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05 Feb 2023 00:44:28
Anyone else see rumours on chycrun to the leafs floating around apparently he took the coyotes out of his social media bios and has started following a bunch of the leafs stars sounds silly based on what I just said but maybe something imminent.?
1.) 05 Feb 2023 02:25:38
I imagine a deal for Chychrun would cost the Leafs their 2023 - 1st round pick, Rasmus Sandin and a 3rd round pick or prospect.
2.) 05 Feb 2023 02:29:21
If he goes to Boston . Just call off the playoffs and give then the cup.
3.) 05 Feb 2023 03:01:56
I saw that too, but I’ve also heard that he followed some of the leafs before had….
4.) 05 Feb 2023 03:47:34
I did see that I wonder if a deal is in place and will be announced sometime next week.
5.) 05 Feb 2023 10:56:02
The other thing that would add to this is I was listening to the Chris Johnson podcast and he was saying he talked to someone close to the leafs and they said it’s more likely the leafs add a dman than anything else.
6.) 05 Feb 2023 15:25:03
I’d almost rather add like gudas or schenn.
7.) 05 Feb 2023 15:46:17
Big B--- I'd take Chychurn over any d man in the leauge right now that contract the point production the defensive ability. Could be a little more physical sure but OMG compared to the two you mention No comparison. Of the two you mention I like Schenn over Gudas as a deeper d core as 6-7 man to add that pysical presence but not over Chychurn.
8.) 05 Feb 2023 15:46:36
this could make sense if the leafs move reilly to LW.
9.) 05 Feb 2023 21:51:12
Move Reilly to Vancouver :)
04 Feb 2023 15:09:52
Tor: sandin 1st Robertson 3rd
Sjs: Meier bonino
If the leafs truly want to go for it this maybe a trade that would give them what it takes I'm not high on losing sandin but I do think he was rushed into the nhl I was a someone who said liljgren was a bust when sandin made the nhl before him but now look it's the other way around and I think with the current lineup I don't see sandin as a great fit anymore the sharks have no up and coming blue liners and their nhl blue line is not very good sandin would be a good pickup for them. Robertson had high expectations and I think C.V. and his health played a big factor in what he could be right now he will get more of a chance on a rebuilding team. Meier slits into the top line with matthews and marner bonino added experience and depth that we have been missing this year up the middle holmberg is fine but he's just getting his toes wet in the nhl
1.) 04 Feb 2023 15:39:27
They need good defencemen that can make quick work of the puck in their own end to move it up ice and that’s there biggest problem, they screw around with it and get checked then it’s a turn over. Reilly has got to be they’re worst defenceman.
2.) 04 Feb 2023 15:44:24
Forgot to say Meier is 50% retained and then the leafs either resign him or flip him at the draft for a late 1st.
3.) 04 Feb 2023 18:46:21
@tml1122 the knocks I have on Reilly is he’s always trying to play offence first I mean sometimes he’s beating the forwards up ice then my other knock is he can get a point shot through to save his life which I think kills the power play some nights.
4.) 05 Feb 2023 02:32:51
Leafs can ill afford to trade a defenseman for two more forwards.
2023 - 1st round pick, Matthew Knies is likely what it would take for Meier.
But Meier is a UFA, rental and Leafs can not afford to resign him even if they pass on resigning Bunting.
So exactly why?
I don’t see Bonino being an upgrade over Kerfoot so why add him?
19 Jan 2023 13:09:38
Tor: niemela 1st2023 kerfoot
Sly: oreilly 50% retained
Tor: engvall Benn
Edm: foogle
Tor: kallgren 7th (ott)
Ott: brassard
Tor: voit 2nd 2024
Van: schenn
Bunting matthews nylander
Oreilly Tavares marner
Foogle kampf jarnkrok
Brassard holmberg ZAR
Basically the goal here is to become bigger more physical and just overall a better playoff team oreillys and Tavares flip flop at centre.
