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07 Dec 2023 18:56:05
I wonder how motivated Vegas would be to move Roy he's currently their 4th line centre making 3 mill would be a good fit for the leafs third line
Tor liljgren steeves (adds cap dollars going out)
Vgk: Roy signed for 4 years only 26
If they say no offer the same deal for Stephenson who's on an expiring deal making 2.75
1.) 07 Dec 2023 19:35:12
So you’re short on D but let’s trade one for a forward they don’t need?
2.) 08 Dec 2023 01:29:40
When your defense is the weakest part of the team it would seem like a poor idea to trade a defenseman for another forward!
3.) 08 Dec 2023 10:11:45
Guys getting forwards that can play defensively is helping out overall defensive game and I would think the leafs target a defensemen as well plus I think laggeson has made a guy like liljgren expendable to me liljgren is just a good puck mover that’s it he isn’t physical on the smaller side and a guy that keefe doesn’t fully trust.
05 Dec 2023 13:55:20
Tor: 3rd (Nyi) steeves
Cbj: kuraly
Similar player to what they leafs had in accari and laferty good hard nose player who can bang in a puck every now and again
Tor: Timmons SDA
Wsh: edmudson
I don't think the leafs have to assets to land a big fish nor the cap space I've been on edmudson for most of this year he's big physical and can play both sides of the ice timmons is a nice story but i don't see him in the plans and SDA left North America cause he didn't get a chance I'm sure he would come
Back if he could have a chance to play with on the same team as ovi
Tor: 5th (Cgf) Timmons
Sjs: Ruta
Plan B ruta is a bigger player and reminds me a lot of Brodie don't count on any offence but is sound defensively
1.) 05 Dec 2023 15:05:39
The deals look reasonable to me. Not necessarily what I would want done, but value seems right.
2.) 05 Dec 2023 18:08:26
Sda is not within the Leafs organizatin.
3.) 05 Dec 2023 19:00:02
Hrenklin. They still hold SDA's signing rights. He is on their Reserve list.
4.) 05 Dec 2023 19:21:44
The leafs still have SDA under contract they just loaned him to the khl per his request.
5.) 05 Dec 2023 21:11:37
I am corrected, thanks.
6.) 06 Dec 2023 02:56:53
The idea of another 30 year old defenseman (Edmundson) on the Leafs makes me ill.
7.) 06 Dec 2023 11:20:53
Kuraly is a nice target bringing size and physicality.
29 Nov 2023 12:53:50
Tor: domi
Nyi: JG pageau 500-775k retained
I think domi has been fine since moving to centre but I think this like fair tail story may be over with kampf not performing well this year and this team struggling to keep the puck out of their net this might be a good move for them yes the cap hit isn't great but pageau is a two way centre who is sound defensively wins lots of face offs and can put 15 goals in this islanders retain a bit but not much because he's got term only wrench would be domi has a modified no trade
1.) 29 Nov 2023 17:21:32
2 years at 5m after this year. No interest in that monstrosity of a contract Lou signed.
2.) 29 Nov 2023 20:29:37
It would be closer to 4 with retention.
3.) 29 Nov 2023 23:59:17
@Goat that's still a lot for a bottom 6 forward. I'd honestly rather have Engvall back.
21 Nov 2023 21:44:33
Tor: liljgren
Van: laferty
Who says no?
To me they should have never moved this player he's exactly what the fourth line and pk needs I've fallen out of favour of liljgren I think he's scared of the physical game and I also think he's been given enough chances to take a top 4 spot if Timmons comes back and is able to preform like he did in the preseason the leafs have their bottom pair guy
1.) 21 Nov 2023 22:17:26
So trade from a position of weakness and acquire a position you don’t need help in?
2.) 22 Nov 2023 00:53:16
We just gave Lafferty to Vancouver for a 5th round pick and now you want to trade Leafs second best defenseman for him.
Are you losing your mind?
3.) 22 Nov 2023 01:26:54
Our defense stinks, so trade one for a forward we just basically gave away for a 5th. ?.
