Leafs rumours 3

19 Jun 2026 13:22:22
So Leafs got Raddysh.

If they are listening on Knies, I would hope it's a huge return. The team that makes the most sense to me would be San Jose. They have the pieces to make the deal and trading Knies in the East would bite big time.

I am not for trading Knies in general, but if they do.

SJ
Knies $7.75M
Rielly $7.5M
Carlo $3.5M

Tor
Dickinson $1.8M(with bonuses)
Misa $4.255M (with bonuses)
Chernyshov $.945M
Wetsch $1M

SJ gets a power forward in Knies at a perfect age for their group. They need D especially with Dickinson going to Toronto.

Rielly needs a change of scenery and would slot behind Orlov. Carlo would fill into the 2 RD role. They brought in Kesselring for the 3 RD already. They take on all of Rielly's contract.

Leafs get their 2C in Misa allowing JT to move down, Top 4 puck moving LD in Dickinson, a good size right shot RW that can score in Chernyshov and physical likely bottom 6 role player in Wetsch who should provide some depth scoring.

That's the type of return I would want to see if Knies is going, but I doubt he is.

19 Jun 2026 12:37:48
Definitely over paid and added extra years but that’s a problem for tomorrow. Today, the Leafs got better.

19 Jun 2026 12:45:30
I’ve heard that the Leafs were looking at a top-pairing D and a 1st plus another player, but with Raddysh being brought in and getting paid idk if Knies makes sense to trade now. My big thing is it can't be a futures-based trade.

I’d like a top young centre plus maybe a 1st and something else, but to me none of it makes sense. Just keep Knies who hasn’t even peaked yet and build out the depth.

19 Jun 2026 12:50:03
If the Leafs are sending that I’d want Misa, Dickinson and the second overall pick. Leafs could add Avs first from next year or a second this year.

19 Jun 2026 13:10:14
Ckps. If they take on Rielly and his whole cap hit, don't think you get the 2nd overall. If losing Dickinson in a deal, the Sharks likely use that 2nd overall for a D-man to replace him. Why they may do the deal I mentioned.
With the 1st overall, Leafs would be adding McKenna (likely), Misa, Dickinson, Chernyshov and Wetsch while creating more cap space to chase a guy like Tuch and maybe Marchment.

D with Raddysh and Dickinson added to McCabe and OEL starts to look pretty good, especially if Tanev can play again and they still have Danford+ developing.

19 Jun 2026 13:52:57
Of course Knies would be perfect in SJ, he would be perfect for any team. That’s why everyone is inquiring about him. Should be more incentive not to trade him. But all you guys are after is guys that get points (which we’ve had for years), we need character players that go in the dirty areas and stick up for each other.

Think of our top 6 without Knies, who is sticking up for Matthews when he gets hit? Misa, Nylander? Cowan? Guys would kill the team moving this guy, not even in his prime yet.

19 Jun 2026 15:22:33
Clarky. I made it clear that I wasn't advocating for a trade of Knies, but if the Leafs are to do it, which I have no control over, then I would hope a big return is coming. I said San Jose also makes a good trading partner for the Leafs. Many have said they are not wanting to trade Knies, but if the Leafs might they throw out a prop. Let's not make Knies out to be something he isn't though. At least he is not yet. Knies is not really a fighter.

3 in his career. He has fought Whitecloud, Hischer and Ludvig. None of them are really fighters or heavyweights by any means. He didn't go after Gudas when Matthews was injured, Domi did. Wetsch is a scraper. I also mentioned later to ckps that with the extra cap space Leafs could target guys like Tuch and Marchment.
I don't think anyone wants to trade Knies, but is about if the Leafs do and what we be a good return. Most get how good he is likely to be.

19 Jun 2026 16:22:14
Trade Reilly to Vancouver and send Robertson and a pick with him. In return get EP. No retention of salaries. That’s the trade to make. 2C with the guidance of the Swedish meatball (Sundin) to help him with his confidence. Hiller PP guy will know how to unlock his offense again.

