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16 Nov 2020 13:46:33
Leafs trade Marner
LA trades Brown, Turcotte, 1st (2021)*
*Top 3 protected, becomes 1st (2022)

LA can easily afford this. They have the cap space, and they have the prospects at centre to spare.

Leafs gain valuable cap space they can use towards obtaining a 1RHD somehow. They also gain another veteran with all his leadership and cup winning pedigree. And they gain the 1st. Hoping L. A. tanks again and Leafs cash in.

I figure protect the pick top 3 this year. This way it is unprotected for when Wright is eligible. So if L. A. tanks again this year, we get their 1st unprotected for next year. It’s a huge gamble, but the payoff could be massive.

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16 Nov 2020 14:49:43
I don’t see this being a step forward for the leafs I know marners deal sucks but I don’t think the leafs move him he doesn’t have full value with his deal.

16 Nov 2020 20:11:37
I knew somebody was going to say that.

Ok. What should L. A. add in order to make it fair? Kempe maybe? He’s a good depth piece with speed to burn and can play both wing and centre, though LA has been using him on wing.

16 Nov 2020 20:42:23
We save almost $6M in cap space. That is a huge factor to consider L94. And if you think it’s undercalued, simply add a pick/ prospect/ player you think is worth it to make up the deal.

The whole point of this trade was to free up significant amount of cap space and bring in a couple A-prospects or picks to have for the future. I know Brown is a real let down from Marner, but the difference in value should be able to be overcome by adding on another prospect or player like Walker or Clague or Kempe.

17 Nov 2020 00:04:49
I’d only take out stipulation and then it’s up to LA with the marner added to team to improve. If doughty kopitar marner byfield can’t get past bottom 10 in league then they don’t deserve this pick.

Basically becomes a show me what u old guys can do with the injection of byfield marner youth. If they still suck too bad not leafs problem. Stips are dumb anyways

I’d also change brown for carter simply do to the Sau st Marie thing but not a deal breaker at all

So no real huge changes I actually like this deal with that stip thing taken out.

17 Nov 2020 00:06:55
Just read the Wright thing but odds are la only gets better with this deal as younger leaf guys step in so yeah huge gamble on that but whatevs still a solid trade.

17 Nov 2020 17:14:55
I think to move Marner and get picks/ prospects back, you need to take back a decent sized, but possibly aging contract. This fits that.
Instead of Turcotte, I would like to try Fagemo, 2021 1st (Top 3), 2021 2nd. See if we can get the extra pick this way without losng too much potential of the prospect. Too bad Kaliyev is all about offence, that guy could be a great if he finds the right attitude.

18 Nov 2020 16:16:36
LA is in full rebuild, and they have a nice restocking of the cupboard under way.

Besides the fact they have the space, I don't see this trade making sense from their end.

18 Nov 2020 16:24:35
Marner is 23 and helps with full rebuild as there vets r aging nice to have a 25-27 year old stud to help newer younger players when they reach nhl level. Marner is perfect middle age to help connect the age gap kings will have between star players.

18 Nov 2020 19:55:25
I wouldn't call the kings a full rebuild. They have some young studs and some older vets who can still play at a high level. I see it more as a retool which could be sped up with a MM type player.

19 Nov 2020 17:45:51
LL: I was listening to Sirius XM NHL Channel's "GM Report Cards" and they were pretty bullish on the young prospect depth the Kings have assembled.

CRAIG: Marner's contract isn't viewed as a good-value deal, and while I take your point regarding his age, I don't see the kings making this deal.

16 Nov 2020 12:55:12
Leafs trade Sandin, Dermott, Kerfoot
Minnesota trades Brodin, 1st

Crazy trade that doesn’t make a lot of sense for the Leafs. Not all my props are about the actual trade though. A lot of the time I just use it as an excuse to talk about a different subject. In this case, I am focused on that 1st round pick of Minnesota.

