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01 Apr 2024 20:00:23
Not sure how valuable LaCombe is to Anaheim, but they do have 2 higher LD prospects in Mintyukov & Zellweger.

To Toronto
LaCombe RFA

To Anaheim
Robertson RFA
2024 4th
Voit ELC

I think LaCombe has the potential to fill the 2LD slot, along side Lily (if Leafs decide to keep him after the playoff run) .

Future Dpairs
Rielly - Roy
LaCombe - Lily
Benoit - McCabe

Do the values make sense?



1.) 01 Apr 2024 20:32:34
Tags. Man, I do not want to imagine LaCombe and Lily as our 2nd pair. lol
I may be wrong on LaCombe, but I don't see a #3 development out of this guy (As you know I have Lily as a #5). LaCombe hasn't been able to translate his offence at the pro level, he isn't very physical and defence is not his strong suit. They are trying to work on his defence in Anaheim this season, but he is lost at times. Who knows, he just turned 23, so there is room for improvement. At this point, it is Robertson straight up imo. I wouldn't add more as I am not sold on him. He wouldn't be my target.

2.) 01 Apr 2024 22:08:55
RLF I'm not sure how good this guy will be, but I too was hesitant to put him and Lily together.
I was going to slot him on the 3rd pairing initially (since he has played his off side) and then move him up if he develops.
Maybe they try
Rielly- Roy
McCabe - Lily
Benoit - LaCombe.

3.) 02 Apr 2024 03:53:15
No no no no Lacombe for Robertson straight up and you have added Voit and a pick. Robertson will put up 35 goals next year. Leafs have leverage on Robertson and around 2 million bucks will be a steal. If leaf's can get him @2 million til he is UFA.

I don't have year Robertson becomes a UFA maybe after 25-26 season I'm guessing.

Don't trade Robertson McMamm or Holmberg next season that's $4.5 million for maybe 60 to 70 goals min.

To all you guys next season will be the best we have seen since Mathew's &marmer arrived. Great UFA players are coning and we have 6 emerging forwards here or arrive soon




25 Mar 2024 18:38:52
What do you guys think for playoff D-pairs?

I'm agreeing with RLF on
#1 pair
Rielly - McCabe
(I think they should run with this pair remainder of season and see where it goes) .

#2 Pair
Edmundson - Liljegren
(Iike Edmundson's physicality & complete, plus he's got playoff experience. A good partner for Liljegren who is being giving the rope to move forward. I hope Lily takes it and runs)

Now I think I'm going to agree with Clarky (no Brodie)
#3 Pair
Benoit - Boosh
(Both tough and will play limited minutes. I think Benoit can move the puck up enough for this pairing, that's my main concern with these 2).


1.) 25 Mar 2024 19:38:25
Tags. These would be my pairs atm right now as well. What I have said Brodie is that if he can get his game together that is a big plus for the Leafs as then it creates more options.

2.) 25 Mar 2024 20:05:22
Agreed RLF.
I just think the first 2 pairs should be set as I've stated above and the 3rd pair will be some combination between Benoit, Lyubushkin & Brodie. With a very, very outside shot from Timmins.
Let's see how they play out rest of season.

3.) 26 Mar 2024 11:13:28
The leafs did it last year and had success running 11-7 I mean they went out and got bodies back there and moved no one out just makes more sense and also allows the leafs to get there too guys a few extra shifts my pairs would be this.

Benoit mccabe
Reilly boosh
Edmudson Brodie

Again I’ll die on this hill Brodie is a fine player he just needs to be deployed right keefe let’s him sit and they get good performance but then messes up the pairs just to get Brodie into the top 4 Brodie played his best hockey this year with liljgren and edmudson has looked good with liljgren so I’d play those three together and let the other two pairs that we have seen work do there thing.

4.) 26 Mar 2024 14:20:46
I don't think they go 11-7 this year. The top forwards especially looked gassed in the 2nd round. Keefe seems to be waking up to playing more balanced minutes.

5.) 27 Mar 2024 03:13:41
Reilly - Liljegren
Edmundson - McCabe
Benoit - Lyubushkin
Giordano - Brodie - Timmins.

6.) 28 Mar 2024 01:34:41
Why not Edmundson - Timmins, just to be different. I think liljigren gets traded this off season.



