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22 Apr 2024 02:55:48
We are def getting swept (hopefully not) but, Boston has shown us our flaws

Fire Keefe: Always throwing someone under the bus, he's done

Sign a goalie: Brossoit 3x4 or Pickard 2x3

Bolster Defence; need puckmovers and some stay at home D: Montour 3x5, Skjei 3x5 and/or Pesce 3x5, MacDermid 3x1,

Bolster Forwards: Stammer 4x4, Tuzzi and Domi at 5x3.5, Brown 2x1, Marcassault 3x5

Trade: Jarnkrok, Kampf

Cap-wise: Obviously they won't be able to fit everyone, the more the better. Goalie and Defence def need to be better tho, so if they arent able to go crazy on forwards, it aight since we got some down our pipeline.

In the future: Tavares 4x3, Marner 8x8

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22 Apr 2024 03:36:03
Papi

Easy to blame keefe who did he throw under bus. Let’s see game 2 b4 you start throwing white flags papi

Down 2 0 would be a problem

Matthews hasn’t scored 3 games so there is going to be an explosion soon. Austin had 6 great chances game 1

I haven’t read it but I assume McMann and Nylander are back in the lineup for game 2.

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22 Apr 2024 05:00:49
When Marner and Tavares contracts are up in 2025
The leafs should sign 3-6 million dollar players and 1-4 million dollar players with that 22 million cap space
No more of this core 4 contracts with a bunch of fill ins.

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21 Apr 2024 18:51:46
Extreme Makeover

Marner 1st 2024 niemela
Fantilli jiricek 1st 2024 boqvist

1st 2024 colombus Robertson Hildeby
Andersson flames 1st 2024

Jarnkrok Liljegren Woll to Hawks
2nd 2025 2nd 2026 to leafs

Timmins to Sj
4th 2025 to leafs

July 1
Sign
Broissoit
Lankinen
Duclair
Trenin
Debrusk
Montour


Brodie Domi Bertuzzi Lyubushkin walk👋

Duclair Matthews Debrusk
McMann Tavares Nylander
Knies Fantilli Cowan
Trenin Kampf Reaves
Holmberg

Rielly Andersson
McCabe Montour
Benoit Jiricek
Webber Boqvist

Broissoit
Lankinen

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21 Apr 2024 21:41:27
MPH

NO NO NO NO

Let’s think this through suppose leafs get swept Boston! I don’t think they get swept but I think Toronto lose series.

So what will offseason be Leafs have a lot of money to play with and even more if 5 players don’t return


Do not return

Bertuzzi
Domi
Jarnknok
Kampf
Brodie

Return bigger roles

McMann
Robertson
Holmberg
Cowen
Minten
Niemela

UFA POSSBLE TARGETS NOT SIGNING ALL A FEW


Leafs score some players off this list



Montour
Peace
Hanifin
Demelo
Lindholm
Stamkos
Marchessault
Matt Duchane
Teravainen


If Bertuzzi would take less money on a long deal I bring him back. Domi money could stay same on long term deal I bring hi, back as well . Domi takes 500 k haircut on long term deal all the better


Lines
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Stamkos Marner
Reaves Holmberg Minten

Reilly. Pesce
McCabe Liljegren
Benoit Niemela

Woll.

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21 Apr 2024 23:26:10
I’m not sure but I think you are disagreeing with me? 😂.

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21 Apr 2024 23:30:24
I guess Woll is going to play 82 games?
Lol
So you have added Stamkos and Pesce and no second goalie

And that defence looks atrocious

Looks like a winning formula DM😂😂😂.

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22 Apr 2024 01:56:18
Hanifin has already resigned with Vegas.

Stamkos 34
Duchene. 33
Marchessault 33
DeMelo 31
Montour. 30
Teravainen. 30 in September
Pesce. 30 in November
Lindholm. 30 in December

These are their ages at signing and they will all want a minimum of 3 - 5 or more years of term
Perhaps a Pesce or DeMelo (my preference would be Matt Roy or Sean Walker) on defense but the rest I would pass on.

I could see Domi returning at the right price but the money Bertuzzi will want should be directed towards improving the defense.