Given the average age of players in Minnesota, and in particular I’m thinking about a couple of their defensemen, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them crashing to the bottom of the league next year. That 1st round pick would be very valuable if that happens.

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16 Nov 2020 20:12:22
Somebody downvoted my unbelievable Leafs trade.

I’m heartbroken.

17 Nov 2020 00:09:37
Why not?
4 LHD in top 4 I like it lol

Not like Sandin will get true shot any time soon anyways

I’ll give you a believable vote even though I dought minny deals him any time soon.

15 Nov 2020 20:37:56
Leafs trade
Holl
Engvall

Any team
2021 2nd

Sign chara 1 year 3 mill if that's what he's looking for. But honestly can prob get him for a lot cheaper.

Lineup next year

Hyman Matthews Marner
Mikheyev Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Thornton Veesy
Simmonds Spezza Barbanov

Riley Brodie
Muzzin Chara
Dermott Bogosian
Lehtonen Lilygreen
Sandin Howell
Marincin Rosen

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15 Nov 2020 22:22:02
Not sure how much Chara adds to this teams construction. A lot of him playing so well in Boston is the defensive systems are worked around him a lot while he's on the ice.

Also not a big fan of paying a guy that age that much. Never know when father time brings the hammer.

15 Nov 2020 23:55:04
I like Chara too. But even I don’t like him THAT much!

Ten years ago, Chara on the team would have been a wet dream. Now he’s nothing to get excited about.

Like Thornton, Chara has become more of a figurehead than anything. Leafs already have Thornton and Spezza for that exact reason.

I was actually a little surprised when Leafs signed Thornton. I don’t know why. I didn’t want him on the team, so obviously Dubas signed him. I should have seen it coming.

16 Nov 2020 07:12:10
I once heard Tanner comes on this site, reads your suggestions and relays them to Dubas. Then he can never do anything you approve of. Lol.

Jokes aside, I had no issue with the Jumbo signing but the big difference is that salary. If Chara wants to come for league minimum then I don't see why not.

16 Nov 2020 09:46:37
If chara signs for 3 million then leafs add .875 to their cap and being 1 million over cap now this deal stranglehold’s them even more

Remember engvall is only a .125 cap hit right now since he is buried so dealing him doesn’t save the leafs 1.25 right now, other teams trading tor him get hit with his full cap but not leafs since they buried him.

Chats needs to sign for 2.125 or less to make this deal be worth anything

Other than that not a bad deal or thought. Heck just do the deal and not worry about chara then leafs can play the kids more.

16 Nov 2020 17:02:01
At this point I don’t see the point in bringing a guy like Chara in other than his leadership and how big he is but he’s slow and he’s old we have slow and old already.

14 Nov 2020 01:40:15
Trade proposal
Toronto trades Nylander and Holl
To
Nashville for
Luke Kunin, Egor Afarasyev, 1st in 2021

Toronto trades
Kerfoot
To
Dallas for
Stephen Johns Rd

Lines
Robertson Matthews Kunin
Hyman Tavares Marner
Mikheyev Thornton Barbanov
Vessy Spezza Simmons

**J. Anderson, Travis Boyd

Reilly Brodie
Muzzin Johns
Lethonen Bogosian

**Sandin Dermont

Cap Hell fixed with Good Balance!
Speed, Size and Scoring from all four lines!

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14 Nov 2020 15:17:44
I don’t think either of these moves helps us. The team looks weaker. But I do love the size of all these guys.

I know you check this site often, so I know that you know that I absolutely am of the bigger is better mind set. Lol. How could I not love the idea of swapping out Nylander for someone like Kunin and Afanaseyev? Even Kunin is a big dude. 6’00 and 200 lbs of solid muscle is a guy that has entered into beefcake territory.

I actually don’t think the Leafs have a “small” team. Most of the guys are over 6’00 and 200 lbs. Which does say something about the size that it takes to be an NHL player. When the vast majority of the players in the league are the size of an amateur bodybuilder, you have entered a whole new world of compete.