25 Mar 2024 15:48:41
Robertson RFA
Liljegren RFA
2024 1st
2024 5th (SJ chooses)

To Toronto
Ferraro $3.25M/ 2yrs
***2024 1st (via Pittsburg)

***only applies if Pittsburgh is out of bottom 10, hopefully it is an 11th or 12 OverAll selection
Toronto drafts either Carter Yakemchuk or Zayne Parekh.

Is this enough?



1.) 25 Mar 2024 18:50:18
I don't see the value for SJ tbh.

They swap to a worse pick, give up Ferraro and receive Robertson and Lilly.

I'd say don't do the pick swap and it's a deal.

2.) 25 Mar 2024 19:21:57
@LL what do you think it takes to get that pick?
Leafs need to draft a potential top 4 RHD. There should still be a few good potential top 4 RHD at that spot.

3.) 25 Mar 2024 21:01:13
@Tags if I'm SJ I want a massive haul for that pick.

If I'm looking at it from their point of view, if the pick ends up in the top 10, it becomes unprotected next draft. I don't think Pitts gets much better (If at all) . They could end up with two picks in the top 5 without Guentzel, Malkin, Letang and Crosby aging another year. I don't think Pitts has goaltending Jarry is just hot.

Just my take though.

4.) 26 Mar 2024 01:58:47
Sorry LL, I guess I didn't explain myself correctly.
I'm saying if the pick ends up outside the top 10, what would it take from the Leafs to get it?
It gives us a chance at Yakemchuk or Parekh.

5.) 26 Mar 2024 11:16:03
I don’t think you get that pick regardless of what you send them they are gonna be patient and rebuild through the draft and then overpay some vets on shorter term deals much like Anaheim and Chicago.



21 Mar 2024 13:41:23
I've moved to the computer instead of my phone, so let's try this one last time lol

Leafs trade in summer

Robertson RFA
Timmins $1.1M/ 1yr RFA

To Toronto
Burroughs $.55M/ 2yrs (@50% retained)
2024 3rd round pick (via TB)

Trade Kampf & Jarnkrok for more picks

Leafs re-sign
Bertuzzi $5M/ 5yrs
Domi $3M/ 4yrs
Dewar $1.15M/ 2yrs
Benoit $1.1M/ 2yrs
Liljegren $3.25M/ 3yrs
Jones $1.4M/ 2yrs

UFA targets
Roy $5.5M/ 6yrs
Dillon $3.5M/ 4yrs

New Lines (tweak Willy to 2C)

Domi-Matthews-Bertuzzi $21.25M
McMann-Nylander-Marner $23.753M
Knies-Tavares-Cowan $12.860833
Holmberg-Dewar-Reaves $3.3M
Tverberg $.851667

Rielly-Roy $13M
Dillon-Lily $6.75M
Benoit-McCabe $3.1M
Burrough $.55M

Woll $.766667M
Jones $1.4M

Projected Cap $87.7M
Leafs Cap $87.582167

Nylander at 2C will be the main issue to get through, but Marner & McMann makes this line defensively responsible.
Cowan may also be a stretch, but many player's his age and skill have transitioned into the NHL.



1.) 21 Mar 2024 14:32:50
Geez Tags, has Mackin been showing you how to post the same trade 3X in one day? lol

I don't mind going after Burroughs. He and Benoit would be a solid, physical 3rd pair. I think Leafs are giving up too much. He's a late bloomer 3rd pair guy. To me, something like Tverberg and a 5/ 6th round pick should do it, no retention. Timmins could stay as the 7th D or move him for a pick and get a cheaper 7th D.

Domi, Dewar, Benoit and Roy signings I am good with.
Need Bertuzzi to come in a little better on money.
No way would I want to see Liljegren signed for $3.25M per. People were complaining I wanted Peeke at $2.75M. Just for those that told me Peeke is trash. Small sample size, but 3 games in Boston, all wins. 1 pt, 5 hits, 8 blocks and a +3 averaging around 18 mins a night. Amazing what playing on a good team will do for your stats compared to playing on a crap team. Liljegren goes out along with Robertson imo.