The leafs move out engvall who statistically better but last game kinda made me want to Move him Gudas went at him all night and just made him look like such a timid player and with him being 6'5 he doesn't know how to use his size foogle a local guy hasn't put up the numbers but he's a good two way guy that fits that shutdown role. Brassard is a vet who can play centre lots of playoff experience and just a good cheap depth move and lastly schenn it's an overpay I know that but for the amount of team interested that's what it's gonna take imo schenn adds that tough guy to the leafs that can be productive still probably would have to move out a dman tho to make room
1.) 19 Jan 2023 13:52:07
Is ROR really the guy we should be going after? And at what cost?
The Niemela trade could well do it. I believe I read the Blues wanted at least a 1st and a good prospect so who really knows?
My issue is he’s an older player on the decline (16 points in 37 games and a -24 I think) . He’s no doubt a rental since the Leafs won’t choose to resign him at $6m+.
Yes he has a great resume and I’m torn and not convinced he’s our guy and I hate losing a 1st yet again.
I think I’d feel better with Barbashev for Niemela and Kerfoot.
I do like Foegele and can’t understand why the Oilers don’t use him more. He’s got size, grit and speed.
Send the Oilers Voit and Benn, they need the cap savings and another Dman. We keep Engval.
2.) 19 Jan 2023 15:54:25
I will say there is risk involved with ROR but I will also say he’s probably the best option in terms of an impactful player if you just look at the goals and assists you would say differently but two me the leafs can play him in the middle or the wing he become a big boost to the pk. The other thing I’m not quite understanding is why does it seem like everyone thinks he’s gonna make 5-6 mil aav when usually players at his age tend to not get paid like that and if he’s been as bad as you say that hurts his value just my opinion.
3.) 19 Jan 2023 23:04:03
I called him an older player but he will only turn 32 on 2/ 7 so he’s not a gray-beard.
His best seasons are behind him for sure!
If the Leafs could extend at a reasonable number I’d feel better but I don’t want to give up a 1st pick.
4.) 20 Jan 2023 03:54:22
Niemala and a 1st round pick for ROR who has 10 goals, 18 points, and is a -28 in 37 games does not seem like a very good idea to me.
Brassard we don’t need in my opinion.
But I like the Schenn deal though Vancouver might want more?
5.) 20 Jan 2023 15:51:52
Have you guys ever considered the fact that the blues are trash this year he gets all the top match ups you look at his defensive numbers and they are still top of the league he’s never been a highly touted offensive player even tho h torched the leafs earlier in the year I’m looking at market value and looking at what teams like Tampa and Boston will pay and the fact is those team that we will play in the playoffs are willing to mortgage the future to win cups leafs should be there too and I’m just speculating here but I think it’s very interesting that holmberg was sent back down when he clearly was working in the bottom six I think the leafs are looking at a centre.
6.) 21 Jan 2023 00:06:53
Engvall is better than Foegele so no thank you.
O’Reilly is 31 years old (32 in three weeks) and on the downside of his career.
Not worth giving up the future for an aging rental that Leafs will not be able to afford to resign next year.
Dubas tried that with Foligno two year ago and it was a disaster.
If Leafs are going to target a potential rental then they should be targeting Timo Meier (who is only 26) and a far better fit for the team than a deteriorating Ryan O’Reilly.
7.) 21 Jan 2023 02:48:04
WB49. I understand what you are saying, but if the Leafs can't afford to resign O'Reilly, than how can they afford Meier and his $10M qualifying offer?
05 Jan 2023 12:11:08
Tor: kerfoot sandin 1st 2023 neimela voit
Van: garland (1 mil retained) horvat (1.5 mil retained)
This is an all in move.. leafs double down on offence I don't think there's a dman available that could be that impactful and they don't need another depth guy how I broke down the trade was kerfoot for garland straight up similar numbers between then garland brings more edge and offence I can swallow his contract and 3.9 for another 3 years and then sandin neimela voit and a 1st for horvat. I'm not a big sandin fan to be honest leafs have timmins who is sandin but bigger and shoots right and he's cheaper neimela is a good d prospect but he lacks size Toronto has enough small blueliners and I added voit who has had a really good year in the ohl leafs should try and sell high on him now.