This is another area where I disagree with Dubas and his philosophy obviously. This whole strategy of drafting smaller skilled guys because he thinks they are undervalued is faulty in its premise. Instead of picking up two nickels, he keeps looking for a dime. He is trying to hit big every year at the draft and backfill the bottom six with players the other teams don’t want. He’s dumpster diving in order to keep the team fed while skipping the buffet looking for the lobster.

It reminds me of a fisherman looking for the big catch. He figures one big fish is equal to two little fish. So he throws back the little fish and keeps looking for the big one. Every now and then he catches a good sized fish. But mainly gets nothing. The result is that he is slowly starving himself to death while staring at food the whole time.

I think I used enough analogies here to give the idea.

14 Nov 2020 20:24:26
So, everyone likes to point out "size" as an issue.

I actually find this argument quite odd. The team doesn't have as many "small" players as one may assume listening to the media and fans perceptions. Tie Domi wasn't exactly a behemoth was he? Same for Darcy Tucker. Wendel Clark. What difference does size actually make?

I get very tired of this point. Mathews is a big man. Goat is a big man. Tavares isn't a "small" guy. I could go on and on. Just because you add "size" doesn't mean a whole helluva lot. It's up their with the "grit" argument. If you were to believe the hockey purists then Clifford would have made this team contenders. He would have made far more if an impact than Willy does. This just isn't the accurate, objective truth.

Nick Robertson is not a big guy. He came into that series and Everytime he hopped over the boards he was like a hat out of hell. That's why we all like him so much. Has nothing to do with "size" and "grit". I am actually Beginning to believe people are confusing "size" with effort which just isn't accurate. We all really just want the team to be "harder to play against". That doesn't mean bring Colton Orr and Tiger Williams out of retirement it means light a fire under the ass of every single player every single time they hit the ice.

These trade make the team bigger but worse overall. It just isn't worth it.

If you want size and toughness trade for Lucic. He's a grinder and I'm sure they will give him away. He how that works out for you. Go sign Phaneuf. He's a big guy that hits. Why not make him our top defenceman again? We suffered through Burke as GM attempting to build the 76' Flyers and it was an absolute failure in many, many ways.

I want everyone to think about the top players of the last 10 years. Ovechkin is an ass kicker. He's tough as nails but also scores 50 goals. Crosby works hard and motivates his team even if he isn't the "toughest, grittiest" guy around.

Stop thinking toughness as in Kyle Clifford and start thinking more Can Neely. Guys that work hard, score, hit, fight, players who understand every aspect of the game not just how to stand around at 6'6 250 like a pylon and fight someone once in awhile.

Whole thing wasn't completely directed at you just got me thinking about size.

14 Nov 2020 22:28:03
Whew. Good read LL. That was awesome.

I guess when we talk about “size”, only one muscle really matters - the heart.

I think everyone secretly roots for the underdog. The Rudy’s and the Fluties. The guys that just overcome all obstacles and will themselves on to success. I know I do. When you see a player like Gerbe and Ennis, they have to be respected. There’s always room on a team for one or two of those guys.

Do I think a championship team can be assembled entirely of players like that? Of course not.

In order to be a true champion at any sport, a trifecta is needed: skill, will, and your natural god given physical abilities. You need all three attributes to succeed. Many of the Leafs seem to have two out of three of these attributes. They have the skill and the size, but seem to lack the will to push on to the next level.

And unfortunately for a lot of the guys that boast the first two and lack in the latter, the elite athletes that dominate the sports of today have all three in abundance. Genetics are just as important, if not more so, than the other two.

The game is rigged, as are all games of athletics, to take advantage of the physical attributes that make up an ideal athlete. Size does matter. So long as the player knows how to to leverage his size to his advantage, he will be more successful than an equally skilled and willed player. I

Is it fair? No. But no one ever said life was fair, let lone professional sports.