19 Jun 2026 18:04:33
I suggested this over a month ago. Totally agree. Cheapest way to get a 2c.

19 Jun 2026 18:18:15
@RLF, I don’t care if he is tough, he sticks up for his teammates. Most won’t even push a guy after a dirty hit on one of their own, they look at the refs with their hands up. Who on that return you got from SJ is gonna go in front of the net or get into dirty areas? Back to a perimeter team.

If a package is coming from SJ, Sherwood should be a part of it. Need guys to fill roles. But again I would not move this guy unless it’s a Massive overpay with a legit power forward coming back as part of the deal.

19 Jun 2026 05:15:25
I posted early 2025. Leafs need to gamble on EP40 20-30% retained.

2 - 2nds
And prospects to fill to gap.

19 Jun 2026 12:11:43
Why not just give them Reilly and Robertson and a 3rd pick and swallow the whole cap hit? You make no sense. If the rumour is true and the Leafs are finalizing a sign and trade for Raddysh, you need to get rid of Reilly. Especially if the AAV is $8m plus for Raddysh.

Which I’m not understanding cause that is what he will go for in the open market so why give compensation to a division rival unless they r taking a player u are trying to get rid of and they want.

19 Jun 2026 12:51:37
Champ... Leafs will be giving up a mid to late round pick only... Worth it to secure it now. Gives Raddysh an 8th year too, which he probably wanted.

19 Jun 2026 13:11:37
8th year also brings the AAV down which the Leafs would want.

19 Jun 2026 13:15:58
If someone isn’t making sense, it’s you, champ. What are you talking about? I’m talking about Elias Paterson

19 Jun 2026 16:02:26
I’m making perfect sense. U need to read b4 talking. I explained it pretty clear. First and foremost Nucks not swallowing 20-30% of EP salary for 2nd rd picks. Secondly, it would be more beneficial for Leafs to offer Reilly and Robertson or a prospect and a pick and swallow the whole salary now that they’ve signed Rad.

Look at the Karlsson trade; it will explain a lot to u. They got 3 roster players plus a 1st rd pick to retain $1.5m and had to include the Habs to make it work.

19 Jun 2026 18:19:41
No thanks! We already have Nylander who gives up on his team, we need another at a crazy $amount?

19 Jun 2026 18:49:00
Champ
What a mess of a reply
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19 Jun 2026 03:47:10
Hawks
Knies
Carlo
1st 2027 Avs
Quillan

Leafs
4th overall draft Stenberg
Mckenna Leafs
Reid Sharks
Malhotra Canucks

Levshunov
Vanacker
2nd 2026 Leafs pick
2nd 2027 Canucks pick

Ducks
Rielly
Haymes
Both 2nds above
Stolarz

Leafs
McTavish
Husso

Free agents
Tuch
Raddysh
Tarasov
Ferraro

McKenna Matthews Tuch
Cowan McTavish Nylander
Robertson Tavares Stenberg
Lorentz Grouix Joshua
Tverberg

OEL Raddysh
McCabe Tanev
Ferraro Levshunov
Andrae

Tarasov
Hildeby
Husso waived and clears to AHL with Akhtyamov

19 Jun 2026 10:05:14
McTavish could never play with Cowan and Nylander …. He’s far too slow.

19 Jun 2026 12:13:11
What a mess of a proposal 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

18 Jun 2026 16:59:28
I really want to know why everyone is so against trading Knies. If Kyler is right and the ask is a top pairing D++ I don't see the issue.

I'm a big fan of Knies, but if you want a top pairing D as everyone has said, if you want a retool, he's really the only trade chip.

What if you got something like a top 15 pick in this draft, top pairing D and a prospect, would that not make this team better now and in the future?

18 Jun 2026 17:44:52
No, it wouldn’t.

18 Jun 2026 17:53:56
My only gripe I have with moving Knies is because it’s the same playbook as the Kadri situation. We have a player that plays a type of game everyone wants to see and the solution is to punt them out the door… Knies has not even peaked yet and he’s already a unicorn type player.

Personally I think moving Knies will ultimately blow up in Toronto's face. They have lots of cap space, make 1–2 free agent signings and stay patient.