I agree that Kampf ($2.45), Brodie ($5), and Jarnkrok ($2.1), need to go.
I would also like to see the departure of Reaves ($1.35)

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21 Apr 2024 07:22:28
Blockbuster Offseason Trade

Maple Leafs and Kraken

Maple Leafs trade William Nylander, Timothy Lilejgren and the 23rd overall pick in the 2024 NHL Entry draft to the Kraken

Kraken trade Jared McCann,prospect Shane Wright, Will Borgen and the 8th overall pick in the 2024 NHL Entry draft to the Maple Leafs

Maple Leafs select Sam Dickenson with the 8th overall pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft.

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21 Apr 2024 15:16:54
nylander very likely to say no.

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22 Apr 2024 02:04:00
I like the trade except for Wright.
Not sold on the kid at all.
I don’t think he will ever be more than a middle 6 player at best.

With the 8th pick I would prefer to see Leafs draft Camden Lidstrom if he is available.
Lidstrom could replace Tavares in a couple of years.
Otherwise one of the RHD.
Dickinson looks like he will be a keeper but he is a LHD which seem to be much easier to acquire than RHD.
Top 4 RHD only seem to be available in the draft, not through trade or free agency.

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21 Apr 2024 07:15:31
Blockbuster Offseason Trade

Maple Leafs - Blue Jackets

Maple Leafs trade Auston Matthews to the Blue Jackets

Blue Jackets trade Adam Fantilli, Zach Weresnski, Elvis Merzlikins and the 4th overall draft pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft to the Maple Leafs

The Maple Leafs select 4th overall Cayden Lindstrom

Let the rebuild begin for the Toronto Maple Leafs

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22 Apr 2024 02:09:48
Really like Adam Fantilli and Cayden Lindstrom.
Leafs future #1 & #2 centers.
Werenski can push Morgan Reilly back to the second pairing #3 as well as quarterback the PP with Reilly on the #2 PP unit.

I would do this with Matthews at his peak.
But likely Matthews balks at playing in Columbus.

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21 Apr 2024 01:59:13
Leafs trade Jarnknok

Chicage 3 rd rounder 2024

Boston 4 leafs 0 after 40 min

This series jis the final audition of Bertuzzi and Domi. If leafs lose this series one of the main reason will be Bertuzzi and Domi didn't bring enough offence.


But folks if Leafs do get bounced get excited for July 1. Because Treliving will have prospects coming and the money to add key pieces leafs are short.

On paper the leafs will be more than 20 points stronger after July 1 signings

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21 Apr 2024 05:06:17
I liked Bert and Domi, and thought Jarnkrok was ok. What's the issue with them?

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21 Apr 2024 08:26:09
Leafslife

I’m shocked you ask what the issue with these three players are and the same holds true for Kampf

It’s funny Kampf actually scored tonight but it doesn’t change who he is a forth line player earning over 2 million. Holmberg replaces him next year a better player who earns a lot less.

Jarnknok if I remember and I can’t look it up right now jarnknok earns $2.4 million. He is great on special teams. But he just doesn’t drive enough offence to play on Leafs top 9. I would sooner have Robertson in the lineup who is a explosive player where Jarnknok isn’t

If Leafs lose this series one of the main reasons will be the top line didn’t score enough goals. Matthews had 6 chances tonight and hasn’t scored in three games so look out game two.

Leafs pay Bertuzzi and Domi 8.5 million combined so the question becomes will those two take less to stay or do leafs let them go add more money to those two players spots and get more explosive players to replace Domi and Bertuzzi

If leafs don’t win this playoff series plus the next one then Bertuzzi and Domi have zero chance of returning

The Leafs will be forced to add more skill and replace those two. There are only 12 forward spots and Toronto have a lot of guys here and on way next season.

McMann
Robertson
Holmberg

Those 3 above get bigger roles next season. The only place Domi and Bertuzzi fit right now is top line

Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson UFA Marner
Reaves. Holmberg —————

So next year you could replace Bertuzzi Domi More skill.