15 Nov 2020 04:15:12
I can agree with most of that HL but I will add that not all physical prowess comes in the form of size. In fact most players now are not huge. They are bigger than your average man on general society but not NFL big. Not many 6'8 350lbs lineman skating around.

The one thing I think that no one can disagree with is the three aspects of winning. Hedman is probably the best example of that to me. He just wasn't willing to quit in these playoffs. I see that same attitude developing in Mathews and Reilly but have yet to see it in either Marner or Willy.

15 Nov 2020 13:17:59
Kunin is 1 pound more than nylander and his offensive upside is 3 tiers below nylander

Beefcake?

First deal sucks and big time

Johns now that’s a beefcake but an often injured one at that but I still have wanted him fir a long time now. Don’t think leafs need him that much now with bognosian basically able to do same as johns would. The extra million in cap space would help but not at expense of kerfoot

If Dallas adds a pick or prospect than I’d be more intirigued.

15 Nov 2020 13:21:35
Awesome points leafslife agree

It’s the size of the heart and not size of the skate that makes a player tough.

15 Nov 2020 19:47:13
Exactly what I was thinking craiggers. Need more heart from the entire team not just Bogosian sized guys.

15 Nov 2020 20:01:41
Grit and toughness come from "heart", drive and desire. Grit and toughness are typically essential to success as they are hand in hand with the other attributes 90% of the time.
I would also argue that in the Clb series, Clifford was more effective than Nylander. That 4th line was our second best line all series. Clifford played with drive and Nylander did not. All his skill couldn't overcome his lack of drive.
I wish we had of played the Clifford line more.

15 Nov 2020 21:37:58
I didn’t say the trade was good. Lol. In fact, the first thing I said was that neither trade helps the Leafs.

And yes, I consider anyone around 6’00” and 200 lbs as a beefcake.

6’01” and 185 lbs is the size that is required to be a top model. The guys that get paid to stand around in underwear while a pretty blonde girl with fake boobs suck on their earlobe and some guy with a camera takes pictures.

Anyone 5’08” - 6’02” with a body weight between 180 lbs - 220 lbs is in beefcake territory.

Anyone bigger than that is getting into the “I’m going to break your legs for money size”.

Anyone below that probably suffers from some form of “little guy” status. Either they are insecure about their height. Or they are insecure about their weight. Depending on what they do about it, they are either of no consequence, or they turn into a pit bull. If they are the latter of the two, you want them on your side.

Tortorella wouldn’t have Gerbe on the team if he didn’t trust him to do the job. He’s tenacious and won’t ever give up. If he ended up a Leaf I would probably have little to say.

Unless it was Dubas that acquired him.

Then I would be outraged.

16 Nov 2020 00:18:09
I was just letting everyone know that nylander and kunin
Are in fact same height and 1 pound difference between the 2.

I totally got that hockeyluvr didn’t think this trade helps the leafs

Conclusion trade kerfoot with prospect for kunin as prospect makes up cap and age difference.

13 Nov 2020 14:22:44
Variation of something I posted a while ago around Nylander for Gaudreau.

Cal
Nylander 6.96
Kerfoot 3.5

Tor
Gaudreau 6.75
Bennett 2.55
Pospisil ELC
2021 2nd

Calgary gets the best player in the deal in Nylander for the RW where they are weaker and a 3C with speed and offence ability. They also get more cost certainty as both Nylander and Kerfoot are signed longer than Gaudreau and Bennett.

Leafs get a high skilled, but sometimes careless with the puck Gaudreau for the LW where they don not have a high end LW. Bennett is younger than Kerfoot and over time, could be an upgrade while playing a more physical game. Pospisil is a bit out of control at times, but has some skill and a good project F that would stick up for teammates. The 2nd is to equal value and the cost certainty that Cal gets in the deal. Leafs save about 1.2 on the cap.