18 Jun 2026 18:19:19
Not to mention he’s been training with Matthews in Arizona. Find a Rw for that first line. McKenna second line with Nylander and get a 2c.

18 Jun 2026 18:24:03
They are against moving Knies because he's a very unique, high quality young player. It's also feeling very inevitable that they do in fact move him because...

a. They won the draft lottery and will have a glut of left handed wingers.
b. They have the worst D corp in the Atlantic, and there's no guarantee they get Raddysh, and even if they do, there's no guarantee Raddysh can replicate last year's performance.
c. He's the only high quality asset without trade protection.
d. They don't have any 1st round picks. Corporate wants playoff revenue, and they can't afford to shit the bed another year and happen upon a top 3 pick. They're on their own for the next 2 years.
e. The value of Knies is such that they, in theory, could both acquire valuable roster pieces to help them compete for a playoff spot next year AND address the need going forward to get younger in light of them not having their next 2 first rounders.


Knies
Carlo

--FOR -

Beaudoin
Simashev
Durzi
19th overall

18 Jun 2026 20:39:30
OK OK. I know the Knies lovers will hate this. But what the heck. If we can bring in Multiple pices and make another team overpay, why not do it? He literally is the only piece that get us a good foundation in return? As far as people calling him a Unicorn, what do people consider a Unicorn? To me it's guys that can do things that are not expected from them at their size etc? Like Mario Lemieux or Tage Thompson, Guys that are extemely large that can stick handle in a phone booth, that kind of thing.

Guys liek Shaefer than play defense but can drive to the net at a speed like McxDavid on the same shift. I like Knies but I don't see a Unicorn. I see a very very good power Forward . Not great Defensively but a good Offensive power forward. Is Knies training with Mattews? I heard he trains in Minnesota. Might be wrong. And if he was training with Matthews in Arizona? Why would that matter? He practiced with him for the last 3 seasons in Toronto. I am sure a summer of trining will not change either of them much.

18 Jun 2026 20:58:31
@suffering I'm happy to know at least someone else sees it. He's a young power forward which is fantastic. He is not going to put up 100pts or 50g though.

If someone will hand over a return like MTL was prepared to do or even more if a bidding war starts, why would anyone ever be against that?

18 Jun 2026 21:43:48
I think you wait and see what you can do in free agency before you make a decision on Knies.

18 Jun 2026 22:01:53
I would far sooner see Nylander and Matthews trade before Knies! But there are many delusional Leafs fans that over value the Leafs players. Like “why don’t the Leafs trade Robertson to San Jose for the 2nd overall pick”.

Yes you’s know who you are.
Unfortunately you have to trade something of value to get something of value. Rumor has Buffalo listen on Byron and if we can get them to add someone else or a first I might then part with Knies.

18 Jun 2026 22:33:13
It has to be Makar, Shafey or Werenski, that type of a home run and the Leafs aren’t stupid. I really doubt it’ll happen. Just a slow media day gotta report something.

18 Jun 2026 22:57:20
I’m just don’t get how people don’t se what Knies brings. Staal an experienced power forward but these guys are always your best players in playoffs. See it time and time again. Just like Hyman was but Knies is better than Hyman. But as Hrenkin says “have to go be up something good to get something good”. Just makes me shake my head. Trade freaking Nylander, he will get you a similar package and he doesn’t have half the heart Knies has. I’m so dumbfounded every time I see this debate, for me you get guys like this who have the right frame of mind, play the right way, never take short cuts and build around this guy and let him be the example the young guys look up to.

Not Willy and his no backcheck, drive, no compete in corners or on a backcheck. And whenever he changes he skates to the bench 2mph. Like what is that telling the young guys? If Leafs move this guy, I’m done, another GM that has no clue and keeps giving away guys that can lead to a sniff at the Cup. Still shake my head at the Woll trade for literally nothing, so I’m scared it could happen again.

18 Jun 2026 23:03:26
Sorry Hrenkin, I messed up your quote. “Have to give something good to get something good” 🤦

18 Jun 2026 23:14:14
I seriously believe this is Toronto media making this 💩 up about the Leafs quietly shopping Knies. Ppl say they r heavy on the left side. But with what? Joshua, Robertson, Maccelli. Lorentz, cmon, you can't be serious? Imagine Knies and McKenna as your top 2 left wingers.