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21 Apr 2024 16:40:36
mackin, leafs dont have the salary cap to get more skill. if anything id try and trade marner, we could use that 11m to bring in 2 good defensemen and a solid 2/ 3C. bjugstad is only making a touch over 2m, hes 6'6" 49.7% on faceoffs, playing up the line up on a weak team that's moving, hes signed with arizona twice, and im not sure he wants to go play in utah. he could be 3c with marner on the right and mcmann on the left.

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19 Apr 2024 23:29:36
tor: liljigren, robertson, kampf

Chi: 2024 1st (TB) (or 2025 1st (tor), 2024 3rd (ott) reese johnson

this move brings in a couple youngish peices for chicago, leafs pick up a couple draft picks and frees up some cap space for free agency.

resign edmunson 2yx2m
resign domi 3yx4m
resign gregor 1yx850k


free agent signings
montour: 4yx6m or dumba 3yx3m
pesce: 4yx5.5m


we complete revamp the dcore

reilly - pesce
mccabe - benoit
edmunson - montour/ dumba
timmins

next we need a 2/ 3C

monahan, could possibly be signed

or trade
steeves, holmberg, and 2024 1st (the worse or the 2 from the previous trade) for bjugstad and 2025 2nd (Tor)

this trade can bring is assets for a better trade deadline next season.

domi matthews marner
knies tavares nylander
mcmann bjugstad jarkrok
gregor dewar reaves
R johnson.

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20 Apr 2024 03:36:39
Pesce is reportedly looking for $6.5 - $7M with term
I think I would pass on Pesce in favor of offering Matt Roy $5M x 4 years to play as Reilly’s partner.
Similarly Montour is reportedly looking for $6+ with term.
I would prefer to see Sean Walker as Leafs 2nd pairing RHD at $5M x 4 years
Dumba is a disaster defensively and doesn’t fit Leafs needs.

Reilly - Matt Roy
McCabe - Walker
Benoit - Liljegren
Timmins

I’m unsure about resigning Gregor.
He started the year off well but after 30 games or so seemed to disappear and was passed on the depth chart by McMann and Holmberg then at the trade deadline by Dewar.

I would love to see the Leafs sign one of Monahan or Henrique to be Leafs 3rd line center (depending on dollars and term) .

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Robertson - Henrique/ Monahan - Nylander
Holmberg - Dewar/ Minten/ Quillan -?
Reaves

Though Bertuzzi came on strong over the second half of the season I would prefer to see that$5.5M spent on the defense.

Kampf and Jarnkrok are expendable.
Leafs need a proper 4th line RW something Reaves is not!

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20 Apr 2024 04:30:39
@WB you think Roy and Walker accept 5m as a last payday before they're mid 30s? I don't.

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20 Apr 2024 12:41:28
My target of Montour and pesce is based on their defensive pk power, with Montour having added offensive style.

Pesce has an amazing take away vs give away, meaning he's goodbat passing and getting the pucks to our forwards. He kills penalties (2m/ g), and plays around 20m/ game. His points totals say no more than 6m

Montour is used sparingly as penalty killer currently at 30s/ game, with much higher offensive skill. He hits hard and blocks shots. He had only 1 season over 37 points.

Should target 1 or the other this off season.

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21 Apr 2024 00:02:14
LeafLife

I think both Roy and Walker will receive $5 - $5.5 on their next contracts.
I see term being a bigger problem.
Neither one is a true, top pairing defenseman.

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22 Apr 2024 05:18:10
@WB I meant to say, with that term. I believe they both take 5m as well, but want 7 years.

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13 Apr 2024 21:10:56
Now might be the time to pick the carcass of the failed Yotes. I'm sure not everyone will want to move to Utah.

They seem to really. like Jack mcbain, but I'd love to throw some offers out there. Maybe Robertson+late-ish pick?

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14 Apr 2024 02:08:24
I'm not sure if there will be a carcass. I would assume Utah will want to be good, especially since the League is expected to buy the team for $1B.

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14 Apr 2024 03:06:07
@RLF doesn't mean every player wants yo move to Utah. It's unlike any other place in NA in a lot of ways, ans they signed up for Arizona.

Good time to at least try.