4.) 22 Nov 2023 13:00:24
I Don't think the Leafs would give up Liljegren to get Lafferty back. They could have just traded Liljegren to start with and more than likely got a 2nd or 3rd for him.
17 Nov 2023 00:18:45
Tor: klingberg liljgren 1st abruzzese minten
Cgf: zadorov Tanev both 50%
I think to get rid of klingbergs contract and have retention on both players coming back the first is probably included liljgren is a controlled asset same with the two prospects sucks to lose minten but most scouts have him topped out as a 3rd line centre at best so I don't think the leafs can say no to moving him if the trade betters the team
Reilly Brodie
Zadorov tanev
Gio McCabe
Laggeson Timmons
1.) 17 Nov 2023 06:03:18
Man that hits hard.
If you want both (with 40% retention), this is probably accurate though.
Good prop, but I wouldn't do it.
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04 Dec 2023 14:16:33
Are the leafs better to stay away from tanev and look for a better deal? Seems like conroy is gonna do tree no favours in a trade..
Tanev is a player they could probably resign but he is another guy with a long list of injury history he's 33 idk how much game he has left. I was all for him when zadorov was included but now that he's not to me it doesn't make much sense.
1.) 04 Dec 2023 19:26:10
I'd take Tanev over Zadorov anytime, but I'd avoid resigning Tanev unless it's 1-2 years.
2.) 04 Dec 2023 23:16:52
Why does no one talk about Hanifin to Leafs? That's who I would get. have him and Rielly as offense on first to D lines, then add Walker and Peeke to go along with Brodie for RD and McCabe also adds physical play.
3.) 05 Dec 2023 00:25:05
@LL I agree Tanev has more tools but he also has hard miles I think there’s better options
@loxey unless Hanifin agrees on a contract I wouldn’t put the assets there leafs need to stay away from overpriced rentals look at what happened this offseason.
4.) 05 Dec 2023 03:24:33
@Loxley Hanafin is a LHD isn't he? I assume that's why.
5.) 05 Dec 2023 14:23:50
I think with Hanafin it is the cost to acquire him that scares many off.
6.) 05 Dec 2023 15:36:53
@Goat. I get that, but talk is he wanted to extend before the flames shut it all down, so any trade would have to be where he signs first, might cost a bit more but get a much younger better player. Tanev worries me with his age and health. we can find cheaper shut down tough guys to play on right D like Schenn played with Rielly last year
@LL yes he is a LD, but i'd very happy with a D lineup like this, that left side looks set for a while and with Brodie off the books next yera it's just a couple extra million to have hanifin
Rielly. Brodie
Hanifin. Walker
McCabe. Peeke
Giordano.
7.) 05 Dec 2023 19:29:32
@loxey Hanifin shut down negotiations as soon as rubbish went sideways as a fan I would hope there would be an extension in place before the trade is made.
8.) 05 Dec 2023 23:40:56
@goat. rumor I heard is Hanifin wanted to renew. anyway any leaf trade involving him would require a sign and trade.
26 Nov 2023 11:32:47
At this point idk what the leafs do their top line has played like their third line the 2nd line has been their best and the third line has been consistently scoring but to me tree put them in this position look at what he brought in Bertuzzi- good offensively poor defensively
Domi- same thing
Klingberg- same thing
Gregor- 4th line two way guy
He doubled down on offence and abandoned the defensive side of the puck I really don't know what the leafs could do at this point to make this team better other than try and get some defensive dmen but I mean accari looked great last night laferty has looked good as well imagine if they still played on this team
1.) 26 Nov 2023 12:25:29
I can't tell if you're against the signings or not. Bert and Domi have been great lately and Gregor is a perfect fourth liner.
2.) 26 Nov 2023 22:45:59
I’m kinda both ways I just think by thinking only offence with this lineup it has impacted this team a lot more than people think but I agree I like how domi and Bertuzzi have played the last week or so.
