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26 Oct 2020 07:48:41
I'm guessing if leafs play the way they should their 1st rounder will be 17-32

With U of Michigan if they play have 4 in top 10. Power RHD d partner iof York, Hughes 2nd pairing for now but skates like his bro's. Johnson damn good passer and Lucius damn good scorer. Then minny boy Beniers no chance with those 5

Won't get CHL top 5
Guenther, ClarkeRHD, ChaykaLHD, lambos, and Unfortunetly mason mctavich(love to get this kid will go around 15 at moment)

Won't get euro top guys
Lysell, tuormaala, edvinnson, Ruty or Rosen

Have a chance with a few Russians
Chibikuv,luzukin,palchik,poktopov or grushnikov

How about goalies
Cossa or wallstedt probably not if pick after 25

Isaac belliveau qmjhl

Love the name
Offensive LHD

Cole Sillinger whl
Great 2 way center

Brennen Othmann
Will break out this year if OHL plays

Joseph Roy qmjhl
Once saint johns actually starts playing the way they should he will lead team in points

Zach lheureaux qmjhl
Kid can dance with puck once he learns to play D he will be good

If cossa and wallstedt off board by time leafs pick next year these 5 I'd go for

Early draft predictions

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25 Oct 2020 22:16:21
I am not saying trade Kane for marner

But in crunch time Kane is better

Leafs trade marner

Coyotes young player plus 3 first round pics

End season

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26 Oct 2020 00:11:02
Why are u mentioning Kane when deal is with Arizona

The Kane vs Marner debate only makes marner look better. The fact it has an argument on both ends makes marner look awesome since Kane is awesome so thanks

Marner has 8 years to get 3 cups 1 art ross and I think an mvp but not sure on that. Brain little foggy

The fact a 23 yr old can be compared to Kane I’d totally stay away from Arizona deal and just hope marner continues to improve. None of the picks or prospects in return for marner could end up being marner

Pass

But I’m sure there is a good argument on the other end I’ll read.

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26 Oct 2020 00:16:54
Coyote won't lol.

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26 Oct 2020 03:37:43
Since this is the new debate I'll add my two cents.

I prefer Kane to Marner. Get that out of the way lol.

Based on stats Kane is marginally ahead. Those types of differences statistically are insignificant though.

Kane won 3 Cups Marner won zero. One thing we all forget though, Marner makes 11 now. Kane won when he and his buddy made SIGNIFICANTLY less. Leafs didn't go all in like chicago did at the time.

I do believe Kane is the better player but most of that is personal bias. I would also like a couple guys on the team with a winning attitude. JT is an older guy but he has accomplished nothing in his career. Yes, those Islanders teams weren't the best but still. I think Kane brings more of a leadership quality and an effort every night than I see from Marner. Marner looked like dog rubbish after that play-in round and then admitted he didn't really give a rubbish anyway. Those kinds of attitudes have really started to bother me about this team.

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26 Oct 2020 05:06:50
I wasn’t going to get sucked in, I thought it was so obvious Mackin is on a bender and has been drunk for a week. I actually didn’t think it was even a debate. Lol. But ok. Here’s my two cents:

Nobody in their right mind trades a Marner type player for a Kane type player at their current stages of their career.

That’s all I got.

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25 Oct 2020 22:10:13
To fla. Nylander Holl
To leafs Weegar Tippett 2nd 2021

Weegar signs 3.5 per for 4 years

1st Line
Robertson Matthews Tippett
Good for 100+ goals😁
Hyman Tavares Marner
Vesey Kerfoot Mikheyev
Simmonds Thornton Spezza
Then there is Boyd Barabanov Anderson Engvall in the warehouse

Look at the D
Rielly Weegar
Muzzin Brodie
Dermott Lehtonen
Bogosian

Freddy
Campbell

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26 Oct 2020 00:13:49
I love it. Not dealing nylander just putting 3 goal scorers on 1 line and hoping they don’t play keep away from 1 another

Solves the cap until dubas gives 2 million too much for weegar

I know weegar is rooting for this. Players know Toronto place to be to get $$$$$ unless your Dermott 😭.

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26 Oct 2020 03:38:55
We'll put Craiggers. When Dubas made all those deals and caved he kind of opened the flood gates. If Robertson scores 50 this year (hypothetical) how can you deny him 11.5/ 5 when his contract is up for renewal? You can't.

