Leafs rumours 4

21 Dec 2025 01:37:33
tor: rielly

NJ hamilton

1 for 1, its time to really think about a change. we have 2 undeperforming high cap hit players. toronto does this for a berube style offensive defenseman. NJ does this for the 1.5m cap space. hamilton is moved to the second line pp unit so coming to tonrot to play the first would entice him. rielly would get a lower profile match up slotting 2LD behind luke hughes.

21 Dec 2025 10:31:29
Why? We need cap space. For an overrated dman who’s seen his better days behind him at 9.5mil.

21 Dec 2025 12:43:46
Hamilton doesn't want to play here.

NJ doesn't have a reason to make this trade.

Hamilton doesn't fix the real issues with this roster.

This is a video game trade.

20 Dec 2025 23:16:19
Utah
Matthews

Leafs
Iginla
Beaudoin
Lamoureux
Schmaltz for cap
Hayton

Devils
Schmaltz
Benoit
Robertson


Leafs
Nemec

21 Dec 2025 10:39:09
We need picks and roster players. Guenther, Crouse, 1st rd 2nd and 3rd 2026.

21 Dec 2025 12:56:49
Lol
Blowhard.

20 Dec 2025 15:00:50
Buf
Robertson $1.825M

Tor
Malenstyn $1.35M

Both teams need a small shakeup. Buffalo just getting a ne GM, he may want to start to make a move. Robertson ahs the more offensive talent, Malenstyn the more physical and defensive presence.
I still think Laughton should be tried on LW with Matthews and Nylander. Move Knies to play with JT and Cowan. 3rd line Joshua,Roy,McMann. And then a 4th line of Malenstyn,Lorentz,Jarnkrok. Domi sits with Maccelli.

20 Dec 2025 16:30:34
Why are we trading our only player who actually tries.

20 Dec 2025 17:01:30
You mean the guy that has 2 goals/ no assists in his last 15 games with time spent in the top 6. Yes he tries, but it's past time for him to go. He has 12 points in 31 games. I mean it's classic Nick Robertson. 1 assist in his first 7 games. Then he goes on a good run for 10 games and disappears on the score sheet the next 15. He then sulks for a bit if demoted in the lineup. It is almost a given that whatever line Robertson is on, will get hemmed in their own zone at least once a game for a ridiculous amount of time. Let him have a fresh start.

20 Dec 2025 22:58:28
I’d take a 2nd for Robertson and Domi
Please someone take that meatsack off our hands.

22 Dec 2025 12:00:17
Leafs2425…. You’d be lucky to get a second for Robertson. Adding in Domi drops it to a third.

20 Dec 2025 05:33:51
Tor - Matthews
NJ - Nemec, Silayev, Palat, Another cap dump of their choice, 1st 2026

NJ missed on hughes but still has the assets to make a matthews deal work. Toronto rebuilds from the blue line out.

Tor - Nylander, Stolarz
Mon - Fowler, Reinbacher, Beck, Hage, 2026 1st, Laine

Toronto trades stars now for a bunch of prospects and takes Laine to make salary work.

Hopefully leafs can sell off guys like OEL, Mcmann, Reilly and others to tank for the rest of the year to retain their pick which is top 5 protected.

Build around this new young core and hopefully turn things around in 2-3 years

20 Dec 2025 10:47:00
Not gonna dump on the trade I think your getting decent value but I do not this the leafs would have any reason to trade willy in division.