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14 Apr 2024 05:44:47
It is the management who determine the trades not the players.

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14 Apr 2024 13:17:07
LL. Yes, but as waterbuffalo said, the players under team control don't get to decide, unless you are predicting a revolt from the players. I doubt players wanted to go from Atlanta to Winnipeg either. Does Robertson+ get McBain? Maybe. But I don't think it will be because all the players demand to get out of playing in Utah.

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15 Apr 2024 13:37:06
The fact that Arizona has to win the land auction, for their new arena and the league already has Utah as a contingency plan. Kinda stinks of some shady dealings. Someone just has to outbit Yates ownership (the league and or Utah owners) .

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15 Apr 2024 19:22:33
Leafs67. It is weird isn't it.

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15 Apr 2024 22:42:08
@L67 the best part is the league taking 200m for no reason.

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16 Apr 2024 14:26:02
Vegas paid 500M, Seattle 650M.
Utah 700+M?
Outbit the Yotes, then flip the property. Almost seems to easy lol.

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16 Apr 2024 21:53:50
@L67 pretty sure Utah is paying 1.2b.

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17 Apr 2024 11:29:37
Wow! So is the fee just gonna continue to double?

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17 Apr 2024 21:16:26
Yeah, franchise values are skyrocketing league wide. If you pay 1.2b to acquire the Yotes, what is a real team worth?

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18 Apr 2024 13:52:17
I believe the $1.2B is for lock stack and barrel. Players, management, equipment etc. The fees paid by Vegas and Seattle were just for the franchise fees. How does that all equate value wise? I have no idea.

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18 Apr 2024 14:57:55
@RLF they're calling this an "expansion" though, so I'm assuming it's a way of pulling some shady moves to make more money.

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18 Apr 2024 16:24:20
LL. IIRC, there is something in their about the current Yotes ownership has 5 years to be able to bring a team back to Arizona or something like that. New arena site, Shovels in the ground on a new arena, finances in order etc have to all be done in 5 years. It is a strange situation. It's like the League is giving the owner $1B and 5 years to get it done and then charging the Utah group $1.2B to have the franchise, but Arizona ownership has 5 years to show they can have a franchise and likely the League then charges them a franchise fee. I don't know. It's confusing.

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18 Apr 2024 19:15:37
@RLF that's the odd part. It's like a billion dollar loan, as he also has to spend 1B if he wants the team.

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13 Apr 2024 01:43:23
Starting to look like Vegas will not have the cap space to resign Chandler Stephenson after signing Hanifin.
He would be a great 3rd line center for the Leafs next season depending on price and term, of course.
Henrique, Monahan and Bujgstad would also be good options.
Neither Kampf nor Holmberg is suited for the 3rd line center position.

I would like to see Leafs sign Matt Roy to play RHD with Morgan Reilly next season.
I would also like to see Leafs offer Rogers plus a prospect to San Jose for Ferraro.

Reilly ($7.5) - Roy ($5.5)
Ferraro ($3.25) - McCabe ($2)
Benoit ($1.35) - Liljegren ($?)
Timmins ($1.1)

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13 Apr 2024 02:09:16
I like Kampf at 3C. I don't think you can spend more than what Kampf makes unless you plan on walking away from Mitchy either.

I like those D pairings though. Roy should be high on the list for Tree. I have a sneaking suspicion Tanev and Zadorov will be Leafs on July 1 though.

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13 Apr 2024 04:29:07
@LL I think you're right about Tanev, hopefully $4M tops ($3.5M would be ideal) . I hope you're not right about Zadorov, he's too expensive for what he brings.
Leafs can upgrade on 3C if they only re-sign Domi, no need to trade Marner. I do like Stephenson, but he might cost $5.5M+ IMO.

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13 Apr 2024 13:30:39
I like Stephenson as a 200 ft player. But why would a guy who is used tom playing 18-19 mins a night come to the Leafs where he knows he is only going to get 15 mins a night as a 3C? Add to that, as others mentioned, he's 29 and will be looking for a good payday.

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13 Apr 2024 16:21:47
I'm thinking they can use Stephenson as 2C and moving Tavares down to 3C. Lines would work well for next year, but no room to re-sign Bertuzzi in this scenario.