I wouldn't give that up, sorry. Go sign a Rd instead of trading for one by giving up Knies. Anderson, Raddysh, trade away Reilly more cap space. I heard they r aggressively shopping Robertson and Maccelli. Don't need to give up Knies when u have cap space. I'd get rid of Stolarz too.

19 Jun 2026 00:13:34
@suffering I'm happy to know at least someone else sees it. He's a young power forward which is fantastic. He is not going to put up 100pts or 50g though.

If someone will hand over a return like MTL was prepared to do or even more if a bidding war starts, why would anyone ever be against that?

@Clarky Nylander does not get the same package as Knies. Willy has a full NMC, is almost 30 and signed for over 11m per season.

Knies is 23 and signed to a reasonable cap hit. If Nylander was willing to waive his NMC and could get the same return then yes, I agree.

Did I just see Makar or Werenski for Knies? Lmao. Knies isn't McDavid. He isn't worth the best defenceman in the world by a mile. If Knies was a centre that was at 35g and 90pts then you could make that case. As a 60pts winger you just can't expect that kind of return.

19 Jun 2026 00:26:43
Not only has Knies not reached his peak as a player yet but he is signed at a very team friendly contract.
It would have to be a very special package to pry Knies out of the Leafs lineup.

19 Jun 2026 00:58:07
My point exactly and if it isn’t if it’s a lmao to ask for that then stop talking about it.

19 Jun 2026 02:24:53
The problem is LL you only count points. What about how they play or what they bring to the team? A guy that’s willing to go balls to the wall for the team is contagious. You need to set an identity, this team doesn’t have one.

I’d rather the team rally around how Knies plays over Nylander. Caufield had a million goals this year but who would rather in the playoffs between him and Slafkovsy? Slaf all day.

18 Jun 2026 12:08:27
What if Toronto signed Simon Nemec to a bridge deal worth $4.7 million per season for two years, and Nemec played on the top defensive pairing? Then Morgan Rielly could be traded somewhere, and I think Jake McCabe could be a good partner for Nemec.

And draft second round pick Simon Nemec's brother, Adam Nemec.

I would also swap Michael Pezzetta for Angus Crookshank.

Maybe Rielly and Nick Robertson could be traded to New Jersey, with Dougie Hamilton coming to Toronto in return.



Then Hamilton could play on the second pairing with Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

I could also see Brandon Carlo being moved for something like a second-round pick, with Villeneuve might also be a good option, playing on the third pairing alongside Andrae.

If Chris Tanev isn't able to play, the defensive pairings could look something like this:

McCabe-Nemec
OEL-Hamilton
Villeneuve–Andrae.

18 Jun 2026 12:44:30
100% in favour of going after Nemec. Hamilton isn’t much of an upgrade on Reilly and more money, so pass. That 3rd pairing is not good.

18 Jun 2026 13:10:22
What I don't get about adding Andrae and just assuming he is on the team, is that wasn't Thrun supposed to have all the same skills but 6' 2". They have put up similar number in the NHL and although Andrae got sheltered minutes, Thrun wasn't sheltered as much getting mostly D-zone starts.

Seems like we just traded for a smaller version of a guy we have in the A almost the same age.

18 Jun 2026 18:25:42
Rather offer sheet Bourque from Dal at the $4.7m.

18 Jun 2026 20:59:15
I would love to get Bourque. But who knows. He might be got for a bit less than that or possibly more. Just have to reach out the agent and he will set the pre determined price and if the player even wants to go to the market.

I think he would be worth the $4.7 but if you can get him cheaper then open the conversation with the agent first.

18 Jun 2026 11:01:31
Apparently the Leafs are still exploring a Knies trade. Chicago was interested.

Tor- Knies, Robertson, 3rd
Chi- 4th overall, Levshunov, Korchinski

Chicago gets their guy to play beside Bedard that they covet and depth scoring. Toronto gets 2 young puck moving d-men and draft Stenberg at 4 (Assuming Reid and Malholtra go before him).