Bunting Matthews Nylander
Garland horvat Marner
Knies Tavares jarnkrok
Engvall kampf Aston-Reese
Holmberg
1.) 06 Jan 2023 04:33:55
Interesting proposal but I would much prefer Kuzmenko to Garland.
30 Dec 2022 12:58:54
Should we start to be worried about Matthews I mean he's been ok but I haven't seen him really dominate a game this year. I would think that he would get up for games in Arizona but last night he and the rest of our top 6 were not very noticeable imo. also I don't think the 5 forward pp is gonna work if you can't dominate Arizona I like bunting but what does he add to that pp
1.) 30 Dec 2022 14:55:52
He does have his warts for sure.
He is not McDavid or perhaps Tage Thompson.
He’s far too predictable in where he goes on the ice and has mis-handled the puck much more often this year than ever before.
And if he truly wants $15m I say trade him at the deadline or in the summer to the team that gets Connor Bedard! LOL
Arizona with a 5,000 seat arena cannot afford him! Send him to NYR for Lafreniere, Chytil and Miller and let the Rangers figure out their spending.
2.) 30 Dec 2022 16:42:34
Don't believe any report, especially from Kyper on Matthews wanting $15M. McDavid signed his $12.5M years ago and it stood as the only $12M+ deal for a long time. Just this year Mackinnon signed for $12.6M, to now be the top guy, but Kyper says, nah Matthews will want $15M. it's ridiculous. I'd say offer him $13M, that will make him the highest paid and still reasonable for the Leafs to work with.
3.) 30 Dec 2022 21:27:31
I would think on a 8 year deal Matthews would start at 15 now leafs can’t pay that simply because they would end up like the oilers have one or two good players and that’s it I would think Matthews signs another 5-6 year deal closer to 13 as for his play I think at the beginning of the year he was more engaged in the physical play which opened up
more for him and he’s gotten away from that I still think he ends up with 40+ goals but I think he has to step up his game offensively a bit more.
4.) 30 Dec 2022 21:55:17
@Tbuds the big reason for 15m long term is the cap jump. If it hits 100mil in a few years then even Wee Willy be getting 10-11.
5.) 30 Dec 2022 23:53:15
According to the current NHL - CBA a max contract is 20% of the salary cap.
Even if the cap only goes up $1 million dollars this year to $82.5 that permits Matthews to ask for a $16.5 million per year contract.
So it is very easy to visualize him asking for $14.5 - $15.
I would not agree to pay him that and if such demands from Matthews camp transpire I feel he should be traded as it shows his interest in the team comes second to his own interests.
If Leafs were to pay Matthews $15 they could be assured that Marner will be asking for $14.
If they were to pay Marner $14, then Nylander would be well within his rights to ask for $10 - $11 million.
Paying Matthews $15 would set a terrible precedent that could destroy the team.
6.) 31 Dec 2022 02:14:00
@WB can't trade someone with a NMC.
7.) 31 Dec 2022 12:53:30
Are we really picking apart one of the best two way centre's and goal scorers in the league? He seems a little off with his shot, but Matthews is not a guy I worry about.
8.) 31 Dec 2022 17:10:00
@rfl I agree he seems off his finishing abilities haven’t been there this year but he’s primed for a big second half.
9.) 31 Dec 2022 19:26:09
He can't hit the bloody net. He is also losing alot of battles we are use to see him winning. His coming from behind and stick checking the opposition. His hands have disappeared recieving passes that bounce of his stick and his stick handling is weak. NOW all that being said he has become a much better defender BUT that's not what he gets 11M to do for this team.
Not playing with Marner hurts him also.
