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26 Jan 2021 01:02:42
Tor: nylander, engvall, vesey

Cgy: Bennett, dube, mangiapane, 2021 1st

Tor: kerfoot
Van: motte, 2020 3rd

Leaf lineup

Hyman Matthews marner
Micheyev tavares mangiapane
Motte Bennett Simmonds
Robertson spezza dube

Other teams need to do some cap manipulation to make it work. I would also then alternate spezza and Thorton 4 c we lose nylanders high skill but gain way better depth

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25 Jan 2021 19:45:58
I think this one is different. If anyone else has done similar, let me know.

Nylander 6.96
Kerfoot 3.5
Hyman 2.25

Monahan 6.375
Bennett 2.55
Ryan 3.125

Calgary picks up more speed and skill and guys signed longer term in Nylander and Kerfoot. They keep some grit and forecheck with getting Hyman in return who is pending UFA.

Leafs get some skill who isn't afraid of the dirty area in Monahan. A younger replacement for Hyman in Bennett who is RFA in stead of UFA like Hyman. Bennett may find his touch if given a more offensive role like what Toronto could afford to give him. Leafs take on the overpriced contract of Ryan to make it work. He fills a bottom 6 role who is pretty good on the draw and can penalty kill.

New lines

Bennett Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Monahan
Vesey Ryan Simmonds
Engvall Spezza Barabanov

Still to return-Thornton and Robertson.

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25 Jan 2021 21:06:06
Vesey instead of Hyman imo is more fair

Nylander no matter how lazy is a lot like laine. All the skill
, all the cockiness, but 1 thing is their value is still high

If laine and roslivic get a same age Dubois then Nylander gets older Monahan straight up
Kerfoot and Bennett is pretty close
Vesey tor Ryan (10% retained cap purposes) close

I love the look of this deal a bit better. If it’s Hyman Calgary wins deal big time. I’d want Mangiapane more than Ryan as his cap hit works better but Calgary would decline so I’ll settle for this.

Nylander with backlund lindholm Nordstrom Andersson kylington markstrom

If this much Swedish mojo surrounding him in the lockeroom can’t motivate Nylander. the fact he was born in Calgary and his daddy’s second team in nhl was Calgary. The fact they have 1 holdout by this point in their careers.

Then nothing will and he will be a traded player for rest of his life.

The Nylanders at one time or another have played with all 6 Swedish players or a relative of theirs so Calgary just might if micheal has the pull there like he has had on Toronto due to his connections

It’s a whicked list but I’ll save that for another day so nylander has more pull than we all think.

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25 Jan 2021 21:19:28
And if all 7 don’t care and want to play at world championships instead of show up in first round then better for leafs

Double bonus lol.

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25 Jan 2021 07:17:03
Oilers trade Yamamoto
Leafs trade Dermott Liljegren

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25 Jan 2021 09:50:10
Edmonton probably passes.

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25 Jan 2021 15:21:29
Also do we really need him? He is Hyman esque which I like, but trading 2 D for 1 winger seems counter productive right now.

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25 Jan 2021 16:47:30
Dubas would be tripping all over himself to get Yamamoto.

Would he dare trade Robertson for him?

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26 Jan 2021 00:04:51
That’s a good question

I think because getting Robertson in 2nd round after dealing that 1st in Muzzin deal he “thinks” he is an absolutely brilliant guy so won’t ever deal Robertson until it’s too late much like liljegren

He seems to be type of guy that won’t ever deal any of his decisions unless he absolutely steals the deal

He will trade any of his non draft picks and lower valued signings in a heartbeat.

When it comes to the big decisions he has had to make he will never admit fault thus never deal them no matter how much he knows he messed up. That’s where he needs to grow up.

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24 Jan 2021 18:55:32
Rumored trade,

Toronto trades Dermont
Pittsburgh for Mark Jamkowski

Good trade, Dubas wanted him in the nexed Calgary trade with Kadri.
Salary works both ways.

But to solve the problems for Toronto Dubas needed to pull up his big boy pants and trade Ballarina Willy.

Toronto trades Nylander
New Jersey for
Miles Woods, Nathan Bastian

Frees up 4 million in cap space and could allow more room to get another player. If Dubas would just smarten up and see that two 20 goal scorers are better than one proposed to 30 goal scorer with no grit!