Knies-Matthews-Domi
McMann-Stephenson-Nylander
Cowan-Tavares-Marner
Holmberg-Dewar-Reaves
Tverberg

Something like this, even works with Lindholm.

Leafs trade Kampf, Jarnkrok & Robertson for cap purposes and hooefully pick up some picks for the draft.

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13 Apr 2024 18:30:08
I like Stephenson as a target and I agree with tags either move Tavares down or move him to a wing.

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13 Apr 2024 21:08:34
@Tags I like Zadorov well enough, but I agree, he's a bottom pairing guy that gets way too much hype.

Tanev would be a great pickup, but I also don't think term is a good idea. Maybe 2-3 years at most. More than that is just way too risky.

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14 Apr 2024 05:49:10
LeafsLife.

I don’t understand the desire to make Kampf a 3rd line center when he isn’t even a great 4th line center.
He has next to zero offensive capability and has not shown well in the past when given time at 3C.
I would prefer to see Kampf traded, Dewar given the 4C position and Leafs use the money to get an impact third line center.

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14 Apr 2024 13:25:37
The pervious two seasons Kampf was 8th and 9th respectively in even strength scoring amongst forwards. That is top 9 production on the Leafs even though his zone starts are massively defensive zone weighted and he typically plays with guys who don't have a lot of offence to offer. That is actually very good production under the role he plays. No different than if Nylander played 4th line with defensive players and mostly D-zone draws, I doubt he puts up 90+ points.

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15 Apr 2024 16:48:59
Why would any coach put Nylander on 4th L? Such a statement offers zero value to the reader.

It’s a nonsensical statement and posted in an attempt to make support for Kampf’s production!

It might baffle some.

Kampf is a good 4C. I do like him in that role and I’m happy to have him on our team though he’s a bit overpaid.

Kampf was in those scoring positions NOT because of his scoring skill BUT because he played MANY more games than others below him!

In 22/ 23 Engvall had 6 fewer points than Kampf but played 24 fewer games.

Kampf was ahead of the likes of Simmonds, Ritchie, Clifford, Blackwell and a number of Marlie callups like Steeves, McMann, Abruzzese and Robertson.

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15 Apr 2024 19:49:05
I take it this was for me Rsears. sigh.

No one said to put Nylander on the 4th line. What are you talking about now. lol
The point was that even someone as talented as Nylander would have trouble scoring or putting up points if he played the role Kampf does. Not that hard to understand really. My guess is everyone else got the analogy. Analogies are commonly used in supporting an stance.

You do realize even if you project Engvall's production over 82 games it's only 3 pts more than Kampf and that included PP points. Remove the PP production and he had less than Kampf at even stength. Kerfoot who played lots in the top 6 only had 5 more pts and 3 of those came on the PP.

I notice you left out that Kampf had better point production than ZAR and Acciari as well. How come?

Again with the insults on a post I made that was not in response to you, but I'm the one who insults and can't stand being challenged. lol

Do you feel better? Did you get out all your anger and frustration toward me?

Maybe time for a timeout and you will feel better. lol.

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15 Apr 2024 22:19:54
Not yet!

It was your hypothesis that placed Nylander on L4.

No one else would put forth such a statement.

And how many games did Acciari play with the Leafs?

What position in scoring does Kampf hold this year? Tied for 12th!

It’s your distortion of facts that is outrageous.

As for Kampf, I quite like him. He and Holmberg are competing for L3 but that doesn’t make him a3C.

And yes I will take a breath as I did last time.

That will continue until you feel offended yet again.

Over to you!

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16 Apr 2024 12:50:30
So this time I distort facts to the outrageous and I get offended often. Just because you make offensive remarks doesn't mean I am offended. Attacking someone personally is just a really weak debate tactic in order to try and discredit their argument. It doesn't add any value to your argument and says more about you than me.

As for the Nylander analogy. So you're saying no one talks about how many more points/ goals a 3rd liner, like say Robertson might get if he played with Matthews and Marner. It only works one way and no one uses it in the opposite? Many of us have used the same type of analogy I did with Nylander. It is no different than saying if Nylander played on a San Jose for instance he wouldn't likely put up the same points. Your fishing to try and discredit again, That's all.