Gaudreau Matthews Hyman
Mikheyev Tavares Marner
Bennett Thornton Vesey
Spezza Simmonds (whoever that day)

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13 Nov 2020 23:00:50
Gaudreau
Not getting all the hype
Does not float my boat

Just yakushev being yakushev.

14 Nov 2020 20:24:50
Nylander is looking like a better player than Johnny Hockey.

15 Nov 2020 01:10:21
Did I not say that Calgary get the best player in the deal, Nylander?

15 Nov 2020 13:24:25
Calgary probably won’t spend the extra million a draft pick or prospect on a very slight difference. Yes nylander is better but not by as much as u want to believe. Long term yes definetly but right now not so much.

16 Nov 2020 00:37:58
If there ever comes a time when I say Leafs should stick with the bigger, more physical player, and that player is Nylander, then there is something wrong with the deal.

;-)

12 Nov 2020 21:20:34
Leafs trade Andersen, Hyman
Columbus trades Korpisalo, Savard


Andersen is a choker. I offer nothing in the way of proof but all his previous playoff choking performances.

I read a new term somewhere once, may have even been on this site, that seemed just right: The “Freddie” - those completely inexcusable goals that somehow go in at exactly the wrong time.

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12 Nov 2020 21:59:57
I think Hyman will be resigned I think he plays to big of a role on the leafs for them to move him.

12 Nov 2020 22:13:01
Is the "Freddy" a lot like the "Gardiner"? Lol.

I don't see Korpisalo as the answer. I would like to him play somewhere that doesn't have such an incredible defensive system before making a judgement.

Reminds me of the old Devil's teams. Brodeur is a Hall of Famer and well deserved but he also played in an era of low scoring with a completely un yielding system and great defensive players in front of him.

I'm going to say it now, if Freddy played in Colorado or Carolina I think he could actually win multiple series as he isn't relied on as much.

13 Nov 2020 11:26:37
I hope they keep Hyman too. It really depends on how Campbell does this year more than anything I guess. A lot is riding on Campbell’s performance this year. His play determines whether Leafs re-sign Andersen more than anything. I like to think it’s a foregone conclusion that Andersen won’t be back after next year. But that’s hard to say right now. Too many factors to consider until the season has played out.

Andersen might do a little better on a more defensive oriented team. But he would still be a choker. Doesn’t matter how good the team is in front of him. Those awkward weak soft goals from the perimeter he let's in at crucial moments of the game will forever stand out in my mind. Like when I saw Toskala let in that shot from behind the other teams net - a 200’ shot he let in - the game 5 second goal Andersen let in will forever be the defining moment of his play for me. That was probably the worst goal I’ve seen him flub yet. Unless he somehow turns into Hasek his year and redeems himself with an outstanding playoffs where he makes crucial game winning high light reel saves, I will forever remember him as the choker, and that game 5 second goal will forever be my stereotypical memory of him.

13 Nov 2020 13:18:06
Not sold on Korpisalo either. His last minute collapse in the play-in series was worse than Leafs against Boston.
I also don't think Hyman goes anywhere this season. They will look to squeeze him on a new contract likely, but he will want a NTC in return.
I think what we see now is how we start the season. If things are not looking that good, a deadline trade maybe. Otherwise, depending on if we make the playoffs and how far we get there, will determine on who moves out prior to the expansion draft. I fully expect a move or tow prior to the draft so that we don't lose a really good player for nothing.

13 Nov 2020 14:16:41
I'm not disagreeing he let's in some soft goals at bad times but when your "high powered" offence fails to score a goal I have a very hard time pinning the blame on your goalie with a 930+ sv%.

13 Nov 2020 20:06:20
The whole team can be blamed for that series loss. Some like to point the finger at Andersen, some like to point the finger at MNMT, and some like to point the finger at the coach and GM.

There’s plenty of fault to go around. Everyone deserves some criticism for the way the season ended. It is no one persons fault. They all failed in one way or another. And when you add up all the little things they did wrong, it becomes a huge mess like what we saw.

