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27 Apr 2025 21:24:33
Jets trade Hellebuyck

Leafs trade Kampf

I have never been a fan of Hellebuyck seems to me every time Toronto played Winnipeg the Leafs literally him up.

If you look back on ILYA SAMSONOV time in Toronto there were times and long stretches where he played well but at the end of the day never at playoffs. So we are left in leaf land to write in his Leafs bio that he was a stiff.

With the cap going up 40% the JETS are ok with Hellebuyck earning $8.5 million over the next 6 seasons but the JETS have to spend to the Cap Ceiling and I don't know if that's there plan or not

Just want to make it clear this guy was never Johnny Bower

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27 Apr 2025 23:40:51
Surely you jest.

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28 Apr 2025 02:06:18
Not sure what you are talking about?

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28 Apr 2025 10:42:10
Waterbuffalo49


I’m saying Hellebuyck is useless when chips are down.

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28 Apr 2025 23:37:57
@DM maybe they shouldn't start him so much. Freddy looks a lot better after leaving TO.

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29 Apr 2025 00:02:12
Ah!
He does seem to struggle in the playoffs!
Not just this year.

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25 Apr 2025 13:18:38
At The Draft.

Calgary Trades
RAndersson*
7th Round Pick 2026

Toronto Trades
Kampf
Benoit
Hildeby (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025


*Flames retain 50% of RAndersson's expiring contract next season.


Treliving last off season and at the deadline focused on Defense more than Forwards which is showing how important that was, RAndersson would fit in very well on The Leafs and a proposal like this get's the summer going on the right foot.

Flames have some good prospects especially on The Right side of Defense that makes RAndersson available, Kampf is their 4th line Center, Benoit is a very serviceable Defenceman and adding Hildeby and a 2nd Rounder makes it make sense for The Flames to pull the trigger.


Thoughts ?

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25 Apr 2025 15:22:44
Pinballisback

The Leafs are set on defence as is for the next 2 seasons

McCabe Tanev
Reilly Convo
Benoit. OEL

BENOIT is only making $1.35 million for the next 2 seasons after this playoffs. He plays steady and he is the most cost efficient player on Leafs roster. In offseason I hope everyone is resigned and Leafs are able to sign a really good top 9 forward.

I think Cowen cracks lineup in Toronto 2025-26. Cowan will smash the most points in playoffs Marner had in London . Marner had 44 points in 18 games and Cowan currently has 21 points. in 8 games. Cowan was a year older than Marner in both there last year of junior.

The Leafs are in great shape this playoffs I think the only 2 teams that can defeat the Leafs are FLORIDA and DALLAS . The Stars look pretty dangerous this post season but we will see how how things work out.

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26 Apr 2025 01:12:32
On what planet does that happen? Flames laugh their ass off at that offer.

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26 Apr 2025 16:31:12
I really doubt Cowen is ready next season. He needs at least 1 yr in the AHL. But we'll get a good starting look at him in his 10 games at the start of next season.

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25 Apr 2025 12:31:27
Leafs trade Kampf
raisaitl earns
New Jersey 4 th 2025

Marner I think he is using all the leverage he can but at the end of the day he stays!

He and they rest of the core group seem to be tight friends

Over an 8 year deal the Leafs may not like it but they can go to $14 million that's what Draisaitl earns .

Where is he going to go where the team is as good as Leafs. He knows other players need to be paid. He has to understand the Leafs don't care what they pay a player but they only can sent to the cap.

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25 Apr 2025 13:49:05
Marner will get exactly what Matthews gets.

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25 Apr 2025 07:54:28
Leafs trade Jarnknok

SAN Jose 4 th

I'm just catching a little of Tampa vs Florida game 2

Lighting are just awful can't enter zone on power play and giving up long stretch passes

The lightning are playing much worse than Ottawa

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23 Apr 2025 12:03:07
Detroit trade 4 th

Leafs trade Kampf


CLARKY

Reilly isn't awful

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23 Apr 2025 14:35:30
Mo usually steps it up in the playoffs. No surprise.

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24 Apr 2025 01:49:13
His cap number will look fantastic in 2 years he is not a problem at all . His plus/ minus was minus 17 at its worst and he finished -8. He has a defence partner that supports him so watch his plus/ minus next season . If Toronto beats Ottawa the tough text will be Florida so in a few weeks we see things very clearly they must end Ottawa in as few games as possible so they re rested .

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17 Apr 2025 21:37:27
Was talking to someone at work today about the Marner contract.

