Leafs rumours 3

22 Dec 2025 18:45:23
Changing the identity:

To Van: Reilly, Robertson

To Tor: Kane (4.5M x2 ext), Sherwood (4.5M X 4 ext)

#2
To Utah: Matthews

To Tor: Durzi, Guenther, 1st, 2nd 2026

#3
To CBJ: Nylander

To Tor: Marchenko, Olivier, 2nd 2026

Knies JT Guenther
McMann Laughton Marchenko
Kane Roy Sherwood
Lorentz Quillan Olivier
Send Cowan down, keep Jarnkrok as a spare and send Maccelli, Domi packing

McCabe Stetcher
Durzi Tanev
Rifai OEL
Benoit.

22 Dec 2025 19:11:58
So are u trading the core to rebuild or retool? Looks like a hot mess Clarky like they r now.

22 Dec 2025 21:43:24
Retool my man. Make our roster look a little more like Bostons. I’d take this roster anyday over what we have now.

22 Dec 2025 21:45:17
I’d send Matthews to Columbus for that.

24 Dec 2025 00:41:00
If a center is not part of the return then Matthews should not be traded.

22 Dec 2025 16:40:45
Would you guys do,

Leafs: Matthews
Phi: leafs first, grebenkin, 2026 1st, Drysdale

Tor: nylander
Bos: leafs first, 2026 1st, minten.


This would allow us to start rebuilding right away, and fix some previous mistakes, let's us be bad now and not worry about giving away high picks.

Feels a little sell low on Matthews, considering it's only a first and Drysdale more than we have up for laughton.

22 Dec 2025 18:13:38
As much as I want to get rid of these two along with Mo. I don’t think the package for Matthews is enough. I wouldn’t want Drysdale on my D core either. I’d love to get Grebyenkin back too. I have no idea what Willys worth is anymore. I just want him off the team so bad. This guy is a cancer for laziness and terrible work ethic. We want to change the identity, it starts with Willy. Send him, his brother and his awful YouTube channel to the States.

22 Dec 2025 19:25:21
Lafrenierre, Schneider and a pic
For Nylander and his brother

Willy has to waive and I think he would to play for the Rangers. He could do live pod casts from down town NYC! 😞😞😞.

22 Dec 2025 19:51:01
Clarky, I agree, I just don't know what else of value we can get off of phili other than Drysdale.

23 Dec 2025 02:26:03
That Philly trade is terrible lay off the sauce dude.

23 Dec 2025 05:21:43
@ thekid

I need this explained to me, how is a 13.25 million 1st line center who is struggling this year 23 points in 30 games worth more than 2 firsts 1 likely high after this trade, a top 4 d that QBs pp 1 and a good 4th line banger.

24 Dec 2025 00:45:26
Are you trolling us?
Drysdale if brittle, fragile!
The always injured Drysdale was a very poor return for the Flyers in the Cutter Gauthier trade and a player the Leafs want to stay away from.

If Leafs trade Matthews they do not want picks.
They need young players between 19 - 23 years of age.
Not players who will not skate for the Leafs for another two or three years (if ever) .

24 Dec 2025 10:43:34
They want prospects who can play now plus picks. 1st rd picks to be exact.

22 Dec 2025 13:02:35
To Tor
1st 2026
1st 2027
Oleksiak
Eberle
Mcann
Obrien
To Sea
Matthews
Robertson

No tax state means he keeps more of his money for next 2 seasons. We take on expiring contracts other than Mcann. An 18yr old prospect and 2 first rd.

23 Dec 2025 13:41:06
I don't think they give up Oleksiak, McCann or Eberle. Maybe Schwartz for cap reasons. Also don't think Robertson needs to be included in this deal/

O'Brien
Catton
Schwartz
2027 1st
2028 conditional first if SEA makes second round of playoffs
________________

Nylander.

24 Dec 2025 10:47:18
Seattle needs scoring and a real face for the franchise. In comes Matthews. Secondly Robertson younger than all this guys I mentioned except obrien. They are all on expiring contracts except mcann who is always injured it seems. All of them on the other side of 30. Of course they trade them. Salary cap reasons. Go back to sleep.

22 Dec 2025 12:25:47
To Tor
Coronato
Andersson
1st, 3rd 2026
To Cal
Nylander
Carlo

Send Nylander back to where he was born. Resign Andersson. Coronato a right shot forward at 23. Draft picks.

22 Dec 2025 14:48:07
Horribly underwhelming return despite perceived issues with Nylander's compete level and attitude.

The return should be close to what VAN got for Hughes, although not quite as high because he's not a D man.

