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06 May 2024 13:08:13
I know you guys will shut this down but it answers 2 most important needs on the roster.

To Cal
To Leafs
Cap hit works for both teams
No retention.
U save $350 000
Not much but u got #1 goalie and #1 right shot d.
To Nash
To Tor
Sarros, evangelista, lauzon
Savings of $3mil
I do believe marner would wave no move clause for both these teams seeing as his buddies playing on both teams. One u don't have cap relief but u got 2 legit positions covered. The other u get solid return and fill some needs with cap relief to add more.


1.) 06 May 2024 13:28:11
I think you’re asking too much. Not gonna get Andersson and Markstrom for 1 year left of Marner who doesn’t waive to go there anyway. Tor would have to add a high draft pick or prospect to Nsh deal for them to give up that much.

2.) 06 May 2024 21:54:09

He is top 7 Scorers last 5 years and he hasn't peaked yet ok he had bad playoff but in the past his playoff numbers are good.



01 Mar 2024 11:49:47
To Tor Andersson (25% ret)
To Calgary Timmons, Robertson, 3rd, 5th Nemeila.


1.) 01 Mar 2024 12:22:45
No way Flames take that. Change the 3rd to a 1st and they still may say no.

2.) 01 Mar 2024 12:51:42
Andersson is a top pair RD that plays 24 mins a night, plays in all situations, plays a hard game, puts up points, is only 27 and signed for 2 more seasons on a great contract.

I think you are more looking at Cowan, Liljegren and a 1st at minimum with no retention.

3.) 01 Mar 2024 14:04:02
Andersson not worth a first so get off that. Hanifin yes. Adding Nem balances it out for sure.

4.) 01 Mar 2024 15:41:34
Legend. Lol
Be my guest and throw that trade out to Calgary and tell them Andersson isn't worth a 1st, especially a late 1st.

5.) 01 Mar 2024 16:09:13
Andersen is Calgary's best defenseman, with hannifin just behind. Not sure where you get that he's not worth a 1st in the low to mid 20's.

6.) 01 Mar 2024 17:47:44
Anderson is better than Hanifan. He’s worth a 1st, plus plus.

7.) 02 Mar 2024 02:49:57
Anderson is not only better than Hanifin but he is a RHD, a position of need for the Leafs while Hanifin is a LHD a poison Leafs have reasonably well covered at the moment.

I do not see how that offer would interest the Flames at all!



29 Feb 2024 17:14:29
To Tor Larson
To Sea Robertson, Timmons 3rd pick

To Tor Stecher
To Ari jarnkrok, lagesson

Money works and you got your 2 R dmen.
No overpay.


1.) 29 Feb 2024 17:57:52
I don't think is getting Larsson.
Not a fan of going after Stetcher and I would say Leafs are overpaying.

2.) 29 Feb 2024 18:07:36
Seattle will not trade Larsson for a 3rd.

3.) 29 Feb 2024 19:20:52
But you r giving them a young right shot d man and a young nhl ready goal scorer. With that a 3rd will get him.

4.) 29 Feb 2024 20:44:06
Legend. Timmins is a 25 year old D-man who has not been able to take a regular role in the NHL and has an injury history. He doesn't have much value. So Robertson and a 3rd doesn't get a top 4 Dman with term. Tanev just got a 2nd, a really good 20 year old prospect and a possible 3rd and he's older than Larsson and a pending UFA.
I'd like to get Larsson, just don't think this does it.

5.) 29 Feb 2024 21:09:33
You’re offering a 3rd, and oft injured AHL D, and Robertson for a top 4 RHD with a reasonable cap hit. They won’t do it.

6.) 01 Mar 2024 00:23:17
Not even close to being enough to entice Ron Francis to trade Larsson

2024 - 1st
2024 - 3rd
Topi Niemala
One of Voit, Hirvonen, Lisowsky, Grebyonkin.



29 Feb 2024 17:01:15
To Tor Pesce 50% retained

To Car 3rd pick Robertson, Timmons


1.) 29 Feb 2024 17:59:02
Man, I dont think this is even close to getting Pesce with retention.

2.) 29 Feb 2024 18:08:07
I'd love that deal.

3.) 29 Feb 2024 21:09:50
Not even close.

4.) 01 Mar 2024 00:24:10
Not even close to motivating the Hurricanes to trade Pesce!

5.) 01 Mar 2024 12:41:49
I think Pesce would require a 1st, Nimiela and maybe more. I don't like tge idea of mortgaging the future (Nimiela) for a cup run.