09 Nov 2023 04:19:35
I got to say the leafs are going no where this year and I hope to god they don't punt there first out the door I think this whole signing guys who are old and past their prime has got to stop this year we have two in gio and reaves in the past we have had jumbo patty spezza and before then we had guys like leech lindros newindyck etc bury klingberg in the press box and as for Benoit and laggeson they have been fine but they are 7-8 at best
08 Nov 2023 08:14:56
Does perry make sense for the leafs? I for one would love not having him light the leafs up every game they play but I don't want him at anything more then 1.5.
1.) 08 Nov 2023 13:20:10
Perry is making 4M. The most a team can retain is half. I also don’t think Chicago will want to retain. Each team gets two retention spots and they are already retaining on McCabe for us. But I’d love to have Perry. Proven playoff performer that knows how to win. I’d pay 4M on a one year deal if they move Bertuzzi.
2.) 08 Nov 2023 15:19:02
@Clarky17 I believe each team gets 3 retention spots.
If Leafs target Perry at the TDL, they would probably need another team for double retention to bring his AAV down to $1M.
I wouldn't mind Perry at the TDL.
3.) 08 Nov 2023 15:50:18
As Tags said, double retained Perry all day long.
4.) 09 Nov 2023 18:25:13
Each team gets 3 retentions as Tags said. If Perry comes this way, it will be at the deadline and double retention to keep the cap hit down. Have to remember since the Leafs are using LTIR all season to ice a team, not much cap space will be created at the TDL.
01 Nov 2023 04:13:05
So are we trading woll now..? Lol I think people need to relax when it comes to the new guys it hasn't even been 10 games yet and most of them have multiple points keep in mind it's an 82 game season there's some flaws to this team but they need time to figure it out at very least got to see what it looks like after 20 games
1.) 01 Nov 2023 05:46:31
Yeah, trade Mathews too. Hasn't been great through the last few games.
Also, resign JT 8 years 16 million.
2.) 01 Nov 2023 11:55:23
And we can resign Murray as well. I'm sure he'll be 100% after the year off.
3.) 01 Nov 2023 12:21:59
The hockey panel last night were quite prophetic, discussing before the game how a home game, after a successful extended road trip, can be troublesome for the Leafs.
We’ve seen this movie before. This team is like this year’s Blue Jays, an enigma of talent that shows up one game only to disappear the next.
I think many are to blame.
Certainly Woll looked very human last night. The top two lines were poor, Liligren was frightened to take a body check all night.
Reaves wanted to give punishment but he is unable to catch up with the play and plays a handful of minutes so why is he there.
Kampf is NOT a 3C. Gregor doesn’t get enough ice time to use his speed, shot and grit so he’s possibly improperly used.
Sorry gang but Knies is a BIG disappointment; he’s not a power forward. His best skill is change of direction on the cycle and only occasionally plays the body with some effort.
Let’s send him to the Marlies and see how he responds. Replace him with whoever you want: Robertson, McMann, Steeves or even the new guy Kieffer Bellows.
Give LAK credit for last night’s victory. They were the better team last night and perhaps overall.
Time to get to work.
Effort has nothing to do with how many games have been played, being early in the season or finding their chemistry and teamwork.
4.) 01 Nov 2023 13:56:38
Might as well re-sign Liljegren to a huge extension as well. 5x$5m seem about right? I mean, he is the 2nd best D-man on the team and quite valuable I am told on here.
Rsears. I agree with your last sentence 100%.
Reaves is Reaves. Honestly, I would forget about a set 4th line with him on it. I would double shift the big 4 with him on the wing with them now and then. Just tell him to go to the net and battle. Play him 5-6 mins a night and rotate most of the other bottom 5 as the true bottom "6". This would give the rest of the bottom 6 (5) more overall icetime.
Kampf, you know I disagree with you.
Knies I don't see an issue with. If people were thinking of Tom Wilson or something when "power forward" was used to describe him, I am sure they are very disappointed. He is a big man that can use his strength and long stick to protect the puck and battle in front. I have been happy with Knies and his effort.