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25 Oct 2020 14:50:13
NJ
Kerfoot 3.5
Liljegren .863

Leafs
Mcloed .863
Bastian ELC
Zutterland ELC

NJ needs more experienced NHL talent and with Zajac gone at end of season, Kerfoot makes a great 3C for them that can move up the lineup when needed or play the wing and penalty kill. NJ has loads of good forward prospects, but a little light on D prospects, especially NHL ready. Liljegren fills an area of need as they seem to be doing just one year vet deals to fill out their D this year. NJ has lots of cap space to use both this year and next.

Tor gets a young 3/4C who has really worked on his defensive game. The perfect year for Toronto to bring in a guy like Mcloed as they have Spezza and Thornton in the mix. They also pick up two close to, or maybe ready prospects to move into the bottom 6 either this year or next. Both are hard working, gritty types. Leafs also create 3.5 in cap space.

Basically works out to Liljegren for Mcloed and Kerfoot for Bastian and Zutterland.

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25 Oct 2020 15:51:14
Funny how leafs fought Nylander so hard but caved into Marner and after two seasons he hasn’t come close to earning his ticket. The bar to earn 10.5 million must be Patrick Kane. Marner isn’t anywhere near Kane who is coming up on 32 years old.

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25 Oct 2020 17:23:10
Kane's Best season is already played but Marner dont, and kane ppg 1.05 and Marner 0,97 Who is 23year old and still better season Come to future, kane is old and he already played Best season. First 4 season kane didn't do much vs. Marner. I want Marner stay to leafs not kane play Leafs never thanks. Kane is good not god remember that and he is 32years old. Summasummarum Marner is better and younger that kane when Marner played 1000games. let's see, nobody no who is better when Marner play 1000games. You are fanatic kane fan and i like Marner play. Both Cap is too much but 99% Hockey fans choose younger Marner own team than kane. Maby kane is too old and he can play couble season 70-80points play,
So kane is gone and Marner is future ppg player. Easy selection Marner.

This is Leafs web site go to hawks web site write kane kane kane kane and kane funny stories. Thanks.

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25 Oct 2020 18:13:53
Age 19/ 20’season yr2-5 Kane

317gms 105g 192 a 297pts

Age 19/ 20 season yr1-4 marner
300 gms. 83g. 208a. 291pts

Since signing 10+million deal Kane

396gms. 184g. 281a. 465pts. 2.17ppg

Since signing 10+million deal marner

59 gms. 16g. 51a. 67pts. 2.13ppg

Outside the cups Kane won before his big contract please show me how Kane is so much better?

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25 Oct 2020 18:50:58
Dave just got schooled. lol.

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25 Oct 2020 19:21:01
Funny, pretty sure neither Kane or Marner was in this trade. lol.

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25 Oct 2020 20:28:34
Yeah sorry bout that

Deal wise kerfoot and devils never a good trade partner. Kerfoot said hells no as being a harvard grad can’t stand Princeton

University rivals is a real thing

Kerfoot never “EVER” will play or cheer anything jersey.

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25 Oct 2020 20:33:20
That escalated quickly for a trade without either player lol.

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25 Oct 2020 21:12:20
Your analysis always make me think Craiggers. Forgot about the princeton rivalry.

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25 Oct 2020 21:19:30
If leafs won’t use Liljegren I’m sure jersey would.

Murray Subban
Butcher Severson

Then Liljegren Carrick and a LD for bottom pairing/ 7th

McLeod has had rough go due to being 12th overall pressure. Good player and fit right into bottom 6 for leafs. Cheap and nhl level that’s what leafs need for bottom 6

Vesey kerfoot Simmonds 3rd

Barbasov, Thornton, spezza, McLeod, Boyd
All solid bottom 3/ extra 2 guys

So Lilly for McLeod I’d go for.

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25 Oct 2020 22:03:09
Princeton rivalry an interesting component. I wonder what would happen if he got traded there as he doesn't have a no trade. Would he refuse to report? Does it go that deep?

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25 Oct 2020 22:55:36
Seattle expansion

Thomas hickey
Calvin pickard
Jason zucker
Alexander kerfoot
Shea theodore
Keegan kolesar
Matthew barzal
Ethan bear

8 most eligable players in nhl who could be both drafted by whl and expansion Seattle team

Calvin pickard could easily become 1st player to be picked by both Seattle teams and Vegas expansion

Weirdness

Kerfoot denied Seattle whl to go to Harvard. He has nothing against Seattle though except his dads whitecaps are huge rivals to Seattle’s Sounders mls team.

Fun stuff and thanks leafs life always try recalling my many adventures in the sports and Rumors I heard years ago. Starts to get foggy with age but still fun recalling.