I would look at targeting Trenin of course, and Walker to fill out the D. I'd rather Walker at $3.25M than Liljegren. Jones wouldn't be bad, but maybe a guy like Stolarz or Brossoit would be a bit of an upgrade. No desire to trade both Jarnkrok and Kampf, but if one has to go for cap space, I would likely move Jarnkrok if bringing back Bert and Domi and adding Trenin.

No way I want to see Willy at C. He's a winger.

2.) 21 Mar 2024 15:00:17
@RLF lol, yes I just finished the Mackin school of posting props 101.
Anyways, I would like to retain both Domi & Bertuzzi, but can't figure out any other logical ways to do it, especially along with upgrading our defensive which is an obvious need.
Maybe you can figure out something that makes sense.

3.) 21 Mar 2024 16:21:58
Tags. lol Making sense is subjective. We are all just spitballin here.

Let's say Roy signs for $5.5 as you say and Walker at $3.25M. That leaves the Leafs about 11.75M. Benoit at $1.1M and Boosh at 1.5 and leaves approx. $9.15M with the D pretty much set.

Rielly Roy
McCabe Walker
Benoit Boosh

Move Timmins for a pick. Up to 10.25M
Bert 5X$4.6M
Domi 3X$3M
Leaves $1.55M

Move Jarnkrok for prospect/ pick
Up to $3.65M
Sign Dewar 2X$1M
leaves $2.65M
Sign Stolarz 2X$1.5M
leaves $1.1M

Domi Matthews Marner
Bert JT Nylander
Knies Kampf McMann
Homlberg Dewar Reaves

Rielly Roy
McCabe Walker
Benoit Boosh


Fits under the cap I think. Then when JT's deal is done, money opens up.

4.) 21 Mar 2024 18:11:32
No doubt, but it's fun spitballing.
I personally don't like Kampf as 3C, I know you're okay with it though. To me, he doesn't supply enough offense that's why I want him moved and that's why I go round and round in circles lol.
IMO we really need a 2C koving forward because I think JT would be much better served as a 3C next year.

5.) 21 Mar 2024 18:14:00
I thought his course would be called anyway the wind blows.

6.) 21 Mar 2024 19:43:01
Randy. No man, that's the PHD course, you have to learn the basics before you get to the "anyway the wind blows" full on ideology.

7.) 23 Mar 2024 11:36:01
Agreed on Nylander staying at RW.
Think there’s no need to continue that experiment.
We have learned his D is lacking; he has a hard enough time covering the slot and point let alone having him support the D at net front and corner.



21 Mar 2024 13:22:24
Let's try this again, fat fingers as Rsears always says lol.

Domi & Bert becoming permanent features for the Leafs and I belive we have the cap space to re-sign with some line juggling.

First trade in summer
Robertson RFA
Timmins $1.1M/ 1yr RFA

To Toronto
Burroughs $.55M/ 2yrs (@50% retained)
2024 3rd round puck (via TB)

Teade Kampf & Jarnkrok for picks only

Bertuzzi $5M/ 5yrs
Domi $3M/ 4yrs
Dewar $1.15M/ 2yrs
Benoit $1.1M/ 2yrs
Liljegren $3.25M/ 3yrs

UFA targets
Roy $5.5M/ 6yrs
Dillon $3.5M/ 4yrs.


1.) 22 Mar 2024 00:40:49
$5M for what Bertuzzi produces seems like a $1M dollar overpayment.
Also Bertuzzi is already 29 years old so 5 years is far too much term.
3 years should be the maximum.
Resigning Domi at $3 would be fine but like Bertuzzi, 3 years term would be max.

Resigning Liljegren will be interesting after Washington (for some reason) decided to give Rasmus Sandin $4.6M for 4 years.




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17 Apr 2024 14:43:00
So, the top 2 lines seem to be clearly established.

Mcmann-Tavares-Marner (if McMann healthy)
Knies-Holmberg-Nylander (I would think)

***I'm not big on Kampf playing 3rd line C, but since it doesn't look like JT or Domi will slot into 3C, do you think Kampf is a better option over an inexperienced Holmberg?

Or maybe a surprise with Jarnkrok at 3C, he has more offense but hasn't been used in that position at all in Toronto.


Obviously Jarnkrok would be in dependant on health & Robertson dependant on injuries.

RLF I know you've been advocating Kampf at 3C all along.



