Leafs rumours 3

09 Jul 2025 03:50:42
Leafs trade Stolarz & Kämpf

Edmonton Ryan Nugent Hopkins

This has a risk as if WOLL suffered a serious injury it could be a problem but I'm willing to take that risk. The Oilers are in desperate need of a top NHL goalie so Edmonton might do this. Also the Leafs will know now if Stolarz will extend or he is walking the Leafs to free agency .

There is no way I allow Stolarz to get to free agency if Toronto could extend Stolarz then I switch the trade and move Woll instead of Stolarz. Edmonton would do the deal for either goalie they might actually prefer Woll as his cap hit will be much less that Stolarz once he is extended

09 Jul 2025 09:52:10
Both Stolarz and Woll have had injury issues. With no one of note at the 3 spot I wouldn't move either one.

09 Jul 2025 12:42:49
They r not trading STOLARZ or Woll. If anyone it will be hildeby. They have Akhtyamov as an up and coming replacement for woll or if they can’t extend STOLARZ.

09 Jul 2025 13:28:04
As long as Picard or Skinner is coming back in the deal.
RNH wouldn’t be my target though.

09 Jul 2025 14:39:17
@Blowhard you couldn't give Hildeby away.

09 Jul 2025 15:18:06
Again, we weaken where we have a massive strength (Two good and fairly cheap goalies) in order to upgrade what? A 3C or 50 point winger that plays a relatively soft game.

09 Jul 2025 20:24:20
Woll should go 100 percent.

10 Jul 2025 14:19:29
They r not trading goalies get it out of your heads.

09 Jul 2025 03:18:37
Try bringing back a familiar face:

To Tor: Bunting 4.5M X 1

To Nash: Robertson (signed 1.25M X 2), Jarnkrok (2.1M), middle range draft pick?

Knies Matthews Maccelli
Bunting JT Nylander
McMann Roy Domi
Lorentz Laughton Pezzetta/ Patches.

09 Jul 2025 12:43:34
Not interest in bringing back bunting. Rather go after Hyman if u r bringing back any former leaf.

09 Jul 2025 00:48:11
I recently suggested that the Leafs might consider trading one of their starting netminders for a young right wing to fill one of the gaping holes on the right side of the lineup.
I got roasted for my proposal.
I had to chuckle as I stole the idea from not one but two regular Leaf pundits.
Personally for the right return I still feel it is a good idea.
Leafs can ill afford the luxury of two starting goaltenders when they currently host a lineup that looks like it will struggle to even make the playoffs.

But .

I have another off the woll (pun intended) proposal.
I acknowledge that this suggestion hinges on players agreeing to waive their NTCs.

To Penguins: Nylander ($11.5), Reilly ($7.5), Robertson (RFA), Kampf ($2.4 Leafs retain $.4) Total - $21.00

To Leafs: Karlsson ($10), Rust ($5.125), Rakell ($5) plus $.4 retention = $20.525

Knies - Matthews - Rakell
Maccelli - Tavares - Rust
McMann/Cowan - Roy - Sam O'Reilly OR Matt Savoie (added in trade for a goaltender)
Lorentz - Laughton - Leason/Kunin/Kovalenko

McCabe - Karlsson
OEL - Tanev
Benoit - Carlo

This should cause a "19th Nervous Breakdown"

Disposal of Domi, Jarnkrok, Reaves (waived) in progress.

Caution!
Armchair GM's at work,

09 Jul 2025 11:53:25
I wouldn't do this one.
As for the Leafs not being able to afford the luxury of two starting goalies - combined they cost $6.1M. Even if Stolarz gets $5M on an extension, that's $8.6M for two goalies which is still cheap.

09 Jul 2025 13:31:35
RLF
I wasn’t talking about the financial cost of Stolarz and Woll.
I thought that was obvious by their salaries.
I was talking about the Leafs barely being a playoff team as they stand at the moment.
They need to trade from a position of strength to ice a credible hockey club.
Two starting goaltenders is redundant if Picard is coming back in the deal.