LA deserved all the credit. They smothered the Leafs and the Leafs had no answer. The shot totals are very misleading to how the game went.
5.) 01 Nov 2023 18:02:06
RLF
I do agree that the effort has been there with Knies and should not be questioned.
But like Jarnkrok who also displays effort they are both not achieving measurable results.
I played with a fair number of guys who we described as having “million dollar legs and a two-cent head”.
They were all over the ice but with little result.
Knies will be a decent player but it’s going to take coaching and more time.
I’d love to have Trevor Moore back in the lineup!
6.) 01 Nov 2023 18:39:19
@Rsears. I don't think Bellows is an option to bring up. we was signed to Marlies. as a PTO and not a Leafs 2 way contract. i think Leafs would have to sign him. then waive him to add him to the team.
7.) 01 Nov 2023 22:25:43
Loxley, you’re right on Bellows.
He is in the right place now on a PTO with Marlies.
It would be a real nice win if he found his game in the AHL.
Has the tools but has never put it together. Still only 25yo, 6’1” 195, has an NHL wrist shot, decent speed and quickness and gets his nose dirty.
I haven’t seem play much so I might be disappointed. He has played 95 games with 14g and 14a; this is 12&12 in an 82 game season so better than what I expect from some current players.
But he’s where he should be!
08 Dec 2023 10:11:45
Guys getting forwards that can play defensively is helping out overall defensive game and I would think the leafs target a defensemen as well plus I think laggeson has made a guy like liljgren expendable to me liljgren is just a good puck mover that’s it he isn’t physical on the smaller side and a guy that keefe doesn’t fully trust.
07 Dec 2023 18:49:52
I’m not saying any of these players are bad but when it comes to minten and cowen there is zero incentive to rush them into an nhl job perfect example the leafs lost laferty because they wanted to give minten what 5 games and now laferty is exactly what this team need and has 7 goals on the year there has to be a fit you can’t just throw these kids to the wolves and hope they figure it out.
07 Dec 2023 18:45:34
I think that’s a tough one the kid would almost have to be a sure thing to be moving him for a high end guy like willy.
07 Dec 2023 10:05:24
Holmberg is not equal to kampf hence why he’s not on the team I would be very cautious in signing guys like Brodie and Tanev to multi year deals both are 33-34 this year so they will be 34-35 next as for your lineup again wishful thinking if you think cowen and minten are nhl ready by next year and then you want to put steeves next to them the leafs who easily be a bottom 10 team.
05 Dec 2023 19:21:44
The leafs still have SDA under contract they just loaned him to the khl per his request.
08 Dec 2023 10:13:15
Why not give jones some games to see he did have over 20 wins last year and we still have samsonov.
07 Dec 2023 10:09:23
Fair but if you played Clifford the way they play reaves how much trouble could he get into hahaha as for Shaw I agree he’s not a fighter but at this point the leafs need an upgrade from a fighter they need a guy they can actually play.
06 Dec 2023 12:37:51
I was actually thinking about this last night why didn’t the leafs just use Clifford in reaves role he’s signed and only make league min to further that point why didn’t they sign a guy like Logan Shaw to and nhl deal he’s been a point per game player with the marlies 6’4 200+ lbs instead of paying 1.3 for 3 years the more you look at the decision treliving has made the worse it looks on the leafs I mean laferty has 7 goals now.
05 Dec 2023 19:29:32
@loxey Hanifin shut down negotiations as soon as rubbish went sideways as a fan I would hope there would be an extension in place before the trade is made.
05 Dec 2023 19:27:23
Tavares next deal better be closer to 3 or else let him walk the leafs have found a few prospects who have done well in junior but it’s not the nhl if you think you can just throw in some young guys and it’s gonna work you will be disappointed I mean liljgren took 3-4 years to make the jump Robertson took a few years although injuries played a part I don’t see any leafs prospects being nhl ready next year.