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03 Feb 2025 02:07:15
Tor: domi Robertson
Dal: marchment
Dallas really wants Nicky bobby and they are familiar with domi seems pretty fair trade wish domi would work here but he isn't playing in a role where he can succeed
1.) 03 Feb 2025 13:43:35
Total agree him and Rielly don’t fit this system neither does Robertson.
2.) 03 Feb 2025 15:11:43
Isn’t Domi’s supposed talent being a forechecker and tough to play against? That is literally Berube’s system. If you wanna say Robertson and Reilly don’t fit I’ll agree with that. Domi has no excuse. He takes stupid penalties and doesn’t play well defensively ever. You wanna rest on what he did in the playoffs last year, but forget that Reilly may have been their best player in the playoffs. It may be time to move on from Reilly, and probably from Robertson. It’s definitely time to move on from Domi…. If you can find someone else dumb enough to pay him $3.75 million.
3.) 04 Feb 2025 00:22:27
Jim Nill is an experienced, highly regarded GM.
He doesn’t make mistakes like this.
Dubas on the other hand, who traded Mason Marchment to the Panthers for 5’9”, 165lbs Denis Malgin (currently playing in Switzerland) does make mistakes like this.
Regularly!
28 Jan 2025 09:57:10
Tor: Robertson Cowan 2nd
Ana: mctavish
Tor: Reilly
Nyr: K'andre miller
I think if the leafs look at there team they need to start looking at adding youth I look at the Avs who last year grabbed mitlstad and this year trade the older guy for necas and dury I think mctavish is a great fit for chief and miller is a 6'5 puck moving great skating dman lots of upside still
1.) 28 Jan 2025 23:03:51
The first one maybe. Although even at a young age, McTavish is already part of their leadership group and I think they value him quite a bit. I don't think the Rangers take that deal.
2.) 29 Jan 2025 02:37:16
@rlf yea it wouldn’t be easy to get mctavish but Anaheim is one of those markets that have idiots running it so you never know and for miller I think the rangers are pretty motivated in moving him I don’t get it but maybe Reilly could be a fit.
3.) 29 Jan 2025 03:16:45
Both very interesting though. Even though ANH and Rangers may say no, I think the value is there. Just hoping some other team watches our playoffs from two years ago and takes a shot at Reilly for us. I’d definitely take K’Andre for him.
4.) 29 Jan 2025 12:38:27
Goat. Yea, Miller and Rielly are both having down years. I think with Miller also being an RFA coming off a down year, he isn't getting paid big and that adds to his value. imo.
24 Jan 2025 14:24:56
Tor: Reilly
Van: heinen soucy
Cap works leafs get another 6'5 dman with good d metrics heinen boost the 4th line oh and they get guys with term so not just rentals I think if they move Reilly he will only wave to go home
10 Jan 2025 10:49:44
I don't really get how savard can't figure out the power play. enough with the one unit crap they have way too many guys that can snap it home to being doing this. Two units 50/50 in pp time
Unit one
Knies (net front) Matthews (trigger man)
Marner (quarterback) mcmann (bumper)
Reilly ( point)
Unit two
Tavares(net front) nylander (trigger) domi(setup) pacioretty (bumper)
OEL (point)
Your telling me both these units can score what's harder facing a tired loaded line or waves of offence
1.) 10 Jan 2025 18:42:36
I agree 100% Goat. I honestly don’t get why they haven’t even tried this for more than a game.
07 Jan 2025 04:01:51
Tor: jarnkrok ltir Robertson 3rd
Nyi: pageau
Tor: 2nd Timmons niemela
Sjs: walman
So the leafs would have to get rid of another 1.69 to make it work but I like pageau 60% at the dot two way guy has another year left Robertson helps the islanders get younger and hopefully provide more goals second trade I made was for walman seems like a lot to pay but guy has 25 points 6 pp goals which is why I would want him more offence for the blueline
1.) 07 Jan 2025 13:07:36
Goat2.0 your trade is probably a bit more realistic (I was looking at Pageau more of a negative from the Islanders perspective, they will need cap space for next year) .