1.) 17 Apr 2024 15:04:23
Tags. It's not that I think Kampf would be one of the best 3C's in the game or anything, it is more that I think if you put him with two other big wingers with the some offensive ability, that line would be a net positive.

When Tampa had Goodrow, Coleman and Gourde, they had some size, some speed and were very good defensively and all played physical. I think Toronto could create a similar outcome with McMann, Kampf and Knies. Leaving Domi, Matthews Marner and Bert, JT and Nylander as the top 2 lines. Or if you want to leave Domi and Bert with Matthews, then you can load up with Nylander, JT and Marner as the 2nd line. Then go with Dewar, Holmberg and Reaves as the 4th unit and you still have Jarnkrok when ready and Robertson and Gregor if needed.

2.) 17 Apr 2024 16:08:29
@RLF my problem with putting all the big boys on two lines is they don’t play the right way when they are all together. They try carrying the puck in or making high risk passes. If they keep a grinder on the line, they dump the puck in and try to create offence through forecheck/ puck retrieval and cycling. This IMO is the style they absolutely need to play against Boston, if we have consistent unnecessary turnovers, we lose against this team. Dump and chase all day, finish your hits and have each others backs and we should be ok. Need special teams to be better than Bostons as well.

3.) 17 Apr 2024 19:00:58
Clarky. Faith enough and a good point. Domi and Bert aren't afraid to dump it in. If the big boys don't buy in as they are the ones typically carrying the puck, then I'm not sure a grinder will force them to dump and chase.

4.) 17 Apr 2024 21:59:48
@Clarky I like the idea of spreading the three lines out as well. I really don't like how Marner looks with Mathews or Willy with Mathews. It's just too much of the same.

This season is the most Mathews has spent away from Mitch in a few years, and he might have 70 goals. Don't need Mitch.



14 Apr 2024 13:07:31
Something I read in an MLHS article describing the Edvinsson goal. I thought you guys would enjoy it.

"Nylander got beaten by the pinch and then seemed to have his controller disconnect from the video game console, drifting aimlessly while Edvinsson made a cut to a dangerous area. "

BTW I do agree completely with this assessment, Nylander looked like he was out for a leisurely skate.


1.) 14 Apr 2024 14:28:22
Tags. lol. Yes, Willy is what Willy is. He is a tremendous offensive talent. He is capable of dominating at both ends, but he just doesn't want to. It seems that simple to me.

As I said and not trying to harp on it, but it goes to your post, he should be no where near the PK. Leafs have Kampf, Marner, Dewar, McMann, Jarnkrok, Holmberg, Knies that can all do a better job imo.

Also, if our 3rd line is Holmberg, Robertson and Willy in the playoffs. . . that line will be fishing pucks out of their own net constantly. Willy's production has been almost nothing with them as it is.

2.) 14 Apr 2024 15:31:26
RLF I don't like this 3rd line as well. I've stated if Nylander and Marner are switched, then maybe this line can work.
But I just don't see Keefe playing Marner on the 3rd line, and for that matter, I don't see Marner accepting it gracefully.

3.) 14 Apr 2024 17:18:09
As you know, I prefer a heavy 3rd line. I am not as concerned about a ton of scoring from it, as I am wanting it to chip in some, but mostly wear and shut the other team down. Get the puck in their end and keep it there while being defensively responsible in our end. We have no lines that will play any significant minutes at the moment that are physically hard to defend other then the Matthews/ Bert/ Domi line.

4.) 14 Apr 2024 17:42:56
This is why I really like my initial line set-ups

Bert-Matt-Willy (2 gritty players)
Knies-Domi-Marner (2 gritty players)
McMann-JT-Jarny (gritty & defensive)
Homberg-Kampf-Reaves/ Dewer (shutdown/ energy)

All lines have grit, defensive and offense. IMO this is the best way to spread out over 3 lines.



31 Mar 2024 03:59:52
Looks like Sammy is going to be priced out of Toronto, unless Marner is traded to make cap space.
I was thinking if Murray looks good after his injury, maybe Leafs should look into re-signing him next season.
I'm thinking they should be able to sign him on a one year show me contract for $1.35M, a show.


1.) 31 Mar 2024 14:25:40
Not sure I want Sammy back anyway. He could be really good, he could be a mess if you give him a contract and security.