Does he end up with the first max contract in the NHL or close to it? With the cap set to rise this fast and him being the only real AAA superstar to hit the market in years, does a team like SJ offer 20m?

I can absolutely see it happening.

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18 Apr 2025 03:13:52
Anything over $14m per would shock me. Over $15m per, and I might actually pass out.

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18 Apr 2025 20:25:58
Totally agree with that.

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19 Apr 2025 18:21:54
Well not with Toronto maybe a basement team would but even then teams like San Jose have young stars that will eventually need to be paid.

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23 Apr 2025 11:44:54
No Ottawa player has more than 1 point they are in deep trouble.

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24 Apr 2025 01:01:07
If Marner wants more than $14 million per year then his heart isn’t really in Toronto.
It’s in his wallet!
If he hasn’t signed by the time the Stanley Cup is awarded the Leafs should trade his negotiating rights.
Is that allowed under a NTC/ NMC?
I do not know?
They wouldn’t get much but anything would help.

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16 Apr 2025 02:28:26
Toronto off season trades and Ufa signings,

Toronto trades Robertson and Holmberg
To
Philadelphia for RFA Tyson Forester

Toronto signs UFA Ryan Donato 3 yrs x 3.5 million

Third Line
Steeves Donato Forester

Toronto trades Kampf to Utah for a 4th

Toronto signs UFA Brett Leason

Fourth Line

Lorentz Laughton Leason

Toronto trades Domi, Rielly, and Jarnkroc
To
Seattle for Vince Dunn, 3rd and Fourth

Leafs sign Knies, Tavares, Marner

If Marner leaves as a UFA
Toronto will look to sign Kane or Boeser

Cowan will play for the Marlies next year

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16 Apr 2025 12:10:41
Less than zero interest in Patrick Kane.

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16 Apr 2025 19:49:49
I know but Matthews would love to play with him, sign him for one year and then bring up Cowan.

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17 Apr 2025 00:00:02
Pretty sure Matthews is fine with Knies.

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17 Apr 2025 09:12:53
@bob1965 why are you so down on kane the guy is still effective at his age 20+ goals 60-65 points and that’s one a crappy Detroit team.

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18 Apr 2025 02:43:23
And minus 16….

McMann has 20 goals and plus 12.

Kane wants to play for 3 million sure . Not a nickel more.

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15 Apr 2025 07:28:22
Leafs trade Jarnknok & Kampf

Sharks Trae 4 th round pick

Just create more cap space

COWAN didn't have a great season in London I think he was bored but the playoffs are here and he has jam back in his game

Games 6. Goals 6 assists 10 = 16 points

This guy is ready NHL

NEXT SEASON LEAFS MUST FINALLY HAVE 3 SCORING LINES


KNIES MATTHEWS MARNER
McMann TAVARES NYLANDER
COWEN Holmberg ROBINSON

Maybe they bring another Center in Jeez I still cry in my beer that Laughton cost the GREBENKIN & FIRST ROUND PIC


SHANAHAN HAS TO WATCH TRELIVING AND HIS TRADES CLOSELY

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15 Apr 2025 08:36:11
Yikes that third line is awful I’m honestly on the fence with Cowan making the leafs next year I mean I don’t remember him much in camp this year but I think he’s close could he play along side jt and willy? So much hinges on what marner does.

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15 Apr 2025 10:32:47
Goat2.0

Marner isn’t leaving he has the most points ever recorded by a Leaf if he stays. Things like that mean something to players

I don’t know if LEAFSare lowballing him or what but at end of day the two sides will strike a deal


If gladly jr took less to stay here and he did had he went to free agency he gets more than 500 million. Then you think Marner who has really good friends on team will leave.

I can’t see Marner going to Pittsburgh and that’s the team that will try hardest to steal him from Toronto.

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15 Apr 2025 14:40:34
@DM Mirch will get significant orders from a lot of teams, not just Pitts.

Vladdy is in a different sport on a different team and a different person. Couldn't I also point out Kawhi left? Lol.

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15 Apr 2025 21:49:25
This is Marner home town marks my words he signs with Leafs

He is the best player on Leafs

Keep a eye on Cowen he will crush Marner stats in London playoffs


Marner 18 games 16 goals 28 assists = 44 points
Cowan 6 games 6 goals 10 assists = 16 points.

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16 Apr 2025 09:13:48
He is not the best player on this team. I'd still give that to Mathews.

Willy is growing on me as well.