12 Nov 2020 01:08:58
Just something I read today I guess the jackets and leafs talked kerfoot for savard of cbj but Dubas wanted more to compensate for the term difference so here's my idea

Tor: kerfoot dermott
Cbj: savard 2nd-3rd 2021

I think this would give us a legit top 4 savard adds a shutdown defence now I guess since this deal never happened they moved Murray so they would want a dman back I keep going back to the fact that I don't see where dermott fits in and we could do without kerfoot we get a good rental in savard

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12 Nov 2020 12:57:48
How high a pick do you think Dermott is worth if he was traded by himself? About a 3rd? Maybe a 4th? Anything lower than that is undervaluing him. A 2nd is probably close. You draft a guy in the 2nd round and hope he turns out like Dermott. So if Dermott is worth the pick, then you are still trading Savard for Kerfoot, which Dubas already said no to.

Instead of offering up Dermott, who is a player under long term control himself, maybe one of our own pending UFA’s (Hyman maybe) for Savard would be a better counteroffer.

12 Nov 2020 14:03:11
Yea, Dermott should still be worth a 2nd. Why not just make it more simple and Savard and a 3rd for Kerfoot? Although not sure how we take on another $750 to the cap. Could be why he added the 2nd-3rd and sent Dermott the other way, but then I think we are over paying unless it is a 2nd and 3rd.

12 Nov 2020 18:57:40
This makes more sense to me if they take Kerfoot+Engvall for savard+

They definitely use Engvall in some capacity in this deal and it evens out the cap. Maybe a second since the consensus is that Engvall is worth 4th-5th.

12 Nov 2020 20:36:49
I think this situation was prior to the free agent signings. I think it was an option Leafs were looking at before signing Brodie. If true, it would say that Kerfoot was being shopped.

12 Nov 2020 22:03:08
I added dermott because I think if you add another d the leafs have to move one out dermott fits the jackets style of play as a mobile dman and it basically makes it a cap in cap out move I added the pick because dermott is so cheap and kerfoot has term.

12 Nov 2020 22:13:42
I have no doubt in my mind Kerfoot, Johnson and Kapanen were all being shopped. Kerfoot probably just wasn't worth the return Dubas anticipated.

13 Nov 2020 11:37:22
As a 3C, Kerfoot won't bring much in return. Kadri brought a downgrade at 3C and a rental. Logically, I would expect Kerfoot to bring exactly that: a downgrade at 3C and a throw-in.

We would actually need someone to replace Kerfoot long term coming back. Now that Gauthier is gone, if Kerfoot gets traded we would only have Thornton and Spezza for 3C. Engvall and Brooks are more 4C material. If that even.

3C’s are available every year on the UFA market, but then you overpay the player like we saw Winnipeg with Stastny this year. Leafs can’t afford to take another big cap hit. Especially for a position like 3C.

For this reason, I don’t think Kerfoot gets traded anymore unless it involves a younger, cheaper, 3C with upside as part of the return package. And that will be hard to find.

13 Nov 2020 13:13:18
I don't know HL about the Kadri trade evaluation. Kadri already nixed a trade that would have brought in Brodie. Barrie was sought after around the league. He was the next choice for the Leafs when the Brodie trade fell through. I was never big on getting Barrie, but a lot of people thought he was going to be a great fit and Kerfoot would provide much more than he did last year.

Agree on Kerfoot not likely moved unless we have a cheaper replacement in mind, at least for the season after this one.

13 Nov 2020 14:18:07
The Barrie trade should have been the nail in the coffin for Dubas as far as I'm concerned.

For a gm all about analytics it makes so sense why he thought it would work. From day one that trade was made many of us knew how bad it would be.