09 Jul 2025 15:10:22
WB49
Fair enough, but money matters in an evaluation and who might get traded and why.
Regardless, two very good goalies are often needed. We don't make it to 7 games against Florida if our backup was a "backup" instead of Woll. We also wouldn't have won the division without two very good goalies. If they were making a ton of money each, I would agree with you, but the money is a big factor on why I wouldn't trade either unless the return is huge. If Anaheim wants to give the Leafs MacTavish for Woll, sure. Goalies in general though don't often get a huge return, so why weaken our position of strength to slightly upgrade a forward position? To me, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

08 Jul 2025 13:37:26
Sam Colangelo hasn't signed yet in Anaheim. This is the guy the Leafs should be after imo. I've mentioned him before. The one thing I will add about him is a really good one-timer as well. He would give the Leafs a one-time option form the left side on top of Matthews from the right side on the 2nd PP. Having Luneau, probably makes Moore expendable as well.

Ana
Kampf $2.4M
Robertson RFA
2026 2nd

Tor
Colangelo RFA
Moore $.925(waiver exempt)

08 Jul 2025 14:29:27
The one issue here is that the Leafs are looking for a puck moving D and forward playmaker to setup Matthews and not another sniper needing a playmaker of his own.

08 Jul 2025 15:29:49
Colangelo is a pretty decent playmaker as well and I think Leafs acquired Maccelli for the playmaker position.
Moore is a puck moving right shot D.

08 Jul 2025 17:12:33
Sounds like a great deal. Leafs pick up 2 young guys and get rid of Kampf (who is rumoured on the trade block) and gives Robertson a new lease on life (don't think he really wants to be here) . Plus we would save some cap space to boot.
Colangelo sounds like a good target. He could probably score like Robertson, has more size and is RH'd (something Leafs don't have much of) . Also nice to pick up another young RHD prospect.
@Fallbackguy Robertson & Kampf probably don't help you get a top 6 forward or a RH puck moving D. If Leafs really want those targets, they will probably have to include Cowan and/ or Danford, plus draft picks. This trade has nothing to do with the other.

09 Jul 2025 00:09:02
Don’t Leafs need a 1st line RW, a 3rd line RW and a 4th line RW.
Personally I would prefer to see Treliving focus on filling the existing holes in the lineup!

09 Jul 2025 11:56:26
WB49. Leafs would still have tons of cap room after this and those players traded, won't get a top line RW. Colangelo could easily be a 3RW.

08 Jul 2025 12:42:46
Going for someone a little different and yes he is 35.
To Tor: Anders Lee 7M (50% retained) to 3.5M

To NYI: Robertson (signed 1.25M X 2), Tinus Luc Koblar, Hildeby, 3rd rd pick 2026.

Sign Patches 1.5M X 1

Knies Matthews Domi/ Maccelli
Lee JT Nylander
McMann Roy Domi/ Maccelli
Lorentz Laughton Pezzetta/ Patches.

08 Jul 2025 15:32:11
I like Anders Lee. But if they are looking for more of a power forward type, I would prefer an under 30 player as these guys can fall off the cliff as they age. Exceptions exist for sure, but it's not the norm when it comes to power forwards.

09 Jul 2025 00:15:44
Anders Lee is a left winger while Leafs desperately need a 1st line RW, a 3rd line RW and a 4th line RW.
Acquiring a 35 year old left winger would not fill any of Leafs needs?

I would add that your proposal sends a fairly hefty package to the Islanders for a player Leafs don’t really have a roster spot for.
Maccelli (a left winger) will/ should play LW on the 2nd line feeding two shooter in Tavares and Nylander.
Leafs would be much better off focusing on obtaining Bryan Rust or Rickard Rakell from the Pens to fill the 1st line, RW slot left by the departure of Marner.

07 Jul 2025 18:57:30
3 way trade with retained salary between NJD, TOR and SJS

TOR gets: Hamilton (via SJS with 50% retained) and assumes the Couture contact and puts on LTIR

SJS gets: Kampf and 6th round pick from TOR

NJD gets: Hildeby, Robertson, and a 2nd rounder from TOR and a 7th from SJS


Cash wise, SJS is actually slightly ahead of the game.

Cap wise, NJD gets big cap relief to sign other players and the Leafs take a $2.1 net hit but can the move some other assets out

07 Jul 2025 19:56:34
🤣😂🤣🤣.

07 Jul 2025 23:30:29
Woll and keep the second rounder.

06 Jul 2025 21:17:56
McMann Cowan OEL to caps
Tom Wilson to Leafs.

06 Jul 2025 21:55:30
Overpayment.

07 Jul 2025 01:07:38
At one time I would be all over this.
But not any more.
As valuable as Tom Wilson is, he is also now 31 years of age whereas Cowan is 20.
Leafs already have a number of 30+ players.
I think it would be wise to keep what little youth we have left.