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26 Oct 2020 00:26:58
Good point after all back then he couldn’t sign over a million so going anywhere but jersey was an option. Now @ 3.5 if dealt I’m sure he’d report

I think it’s more jersey end now as they haven’t forgot and 3.5 wouldn't sit well with them.

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26 Oct 2020 01:21:09
Do professional athletes carry school rivalries with them to the big leagues? They are professionals aren’t they?

I would think Kerfoot refusing to sign with Jersey might have had something to do with them not being a very good team than a school rivalry.

But I’ve never spoken to Kerfoot so I don’t know.

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26 Oct 2020 03:40:18
Yeah they do. I'm a big college football guy and spent a lot of time down south training. If your a crimson tide player that gets drafter you hold that hatred until the day you die.

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26 Oct 2020 04:55:52
I don’t know. I guess it’s possible. I just always figure you leave rivalries behind when you move on. Like when a player gets traded to another team. He’s no longer a leaf, so no longer is a Montreal rival type thing. Now he has a new team and a new team rival.

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26 Oct 2020 12:26:28
When kerfoot was drafted jersey just went to the cup
The following 4 years they regressed quickly

Think league should do what it does to European players to the college players. Right now if a college players stays 4 years in college they are ufa when they get out but with same RFA elc signing rules.

CHL players have 3 years
College 4 years
European 7 years

I think a player should only get drafted 1 time and team he gets drafted to unless his rights are traded must play for that team or not play in AHL or nhl for 7 years.

If you refuse to sign as an RFA to team that drafted you and team won’t deal you you are stuck out of league until you are official ufa. Easy solution

Stop giving these college guys the option
They do it the most.

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25 Oct 2020 08:19:28
Anderson
To Carolina
for a 2nd and a 3rd

Then trade
Holl, a first, a 2nd and Kerfoot
To Columbus
Korpisalo and Savard

Sign Soderberg for 2yts x 2 mill

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25 Oct 2020 11:30:13
So Andersen is a 2nd and 3rd, which means Korpisalo is a 1st and 2nd I assume. Which leaves Holl and Kerfoot for Savard.

Does Kekalainen buy dinner first? I hope he lights a smoke for you after.

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25 Oct 2020 14:27:49
Columbus has to expose a goalie and only have the 2 eligible so don’t see them dealing 1 unless a goalie contracted for 2021-22 is going back.

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25 Oct 2020 23:37:02
Extend dell in january and send him in the deal?

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26 Oct 2020 00:31:14
Good idea Randy

Never thought of that.

Problem now is holl and kerfoot both being eligible to protect or expose now leafs lose that

This year may be the year of extensions after January due to this expansion and many 1 year deals signed this offseason.

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25 Oct 2020 00:56:38
Next years big European signing prediction

Nickles Jensen RW 6'3 218 pds Denmark left handed 27 years old

Watched this kid in Oshawa for 2 years. Real fast and big. Got drafted by Canucks 1st round then dealt to rangers.

Hated playing in Hartford and didn't like being in states. Was offered hockey scholarship to various American schools but chose to play in ohl. Loved being drafted by Vancouver and hated being dealt. New York back in 2016 made him a QO but he left and joined team in Finland. Has played with Mikko Lehtonen 3 years now and are close.
Summer workout pal is Freddie so if leafs resign Freddie and keep Mikko happy they very well may have a great speedster coming to team. (Compared to Jesper fast/Michael Grabner speed but power forward size)

Dubas scouted Jensen and wanted him when managing the Sau before Oshawa got to pick him at import draft a few picks prior.
Dubas is doing everything he can to set this up. Now it's up to Jensen who has learned to play a 2 way checking game in the K as that was his big weakness.

Hopefully the stars line up as he will be a perfect bargain next season since leafs need them

Sign Jensen big win for leafs

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25 Oct 2020 05:10:03
Looked him up because I recalled the name. I remember exactly when this kid was drafted. He looked like he had some amazing potential. Looks like he still does.

Not a huge fan of the older signings. If you were to sign a 28 year old you have two options. He signs, plays amazing and hits the open market or he plays like garbage and hits the open market.

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25 Oct 2020 11:45:26
I guess he must like cold and snow.

Wait and see until a) how Lehtonen plays this year in the NHL, and b) how Jensen does playing in the KHL without Lehtonen and c) if Dubas is still calling the shots lol.

Dubas does seem to have a habit of trying to keep a good thing together, so if Lehtonen does well in the nhl, and Jensen still hold his own in the KHL proving he’s not just a beneficiary of playing beside Lehtonen, and Dubas is still calling the shots, then you may very well be on to something.