I just think we will need the cap space with Pageau (50% retention) because next year will be tight if we re-sign Marner, Tavares & depending on bridge or not for Knies. Maybe give another pick or prospect to Buffalo to take 50% retention.
2.) 07 Jan 2025 19:02:40
Leafs need Jarnkrok's LTIR, especially if they are adding cap hits in trades.
I'm not a big Timmins fan, I think he is a 6/ 7 D-man, but is Walman worth him, Niemela and a 2nd? He's playing big minutes in SJ and having a career year, but I would hope Timmins and a 2nd would get it done.
3.) 07 Jan 2025 21:53:13
Rfl if they are sending money out idk if they need jarnkrok cap hit but like I said there would still need to move more money to make these moves as for walman I guess you’re right but he’s been so good for them idk if they just give him up for so little plus I don’t think niemela has a shot at playing for berube.
4.) 07 Jan 2025 22:26:14
Goat. Please don't get me mixed up with the guy using RFL now. lol
You may be right on all counts. LTIR is confusing. Take Jarnkrok's $2.1M out of LTIR pool and I am not sure they have enough LTIR to fit everyone they have now on the team, nevermind adding any new cap. That's how I understand it anyway.
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30 Jan 2025 12:28:38
At this point I think the leafs need to be bold. it isn't good enough to bring in a couple depth players for the first time in a long time the Atlantic isn't an absolute gauntlet marner and Matthews can not be on the same line it doesn't give the leafs a chance to win at this point I'm ok with marner being traded
25 Jan 2025 11:16:49
Thoughts on rantanen trade?
Me personally don't think the Avs got enough necas is a good player.. He doesn't replace the offence rantanen puts up dury is ok young guy I think they did good getting a younger player. if I had one gripe it's how did they not get one of Jarvis or svech or a 1st.
How this ties to the leafs is marner I would say this is the market for marner now would you take this package for marner?
1.) 25 Jan 2025 14:42:20
If that's all Rantanen gets as a better player on a way better contract, I don't know what we can't expect foe Mitchy.
2.) 25 Jan 2025 16:02:13
LL I guess there's not much more to expect on a Marner deal, unless an extention is part of the trade.
Goat 2.0 obviously the AVS determined they weren't going to extend Rantanen at $14Mish, so they probably got the best deal they could for a pending UFA (instead of letting him walk for nothing) . Plus I think the fact that Colorado already won a cup makes to move easier to do.
As for the Leafs and Marner, I don't think anyone would be happy with this return, especially since the Leafs haven't won a cup. If Leafs had won, then I'd personally punt Marner out the door.
3.) 25 Jan 2025 20:16:30
I got to believe there was a better trade to be had another team would of ponied up the right pieces I mean rantanen was said to be caught off guard and never thought he was getting traded watch this dude pop off now lol.
4.) 25 Jan 2025 20:26:32
It’s cause Raantanen is on the last year of his deal and could potentially be a rental if they don’t come to an agreement. Tough for playoff contending teams to shovel out 14M for this guy. If Carolina loses out early and Raantanen doesn’t resign there, they would be losing Necas and Drury for nothing so that IMO is why Jarvis or Svech isn’t in the deal.
15 Jan 2025 08:35:45
At this point Toronto should strongly consider blowing this up it's been awful from top to bottom. the players still make the calls on who they play with the coaching staff can't figure out how to run a power play.. And the star players have had such little impacts on the games.
Last night was the worst I've seen the blueline goals 2,3,4 there wasn't a defender within 5 feet of the goal scorer I'm over the whole Reilly thing yes he's been here through everything but he looks like a guy who's gonna drop off hard as he already has started. Trade diva marner and get what you can he isn't gonna get you to a cup and at this point if Tavares number is at or above 5 mill I'm not interested. Leafs brass needs to take this team back!
1.) 15 Jan 2025 12:04:52
They are 1st in the Atlantic and you want to blow it up?