07 Jul 2025 22:33:24
Agreed too. But no other way to get a good player. widow is running out. now or never.

06 Jul 2025 20:28:42
Time to upgrade young defence and add upside
To SJS Robertson
To Toronto - Thompson
He's a 6'1 RH puck moving d who suddenly finds himself behind a whack of retreads, and a couple of other young guys.
Toronto needs a guy who can move the puck and play pp.2

06 Jul 2025 21:55:57
Do it!

07 Jul 2025 01:08:18
I’m all for acquiring more youth!

07 Jul 2025 14:13:46
If SJ is willing, why not. I don't see a future here for Robertson. Leafs could use a puck mover who can produce. Thompson needs to work on his defensive play, but seems like a good trade for both sides to me.

06 Jul 2025 20:21:42
Tor need one Sam, and that Sam is ex leafs Carrick, good face-off man 4th line center, hard nose player.

Nyr get Mcmann.

Toronto 4th line Lorentz Carrick Pezzetta

Then trade Kampf 6-7round pick. Trade Jarnkrok, some late round pick.

06 Jul 2025 21:35:34
Don’t need anymore 4th line players . Laughton is way better than Carrick.

07 Jul 2025 01:10:21
Why trade for Carrick when Leafs have Scott Laughton as our 4th line center and Nick Roy as our 3rd line center along with the redundant Kampf whom Treliving is doing his best to trade.

07 Jul 2025 07:32:08
Because Scott play third line LW.
Roy play third line center. Kampf and Jarnkrokk play next season somewhere but not Toronto.

Or signs Morgan Barron $2million aav 2years and he can play 4th line center.

07 Jul 2025 14:14:28
Leafs need McMann more than Carrick imo.

06 Jul 2025 19:54:05
To Tor
4th rd pick
To SJS
Kampf
To Tor
4th rd , 2nd rd
To Ana
Robertson, jarnkrok

Sign Roslovic 3yrs@$$3.2mil
Sign Kunin 3yrs@$1.8mil

07 Jul 2025 14:15:36
I know a lot in here want Roslovic, I don't think he is what Leaf management are looking for. Kunin brings alot of what Leafs already have.

07 Jul 2025 19:59:34
Younger guys is what we need not over 30’s who are broke.

06 Jul 2025 15:12:21
To Tor: Rust

To Pitts: Danford, Hildeby, Jarnkrok, 2028 1st rd pick

* resign Patches 1.5M X 1


Knies Matthews Rust
Maccelli JT Nylander
McMann Roy Domi
Lorentz Laughton Pezzetta
Patches.

06 Jul 2025 19:14:51
Who u think u trading for? Big overpay for a 34yr old.

06 Jul 2025 21:37:25
Throw in Domi and a second to get Rackell in the deal too.

07 Jul 2025 01:13:36
Two 1st round picks (Danford) and Hildeby for the 34 year old Rust.
Surely you jest?
I would hesitate to trade Danford alone for Rust let alone add Hildeby and a 1st.

I think I would also prefer Rickard Rakell to Rust if we are trading with the Pens and Dubas.

07 Jul 2025 02:19:01
Hildeby is a bum that Dubas’ team drafted. Maybe he was a high pick at one time but it isn’t working out. Jarnkrok is a cap dump and the 1st is three drafts away which brings its value down quite a bit, So ya surely I jest. We have 3 year window to win gentlemen before the rebuild starts so a 34 year old who scored the most goals in career so far doesn’t seem like he is slowing down. Look at these older players around us. 40 is the new 30 the way these guys are lasting now.

07 Jul 2025 20:00:41
Why do we need more mid 30 guys on contracts that won’t age well. Dumb is all I have to say.

07 Jul 2025 20:06:28
😂😂😂 40 is the new 30. Where? In the night clubs 🤣🤣🤣 cause not in sports.

07 Jul 2025 21:04:07
Blowhard name suits you well especially if clueless was taken. Perry at 40 was one of the most noticeable guys in playoffs especially for Edm. Marchand at 37 was the best player in playoffs on any team. Patches became one of our better depth players in playoffs. Rust is 34 and just had his most productive year. But according to blowhard he should be on the hard decline. JT 34 still putting up a point a game like he was when he was in his 20’s. No one respects “the old man strength” or “Dad strength “ anymore. Do I need to keep going blowhard? Mid 30 guys are the ones to get. They have experienced it all, they want it more because they know their career is near an end, plus they know what it takes with off ice training and proper diet. Kids in their 20’s are still learning all this.