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19 Sep 2020 06:25:51
To flames Andersen Dermott kerfoot johnsson
To leafs andersson Bennett 1st 2020

To nucks. Sandin bracco woll Holl
To leafs Demko gaudette

Leafs sign Brodie
Leafs sign Gudas


Hyman Matthews nylander
Mikheyev Tavares marner
Robertson Bennett barabanov
Engvall Gaudette Korshkov

Rielly andersson
Muzzin Brodie
Lehtonen Gudas


Demko
Campbell

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19 Sep 2020 15:24:48
I like the idea of the first trade, but Flames don't have the cap space, nor do I think they would do that deal. If you want Andersson and Bennett, I think it is more like Anderson and Nylander for Andersson, Bennett and 2020 2nd.

Second trade I don't like it at all. I think people are overvaluing Demko at the moment. If the re-sign Markstrom, Demko is likely gone in the expansion draft. He should be had for a lot less if wait and see what happens with Markstrom.

19 Sep 2020 16:58:28
Two more one sided Leaf trades that neither the Flames or Canucks would do.

20 Sep 2020 02:23:23
If Canucks re-sign Markstrom I could see them having some interest in that trade. Sandin is LHD and would eventually give them a helluva good 1-2 punch with Hughes and Sandin as their top LHD. Their RHD needs work still though. Juolevi is developing slower than they like, while Edler ain’t getting any younger, while Myers and Tanev both have injury history and aren’t going to get any better than they already are.

19 Sep 2020 02:41:07
So apparently talks between Pietrangelo and St.Louis have stopped and Pietrangelo will be hitting free agency.

My source of Darren Dreger from his twitter feed. So how do you feel Colt?

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19 Sep 2020 05:45:29
If Petro leaves we all know what he will say lol. "He wanted to much. Army isn't dumb enough to pay him that much money. He's overrated. "

19 Sep 2020 13:25:58
Apparently the Blues offered 7.7 per. That seems a bit low but again that would be a hometown discount. It also sounds like they didn’t disclose the details of the Contract to Pietrangelo or his agent at all. Maybe he won’t cost as much as we all though. Perhaps he can be signed for 8.5.

19 Sep 2020 15:27:42
Yes and if we sign him at 8.5, it will be how only the Leafs would be stupid enough to do that. That said, as much as I would love to have Piet, if he signs here around 8.5, then one of the 4 have to go for prospects and picks. Can't have 5 guys eating up almost 50M of cap space.

19 Sep 2020 19:45:32
Sure you can. That's the Dubas dream lol.

19 Sep 2020 00:21:18
To fla nylander liljegren 1st 2020
To leafs. Ekblad

To canes Andersen SDA Sandin
To leafs Pesce 1st 2020

To yotes. Johnsson kerfoot Holl
To leafs nj 1st 2020 Zacha

To leafs Demko
To nucks dermott bracco woll

To ducks both 1st 2020
To leafs 6th overall 2020
Draft Drysdale

Sign Craig Smith
Sign Dadanov

Dadanov Matthews Marner
Hyman Tavares Smith
Robertson Zacha Mikheyev
Engvall Brooks Korshkov

Rielly Ekblad
Muzzin Pesce
Rosen Lehtonen

Demko
Campbell

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19 Sep 2020 06:01:22
Sorry yotes should say devils.

19 Sep 2020 06:02:37
One can also flip mikheyev and smith.

19 Sep 2020 06:28:02
I'm guessing in this situation it means markstrom was resigned. If he is then they probably don't mind that return. Bracco is a throw away but could still be ok. Woll could fit in as a tandem in a few years and Dermott being the main piece works out. Hard to say what the return on goalies is though. So up in the air.

Looks like a bit of an overpay to me for ekblad. I would take the first out. Nylander is still a 30 goal scorer. Has to be worth close in value.