10.) 31 Dec 2022 21:06:57
Bedard will break the rookie records for goals & points, he will as Gretzky did become the immediate face of hockey. Gretzky had 137 points in his rookie season, Lemieux 100 & Crosby 103. If not for injuries early in Crosbys career, one wonders how far he would have ascended points wise. Any conversation of Bedards size will be short, pardon the pun. The great ones are measured by how big is their heart, that is what translates into goals, points, winning & championships. Lemieux hit 199 points, only Gretzky surpassed 200 points, Bedard may be that player to flirt or surpass 200 points in a season. Though I am a big Matthews & McDavid fan, I believe Bedard will blow peoples minds. The Russian kid Michkov also a very special player, though I have not seen enough footage to really compare him to Bedard.
Bedard, Tarasenko, Toews, Meier, Kane
vs Matthews, Kerfoot, Aston-Reese & Jarncrock ( trade ), Kampf UFA.
Klingburg, Chychurin & Gostibehere vs Reilly & Giordano UFA.
Revised lineup with Tarasenko & Knies, no Aston-Reese, Jarncrock or Kampf.
Bunting Tavares Marner
Tarasenko Bedard Meier
Robertson Nylander Kane
Knies Toews Engvall
* 8 or 9 guys with 20 + goals. 5 or 6 guys with 30 + goals. 4 or 5 guys with 40 + goals. With an offensive backend with point production from Klingberg, Chychurin, Sandin, Liljegren & particularly Gostibehere.
Outside chance a D man gets 20 goals, team could have 10 guys with 20 + goals.
* 3rd goalie could be the zamnboni driver, most nights they are easily outscoring their opponents. With virtually three # 1 lines the opposing coaches, either home or away at a major disadvantage based on talent. The pedigree of a Kane, Tarasenko & of course Captain serious Toews, also integral additions as they know how to win.
11.) 01 Jan 2023 16:59:25
Not buying it, just because the individual salary can go up there does not mean that's what he gets. No team can build a winner like that. And no one else is even close to that number.
Maybe he does a shorter term deal, like a 3 years at $13M and see where the cap is. But an 8 year now at $15 is ridiculous.
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28 Jan 2023 23:57:10
I continue to wonder why hairdryer hasn't been given a shot with the leafs currently lead the marlies in goals with 19 in 33gp I have no issue with mcmann getting a look or Anderson but leafs need more offence in the bottom six right now and if it's cause of waivers then why sign him in the first place they did the same with ho sang last year played great in the pre season and had chemistry with some of the big boys but was never given a shot.. Am I missing something here?
22 Jan 2023 19:22:36
So apparently the leafs don't want to move their first or knies so if this stays true I don't expect the leafs to be in anything substantial and I don't think it's dubas choice with him not having a contract I don't think ownership is gonna let dubas spend what he wants at the deadline
1.) 23 Jan 2023 00:58:48
They shouldn't let Dubas hire a new intern.
2.) 23 Jan 2023 17:02:08
So are you saying dubas gets fired regardless of the outcome this year.
3.) 23 Jan 2023 17:42:42
@Goat 2.0 I think Dubas might walk away this year even he isn't fired.
4.) 24 Jan 2023 22:14:57
Interesting…. He would be highly sought after but at the end of the day the only way he walks is if there’s a better team to work with because mlse can offer the most money.
12 Jan 2023 02:27:57
Did tonight chancellor anyone opinion on the leafs targeting a quality 3C to me it's way harder to replace a center over a winger.also nothing against mcmann but gaudette would of been my choice call up nhl experience and has 15 goals in 25gp
1.) 13 Jan 2023 13:58:03
I'm fine with the Leafs 3 and 4C of Kampf and Holmberg. I would like them to add some size that can play though. Whether that be a 3rd liner or a guy that has been underused on his current team and maybe could play with JT and Marner if given a chance. Disagree with you on Gaudette over McMann. Gaudette has had his NHL opportunities and not done much with them. McMann is bigger and hungry. I have really liked him for a while.
19 Dec 2022 17:36:28
Can anyone explain this Dryden hunt deal initially I assumed it was a contract dubas was gonna bury but he makes the same amount in the ahl so the only logic I can see is he's doing malgin a solid and giving him and chance else where which makes the marchment trade look even worse
1.) 19 Dec 2022 21:58:43
Hunt brings an element the Leafs have little of. Malgin wasn't really doing much. I don't mind the trade at all.