With Toronto bringing in McKenna and Stenberg they still have a big hole at 2C.

Tor - Reilly, 2027 1st Col
Van - Pettersson

I know people don't like Pettersson but he is a former 100 point player that could be had for cheap.

He might enjoy playing on an all Swedish line in Toronto.

Top 6

McKenna-Matthews-Cowan
Stenberg-Pettersson-Nylander

Tavares to 3C

D-core still needs work but with these moves they actually clear more cap space moving Reilly and Knies so you can spend on a guy like Hamilton, Raddysh or Carlson or 2 of those 3.

18 Jun 2026 10:27:08
That Swedish line will be -75 😬

18 Jun 2026 10:46:37
The day the Leafs trade Knies, is the day I become a permanent Ducks fan. That has to be one of the softest teams I’ve ever seen anyone put on this site. Tkachuk and Bennett would enjoy playing these guys.

18 Jun 2026 13:43:13
Look at clearly overreacting like a typical Leafs fan. Sometimes you have to trade something good to get something good. I'd hope my judgement u til you see the return.

18 Jun 2026 15:27:21
Problem is that Matthews and Nylander asked for 2 things, a mobile D-man and some ”Dogs” up front to forecheck, dig in the corners for them and stick up for them. None of these players address that! I think Mason Marchment will be in Leafs top 6 this year.

And I hope Knies is still there on the other line. Then sign Boone Jenner for third line center.

18 Jun 2026 18:06:12
If u r absorbing the whole cap hit of Peterson you don't need to give the Nucks that 1st rd pick. Reilly a prospect or even Robertson and a 2nd or 3rd rd draft pick enough. No thanks. Leave Knies out of trades these r the same guys saying that the coaching candidates had been narrowed down to four and totally missed the bus with Hiller.



McKenna Matthews Cowan
Knies Pettersson Nylander
Tavares

19 Jun 2026 00:35:45
Don’t want Korchinski.
Korchinski was drafted back in 2022 (This will be his D+5 season) and still has not been able to make the Blackhawks team even falling behind Sam Rinzel on the Blackhawks prospect list.



#4, Sam Rinzel (RHD) Vaclav Nestrasil (RW)
Use the #1 pick to take McKenna (I prefer Stenberg) and the #4 pick to take Viggo Bjorck (RW)
Selecting a new, top 6 RW allows the Leafs to trade Nylander.

18 Jun 2026 00:17:05
Sharks
Knies
Rielly
Carlo
Quillan
1st 2027

Leafs
2nd overall. Draft Reid
Misa

They get 2 more dmen and the jewel Knies
And a 4th line center who can pk
We get our stud dman and Second line center

Draft McKenna
Sign
Raddysh
Jenner
Tuch

17 Jun 2026 23:44:55
Leafs don’t need to include the first.

18 Jun 2026 09:46:35
Yes they do.
Sharks are taking Rielly's contract with no retention.

18 Jun 2026 10:59:50
No to moving Knies. Not sure why people are under estimating the value of a power forward that has skill, will fight, sticks up for teammates, can’t be knocked off a puck and battles in the tough areas. All his goals are scored right outside the crease. Who is gonna take that role? We have a bunch of perimeter players and few guys that drive the net and you goofs want to trade him. There is maybe a handful of effective power forwards in the whole league and we have 1 of them and he isn’t even in his prime yet.

Sorry to be harsh but people putting Knies in trades don’t know hockey. After watching that Stanley Cup finals, you guys still think we can win with the heartless perimeter players. Obviously every other team is inquiring about Knies, how come we don’t hear much about teams going after Willy? Because he is not a character piece that will drive a team to the finals. He is just a YouTuber with good hockey skill and IQ. But after Chyaka traded Woll for practically nothing, it wouldn’t surprise me.

18 Jun 2026 12:07:05
I don’t want to move Knies either. But if they are set on doing that, including him in this deal means you do not have to retain on Rielly.

18 Jun 2026 15:13:24
I agree with Clarky if we trade Knies and don't get absolute boatload in return, I'm out. You just don't trade players like Knies. Trade Nylander all day over Knies.