Project Acciari's points for a season and it's less than Kampf's. We project for seasons all the time. It's done often, even by hockey analysts. How come when I do it and it's a distortion of facts. Which you keep saying, but have yet to show how I've distorted anything. Just because you accuse it, doesn't make it true.

I have already stated before that this season Kampf's points are down. I also never said he would produce something like a 50-60 point season if he was 3C, so if that is what you are inferring I mean, then that would be on you. It's probably like 30-40 points and being very solid defensively. I'd be good with that as a 3C for $2.4M. You don't like him as 3C, that's fine.

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11 Apr 2024 16:51:52
Whats everyones thoughts on opening night line-up?

Bertuzzi Mathews Domi
Mcmann Tavares marner
Knies holmberg nylander
Dewar kampf reaves

Reilly lybushkin
Mccabe benoit
Edmonson Liljgren

Samsonov
Woll

I know some guys want reaves out. Should Robertson get a look. Do we need gregors speed? What do ya think?

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11 Apr 2024 20:27:07
I feel like a package of Liljegren and and Robertson should go towards a quality #2 RD. Benoit becomes the # 3D. Do teams even view those 2 as a decent package?

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11 Apr 2024 21:07:23
I really like Benoit, but if he's in the top 4 we have a problem. He's an excellent bottom pairing D, nothing wrong with that, but it is what UT is.

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11 Apr 2024 21:59:52
Package Brodie, Gregor, and Giordano for a solid player and have Timmins and Robertson as extras. Also just thought. Where would Jankrok fit in?

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12 Apr 2024 05:24:45
Would prefer to see Reaves as the 13th forward with Jarnkrok on the line with Kampf and Dewar.

Treliving MUST do something about the Leafs defense in the off season.
There are not many good RHD available among the free agents but I think Leafs should focus on trying to sign Matt Roy if he doesn’t reap with LA Kings.
About the only suitable RHD that I can see available are Matt Roy, Sean Walker and Dylan DeMelo.
All three could be potentially resigned by their current teams.

Offer Robertson plus a prospect to San Jose for Ferraro

Reilly ($7.5) - Roy ($5.5)
Ferraro ($3.25) - McCabe ($2)
Benoit ($1.35) - Liljegren ($3.25)
Edmundson ($2.5) - Timmins ($1.1)

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12 Apr 2024 12:50:11
Very disappointing WB. How quickly we forget our Leafs getting manhandled last year in playoffs. Reaves is a big part in a change. IMO. The team plays different with him in the lineup. Guys like MacDermaid (yesterday) aren’t running around looking to hurt people. If Reaves isn’t in the lineup game 1, I would be extremely disappointed in Sheldon’s decision making. Same goes for Benoit, he is a main stay.

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12 Apr 2024 12:54:44
@86Arens that’s exactly how I would have my lines too. Marner and Nylander are interchangeable but I like the rest. Brodie is off your list too, I like it. Jarnkrok can sit for the first game or two until someone plays a bad game.

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12 Apr 2024 14:12:25
I still think you put your best two Dmen on the top pairing and go from there.

Rielly - McCabe
Edmundson - Liljegren
Benoit - Lyubushkin

On the forward group I really liked the Willy-JT-Marner line, they out shot Jersey 14-1 last night. Maybe Leafs should stack top 2 lines again and include Jarnkrok on the 3rd line.

Bert - Papi - Domi
Willy - JT - Marner
McMann - Holmberg - Jarnkrok
Knies - Kampf - Reaves
Dewar/ Robbie.

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12 Apr 2024 14:27:41
This is what I want, but won't happen

Domi Matthews Marner
Bert Tavares Nylander
McMann Kampf Knies
Dewar Holmberg Reaves

Reilly McCabe
Edmundson Liljgren (otherwise Brodie)
Benoit Lyubushkin.

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12 Apr 2024 18:16:56
@Tags and RLF, then you are going back to a two line team and defeating the purpose of what they’re trying to do. I hope they stick to the lines spread out and becoming harder to defend against.