For all you Nylander lovers out there if you can't see that Matthews or Tavares don't want to play with Nylander then your blind or nieve.


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24 Jan 2021 20:02:14
I don’t know if Pittsburgh does this deal but it’s fair value depending who you ask.

Miled wood I like and yes this deal saves 4 million to use elsewhere but if nylander got traded that’s basically it for adding to this roster so you better get 2 guys worth at least 6 million combined or that 4 million will just sit all year never to get used

You can’t afford top end skill wise to deal the other 3. Muzzin Brodie can’t go anywhere. Rielly would be a dumb move. Holl is playing like a 4 million player right now. The rest of the D are all just plugs. I can’t see Mikhayev or Hyman going anywhere. Thornton and summoned Cant. Spezza won’t and vesey who cares. Guess you could deal kerfoot but then to spend even 2 million extra I don’t see anyone giving up a 5.5 player back for him. The rest are all plugs.

I mean Keats have future 1sts but realistically only have 3 viable prospects worth anything to gain a 4 million dollar forward. Liljegren isn’t worth enough to move needle as solid add. Really it’s this deal then done so hopefully you are happy enough with miles bastian to make this deal

Miles isn’t a 20 goal man yet. He flirted with it once then 2 years if blah. Amazing 3rd liner would be great beside kerfoot and jankowski. Bastian gets shot with Mikhayev and Tavares and Hyman Matthews marner gets back together. The 4th line is actually good with vesey spezza simmonds with simmonds flip flopping with bastian.

I mean it’s not bad but the 3 with the role they become on this team might flirt with 40 maybe 50 goals combined if lucky however nylander stays and vesey and simmonds simply slide up to 3rd line while any plugger fills in bottom 2 spots. I’m sure 40 goals plus the extra goals vesey and sim minds get with more time might get leafs 50 or 60 now.

I get your point that yeah go get that 4 million guy but again who are you going to deal for him

Trading nylander yes. Like his dad if he doesn’t smarten up could have a 15 year 7 team career never staying with same team after the leafs more than 2 years. Just sayin smarting up nylander you’re better than this.

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25 Jan 2021 13:03:24
I had basically the same trade up for Nylander when we were searching for a top 4 D, but it was Willy for Severson, Wood and Bastian. At 2.75, Wood was overpaid for his production at the time and Willy was coming off of his 30 goal season. We should still be able to get more than Wood and Bastian, but I am a big Miles Wood fan though.

We don't need Severson anymore, but NY could still use a young, quality LD. So here is my suggestion.

Nylander 6.96
Dermott .874
Wood 2.75
Bastian ELC
Okhotyuk ELC
2021 2nd (NYI)

The negative is that we probably lose Wood in the expansion draft, where we were likely losing Holl or Dermott.

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25 Jan 2021 16:46:24
Get Brandon Tanev thrown in too somehow. Do it.

I won’t hold your hand and explain why I insist Tanev be included. But if you wonder why I suggest this, simply look at my favourite stat. The answer will be revealed.

Lol. This site can be a lot of fun. Especially since we have a lot of very smart people on here.

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25 Jan 2021 19:03:03
@HL. I don't understand why you want him. Tanev's zone entries aren't that impressive:)

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26 Jan 2021 00:05:29
Hits hits hits.

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24 Jan 2021 17:19:17
Dubas is apparently looking for a forward with the injuries the leafs for once have a healthy amount of depth

Tor: Dermott
Pit: jankowski

Leafs are going to lose Dermott in expansion if they don't move him so it makes sense to get something for him jankowski would be a good fit on that checking line big guy and a local kid

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24 Jan 2021 20:02:58
Does Pittsburgh need Dermott and if so get we done.

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24 Jan 2021 23:20:24
They are rumoured to be looking for some help on the blue line don’t know if it’s due to injury or cause they don’t like their blue line.

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24 Jan 2021 16:01:07
So revisiting the nylander for pesce trade that rlf posted below. Let's look at all the options we would have been afforded.

- point one we wouldn't need to trade kadri for cap restraints.

-We wouldn't have to sign Brodie for 5 million.