2.) 19 Dec 2022 22:15:02
2 guys that are almost worthless, one that wasn't working out at all for another. Nothing really too big.
3.) 20 Dec 2022 11:38:15
For sure agree but if they wanted physicality could the just bring up simmonds or Clifford I guess for me I would of rather the leafs move the cap hit for future consideration and give someone like steeves a shot with the big club.
4.) 21 Dec 2022 16:34:33
Could have been that they were no takers for Malgin on just a pick as it eats up the contract spot and adds to payroll. This was contract in, contract out and about even on salary.
05 Dec 2022 14:30:06
Kind of a debate post here
So my question is if by the trade deadline Murray is still playing good in net should the leafs consider moving samsonov and getting another backup like reimer..? Here's why I'm curious about this if samsonov continues to be good chances are leafs won't be able to retain him which is the most likely income regardless and with a lot of team having sub par goaltending what could samsonov bring back in a trade it's for sure risky because goalies get hurt a lot and Murray hasn't been the healthiest guy in the league but it's an interesting thought to me.
1.) 05 Dec 2022 16:34:02
Samsonov expires as an RFA, not really any risk. If he's in demand at the TDL, he probably will be come seasons end and still hold value.
Murray being as injury prone as he is, I like having Samsonov.
2.) 05 Dec 2022 19:26:02
@LL good point I did forget that he’s an rfa so for once the leafs hold the cards what do you think his value is? I’m thinking a 2nd and a prospect.
3.) 05 Dec 2022 19:57:05
Good question Goat and a smart answer by LL.
4.) 05 Dec 2022 23:17:05
It depends on if you want the Leafs to go for it or not imo. If yes, keep Samsonov because 2 goalies are often needed in the playoffs. If no, maybe move Samsonov for assets because unlikely to be able to move Murray.
5.) 06 Dec 2022 00:19:54
@Goat you might able to ask for a 1st if you call EDM otherwise, probably a second.
05 Feb 2023 22:36:12
Very unlikely the canucks retain half of that contract from 5 years.
05 Feb 2023 10:56:02
The other thing that would add to this is I was listening to the Chris Johnson podcast and he was saying he talked to someone close to the leafs and they said it’s more likely the leafs add a dman than anything else.
04 Feb 2023 18:46:21
@tml1122 the knocks I have on Reilly is he’s always trying to play offence first I mean sometimes he’s beating the forwards up ice then my other knock is he can get a point shot through to save his life which I think kills the power play some nights.
04 Feb 2023 15:44:24
Forgot to say Meier is 50% retained and then the leafs either resign him or flip him at the draft for a late 1st.
03 Feb 2023 11:31:19
Why so much for timo? I don’t think San jose would be interested in nylander they want young assets I also am not sure dubas is willing to get in a bidding was for timo either.
02 Feb 2023 16:57:23
The only reason why Simmonds is playing because they have no voice in the locker room Keefe explained that but I do think he’s only good in games like Boston keeps them from taking liberties on our guys.
28 Jan 2023 23:52:35
I’ve been saying the leafs have been weak at the centre position matthews goes down and there’s a big gap holmberg has been fine but him and kampf can produce offence.
28 Jan 2023 23:50:15
The number of games the leafs have played lately surely is a factor but what I’ve seen from the leafs is there transition defence is way too soft other teams have been given the neutral zone way to easy turnovers have killed us and it seems like our defence isn’t capable of making an outlet pass so hopefully they make it to the all star break and they can come back refreshed and motivated I think the matthews injury is somewhat planned I don’t think management wanted him to go to the all star game he will get the rest he needs.
25 Jan 2023 11:36:38
@1rexit the difference between schenn and gavrikov is that gavrikovs defensive numbers are better he’s younger as well and the biggest one is that schenn has a great contract which will drive his price up especially since so many teams a cap strapped.
24 Jan 2023 22:14:57
Interesting…. He would be highly sought after but at the end of the day the only way he walks is if there’s a better team to work with because mlse can offer the most money.