22 Dec 2025 12:01:18
Leafs get screwed in Habs deal. Laine? Really?

19 Dec 2025 19:04:42
To Tor
Hyman
To Edm
Stolarz

To Tor
Brossoit 50% retained
To Chi
Maccelli

To Tor
Marchment
To Sea
Robertson
Jarnkrok
Thrun

Knies Matthews Hyman
Marchement Tavares Nylander
Joshua Roy McMann
Lorentz Laughton Domi

Rielly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
OEL Stecher
Benoit

Woll
Brossoit
Hildeby

STOLARZ hasn't been put on LTIR even though it's been awhile so something else is going on here internally. Oilers need another goalie since jarry went down. Desperation means you pay and Hyman would be the sacrifice. Solves you right wing first line. Second u grab March for second line left side. Grab Bros for goalie security. Wait for Carlo to come back from injury see if he's a new man. If not trade at deadline hopefully he plays well enough to get some value back. Roll with it. Oh ya and u dump berube and that horrible coaching staff

20 Dec 2025 00:23:25
My hardest no is on brossoit. He's not a good character guy in my books.

20 Dec 2025 00:23:55
Not sure that the Oilers would want Stolarz seeing as there doesn’t appear to even be a timetable for his return to play?
Both Broissoit and Lyons appear to be available to the Oilers without giving up their “heart & soul” Hyman.

20 Dec 2025 04:25:15
Marchment is in Columbus now.

20 Dec 2025 06:19:17
For sure, Edmonton will trade a top 6 playoff style widget for a goalie that no one has any idea when he will play again.
Chicago can't wait to retain on a guy they don't seem to want for a guy Toronto wont play and take on his full cap hit.
The last one is at least somewhat realistic value wise, but why would Seattle want to.

20 Dec 2025 19:02:44
RLF is just bitter cause none of his posts cone with actual stats that justify the return. So criticizes anything other ppl put forward. Chicago wouldn’t want a 25yr old right winger who put up 50+ pts? Is an RFA. May not fit here but he does for a lot of teams. Retain on a goalie they buried in the minors. Stolarz situation is more of an internal thing not injury thing that’s why he wasn’t placed on LTIR. He wants out.

20 Dec 2025 20:14:22
You mean like this?

Tor
Schenn
Lambert
Perfetti
To Win
Carlo
Robertson
Maccelli.

21 Dec 2025 18:51:05
Blowhard
Seriously
This may be your worst posting yet….

19 Dec 2025 17:50:47
To Tor
Schenn
Lambert
Perfetti
To Win
Carlo
Robertson
Maccelli

20 Dec 2025 00:24:42
Seriously?
Or are you just trolling Leaf fans?

20 Dec 2025 19:05:02
Carlo younger and better than schenn. Perfetti is nonexistent Robertson better stats. Lambert wants out of Winnipeg Maccelli 25yrs old and has put up a 50+ point season already ya I’m serious. Do the comparisons. Jets need a shake up as much as leafs.

19 Dec 2025 17:19:32
Summary of my trades that cleared the final 3 pieces of the core 4.

Out-Matthews, Nylander, Rielly and Benoit

In-M.Robertson, Cuylle, McQueen, Luneau, 2026 1st(Anaheim's), Kane, Klimovich, Misa, Gaudette.

20 Dec 2025 00:26:38
If it can be done then get it done!

Time to remake this team.
The Core 4 era was over the day Marner left if not a year earlier when Marner had decided to leave.

20 Dec 2025 19:06:56
RLF going on another rant about his post got to luv it. RLF stands for Really Lost Fan ???.

20 Dec 2025 21:36:36
Rant? Lol

Hmmmm I wonder if anyone could come up with what Blowhard stands for.

21 Dec 2025 18:52:34
Blowhard stands for————-
Insert answer.

19 Dec 2025 17:14:56
SJS
Nylander $11.5M

Tor
Misa ELC
Gaudette $2M

SJS advances their rebuild and gives Celibrini a goal scoring winger. Allows them to develop Smith as a C instead of a winger, which means moving Misa is not as big a loss as he would likely play behind Celebrini in the 2 hole. Leafs take on Gaudette and his cap hit.

Leafs get a future #1C and local boy in Misa. Gaudette is a solid enough player for the now. Clear a ton more cap space.