2.) 15 Jan 2025 13:47:01
I think a deep breath is needed. They need to get back to playing Berube hockey. He will keep on them and if Willy keeps slacking, I do believe Berube will send him a message sooner than later. Stolarz and McCabe back will make a huge difference.
3.) 15 Jan 2025 15:50:54
@leafslife @RLF what I mean by blow it up is rebuild the core as in restructuring it I don’t believe in this team if a few injuries can derail them this much… and I also find it hard to believe that the players aren’t the one pulling the strings any other coach would have seen the amount of success marner had without Matthews and been like I’m not putting them two back together also any coach could look at the power play and see that it’s not gonna work it started being bad last playoffs which cost them the series… and will cost them again this year if they don’t fix it. all I’m saying is even when they were winning they weren’t dominating team and being 1st in the Atlantic isn’t as big of a flex as it was in years past the leafs are a good week and a half of bad play and they could be out of a playoff spot…. And bringing in one centre does not help fix the issues as a team.
4.) 15 Jan 2025 20:00:54
@Goat most teams can't handle 2 injuries to key guys. If Makar or Helly went down for 6 months both their teams would feel it.
5.) 16 Jan 2025 12:16:34
Goat. Fair enough on the core, but how has it been awful from top to bottom? I mean, no one was saying blow it up during the 5 game winning streak. But a 3 game losing streak and it needs blowing up.
I get the frustration. All I would say is that this team made a ton of changes in the off-season. New coaches, New goalie, 4 new defenceman (although Hakanpaa has hardly played) and 2 new forwards.
The PP is a big concern, I agree. Should they spread out the talent more between 2 units, I think they should. Should they have already benched Willy and sent a message, I think they should have. Do they need a true 3C, I think they do. Would I trade Marner if possible and use the cap space to grab two or 3 less high profile players, I would. Easier said then done when he has a full no move.
This isn't the end result likely of this years team, it's just mid-season.
6.) 17 Jan 2025 11:25:11
RFL I think part of the problem too is that willy is the only one of the core to ever get punished because the other guys are too fragile? When I’m saying it’s bad from top to bottom I look at the games while they are winning and a lot of nights they win because their goalie stood on his head. One of McCabe or tanev go down and the blueline is toast…. I think if the leafs can play like they did against jersey in the third period more consistently they may be able to do something but we just haven’t seen it consistently. Maybe I’m being too hard on them but I see the flaws of this team and Like most leafs fans I’m pretty damaged from all the losing they have done. lol.
7.) 17 Jan 2025 12:49:00
Goat. I think the franchise is still suffering from the Dubas years to an extent. I don't think it's possible to undue what Dubas did in 1 year. I like the makeup of this team more than any we have had in years. Really good (yet fragile goaltending it seems) . The D-core is the best we've had in ages imo. Upfront, the talent is there, they still need to break embedded bad habits that pop up.
As for Willy. The reason I said bench Willy is because the effort wasn't there. He is the worst for that. Effort is the one thing he can control. Last night, he was a beast. He was physical, he battled hard. He didn't take a shift off. And Voila, he also scores twice. Even if he didn't score, I would have said Willy had a good game. No one on the team slacks like Willy does and that is why he is the one that gets punished imo. Typically, effort is not the issue with Matthews or Marner.
12 Jan 2025 09:50:37
You know I'm starting to see why o Reilly said this team will never win a cup with some of the players. Why is it every time this year when Matthews is out and marner finds chemistry with someone else that they automatically get throw back together. or why is it through 40+ games of seeing that this power play isn't good haven't they changed it, and I mean move some of the main guys off it.. Its cause the top players still run this team and get what they want not what's best for the team.
Then we got guys like domi and mar we who refuse to shoot the puck at the net so idk how useful they are offensively it's so frustrating. But I watched that game last night mainly the 2nd period and Toronto controlled the play but everything is to the out side cycle cycle cycle that lead to nothing never really challenged the goalie.
Something needs to change soon because the Atlantic is tight enough where you can have a bad week and a half and you maybe out of a playoff spot.
1.) 12 Jan 2025 12:53:57
Goat, O’Reilly was right in his view.