So, the gamble on Murray is assuming his poor play was due to a lingering mobility problem due to a bad hip? Maybe. He is only 29. A one year show me for around $1M if he can show he is moving really well and looks like he has regained some form. Can always bury him if he sucks. I could maybe get on board for that.

2.) 31 Mar 2024 15:48:52
I think this is the most interesting thing for the offseason because so many teams are looking for goalies not many out there… can we trust woll to stay healthy? Do they promote a prospect the kid in Russia has been good hildaby is interesting too idk what Brad can do.

3.) 31 Mar 2024 15:51:30
It's just a different direction, instead of re-signing Jones or someone like Stolarz (whom you like) .
I like the fact that Murray has won 2 championships and would definitely be good in the room.
My only reservation is health, both he and Woll have shown to be injury prone.

4.) 31 Mar 2024 17:19:19
Tags. The two championships isn't a big thing to me. Many really good goalies will never win a Cup. As a show me project, I am not against the idea. Sign him for a $1M as insurance like the Leafs did with Jones. I would still look for a backup for Woll though. Leafs have to give Woll the net at some point and stop searching for better. Get a solid backup and sign Murray is a pretty good plan I think.

5.) 31 Mar 2024 21:29:01
Sammy is hot and cold and has injury history.

I’d trade his rights to LAK for rights to Roy. LAK need a goalie badly and Clarke is ready to make the jump.

Invite Murray to camp and assess his play.

6.) 01 Apr 2024 01:33:17
I'm fine with Sammy coming back, but it's only a 1yr deal. He will get better from somewhere else.

Murray can go. I have no faith in him yo return to form.

7.) 01 Apr 2024 12:25:29
LL. I'm not fine with it, if it's 1 year at say $5M. He needs to take a 1 year deal at around $3M and then I think Leafs should consider it depending on how he performs in the playoffs that is.

8.) 01 Apr 2024 17:30:22
@RLF The big issue as I see it; who else do you pickup?

I'm not a big fan of having Sammy long term either, but if it isn't him then you need Woll to be the go to guy going forward.

9.) 01 Apr 2024 20:11:21
@LL IMO I think Woll will be and should be our go to guy with the cap position we're in.
We sign a viable backup such as Stolarz (as RLF has suggested) and we go from there.
Maybe the following year when JT's contract is done, we can look at a different direction if Woll doesn't take the reigns and runs with it.

10.) 01 Apr 2024 20:12:45
@LL. I do want Woll to be the go to guy. Get a good backup. Woll is still cheap next year and then JT's money comes off the books when Woll needs his next deal.

11.) 01 Apr 2024 20:33:52
Tags, looks like we put out the same answer at almost exactly the same time. lol.

12.) 01 Apr 2024 22:04:21
Pretty funny, lol.



26 Mar 2024 11:19:36
I made a prop for SJ's 1st round pick via Pittsburgh.
If the pick falls outside the top 10 (possibly 11th or 12th), then it belongs to SJ.

What would it take from the Leafs to acquire that pick?
I think there would be a couple od really good RHD prospects still available at the point. Either Yakemchuk or Parekh.


1.) 26 Mar 2024 14:11:15
If it turns out to be an 11th/ 12th pick, I would think you are looking at something like Cowan and a 1st. Not a move I think the Leafs should make. They have a chance at a couple big RHD's in the draft where they are already. Plus, how long does it take for a 11th/ 12th overall to become a really good NHLer? 3 years minimum. imo Can the Leafs wait that long?

2.) 26 Mar 2024 14:58:33
If that's what it takes then I say forget it. I didn't think it would take that much.
I guess we'll go for either Mews, Elick or Emery.

3.) 26 Mar 2024 16:24:33
Tags. I really think it matters how scouts now view Cowan. Do they think he is now a top 15 comparable pick? If so, then that changes things. If they see him as a 15-20 and the Leafs picking say 25th overall. Then to get to 11/ 12, I could see having to give up a 18th and 25th overall for instance to move up to 11/ 12. Now that also matters how the 11/ 12 spots are viewed this draft. If they are considered weak this year, then that also changes value. imo.