So, if you are trading Nylander, it's and admission that the season is beyond saving. If the season's beyond saving, having Andersson added for this year is pointless, so why trade for Andersson when you can just sign him after this year?

22 Dec 2025 16:20:03
Underwhelming? You get a 23year old r shot winger at $6.5mil til he’s 27. Andersson willing to resign with leafs gives u a 1a on right side. Plus a 1st and a third. Throwing in the towel cause u trade nylander who has given up on this team and been a total distraction in the dressing room. You r removing a core 4 piece and getting great value plus cap space cause he’s $5mil cheaper. Carlo hasn’t been a great fit but is still a good dman. Calgary gets someone to at least fill in for Anderson at a cheaper aav for this year and next.

23 Dec 2025 13:45:35
While the Flames do need scoring help, they're already committed to getting that skill by getting younger at the same time. I don't think they part with their 1st this year.

And I don't think trading for Andersson makes sense if you can just sign him in the offseason. Nylander would be our hypothetical best trade chip, why insist on using him to acquire something you don't immediately need and can just get for free in the summer?

I also think Carlo as a trade chip on his own could fetch us something decent, so no need to include him in any major deal.

24 Dec 2025 10:51:04
Do u hear yourself. Leafs don’t need a 1a right shot dman? Lol we need exactly that plus 1st rd pick plus a young right winger. If u wait till FA you will be in a bidding war with half the nhl to get his services. Like I said go back to sleep.

22 Dec 2025 07:05:01
Toronto needs a major shake up ,

Toronto trades Nylander

To

Washington for Allicysev Proteas, Ilya Protas, Spencer Smallman


Toronto trades Domi, Marcelli, Myers

To

San Jose for 4th, 5th, 6th

Toronto trades Matthews and Robertson

To

Utah for Logan Cooley, Nick Schmaltz, 1st, 2nd , and a prospect

22 Dec 2025 12:11:26
Utah not giving up Cooley u can forget that. Guenther and Crouse and a 1st and a 2nd is more like it. I would make that trade in a heart beat.

22 Dec 2025 12:15:38
Nylander brings u more than that. 1st for sure.

22 Dec 2025 13:17:26
I am going to assume you mean the brothers in Washington. Why Smallman? He's a 29 year old career minor leaguer and doesn't save any cap for Wash. Interesting proposal if I have this correct. Except Caps can't fit this into the cap. PLD should be back well before the end of season.
Can't see why SJ does it.
Utah signed Cooley to an 8 year $10M per contract extension starting next season. Maybe Schmaltz, Simashev, Castagna, 2026 1st.

22 Dec 2025 16:24:37
RLF I agree with everything you r saying but the Utah package. Matthews is a 1 centre. Utah will have to give up more than that like I said not Cooley but guenther, peterka has to come back plus another nhl ready player which I want Crouse not scmaltz. Then your 1st and 2nd u send Robertson with Matthews.

22 Dec 2025 16:31:12
I think nylander would wave to go to Washington play under Carbery again. But a 1st rd pick needs to come back.

22 Dec 2025 02:42:39
Who says no top 3 trade candidates for nylander

1:
Ana: 1st 2026 mintyukov McQueen
2:
Sjs: 1st 2026 Musty wetsch
3:
Chi: 1st 2026 Moore rinzel spellecy

No immediate help coming in really but all solid young players

22 Dec 2025 12:44:46
1. Anaheim says no. I think Minty is close to untouchable.
2. San Jose might say yes depending on which 1st you're referring to and does it have any protection if it is SJ's.
3. That's tough. Very close imo. But again, which first and is it protected at all.

22 Dec 2025 00:16:58
MIN
Roy

TOR
2027 1st

Minny needs another centre after trading for Hughes and it seems like more buyers than sellers at the TDL

22 Dec 2025 11:55:21
You can honestly believe that Roy gets a first round draft pick? Third round pick likely. And why trade Roy? Domi, Maccelli, Benoit, Jarnkok, Robertson, McMann, Myers…. take your pick. I’d trade everyone of them before Roy.

22 Dec 2025 12:06:08
Laughton got a first and a prospect. Roy gets you a 1st as a solid third line center. If his play keeps getting better easily a 1st. Looks better on Trev considering he came from the Mitch trade snagging a first.

22 Dec 2025 12:46:50
If you're talking at the TDL, I think this is possible. Of course I would rather keep Roy (and McMann) .

22 Dec 2025 14:49:27
Considering what Laughton got last year, it is possible that Roy gets a 1st, especially since MIN does need depth at centre.