Man that canes trade has me at a loss. I'm not sure whether it's an overpay or not. Canes get the goalie they want and 2 good prospects. Leafs get pesce. A year ago I say canes want that for pesce alone. After his surgery though? Who knows. Who even knows what he looks like going forward.

Which 1st in NJ sending?

19 Sep 2020 10:54:37
No way Florida moves Ekblad for anything less
If they do then they are really knuckleheads
He is a franchise d man

The canes trade. I am assuming all is well with Pesce after the medical

The nj 1st is the 18th overall.

19 Sep 2020 11:26:36
Also leafslife. I don’t think that may be even enough for Ekblad add. Bracco Or brooks if needed.

19 Sep 2020 15:26:56
Also The canes trade Leafs get a 1st leafslife.

19 Sep 2020 22:09:55
Ekblad is a weird one. Normally I agree that ekblad is worth far more but after the Kapanen+ for ekblad rumours I'm not sure. Of course that was dumb ass Tallon though.

18 Sep 2020 22:24:23
Leafs
Marner
Anderson

Canes
Teravainen
Pesce
2020 1st
2021 1st

Leafs
Our 2020 1st
Johnson

Devils
Vatanen
2020 2nd

Leafs
Holl

Any team
This years third.

This gives us roughly 10 mill with Kapanen trade to sign a goalie at 4.5-5 mill maybe someone like Greiss and then sign someone like Gudas for 2 mill and this gives us 3 mill to resign, Spezza and Mikheyev and if Mikheyev takes a one year 1.5 million deal and Speeza takes a 900 k one year deal it can be done.

Lineup next year.
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Mikheyev Tavares Teravainen
Engvall Kerfoot Robertson
??? Spezza Barbanov

Riley Vatanen
Muzzin Pesce
Dermott Gudas

If any of the deals needs to be sweetened then throw in either abramov or rights to dermott and replace him with Lehtonen/ Sandin.

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18 Sep 2020 23:19:19
Not only is a 1st and johnsson a gross overpay but he also is a ufa and doesn’t play for the devil’s.

18 Sep 2020 23:31:35
Vatanen is BARRIE 2.0
Same style of player not what leafs need!

18 Sep 2020 23:46:31
Lol Carolina easily says no. They love teravainen.

18 Sep 2020 20:31:17
Tor: Abramov or another prospect not named Robertson or Sandin
Tbl: Foote

So idk why but I find it interesting that instead of bringing Foote in the lighting brought in bogo and Schenn might be a guy leafs can scoop and insert right away then draft Schneider

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18 Sep 2020 22:19:23
TB won't trade Foote for any of the 3 Leaf prospects mentioned here.

18 Sep 2020 23:23:38
Well I wouldn’t say never he has one more year on his elc and hasn’t played a game for them got to think he either plays next year or they lose him for nothing why would he resign in Tampa If they won’t give him a chance.

18 Sep 2020 23:46:49
They would if it was Robertson lol.

18 Sep 2020 23:56:50
To be honest, i'm very skeptical on robertson and thing the leafs should sell high on him.

19 Sep 2020 06:29:13
I have been as well hrenklin but I always am about prospects making the jump. Same as euro players. You never really know for sure what you have.

Wouldn't trade him regardless as his cap hit is low and he has a lot of potential.

19 Sep 2020 11:28:52
Lol yes Robertson looked like a dud against colombus

You guys are 🤡.

18 Sep 2020 17:31:02
Okay, this is a weird one, I don't know if I overly like it.

Tor: 7th
Van: errikson, demko, 2021 1st

Tor: Andersen
Car: 2020 1st


Tor: kerfoot, johnsson, dermott
Best picks/ prospects available.

Sign the best of this group that will take league minimum.

Spezza, thorton, simmonds,

gudas.(2 years)

Lineup

Hyman Matthews marner
Micheyev tavares nylander
Robertson thorton simmonds
Engvall spezza ericson

Reilly Lehtonen
Muzzin holl
Sandin gudas/lily

Demko campbell


Leafs pick up our replacement goalie for the future. We get additional firsts. Our team may not be great next year,but we also don't lose a decent player to Seattle, we can probably pay them a 2nd to take erikson.