-We wouldn't have to trade kapanen or johnsson

-We could then have taken a run at markstrom and traded Andersen.

Andersen to Edmonton for James Neal and 2 firsts one for taking Neal and one for Andersen.

Leaf lineup

Hyman Matthews marner
Johnsson tavares Neal
Micheyev kadri kapanen
Engvall spezza Simmonds

Reilly pesce
Muzzin holl
Dermott bagoshian



Thorton Matthews marner
Vesey tavares nylander
Micheyev kerfoot Hyman
Barabonov spezza simmonds

Reilly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott bagoshian


Which wouod you prefer?

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24 Jan 2021 17:12:21
Let’s not pretend that kadri was traded due to cap reasons he was traded because he could control his emotions which led to hurting the leafs more in the playoffs.

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24 Jan 2021 20:16:17
Actually you need to deal kadri for kerfoot now as leafs are .8 over and that’s not including the 1.2 Kessel takes up. So 2 is needed

Kadri and kerfoot differance is 1 so shave 1 million

I’m not sold on markstrom. The defence is basically same just a tad younger now. Yes leafs have better depth but as rnh knows all to well Neal is now a middle 6 guy not too 6. Johnson you can say same.
Andersen won’t get a 1st back on his own. Maybe a 3rd. Either way I prefer kassian over Neal. May not be as offensive but now every line has a dirty guy and some lines 2. Lol

Yeah If you get kassian and now keep kadri i definetly am on board. Neal and no kadri isn’t worth it. Funny how kadri really adds as a 3C PP and can fill in on any line invade of injury or just because. I deal I’d take back but way more to this then him just getting dealt.

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24 Jan 2021 15:19:56
Keeping it rolling this weekend with the wild trades since its -52 outside, so here's another beaut! For the 2021 expansion/player draft floor(s).

So I'm letting Thornton and Spezza walk off into the sunset! Thanks for coming out b'ys!
Bogosain and Boyd cap savings cuts and also thanks for coming out.
Expansion Draft Protection list as follows
Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Mathews, Hymn, Kerfoot, Riley, Muzzin, Brodie and Andersen
Then at the expansion draft floor make these trades!

Tor gets
Nashville's 2nd round picks 2021 & 2022

Nashville gets
Holl D

Tor gets
Edmonton's 2nd round picks 2021 & 2022

Oilers gets
Dermot D

Bottom line, draft defence with those picks and permanently move up Liljigren and Sandin. Live by the draft sword and die by the draft sword! Now that these trades are done and we're not watching them go bye bye to Seattle for nothing we move onto the player draft!
Assuming none of these player got picked up by Seattle.

Tor gets
Seguin C/RW

Dallas gets
Marner RW
Toronto's 2nd round pick 2021

Tor gets
Crouse LW

Arizona gets
Engvall LW/C
Kivihalme D

Tor gets
Kassian RW

Oilers get
Kerfoot LW/C/RW

Toronto's forward lines
Extras: Brooks & Maglin

Toronto's defensive lines
Extras: sign some fill'er in'er kind of characters!

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
And we assume no one wants our Campbell soup so he's back!

I'm pretty sure I've kept it under the cap got some pick depth and never lost anything of real importance to the expansion draft beside our defensive depth. That said I did scoop 4/2nd round picks while only giving up 1/2nd round pick.
Anyway something to think about! Should start some new trade trends for the rest of this day.


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24 Jan 2021 15:59:42
I like your ideas very well thought out

I’ll only point out 1 thing. Unless Hyman and Andersen sign extensions before the expansion draft then no need to protect.

Other than that not bad at all.

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25 Jan 2021 16:55:18
I love the idea.

if the draft and develop model is so important to this organization then trust in it, stop blocking the path and progression of some of these guys, and let them contribute in a meaningful way.

Love Dermott and Holl both, but are they really going to be the better long term solution?

Unfortunately, we don’t have a long time to figure it out.

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24 Jan 2021 15:12:24
Tor: Adrian Kempe
Lak: Travis Dermott Alex Barabanov

Put robertson, engvall on taxi

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24 Jan 2021 16:01:08
Cap don’t work and not sure if robertson can go to taxi since it’s equivalent to minors and Robertson can’t go that way. He is on Long term injury right now with Thornton.

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