The re-tool/rebuild well on its way with the other two moves of Matthews and Rielly. With all the cap space and new assets, they can build around the guys they kept and some of the ones they added.

19 Dec 2025 17:24:17
We had Gaudette and lest him go why would we want him back? I don’t see this being enough for nylander.

19 Dec 2025 18:01:29
Blowhard. Do you read the whole post? I said Gaudette is added mostly for cap reasons and is solid enough for now. ie, traded 3 NHLers for mostly prospects. Have to still ice a team. He is fine at $2M and tradeable if necessary at that cap hit.
Nylander is worth more than a 2nd overall pick who put up 134 points in 65 games last year of junior. On the Canadian Olympic team and already played 7 games for the Sharks getting 3 goals as an 18 year old. Really? Is he worth Celebrini then? Or still not enough?

19 Dec 2025 18:10:14
Misa 3 points, not goals.

19 Dec 2025 20:28:07
Nylander has to waive. I think he would waive to go to the Rangers.
Nylander for Lafreniere and Schneider and a pick!

19 Dec 2025 20:46:23
Yes he is already out with an ankle injury. Hasn’t proven anything in nhl. 3pts in 7gms. He definitely not worth Celebrini but worth more than just Misa and gaudette.

19 Dec 2025 20:51:51
Nylander better than 1pt per game player last 4yrs. 40+ goal scorer the last 3yrs. He produces in the playoffs if u look at his stats. So please quit while u think u r ahead.

19 Dec 2025 21:33:08
Misa is already back from his ankle injury. BTW, How many NHL points did Nylander have as an 18 year old? Oh yea, 0. Great point you made there as usual.
You also get $9.5M in cap relief.
Keep up the good work.

20 Dec 2025 00:31:13
I had suggested back in June, prior to the draft (when Nylander still had maximum trade value) that the Leafs offer Nylander and Robertson to the SJS in return for the 2nd overall pick and Sam Dickenson.
The longer Nylander plays for Berube, the less trade value he has.

20 Dec 2025 12:36:27
As much as I like Nylander, I would do this trade in a heartbeat. But, I dont think SJ would have any interest.
Nylander doesn't really fit their time line, plus they are more in need of a young 1D, which the Leafs do not have.

20 Dec 2025 13:19:09
RLF
You just poo-pooed me on trading off many players (except Matthews and Knies) and targeting recent high draft picks like Misa and now you’re suggesting it.
So it seems you have reconsidered?
But Misa and Gaudette are NOT enough for a proven game-breaker like Nylander.
Replace Gaudette with Musty, for me at least.

20 Dec 2025 16:20:02
Rsears, I didn't poo poo you.
I said - "It's great to target those players you have, but they have to want to trade them for what the Leafs have to offer. You're saying keep Matthews, Cowan etc, who is it that you want to trade that lands Misa, Musty and/ or Dickinson? "
How is that poo pooing you? It's a legitimate question.

For Nylander, to be clear - You want the recent 2nd OA, where many scouts had him rated 1st overall, plus another former 1st rounder in Musty who is close to a point per game in the A at 20. Take no cap back. And that is the minimum.
Sorry, don't see it happening. Willy hasn't scored in 9 games and has only 5 assists in that span. Held pointless in 6 of those games. He has shown very little compete for the past bit. He is on pace for a 31 G, 74 pt season. Lowest totals in a while. I hope you are right though.

19 Dec 2025 17:00:58
I did a Matthews trade, now time for Rielly. I will get to Nylander next.

VCR
Rielly $7.5M

Tor
Kane $5.125M
Klimovich $.833M

Vancouver where many of us have speculated Rielly might be willing to waive. With Hughes now gone, they could use a fast skating vet LD that can carry the puck. A change of scenery could improve Rielly's game.

Leafs take on the expiring contract of Kane and get a B prospect in Klimovich. Bth good sized guys who don't mind the physical play. Leafs clear a little more cap space on top of the Matthews deal I have done. Nylander next.