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25 Oct 2020 12:07:35
Yeah but with leafs cap situation it’s 1 and done moving forward it seems. Maybe leafs don’t protect Mikheyev and he becomes his replacement

So many options

I’ll keep my scouting goggles on and update

Surprised this made rumor page not talk page. Boggles the mind sometimes. lol.

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25 Oct 2020 14:30:18
Jensen is a winger not dman. Your points are well made though. I’m just thinking post expansion after leafs lose Mikheyev and Hyman possibly bails.

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25 Oct 2020 14:32:00
Free medical care.

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25 Oct 2020 22:07:14
Not for glasses. They don’t come cheap. Looks like I need a new set. Maybe MPH isn’t the only one that can’t read. My bad.

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26 Oct 2020 00:36:09
Love your comments

I say if your company won’t cover glasses you in wrong company.

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26 Oct 2020 04:58:05
Tell me about it.

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24 Oct 2020 23:22:33
TOR Trades Kerfoot, Holl, Engvall and 2nd pick to NYI Pulock, Nelson 20% retained and Bellows

Leaf's exploit Isles need to free up cap space by taking Nelson cap hit and land Pulock and Bellows. This allows NYI to sign Barzal and they can use Holl to fill that spot affordably.

Leafs send 6.75M in cap space to Isles
NYI sends 4.8M + likely 3.75M Pulock RFA contract.

Leaf's then trade Nylander to WIN for Roslovic, 1st rd pick. let's Jets replace some of the goals Laine provided so they can get rid of him and Leaf's get a cost control 2nd line winger and a 1st rd pick

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25 Oct 2020 03:33:13
Don't see this happening. They need to free up space to sign 3 guys. Pulock one of them.

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25 Oct 2020 11:53:42
Toews already got traded. Barzal and Pulock are the two left. According to cap friendly, they have $9M in space. They are going to be real tight. They will definitely have to dump more salary.

Pulock is probably going to get more than $3.75M. Corsica has him ranked 25th for his position. He is a top 50 defenseman in the NHL.

And besides all that, Leafs are already over the cap themselves. We already either have to make a trade or run a short roster. How are we going to pay for this?

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25 Oct 2020 14:45:22
What a horribly typical pro-Leaf trade.

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25 Oct 2020 23:36:08
6.75 million for 3 players isn’t something lou would do right now

Maybe Robertson Sandin and Liljegren could possibly get lou thinking but then leafs would be 7 million over cap with just 80% of Nelson alone. Then leafs would have 1.15 just to sign pulock and that’s Just to remain Allowable 10% over cap during off-season

Maybe those 3 mentioned for pulock is duable. Then lou has 9 million to get barzal. Very duable

So
Robertson Liljegren and Sandin for pulock

Would leaf fans like this?

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24 Oct 2020 03:23:18
Tor gets
Kane RW

Chicago gets
Marner RW

Tor gets
Wilson RW
Riat LW/C/RW


Washington gets
Nylander RW
Dermott D

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Kane
Robertson/Tavares/Wilson
Mikheyev/Spezza/Kerfoot
Vesey/Thornton/Simmonds
Extras:Boyd & Barabanov

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Brodie
Muzzin/Holl
Sandin/Bogosain
Extras: liljegren and Lethenon

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg
Extras: Dell

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24 Oct 2020 13:29:02
Another Nylander trade. It seems many posters here really want the Leafs to get rid of him.

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24 Oct 2020 15:37:01
I would not have let the Nylander situation get as far along as it did last year, this as I would have traded him then versus now.
Father did it twice when he played and the apple does not fall far from the tree.

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24 Oct 2020 18:22:45
I agree Nylander or Marner should have been traded when they held out. Probably Nylander as he was first up and that sets the tone. Off Marner 8x8 or trade him like Nylander after that.

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24 Oct 2020 22:52:41
It was so foolish, it was so obvious Marner wasnt going to hold out. Marner even admitted after signing that he was unwilling to miss any training camp. He could have been signed for 8M long term easy.

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25 Oct 2020 02:59:44
I don’t trade Marner for Kane but it does show you what marner has to become to justify his contract and he isn’t close to it.

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25 Oct 2020 03:33:58
You wouldn't trade Marner for kane? Kane is still a legitimate superstar with 3 rings. I do this all day long if it's a one for one.

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25 Oct 2020 23:39:46
I’d just give it time. Either this stud duds thing works and dubas looks like a genius or by end of year 3 (2021-22) of this experiment dubas is gone and team gets blown up anyways

After all 4th year will be last available year to deal Matthews

Gee how that may just work out.

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