18 Jun 2026 18:12:11
Chayka not moving Knies. So where u guys are coming up with if they r set on moving Knies bs? Trev supposedly tried at deadline to Habs but I don’t believe it one bit. If he did ownership told him no way and he got canned for even suggesting it.

If u look at Chayka and what kind of GM he is he’s not going after guys like Jenner. He wants the team faster, younger and more mobile. To that point not even Tuch would be on his radar at the price he’s asking.

18 Jun 2026 21:26:52
One thing we need to be cognizant of in Trade suggestions, is when moving out players that have a lot of salary and freeing up our cap is this...... if we have a ton of cap space but don't manage to sign any top free agents. And we don't get any players of immediate value that have salaries.

We can end up signing a bunch of crap UFA's at overpayment prices. just to hit the minimum ceiling on the cap. These trades need to bring back roster players and prospects but not skew the cap to far up or to far down. It can be a fine line sometimes.

17 Jun 2026 23:32:25
PHI: Tippett, Barkey, Luchenko, Jiricek

TOR: Danford, Carlo, Quillan, Robertson
2027 first rd pick (COL)

17 Jun 2026 23:11:41
I don’t think Danny Brière had that many concussions 🤕….

16 Jun 2026 23:25:43
This is the 1st of many things that will happen in the next few weeks (don’t over analyz). After this trade we have more options. The Leafs got more cap space, another draft pick and better on D.

17 Jun 2026 09:38:26
I think they’re putting together an offer sheet on someone.

17 Jun 2026 13:35:41
Maybe, we can't top 4.something max since we don't have the proper draft picks in the upcoming drafts.

17 Jun 2026 15:25:02
Yeah we are screwed as far as any high end RFA offer sheets.

17 Jun 2026 21:35:43
Question can we use Col 1st to offer sheet?

17 Jun 2026 21:39:31
Well crap Kesslring was one of my targets but he’s a Shark now but maybe a return for Reilly.

17 Jun 2026 22:37:16
@ leafsgm78. No, we can’t use that Colorado pick. It has to be one of our actual picks not a traded pick. Unless it was one of our original picks we trade to get back. In other words, if we traded someone to Philly or Boston to get those picks back.

17 Jun 2026 22:55:11
Gotcha I sort of clued in after I posted that but thanks for clarifying that!!

16 Jun 2026 23:08:40
Had to dump Woll or Stolarz in order to keep Hildeby and Stolarz has a 16x team no trade clause.

16 Jun 2026 22:14:28
What would it take to get McMichael from Caps as our 2C. And would you fellas be interested in such an acquisition? Would the Caps even entertain the idea?

16 Jun 2026 22:37:35
I like McMichael and he had an off season last year. If the price is right, im in.

16 Jun 2026 19:29:22
It’s gonna save the Leafs 5m+ and they’re getting a 3rd. The Leafs could definitely use that 5m+ on better players.

16 Jun 2026 21:19:12
???? Justify it all you want, it was stupid. A big nothing burger. Another bad trade for this 💩 franchise

16 Jun 2026 21:26:30
Like Who?

16 Jun 2026 21:40:38
They traded the right goalie but return could’ve been more.

16 Jun 2026 21:57:50
I'm hopeful that Woll proves the better trade choice than Stolarz, but I’m totally underwhelmed by the return.

Maybe Florida was offering zero value on bringing back Stolarz.

Andrae certainly is not the answer to our D problem. He better have lots of speed at 5.9, even if he's carrying 194.



Why take back a goalie for the AHL? I think the plan has always been to promote Hildeby over Akhtyamov so it makes little sense. What value could they get for Ersson with his numbers?

The third pick is #85, still possible to get a good pick but one that requires time to develop.

16 Jun 2026 23:00:41
Boys!!! Woll had a horrible season, horrible World Cup and is a walking bandaid. We got a 3rd rounder. Take it and run!!!!

18 Jun 2026 18:16:52
I still believe Stolarz is on the trading block as well. If they find a team that’s not on his 16 team no trade list that wants him they will pull the trigger. Minny Stolarz plus plus for Gustafson.