04 Feb 2024 19:21:02
To Arz Brodie, Domi, Robertson, lagesson, 5th and 7th rd.
To Tor Keller, Bjustad, Durzi
After watching the chemistry Matthews and Keller had it's a no brainer. He's tired of being in Arizona. You replace Domi with bjustad 3c and Durzi replaces Brodie. Keefe isn't going to use Robertson as much as he should which is unfortunate so give him a chance somewhere else. Oh ya fire keefe get berube. Only trade that needs to happen. Goalies are fine once Woll returns. If Samsonov keeps playing like he has u don't need a goalie u r fine with him Woll and Jones. Money works coming in and going out.


1.) 04 Feb 2024 20:41:29
Nylander for keller was the no brainer. now I can see Arizona just getting his best bud keifer bellows.

Bellows scored 50 Keller got most of the assists while Joey Anderson was there go getter dirt grinder and that was pure magic at us program.

Thought Keats had something up their sleeves once I learned they got bellows on marlies

Matthews centering those 2 yes please. Leaving marner with Tavares and Bertuzzi. But it’s not gonna happen now.

2.) 04 Feb 2024 21:00:10
I'm not sure what the motivation for Arizona is here. Yotes took a pile of crap for Keller.

3.) 04 Feb 2024 21:21:06

4.) 04 Feb 2024 22:07:52
Yotes motivation is clearing salary cap space cause they are hurting with no new arena and take on expiring contracts in Brodie and Domi and get a good player in Robertson lagesson is a throw in to make money work better.

5.) 04 Feb 2024 22:08:51
Instead of lagessonnthrow in a better man prospect like Niemala.

6.) 05 Feb 2024 02:12:42
Back from hiatus mph? Lol.

7.) 05 Feb 2024 12:33:39
Not sure why Arizona does this. They still have to reach the cap floor and Voracek and Little's LTIR end after this season.

8.) 05 Feb 2024 14:57:33
It fun to suggest moves but lets be honest. The ONLY chip Arizona will entertain is Mathew Niess for Keller but not straight up so fill in the blanks.

9.) 06 Feb 2024 00:25:21
Great targets but substantially light on the return from the Leafs.
Brodie is an expiring contract UFAu
Domi is an expiring contract UFA
Lagesson is currently an AHL player.
5th and 7th round picks are worthless 90% of the time.
Only Robertson has any value and to date that value is limited.




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24 Feb 2024 13:21:34
I believe you leave well enough alone. Wait till the summer and u resign Benoit, liljegren, Gregor, McMann, Robertson, Jones. Everyone else you let walk. You will have a lot of cap space to fill in holes. You take a run at UFAS to fill in the gaps left by bertuzzi, domi, Brodie, Samsonov, etc. lots of good ufas available this summer. With all the LTIR coming off the books as well the cap going up the leafs will have $24mil to spend. A lot of wiggle room to make good ufa signings. Don't sacrifice your only first round pick for a rental or your prospects.
Only move if make is seeing if someone is willing to take reaves off your hands throw in a sweetener like a 5th or 6th rd pic to go with him. If not bury him in the all like you did Clifford and get that little cap relief by doing it. You r not winning the cup this year so no reason to give up futures for a pipe dream.


1.) 25 Feb 2024 13:21:58
I do support using free agency as a means to add targeted upgrades without losing important assets.

Also picking up possible improvements in the KHL and SHL is an avenue to pursue.

Agree on Benoit, Liligren, McMann and Robertson but I don’t resign Gregor. He’s a strong skater with some grit but there’s a reason SJS didn’t qualify him and now we know it.

If you’re not resigning Samsonov or Bert why not get something back at TDL?

Having said that Bert finally showed something last night! Stick on the ice and two hands on the stick he was ready to bang home rebounds or passes.
He scored 3 from a total of 5 feet. This is what the Leafs have been expecting and wanting. It finally happened 70% into the season!

2.) 25 Feb 2024 13:36:40
Legend. For the most part I agree, but see no reason why they can't make moves now for guys with term or for guys that won't cost much. Not a ton of moves, but one or two that could help the team if the price is right I'm good with.



