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27 Sep 2022 21:26:12
A look to trade deadline day.
Min: Dumba (50%)
Tor: sandin, Robertson
Ana: 4th round (tor) (25% Dumbarton salary)
So with Minnesota cap issues getting 2 nhk ready assets with lower cap hits and a couple years of control.
Anaheim gets a draft pick to eat 1.5m cap hit for remainder of the season.
Tor gets a rhd that can play top 4, throws some hits, and chip in with secondary scoring. Losing sandin might be a sacrifice longer term, but resigning dumba and shifting brodie to 2ld can make muzzin expendable for next season.
1.) 28 Sep 2022 00:20:09
I think you're really light here.
2.) 28 Sep 2022 00:41:00
Like your trade target though not a big dude, does play with some consistent physicality. Can contribute modestly on the offensive side of the puck, like a Liljegren, Sandin or Gio. Based on last years prices for acquisitions & also taking into account a RHD, for sure a 1st rd pick is coming back don't pick up the ohone otherwise. Also as you stated at the trade deadline, so Knies just entering the fold. So say Robertson at that time has 15 to 20 goals & equal numer of assists playing with Nylander & Tavares are the Leafs trading him. Also any players even with unwanted salary, Minn can repackage in a trade.
Toronto getting Dumba just my opinion
Holl, Knies, Niemela & a 1st & 4th rd pick in 2023 to Minn for Dumba. With Minn eating half of Dumba salary.
Reilly Brodie
Muzzin Dumba
Giordano Liljegren
Sandin.
3.) 28 Sep 2022 12:31:57
They're getting half a year of dumba not Makar. That is a gigantic over payment Kennedy.
4.) 28 Sep 2022 14:15:19
@Randy I'm not sure if it is. Holl and Niemela have almost no value. Some kind of mid-late pick.
It's really just a top top prospect+1st+4th for a top 4D at 50% rental. It might not be a great deal, but I don't see Kennedy's prop as a massive overpay.
5.) 28 Sep 2022 14:34:04
@kennedy
So the leafs top 2 prospects + 1st and 4th for a B rate top 4 defenseman. I stand with my assesment which is closer to the muzzin value trade for 1/ 2 season.
25 Sep 2022 16:15:56
Tor: clifford, woll, 2023 3rd
Arz: maveric lamoureux
so arizona is looking to add some goalie depth. and need another winger with ladd being out for the season. mav is about 3 years away from being a full time RHD but hes a giant on skates that can build into a very intimidating player.
1.) 25 Sep 2022 17:23:05
I'd take a chance, on his name alone.
2.) 26 Sep 2022 01:41:25
Arizona already holds either Leafs 2023 - 3rd round pick or 2025 - 2nd round pick (their choice) from the Lyubushkin trade.
3.) 26 Sep 2022 18:19:44
Waterbufgalo, they also have ottawas 3rd.
18 Sep 2022 18:43:06
Tor: Nylander, 1st, sda
Nyr: LAFRENIÈRE
Think rangers might bite?
1.) 18 Sep 2022 21:50:30
Don't think they have the cap space for this. Would need to make it part of a bigger deal.
2.) 19 Sep 2022 00:21:30
I feel that is a huge overpayment. He hasn't panned out as a 1st overall pick.
3.) 19 Sep 2022 00:38:10
What are these guys smoking. Nylander is established plus a1st and SDA for a guy that might be a bust. pls give me what ur smoking.
4.) 21 Sep 2022 01:04:23
Nylander plus a 1st plus a prospect?
How about Nylander for Lafrenier plus a 1st plus a prospect.
01 Jul 2022 20:11:26
Leafs:
Nylander, Muzzin, 1st
LA:
Byfeild, VIlardi, Quick, 2023 3rd
leafs then use the 3rd to offload mrazek somewhere like chicago, buffalo, or detroit.
28 Jun 2022 13:33:47
Leafs call up Colorado to ask to talk with Manson, if a deal can be made give Colorado a 7th
Manson 5x5
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Muzzin, Robertson
To LA
2nd, vilardi
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Knees, sandin, 1st (22), 4th (23)
To Winnipeg
Hellebyuck
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Nylander, holl
Seattle
1st, 2x second (22-leafs) (23-leafs)
1.) 28 Jun 2022 14:06:56
to continue thumb hit send, had to finish.
Nylander, holl
Seattle
1st, 2x second (22-leafs) (23-leafs), 4th (23-winnipeg)
(backup options, nashville with Askarov being the focal point of return to the leafs)
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this frees up some space to sign players and make another splash on the FA market. the leafs lose a LD in sandin but they have alot of depth. on that side so there some expandability
Bunting Matthews marner
XXXXXXX Tavares XXXXXXX
XXXXXX Kampf XXXXXX
Clifford XXXXXXX Simmonds
with free agents to sign (Mickeyev, blackwell, kase, engvall)
some prospects still available (abruzzees, hirvonen, niemala)
Reilly - Manson
Brodie - XXXXXXX
Giordano - Liljgren
with lots of options available to be had (resign lyubushkin, or dip into the affordable Free agent pool)
Hellebyuck
Woll/ Kallgren/ affordable free agent
this still requires mrazek to be traded not totally sure where his best landing spot is, maybe buffalo, detroit, anaheim (if they trade gibson), chicago, etc.