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12 Apr 2024 20:35:05
Ckarky. The problem I have seen with the 3 lines spread out is that the Leafs 3rd line has trouble defending. I think McMann Kampf and Knies would surprise people in the playoffs with contributions and they would be solid defensively. Right now, I don't really see a line that can shut teams top line down. And shutting teams down in the playoffs is as important as the ability to have balanced scoring threats imo.

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12 Apr 2024 22:04:58
I know Clarky.
I just don't gave much trust in the 3L defensively as RLF is eluding too. If Marner and Nykander switched, then I would be better with it.
I think it's definitely something Tre needs to explore in the off season, either a 2C, like Lindholm and move Tavares down (dreaming about getting Lindholm for $5/ $5.5M on a show me contract since he's not doing well after the trade) . Or Leafs pick up an actual 3C who defends and has offense as well.

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13 Apr 2024 00:06:32
Leafs forever…. They can’t package Brodie, Gregor and Gio as none of them will be under contract once the season ends.

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14 Apr 2024 11:18:12
I’m with RFL I don’t think holmberg can be our 3C but I’d try nylander kampf and knies this is the downside of keeping domi on the wing limits what the leafs can do in their bottom six like I still like domi in the middle and Tavares as the 3C.

Bert Matthews marner
Jarnkrok domi nylander
Knies Tavares mcmann
Dewar kampf reaves
Holmberg robbie

That 3rd line could be a problem matchup wise for other teams and when they take reaves out and put holmberg in they have a defensive line.

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11 Apr 2024 13:13:09
What do you guys think it would take to get Jake Middleton? $2.45M for another season. I know he is an LD, but if the Leafs could get him and sign Roy, the top 4 is Rielly-Roy and Middleton-McCabe with Benoit-Timmins as the currently signed 3rd pair. Looks pretty solid enough. You could go cheaper and put Rielly and McCabe together and sign a guy like Carrier to play with Middleton.

Problem is that from what I can tell, Minny is still looking to compete now.

Would this work?

Minny
Liljegen RFA
Robertson RFA

Tor
Middleton $2.45M

Not sure if it works for Minny, as they have most of their team re-signed for next season. But it would allow them to move Johansson down to the 3rd line and try Robertson with Ek and Boldy, Liljegren would slot into 3RD and they get a little younger on the overall.

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11 Apr 2024 17:31:13
RLF if you think Middleton can play 2LD, then I'm in. I would, however, like to get a mid pick back if possible (we are giving Minny to young cost controlled RFA's) .
I like targeting Roy as well, he is high on my UFA list.

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11 Apr 2024 21:39:21
Looks good to me. I like Middleton well enough as well.

McCabe looks good on his offside right now, but is that something we want to commit to going forward? Depends on what's available I guess.

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12 Apr 2024 05:30:27
What really hurts is that Dubas could have had Middleton from San Jose for a 2nd plus a prospect but instead choice to trade for Giordano (2 - 2nds & 3rd) when he could have signed Giordano in the summer for nothing.
Another one of Dubas’ multitude of blunders.
Instead Minnesota sent San Jose a 2nd plus Kahkonen for Jake Middleton.

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13 Apr 2024 00:07:18
Not a good 3rd pair.

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10 Apr 2024 22:11:50
To Boston: Nylander
To Toronto: Pastarnak
1 for 1, Pasta is just better than Nylander

To Edmonton: Robertson, Knies, Marner (Barring he waives his no move clauses)
To Toronto: McDavid and '25 1st

To Toronto: Rempe and Trouba
To New York: Kampf, Holmberg

To Predators: Samsonov, Niemela and EDM 1st
To Toronto: Saros

Leafs get better this way

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11 Apr 2024 03:49:22
I like it. Great plan.

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11 Apr 2024 13:07:10
It would be the leafs including the first to Edmonton not the other way around. Kamph and Holmberg don’t get just Trouba. And Rempe is a clown show.

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11 Apr 2024 13:38:10
If Pastranak is “just way better than Nylander “ then why would Boston consider such a trade?

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