22 Dec 2025 16:28:16
Ckps1976. Agree on keeping him and getting rid of all the others (like McMann) but trade line he’s a 1st rd pick for sure for any contender needing centre depth.

21 Dec 2025 19:14:07
LA Kings
Matthews
Woll
Leafs
Byfield
Clarke
Carter George

Ducks
Nylander
Leafs
McTavish
Luneau
Colangelo

Canucks
Rielly
Quillan
Leafs
2nd 2026
2nd 2028

Tank for McKenna

21 Dec 2025 22:48:13
I don’t mined the trades. I think Leafs need to get one 1st round pick in either a Mathews or Nylander trade if not one in each.

22 Dec 2025 04:37:38
Your package for Matthews and woll is a complete joke.

22 Dec 2025 04:45:00
Rielly is worth a 1st if nothing rise coming back but picks.

22 Dec 2025 11:05:08
@blowhard the way Reilly plays he’s not worth a 1st not saying a team won’t pay that but I don’t think many teams would pay that much especially because he makes so much for so much longer.

22 Dec 2025 12:08:13
Teams looking for an offensive dman will definitely pay a first. Might have to retain on him a bit like a 1-1.5m but that would guarantee a first.

22 Dec 2025 14:52:17
The Kings are going to lose Kopitar after this season, and lost Danault recently. They're not giving up Byfield to add Matthews. It still leaves a major hole in their lineup.

They're also going to lose Doughty in the next year or two, so giving up a young RHD makes no sense for them.

I do believe LA is the team that would be most interested in Matthews, but they'd be interested because they're looking to contend in the next year or two, and therefore aren't going to be giving up valuable roster players.

You'll get a decent haul of picks and prospects, especially if you retain salary for Matthews.

21 Dec 2025 19:37:36
This trade is assuming Matthews still holds good value(Hughes like).
And he waives of course

SJ
Matthews $13.25M

Tor
Gaudette $2M(for cap reasons)
Misa ELC
Musty ELC
Chernyshov ELC
Wetsch unsigned.
2026 1st (EDM)

21 Dec 2025 20:43:47
I could see Matthews waiving for San Jose
Hang out with the Marleaus
This trade would require the moron Tredeadthing to do something
Which I don’t believe he is capable of.

22 Dec 2025 04:44:02
That’s more like it RLF.

22 Dec 2025 11:58:19
The way things are in Toronto I could see all of their players with NTC waiving just to get out of town. Tavares excluded. If you’re gonna move Matthews now the time. Not necessarily saying that I would…. But he may waive at this point.

21 Dec 2025 19:03:08
Ok I want it over how bout

Matthews to LA accompanied by N Robertson and to get it done possibly E Cowan.

LA sends Q Byfield B Clarke L Greenetree.

Then

Willy Nylander waives as well as OEL to go to a big problem rising in Anaheim for

Sennecke and Helleson

LA is a shake up like TOR and Leafs Ducks is getting some experience (Ducks) and talent, for rising talent (Leafs). Whatcha think?

21 Dec 2025 20:46:13
Like both of them
I think Matthews and Nicky Bobby is plenty fir the LA package

I can see Willy loving it in Duckville
His kind of place.

21 Dec 2025 22:50:21
I think we OEL though.

21 Dec 2025 11:29:52
To Tor
Guenther
Crouse
1st, 2nd 3rd 2026
To Utah
Matthews
Roberston

To Tor
Rinzel
Greene
1st ,2nd 2026
To Chi
Nylander
Maccelli(75% retained)

To Tor
1st rd and 2nd 2027
Oleksiak
Eberle
Nelson, Ty
To Sea
Rielly ($1.5mil Ret)
Mcmann
Laughton

To Tor
Nadeau
1st 2028
To Car
Tavares (if he waves)

Get rid of your core 4. Stock the shelves with picks, prospects and some roster players on expiring contracts. Start from scratch through the draft and FA in 2026 and for years to come. You get rid of GM and coaching staff as well cause you don't want Trev guiding this. You promote Pridham or you go get Hunter. Bring in a real coaching staff cause they r just as much to blame for this as the players it's a combined mess. Tavares will wave to go to a legitimate contender. If not he stays and mentors young guys coming in.

21 Dec 2025 12:57:14
Dream on blowhard.

22 Dec 2025 02:28:04
I do t believe they r blowing it up. It will be the coach going bye bye and the GM. But even a dumb ass like Trev won’t let these guys go unless the offer starts with a 1st rd pick. U guys are delusional if u think he’s going to settle for prospects only.

22 Dec 2025 04:41:45
I think you are dreaming thinking u r not getting 1st rd picks for these guys. Guys of way lesser value have gotten 1st rd pics.