14 Mar 2024 14:30:59
What do you guys think of targeting a trade for Buchnevich in the summer?
I've read they have him playing 2C, eventhough he's been a winger most of his NHL career. He grew up playing center though, so knows the position.
Do you think he could be our 2C moving forward?


1.) 14 Mar 2024 17:27:37
How are the blues doing this season btw he’s not a centre and most likely is too expensive.

2.) 14 Mar 2024 20:06:40
@Goat ya, I've never seen him playing center, but just found it interesting they were playing him as a 2C.
I wanted to know whether anyone has been watching St. Louis play this year and how Buchnevich looks as a 2C. If he looks good, then I think it could be something to explore.
He is still under contract for $5.8M next year and I believe his next contract would be around $7.5M. I think Leafs would have enough space to fit that in once JT's contract comes off the books.
Or else, I would like to look into Chandler Stephenson for our next 2C option.

3.) 14 Mar 2024 23:31:58
I can only give my opinion. He's not good as a centre. He's horrible on the draw and his down low coverage is not strong. He's best on the wing.




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13 Apr 2024 16:21:47
I'm thinking they can use Stephenson as 2C and moving Tavares down to 3C. Lines would work well for next year, but no room to re-sign Bertuzzi in this scenario.


Something like this, even works with Lindholm.

Leafs trade Kampf, Jarnkrok & Robertson for cap purposes and hooefully pick up some picks for the draft.




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13 Apr 2024 04:29:07
@LL I think you're right about Tanev, hopefully $4M tops ($3.5M would be ideal) . I hope you're not right about Zadorov, he's too expensive for what he brings.
Leafs can upgrade on 3C if they only re-sign Domi, no need to trade Marner. I do like Stephenson, but he might cost $5.5M+ IMO.




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12 Apr 2024 22:04:58
I know Clarky.
I just don't gave much trust in the 3L defensively as RLF is eluding too. If Marner and Nykander switched, then I would be better with it.
I think it's definitely something Tre needs to explore in the off season, either a 2C, like Lindholm and move Tavares down (dreaming about getting Lindholm for $5/ $5.5M on a show me contract since he's not doing well after the trade) . Or Leafs pick up an actual 3C who defends and has offense as well.




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12 Apr 2024 14:12:25
I still think you put your best two Dmen on the top pairing and go from there.

Rielly - McCabe
Edmundson - Liljegren
Benoit - Lyubushkin

On the forward group I really liked the Willy-JT-Marner line, they out shot Jersey 14-1 last night. Maybe Leafs should stack top 2 lines again and include Jarnkrok on the 3rd line.

Bert - Papi - Domi
Willy - JT - Marner
McMann - Holmberg - Jarnkrok
Knies - Kampf - Reaves
Dewar/ Robbie.




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11 Apr 2024 17:31:13
RLF if you think Middleton can play 2LD, then I'm in. I would, however, like to get a mid pick back if possible (we are giving Minny to young cost controlled RFA's) .
I like targeting Roy as well, he is high on my UFA list.





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20 Apr 2024 22:37:29
I am taking the more obvious bet as well, Matthews will have a STUD game. I'm also looking forward to seeing how Holmberg plays.
And from the backend, I'm thinkng McCabe has a good game.




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19 Apr 2024 15:58:22
100% agreed that Sammy starts.
I believe that Woll has a good future ahead of him, but he hasn't played enough this year. He hasn't really been that good after coming back from that high ankle sprain injury, which is a big injury for a goalie.

What do you guys think the chances of Murray making a surprise appearance?




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17 Apr 2024 14:59:55
These last few games are just about escaping healthy and hopefully Matthews getting #70.
Playoffs is going to be tough regardless who we were to play and I really didn't care who we matched up against.
Leafs have to bring it, and the Core needs to lead the way.
I still hate Boston more than any other team, so as you said LL, a chance to slay the dragon or slay our demons.





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16 Apr 2024 23:16:05
I wouldn't be shocked Clarky.
McMann-Tavares-Nylander line was playing well during Marner's injury.
Why didn't Keefe just leave the line as is and just play Marner on the 3rd line?
It would have seemed like the logical change without disrupting the other lines.
IMO Marner needs to be coddled . simple as that.
I just think plating Marner with Kampf would not go over well with Mitch.




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16 Apr 2024 14:21:43
Doubt Marner goes for this.