13 Nov 2020 15:16:46
LL. I didn't like the trade either. I did hear a lot of people talking about Barrie being a good fit and he had been rumoured to the Leafs for a while. Both players he got were good skaters and puck movers while giving up what little grit we had. Unfortunately, as good a value contract Kadri was, it was too much for a 3rd line centre because our top 2 centres make 11+ each.
When we put MMT on the ice together, it is 33.5M. Still blows my mind that that could be thought of as a winning strategy.

13 Nov 2020 22:24:03
The Kerfoot aspect of the trade I didn't think was great value but the Barrie part just killed me. I couldn't and still cannot, understand where some people thought a PP specialist added value to a team with Morgan Reilly.

11 Nov 2020 21:40:03
Leafs trade Abramov, Dermott, Engvall, 3rd
Ottawa trades Sokolov, Bernard-Docker

Probably going to take heat for this one, I know, but that's ok. I’m just using this as an excuse to air a gripe.

I really wish Leafs drafted Sokolov when they had the chance. I really don’t know anything about Hirvonen. But his numbers in Liiga aren’t all that impressive. And yes, I’m aware he is a teenager. But from a lot of the NHL conversion papers I’ve read, Liiga is a lower compete league than the CHL.

Abramov and Sokolov are both QMJHL players with similar stats. But I obviously got to go with the bigger guy. In my mind he has the potential to make the nhl sooner than Abramov and have a bigger impact. Even if he doesn’t make it as a top six forward, he has the size to take a role like Ritchie or Bennett on the bottom six and carve out a career for himself that way. Abramov doesn’t have the same opportunity.

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11 Nov 2020 23:54:19
Slack?

stealing from shi davidi word combo of the day

Hells-no

I agree with you 100% and am all for this trade. I think Ottawa would say that same word combo. But no harm asking right? At least Justin Brazeau is in the leafs system if you’re looking for the goal scoring giant as him and Sokolov are very very very very alike except no one took chance on Justin except the leafs so dubas did something right now didn't he. lol.

12 Nov 2020 13:03:14
I wonder why Dubas even signed Brazeau. Seems like the opposite of everything Dubas wants in player. Such an out of character player for I’m to pursue. He’ll never make the team. We all know that. He’ll be like Gagne and eventuallly be pushed out the system.

12 Nov 2020 22:05:18
I hope brazeau plays for the Marlies and is given a look he was nearly a point per game guy and still is young reminds me of a tuch or mantha type player big power forward.

13 Nov 2020 11:51:16
Size does matter. Dubas thinks he has found some sort of market inefficiency where he is drafting all these lightweight skilled guys that can dipsy-doodle with the puck in later rounds because they are undervalued by the rest of the league. There’s a reason they are undervalued. All these guys he is drafting are gambles. They either make the NHL and are stars, or they are complete busts. There is no middle ground. He’s not taking any “safe” picks - guys that are likely to have long nhl careers in some sort but might not have the upside that some of the smaller skilled guys might have. It’s a hit or miss strategy, and he will strike out a lot more than most as a result.

13 Nov 2020 13:07:22
Brazeau is a free project. Cost Dubas nothing to sign him, not even a pick. He appeases the masses and if it doesn't work, does he really care that much? He can say he has tried bigger guys and they don't fit todays game. If it does work and Brazeau actually plays even 4th line duties at some point, he can claim the idea of him only wanting small skilled players is obviously false. Win Win for Dubas.

13 Nov 2020 14:18:56
Without undersized dipsy-doodles we don't have Robertson.

13 Nov 2020 15:09:33
LL. We all like double D's :)
I think to many, it is more about balance of what you draft or trade for and not all one or the other.

13 Nov 2020 20:02:38
We don’t even know what we got in Robertson. There’s no guarantee his OHL scoring will turn into NHL success. We’ve seen thousands of prospects that year it up on the lower leagues that don’t turn into NHL players.

I’m cautiously optimistic on Robertson. He looks good, but there is no such thing as a sure bet. After seeing all three of last years top picks underperform, I’m not going to get my hopes up for any of our prospects until they actually start to show they are capable of playing nhl hockey at a high compete level.

 


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