasmus sandin

STL- Sandford 1st rnd pick.

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18 Oct 2019 22:02:50
Not bad value but leafs don't need another winger. they have so many of them just waiting for their shot. rather keep giving moore the opportunities than dealing for sanford and moore not getting his chances at this moment.

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18 Oct 2019 22:26:55
Nice trade suggestions👍!

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19 Oct 2019 09:50:38
Rather keep Sandin. He’s the only a-prospect on LHD we got. We have several blue chip RHD, but after Sandin, talent level on LHD drops a fair bit.

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19 Oct 2019 11:04:31
Moore is looking great so far this year. It’s always good to see the depth guys step up when the top line guys aren’t doing well. Now that Tavares is injured, we need these guys to continue playing standout hockey. This is Moore’s chance to shine. I hope he knocks it out. He might eventually be considered to replace Hyman if something happens and Hyman is no longer a Leaf (expansion draft, for example) .

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18 Oct 2019 18:47:43
Ducks trade josh manson

Leafs trade Kapanen liljegren

Leafsgm whatever it take I want Manson. Leafs now have size up front and they need to get korshkov promoted to leafs. Manson is under control 2 more seasons after this one. korshkov and Bracco are both ready to be promoted. Leafs have pieces up front to move.

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18 Oct 2019 19:54:23
I really like this trade and do not believe you have to include Lillegren. Kappanen for Manson sounds like a fair trade. If the Ducks want a Dman back, they can have Holl or Marincin. I would not let Lillegren go yet. Give him some time to develop before giving up on him.
If they want Lillegren I'd like Ritchie included. That's the only way I'd include Lilly. I think Ritchie could be a 20 goal scorer on the Leafs.

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18 Oct 2019 19:58:32
Like this trade. He would look great on the right side of Reilly.

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18 Oct 2019 21:53:56
Get er done . first ask kapanen straight up then work up the prospect list starting with filip kral until aniheim folds.

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19 Oct 2019 10:05:10
If we can get Manson for Kapanen, I say go for it. He’s got 19 hits already, which puts him on pace for almost 200 exactly. He plays over 20 minutes a night. His Corsi could use a boost. Maybe playing on a better possession team like the leafs will see an improvement. He’s only 28, which is still early in his prime as defensemen tend to peak later than forwards. So we would be getting him in his best years too. The main thing I dislike about this deal is that Manson is UFA in three years. Kapanen his RFA. So I would exclude Liljegren just on that reason alone. Anaheim will get many more years out of Kapanen than we get with Manson.

Ritchie a 20 goal scorer. At $1.5M that’s a steal.

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