2.) 28 Jun 2022 17:58:32
I like the idea of Hellebuyck. I would see if they're interested in Campbell on a sign and trade, with a contract they're comfortable with. Then send them Kerfoot, Robertson and a conditional 2nd. That becomes a 1st if the Leafs make the Finals. Not sure if they'd want Kerfoot, may have to be Sandin. I'm just reluctant to trade Knies. Finally a big bodied skilled player we so desperately have been needing.
3.) 28 Jun 2022 22:59:45
There is zero chance the Jets trade Helly to the Leafs for that one sided, pro Leaf trade.
4.) 29 Jun 2022 02:30:07
Don’t want that trash from the peg for the gold you are proposing.
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31 Jul 2021 00:21:18
So what are the leafs going to give up to get pk subban at the deadline 50% retained? I think that's the top trick up dubas's sleeve.
1.) 31 Jul 2021 06:29:41
What's the point in adding PK? Is it so he can play 3rd pair?
2.) 31 Jul 2021 11:43:40
Kyle wants everyone to see him do his stupid skating drills irl so everyone can laugh.
3.) 31 Jul 2021 12:18:14
@LG lmao.
14 Sep 2020 00:11:43
Not a trade persay, but i'm pretty sure I'm thinking holl will not be traded or even thought of. He is a perfect candidate to be available for the expansion draft. If you take a look at it, I actually think its a perfect signing now.
1.) 14 Sep 2020 07:18:59
Yeah I been wondering about that myself. Kapanen is gone and will be replaced by some plug, you then presumably protect Reilly, Muzzin, Dermott (or whoever the new guys are) .
Team will look a lot different by then though. It isn't until after the 2021 season is concluded. By then it's really hard to say who will be exposed.
Been wondering if Muzzin is exposed by then depending on how Dermott progresses. If Dermott takes a huge step forward they may just let Muzzin go because of age. But as I said, team will look different by then by a lot.
2.) 14 Sep 2020 14:48:49
I could be wrong but didn't we give muzzin a NMC?
3.) 15 Sep 2020 02:00:20
The expansion draft is at the end of this season LeafsLife. Lol. This is the 2021 ending season.
Muzzin has a NMC, but it becomes a NTC after this year. I’m not sure if that flips over before or after the expansion draft though. If it’s before the draft, he can be exposed. If they wanted to expose him that is.
I assume they protect Rielly, Muzzin, Dermott and expose Holl. But they might trade Dermott and protect Holl. I’m pretty sure Rosen, Marincin, and Warsofsky all meet the minimum requirement for exposure.
No matter how I look at it though, either through trade or through expansion draft, Leafs are going to lose one of Dermott or Holl by the end of next year.
4.) 15 Sep 2020 08:07:07
Or Dubas trades a second+Rosen so they take Marincin.
15 Sep 2018 19:58:57
I'm hearing word that nylander has shown up In niagara falls. Seems like they have made ground on negotiations.
30 Aug 2018 01:03:41
So I read most of the proposed trade going on and I'm just like these are so outlandishly 1sided. So I'm curious on seeing just what you value players at.
So let's figure it out.
I value nylander as a top 10 pick + 2nd rounder based on club control, scoring ability with potential including his ability to move into center.
Leivo I see no more than a 3rd rounder as he doesn't play enough to even say he's worth much. His club control is almost choking to an end so the value lowers a bit
Carrick is in and out of the line up like it's a pair of underwear. Use it once and throw it in and wear it once its washed. His value I think is 4/ 5th rounder.
We have a lot of assets and I see you way over valuing them like they are connor McDavid.
So what do you feel are the other values of leafs roster players. Maybe it'll reduce the mass amounts of stupidly 1 sided trades ove been seeing every day.
23 Aug 2018 02:06:34
What's with everyone trying to make trades using spare parts or depth pieces. You want something good you got to trade something good. You want pesce you give kapenan, you want karlsson you losing liljigren. Take a look at what you want. Top flight damon isbstartingbat 3 pieces, a talented roster ready player,
28 Sep 2022 14:34:04
@kennedy
So the leafs top 2 prospects + 1st and 4th for a B rate top 4 defenseman. I stand with my assesment which is closer to the muzzin value trade for 1/ 2 season.
26 Sep 2022 18:19:44
Waterbufgalo, they also have ottawas 3rd.
25 Sep 2022 16:03:23
why does everyone have such a major chub for kanes cap hit. the bare minimum is we need 2.6m available to take the contract on. yes I get he can put the puck inthe net but, hes getting older and slower. id muich rather use a first to bring kappy, or bolster the blue line right side or just keep the pick to brign in much more long term peices once dubas is fired for just slapping a new coat of paint over the his problems instead of fixing the issues properly.
18 Sep 2022 18:52:11
Dumbest thing I think you’ve said so fat.
04 Sep 2022 23:09:41
Why bid everyone selling off the entire prospect pool for s team that hadn't got out of the first round.
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