17 Jan 2024 11:39:06
All you need is a good coaching staff for this team plain as day.
Berube (coach) proven winner
Gerard Gallant (coach) Jack Adams winner
Joe Quenvillle (coach) proven winner
List goes on
Need structure not so much trades
Keefe , Boucher out
Van Ryn stays bring in Berube won cup together in st.Louis
Hire a proven pp/pk specialist as other assistant lots good ones out there.
You go and get Tanev. Whatever it takes resign him.
Talent is there just not be utilized properly with this coaching staff. No structure on this team look lost on the ice. Too much line shuffling and scrambling. Pathetic


1.) 17 Jan 2024 12:26:16
@Legend74 completely agree, Keefe needs to go, plain and simple.
I would love Quennville, but that's probably not going to happen.
I'm not to sure on Berube to be honest.
I would go after Gallant. He's proven to get result when first coming into a new situation.
I think Keefe has lost the room, plus he has no answers. His only go to is to run his stars to the ground by playing them 25+ minutes, so they are exhausted last minute of the games. And they will definitely burn out once playoffs come around.

2.) 17 Jan 2024 12:40:03
Coaching change I definitely agree with. Lots available as you mentioned.

3.) 17 Jan 2024 13:30:52
Gallant was always my choice.

4.) 17 Jan 2024 17:08:36
Has anyone considered thatcoaching change does nothing?

I'm all for firing Keef, but as currently constructed I don't think it suddenly makes them contenders.

5.) 18 Jan 2024 12:32:56
LL. They would probably get a coaching bump, but I don't expect it to turn them into a contender. It is more about a change of culture and the way to play. Starts with the coach, so let's start there.



16 Dec 2023 12:50:39
Go sign Berube to be on your coaching staff. Has one a Stanley cup knows how to inspire these over paid Cinderella's. If keefe keeps pulling his dumb ass moved you show him the door. Perfect replacement mid season. The last time berube was given the reigns he won the Stanley cup.


1.) 16 Dec 2023 20:10:29
I'd be happy with a Berube or Woodcroft signing.



04 Nov 2023 10:51:42
Keefe is the problem here not the players.
Only mistake treliving made here is extending him b4 season started. Hes clueless at putting lines together. He didn't even attempt one game with Willy at centre it's a joke. Tavares is a winger this point in his career. If not Willy then try Domi he's played that position b4. He loves to criticize all his players but he should really look in the mirror. He had Minten on the opening roster when he had no business being there. 19yrs old and no where near the nhl calibre ready player like a Bedard or Fantilli. Kids back at WHL. Tells u something about his lack of being able to evaluate players. Preseason is totally different then regular season guys may shine there cause most nights they r playing against minor leaguers. I still believe Robertson should be up. If not to help st least showcase the guy for a trade.


1.) 04 Nov 2023 12:54:04
I am not really a fan of Keefe. Whether he preaches it or not, he can't seem to get his players to buy into a pack mentality. So, that's on him. If he can't get them to buy in, then he should be going to management and saying these guys just don't have it in them or are not willing, so we need to make a move.

The rest I don't agree a lot with. Willy is a winger imo. Plays like one and is most effective on the wing. Tavares has looked like he has turned back the clock a bit. I can't imagine complaining about his play this year. Only complaint I really have on JT is he needs to learn from what Stamkos did in Tampa and get into more a scrappy style of play. I think Minten earned his spot. There was no harm in giving the kid a shot. Needed to see if what he did in pre-season could translate. 4 games helps his development and didn't really hurt the team. Robertson is right where he belongs imo. He needs to show he can be a point per game+ player in the AHL and stay healthy. He had 5 points in his first two games. He has slowed a bit with 4 in his last 6 and is still a -3 5on5. The guy has been injured so much there is no way to know what he really is because there are so few games to evaluate by.

2.) 04 Nov 2023 13:00:12
You lost me at Willy is a centre. I've seen that experiment enough over the years.

3.) 05 Nov 2023 00:08:55
I also think Keefe is part of the problem and probably needs to go.

But he’s not the only problem.

Nylander is definitely better placed on the wing because he doesn’t have strong D skills.

Tavares is quicker this year and still earns C-ice for me.

Also think giving Minten a shot made sense.

One big problem is total lack of scoring in bottom6.

McCabe being out has hurt.

You guys know how I feel about Bertuzzi; he still looks lost and ineffective.

I’d honestly try Domi in place of Jarnkrok and, of course, Klingberg needs to learn D and be better offensively.




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06 May 2024 12:40:17
Torts doesn’t like soft players
I believe Nashville is the trade target and marner would wave his no move clause.




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06 May 2024 12:39:09
Marner not going to Utah lol.




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02 Mar 2024 11:57:37
You are both way off. Hanifin signing in the US so forget him.




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02 Mar 2024 11:51:01
Right player to target just a big overpay even with retention.




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01 Mar 2024 14:04:02
Andersson not worth a first so get off that. Hanifin yes. Adding Nem balances it out for sure.





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