Our protected list and exposed list would be

Protected
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Engvall
micheyev

Expose
Erickson and bracco

Protect
Muzzin
reilly
holl

Expose
gudas

Protect
Demko

Expose
Kaskisuo
Campbell

Exempt
demko
Robertson
Sandin
Lily
Lehtonen
All the free agents.

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18 Sep 2020 19:53:34
The first trade I don’t get are you trading a 7th round pick or 7th overall either way wth lol.

18 Sep 2020 14:15:33
Tor: 2nd 2021 brooks
Mtl: danault

Tor: Andersen
Col: zadorov rights conditional 2nd 2021
If Andersen makes it passed the first round or zadorov doesn't sign in Toronto

Tor: johnsson Korshkov
Cbj: Anderson 4th-5th

Tor: Nylander
Phi: Sanheim 2nd

Tor: Kerfoot Liljegren Abramov
Van: Demko

A lot of trade ideas but I think it fills some holes for the leafs going forward while investing in the future

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18 Sep 2020 15:19:24
Mtl doesn't need the cap space and already have 3 2nds in this draft

Unless Col is unhappy with Grubauer than getting Anderson doesn't make much sense as they seem to be after a better backup.

Still doubt CLB wants to move Anderson for Johnsson

How much of Nylander's contract are we eating so Philly can fit him under the cap? They are in cap hell.

Massive overpayment for Demko imo, plus they are tight on the cap to take on Kerfoots 3.5.

18 Sep 2020 15:45:28
Mtl is still a rebuilding team and would gladly take another 2nd because they won’t get much more than that as for the Colorado trade Grubauer wasn’t spectacular and dealt with a number of injuries Columbus I think would move Anderson if they get enough value for him philly trade is what it is they are going to try and move JVR but if the leafs really had to they could retain a bit As for Demko Kerfoot is a bit of a dump wouldn’t be hard to make room for him on Vancouver and Liljegren just hasn’t fit here and should be move while he has some value and Abramov is a good prospect but that’s what it will take to get a good young goalie.

18 Sep 2020 16:36:34
MTL is more likely to move Danault at the TDL. No need to move him now when they such young centres otherwise. The point was, they don't need the picks more.
Neither was Anderson spectacular and he costs more than Grubauer.
That was the point, Johnsson isn't enough to move Anderson.
Philly will have trouble moving JVR or others without adding assets. They want to clear cap space not add 7M even if it is Nylander while giving up a cost controlled young asset and a pick. Nylander is not a need for them.
Putting all our eggs into an unproven young goalie who had a couple great playoff games is a huge gamble. Explain why they need Kerfoot at all. If Markstrom doesn't re-sign, they traded their only goalie.

18 Sep 2020 17:54:59
The Rumor was they mtl wants to move him to sign domi then they got Suzuki and kotkenemi.

18 Sep 2020 17:58:52
What's with the Johnson for Anderson trades constantly? Anderson is the better player. That's why we want him. Why would CBJ do it?

18 Sep 2020 19:55:54
There about equal johnsson and Anderson because both had injured years but Anderson is an rfa and johnsson has term plus I added Korshkov who could play 3-4 line for them johnsson is a torts kinda player.

18 Sep 2020 23:48:04
They aren't equal though. Both had a bad year and we're hurt.

Anderson is younger. Anderson has a 30 goal season before this one. Anderson is an RFA.

Anderson is clearly the better and more valuable player.