19 Dec 2025 17:25:45
RLF I hate to say it but you undervalue the leaf players. I know it’s more frustration with their play of late but on the market they r worth more than u r giving them in return value.

19 Dec 2025 17:57:12
Blowhard. How can you say I undervalue them as fact, there has been no trade of any of them to date. That's your opinion, not fact.

In this deal, Leafs get a former 2nd rounder and Kane, that they could possibly flip if they like at the TDL for probably no less than a 2nd with the way he is playing this year. He is a playoff type of player. May even get a late 1st for him. So, value wise it is either 2 2nds or a late 1st and a 2nd for Rielly. He is worth more than that in your opinion?

19 Dec 2025 20:26:18
6goals and 16pts in 32games is worth a late first or 2nd? Cmon RLF u can’t believe the ? you r shovelling right now. Rielly has 23pts as a dman! You r delusional and you r totally undervaluing the leaf players Miss trade included.

19 Dec 2025 20:40:09
Blowhard. Maybe you should go back and look at what 40 pt wingers get, especially at the TDL. Try Hagel for one. Maybe look at what Jeannot return was. Talk about delusional and believing their own ?. Dude, you way overvalue Leafs players I am not in the minority thinking that.

19 Dec 2025 20:44:35
FYI Canucks got Buium in the deal he’s a stud they don’t want Rielly at $7.5mil for another 4yrs while trying to rebuild.

19 Dec 2025 21:36:35
It would allow the Canucks to bring buium along slowly and not play him 20+ mins a night until he is ready for that role and then as Rielly ages, he gets less minutes. Not hard to understand why they would consider it.

20 Dec 2025 00:01:06
Hughes career average is over 24mins a game lol bring him up slowly. 20mins is the norm buddy. Look at all solid 20yr old d men all play over 20mins a game.

20 Dec 2025 00:03:37
You just proved my point with your Jeannot and Hagel comparison. If a bum like Jeannot got that haul with not even half the production what makes u think you r not undervaluing leaf players. Keep shovelling u are just digging yourself further into the ? pike ???.

20 Dec 2025 00:33:12
Excellent trade RLF.
Sometimes I wonder if Blowhard even follows the Leafs?

20 Dec 2025 06:27:46
Those two guys got extra value for the way they play, with alot of heart and physicality. Not something Rielly has shown. As for the 20 year old dmen playing over 20 mins per, like who? Typically it is one's that are special. Minnesota was playing Buium about 18 mins a night. Why wasn't he averaging over 20 minutes s a night in Minny? If I'm digging a hole, it's because it's the only way I can get down to where you are.

19 Dec 2025 16:29:14
3 Way deal

Ana
Panarain $11.6M(NYR)

NYR
Matthews $13.25M(T)
Benoit $1.35M(T)

Tor
M.Robertson $.775M(NYR)
Cuylle $3.9M(NYR)
McQueen unsigned(Ana)
Luneau $.865M(Ana)
2026 1st (ANA)

Anaheim uses some of their immense assets to bring on Panarin for a playoff run.

NYR picks up Matthews for an older and on an expiring contract Panarin. They swap Robertson for Benoit, but need to put Cuylle in the deal to balance value.

Leafs shake up the boat. Clear enormous cap space. Move on from Matthews while getting back a lot of young players. Robertson is likely a bottom pair D, but may develop into a #4. Cuylle a top 6 winger with size already. McQueen, former 10th overall pick and is a huge centre putting up almost a ppg in his first NCAA year at 19. Luneau a puck moving offensive right shot D. And draft capital in a 2026 1st.

20 Dec 2025 00:35:45
Perfect if Anaheim believes that Panarin truly elevates them into the same stratosphere as Colorado, Dallas and Minnesota.

19 Dec 2025 15:39:20
Is Laughton even worth a 4th round pick in a trade?

19 Dec 2025 17:35:17
More than that I would say u can get a 2nd.