To win in the playoffs requires sacrificing your body to make a play and ALWAYS giving your best effort.
The worst offenders are Nylander and Rielly; both often give half-efforts and are slow to react. Neither plays the body.
They need to go despite their skills and their abilities to make a difference.
Yes they can win a game late or in OT but perhaps through better efforts earlier in that game the need for late heroics would not have been necessary.
It annoys me to no end when these two stop skating, giving the puck carrier time and space to create an offensive opportunity.
And the loss of Stolarz is certainly a big piece of our losses, not the only piece but a big contributor along with a ineffective PP.
03 Jan 2025 09:18:47
Another rough outing for Cowan didn't watch much of the game tbh but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.. There are a lot of quality nhlers who played in this tournament that didn't have the best game I think of you're the leafs you need to make him a better player off the puck. All in all I think that team Canada was doomed from day one they left too many quality players at home for guys who are very mid level. Same as last year.
1.) 03 Jan 2025 12:37:46
He's coming off a concussion, I wouldn't read too much into this tournament.
2.) 03 Jan 2025 16:45:15
Bad coaching, bad management, bad roster decisions, it's pretty much what I expected from this tournament.
As Tags said, I don't take much from it.
3.) 03 Jan 2025 17:29:03
Totally agree. It's like they had Dubas assemble the team with his idea of having small, quick guys and then they hires Tortorella to coach it in his style. It was a horrible management failure.
Any big boys sat. Rehkopf is in the press box or stapled to the bench and was a returning player. So many they left off the team that I can't fathom why.
4.) 03 Jan 2025 19:20:02
For instance. They cut 6'4" Matthew Wood, who is over a point per game against men in the NCAA (Played on the team last year) . They cut Beckett Sennecke, another 6'3" guy who is just under 2 pts per game in the OHL and 3rd overall pick in this past draft. They don't even invite Misa to camp, who has 30 goals in 33 games as a 17 year old in the OHL. They didn't invite Lardis either who is the top scorer in the OHL.
Just some examples.
5.) 04 Jan 2025 13:27:11
Been posting Cowan trades for a while now…
Sell high on him
He’s a 15 goal scorer at the nhl level.
29 Jan 2025 02:37:16
@rlf yea it wouldn’t be easy to get mctavish but Anaheim is one of those markets that have idiots running it so you never know and for miller I think the rangers are pretty motivated in moving him I don’t get it but maybe Reilly could be a fit.
28 Jan 2025 19:12:34
It’s not that he can’t play 3C I just don’t see him as a great 3rd line player but that just my opinion and I could be dead wrong.
28 Jan 2025 16:02:10
I like sissons for a 4th line add.
28 Jan 2025 09:42:40
I like the trade but Cowan and Robertson is closer to the ask one I would make mctavish is an rfa but I don’t think he breaks the bank probably comes in around 6-7mil but I look at this kinda like the Avs who have been proactive in looking at getting younger while being competitive.
21 Jan 2025 20:04:37
I think this trade has two factors in it obviously cap but I don’t get the sense that the owner of Utah has any desire to sell off unless they are getting nhl ready player with equal value.
30 Jan 2025 14:33:36
Saad is in the same boat as domi doesn’t produce much and isn’t a two way player it’s a very lateral move.
30 Jan 2025 14:32:51
I don’t get it could this be what oreilly was referring to when he said some player in Toronto will never win because Matthews and marner have to play together because it’s what they want so it has to be like for real they should of pulled the trigger this summer.
25 Jan 2025 20:16:30
I got to believe there was a better trade to be had another team would of ponied up the right pieces I mean rantanen was said to be caught off guard and never thought he was getting traded watch this dude pop off now lol.
24 Jan 2025 21:03:52
You made the same post last week we get it you don’t like the depth players cool.
18 Jan 2025 12:39:29
Domi plays with heart and really hasn’t been given much of a chance to play up in the lineup.
Benoit is everything that this team lacks in physicality yes ge takes a lot of penalties but come playoff time he will be valuable
And myers is cheap depth keep him the rest I can agree with you but you’re not getting much back in a trade.