18 Sep 2020 05:04:49
Leafs trade Andersen, Holl
Arizona trades Kuemper, Lyubushkin

Leafs trade Johnsson, 2nd NJ trades 1st (18)

Leafs trade 1st (15), 1st (18)
Nashville trades 1st (11), 2nd (37)

Leafs draft Askarov
Leafs draft Barron

We address our two most pressing needs. These guys won’t be expected to perform right away. We have Kuemper to buy us two years to figure out what Askarov can do. And Barron has just as much chance as Schneider at developing into the stud RHD we need. He too has good size and good prospect reports. We would need to use the cap space saved in this deal along with the money from the Kapanen trade, to put towards signing a 1RHD. This would get us within striking distance.

Schneider is a great player prospect. Of course he is. But so is Barron. Barron brings the same thing to the table that Schneider does, and he is not much further behind in terms of talent and ability.

I’m Askarov is a franchise goalie in the making. Another sore spot for the Leafs for a number of years has been the goalies. I’d really like to see them take the bulls by the horn and draft that young goalie that is a can’t miss. We need to replace Andersen. And the sooner the better. In the meantime, we have Kuemper to hold down the net spot for a couple years until Askarov is ready.

Sorry for the long multi-trade proposal. I don’t normally do so many trades in one posting. It gets difficult to keep track. I prefer to post my individual trades separate. And then see what the response is. After a couple different attempts and have a good feel at what might work, I assemble them into a overhaul, something like this. It’s just confusing and hard to keep track of the moving parts. In the end, the team never looks much better and you’ve lost 2 guys somewhere.

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18 Sep 2020 11:01:52
Still rather take Schneider first them maybe that goalie.

18 Sep 2020 12:43:41
So Freddie is going to accept a trade that sends him to Arizona and Arizona is going to trade their #1 with two years left on his contract at a lower cap hit for a #1 on an expiring contract that will want a raise? That should get a No from ARZ.
Johnsson may be worth a 2nd, so two 2nds=the 18th OA pick? NJ should say No.

Third one seems plausible, but banking on getting certain players in the draft and banking that they are around at the pick you have. is hopeful at best.

18 Sep 2020 13:27:06
Johnson does not get u a first lol.

18 Sep 2020 14:34:43
The Leafs still have 2 very promising goalie prospects. No need to draft a 1st round goalie at this time.

18 Sep 2020 14:46:08
Arizona may take it strictly because Andersen is owed only a million cash.

18 Sep 2020 15:26:17
Yes, the 1M in real money would be tempting to ARZ, but you still have to ice a team. They have No cap space with only 17 players signed and are likely to sell off there 30+ year olds with higher cap hits, not add.
Keumper at 4.5 is money well spent. His real cash this year is only 3.5. They would likely love to move any of Kessel, Stepan, Grabner, Goligoski etc before moving Keumper.

18 Sep 2020 16:02:06
Colt its johnsson and a 2nd.

18 Sep 2020 16:25:53
Yeahvthat doesn't get you the 18th. He is a bottom six 30pt player. Get a grip brah. I guess sandford and a 2nd is worth 18. Lol.

18 Sep 2020 17:00:37
Sandford 58 points 157 games
Johnsson 67 points 125 games
Thomas 75 points 136 games
One of these first 2 is a point every other game kind of player and one is not. Johnsson is closer to being equal to thomas than sandford is to johnsson. So why don't we do johnsson and a 4th for thomas instead? Does that work for you? And don't come back at me with thomas is a centre, he hasn't played centre all year. He is going to be like nylander and marner, came into the league a centre but a better fit on the wing, the main difference is he doesn't have marner or nylander's skill.

18 Sep 2020 17:04:08
Oh and the brah stuff c'mon man, you're just making yourself look like a dweeb.

18 Sep 2020 17:59:58
Kuemper for Anderson could happen. Rumour has it they were late paying bonuses and cut staff. They need to shed salary.

18 Sep 2020 18:04:47
Johnson is not in any way shape or form close to thomas. Lol you kill me brah. Thomas is a center for a defense first team. He is 21 and had 42 points in 66 games at 20 years old. Johnssons best year he had 43 points in 73 games at 24 while playing left wing with taveres or mathews. hmmmmm but yeah they are the same.

 


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