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17 Apr 2025 09:20:20
@DM all those things are nice but you think Mitch really cares about being from the gta if anything that’s a strike this guys takes more heat because of it at the end of the day there’s gonna be a lot of money thrown at him and it will be the kind of money that will be hard to say no to teams like Chicago Anaheim San Jose are dying for a superstar player. At the end of the day I lean more towards letting him walk just for something different I think Cowan is a prototype of marner so idk hard to say right now.

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24 Apr 2025 01:10:37
I can’t see Marner signing with a rebuilding team after all of these years in the playoffs.
The contenders do not have the cap space to sign Marner as they are already committed to their own Astor’s.
Perhaps a more competitive team with cap space who are on the verge of jumping into playoff contention like Utah HC.

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12 Apr 2025 08:03:56
Off season
Marner walks
Trade kampf to LA for a 4th 2025
Trade Jarnkrok to Hawks for a 5th 2025
Trade Rielly Steeves Niemela to Kraken for Firkus
Please Kraken take Rielly



Resign Tavares 7 million per for 3 years
Bennett 7 million per for 5 years
Roslovic 3 million per for 3 years
Appleton 3 million per for 3 years
Perbix 3 million per for 5 years
Provorov 8 million per for 7 years


Knies Matthews roslovic
Cowan Tavares Nylander
McMann Bennett Domi
Robertson Laughton Appleton
Holmberg


McCabe Tanev
Provorov Carlo
OEL Perbix
Benoit


Stolarz Woll

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15 Apr 2025 08:41:00
Your evaluations are off I think Bennett starts with an 8 unless he stays with Florida roslovic I like as a target but as a 3C and he makes minimum of 5 mil he’s been good this year Appleton and prebix are 4th liner and bottom pairing players yous can have 6 players that are just as good for what your giving them and provorov I would stay away from he’s not that good.

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11 Apr 2025 22:51:26
tor: cowen, Nemiela, robertson, 2025 3rd

chi: bedard

I wish the leafs had picks with value. would a deal with multiple not terrible peices work in a move for bedard. it could set the leafs up with a soid 2c (soon as JT spends 2 years working on faceoffs with him) .

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12 Apr 2025 01:44:17
I often try to move a bunch of pieces but there's is no way that 3rd isn't at least 2 first to get that conversation started.

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12 Apr 2025 02:38:25
JT better work on plus/ minus with him too. Zero chance Chicago takes that offer however.

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12 Apr 2025 06:13:41
I don't understand why CHI even answers the call.

All of this+more doesn't get you a 1st overall. It just isn't getting there.

Celebrities for Bedard is the kind of deal they want.

This also doesn't help short or long term tbh.

Bedard won't be great for a few years (if ever) . Leafs need to win now. It's a losing prop.

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08 Apr 2025 20:08:49
Not that Rielly would likely waive for SJ, but if he would.

SJ
Rielly $7.5M

Tor
Misskey ELC
2025 1st(Dal)

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09 Apr 2025 14:03:40
Reilly is awful and other teams see how bad he is in his own end. It’s almost getting to a point where we are going to have to pay to rid of him.

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10 Apr 2025 02:13:47
I can’t see any team giving up much for Reilly.
I would imagine the only team he would consider waiving his NMC for would be Vancouver.
Would Vancouver even want him?

If Boeser isn’t resigned by late June and intends to walk away for nothing, would Canucks trade Boeser’s signing rights for Reilly.
That way Canucks aren’t left empty handed.
If Marner walks Leafs can try to sign Boeser.
If Marner signs before July 1st Leafs might still be able to trade Boeser’s rights to another club who wants 1st crack at him prior to free agency.
At the very least, Leafs would have cleared $7.5 million off of their cap and can use it to strengthen their defense?

Just a passing thought.

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10 Apr 2025 10:47:06
I agree WB 49 for the most part but I don’t reallly care for Brock Boeser. Is he gonna be much different than prior superstars? Streaky, not very aggressive, would he raise his game for playoffs? I hope we go after proven winners like Bennett.

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10 Apr 2025 15:09:09
Rielly has been a top 4 D for years. Yes, he is having a down year, but a late first and a project prospect is not a big ask. I think you guys are devaluing him too much based on one really poor year.

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10 Apr 2025 15:19:12
Reilly to Van for a second, just to dump his salary. Let Marner walk. There’s 20 million in savings . Lock up Knies (4@7m bridge ) and Tavares (4@5.5).

Trade/ move/ dump…. Domi, Kamph, Jarnkok, Benoit.

Sign Ehlers, Bennett and Ekblad.

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