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11 Dec 2023 07:43:18

LEAFS Steeves 3 rd round pick 2027 2 nd round pick

I know leafs need Tanev and I'm sure that gets done

But right now the third line isn't getting enough minutes

Gaudreau Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi. Tavares Nylander
Robertson Domi Knies
Gregor Kampf Jarnknok

Even this is not enough for what I'm trying to accomplish. I want three scoring lines with even minutes from all the lines.

Robertson and Domi seem fine on that line I just wonder if they might do well to upgrade Jarnknok

What do you guys do to get even minutes and danger from all three lines?

David 1 Mackin



11 Dec 2023 06:16:23
Columbus trade Gaureau 50 % retained

Tonronto Steeves 3 Rd round pick

It's a gamble is Johnny washed up or does a good team bring back his numbers

But this can't continue I feel Gaudreau has more heart than Laine

Which one of these players is worth a big gamble ? I'm sure Columbus want to cut the bait on both


David 1 Mackin



10 Dec 2023 22:54:08
Leafs trade Reaves

Vancouver trade Lafferty

Just another example how signing Reaves and then not having the balls to put him on waivers screws your hockey team


I like defencemen who are former first round picks that as a RFA will maximum make 3 million on a 3 year deal. That's Liljegren

David 1 Mackin

1.) 10 Dec 2023 23:08:14
Lol Mackin.



10 Dec 2023 18:42:10
Leafs trade Kampf
Arizona 6 th rounder


Standings are very tight this year Detroit or Toronto seem to be getting the third seed. Leafs are a top 5 injury away from disaster

If these guys get hurt Detroit passes Toronto. It's going to be a dogfight



If Detroit pass Toronto leafs are a 7 th or 8 seed

If leafs get 7 th or 8 th seed and lose in first round Leafs pick 16 th of 17th

So I'm not far off that they could be picking middle of round 1

Tampa Bay are a team that needs to make moves having played 29 games. If they don't make a move their season could be over by Feb 1. Ottawa are 9 points behind Tampa with Ottawa having 7 games in hand

David 1 Mackin

1.) 10 Dec 2023 20:52:00
With the injury that Larkin sustained against Ottawa yesterday I doubt the Wings will do much going forward. If Larkin is out long term they are done.



09 Dec 2023 08:41:44


your trade is worse than that one by a lot.

You have no hope in resigning Hanifin he will command way too much money. So your trading three future strong pieces Knies Liljegren and possibly a top 15 overall first round draft pick.

All your trades are the same mortgage the future with little hope in winning a cup today. And if you do win a cup next year your SCREXED

The leafs team has too many holes I think it's the worst version of the leafs in the last 4 years.

If I'm leafs I start getting the second wave of Stars coming through the system now


In 2 or 3 seasons these guys are really helping the big three Matthews Nylander Marner Reilly

David 1 Mackin

1.) 09 Dec 2023 08:57:42
Leafs life 2024 first may turn into top 15 pick and better than Knies. Hanifin wont resign Toronto. He wants more than Reilly.

2.) 09 Dec 2023 09:38:53
Water Buffalo 49

I agree with you on Liljegren and what is his next contract 2x2 or 3 million by 4 years

Then compare Niemela and Liljegren AHL numbers

Niemela is much better he is with Leafs
next season in the 6 th defender role

Hanifin will want at least 8x7 or 8x8

I prefer Nylander @10 million than Hanifin @8.

3.) 09 Dec 2023 14:45:18
Lol like anything mackin says holds any value.

4.) 09 Dec 2023 14:47:42
Lol mackin.

5.) 09 Dec 2023 15:59:12
Wow. JWM is feeling it. Calling out two posters at a time. But then he gives WB49 some love because he feels they are more aligned on their thinking and player assessment.

Busy day for the weathermackin.

6.) 09 Dec 2023 18:43:22
How will a first be a top 15 pick? Missing the playoffs? Lol.

7.) 10 Dec 2023 00:33:52

Your attempts at sarcasm are as weak as a lot of your recent trade proposals.
Stick to hockey my fellow Leaf fan!

8.) 10 Dec 2023 01:54:06
WB49. LOL. This coming from a guy who constantly insults posters proposals and at times their hockey knowledge and now wants to give advice on props and how to post.
Nothing I posted wasn't true is the funny thing. JWM called out MPH and LL and then said he agrees with you. Which is what I wrote. It's always the guys like you that insult people alot that say "stick to hockey" when people say something about them.
Mackin knew when he started calling people out he was going to get it back and he doesn't whine about it. I respect that.




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05 Dec 2023 16:56:05
Everybody wants to win now. This team could pull it off with Tenev trade soon then add ing more depth pieces at deadline

But if you hold your top prospects and I'm including Robertson Knies and Liljegren. This team is stronger next year and get stronger as the young talent get better each year.

I'm very unsure if Leafs want Domi or Bertuzzi back. Maybe you resign Domi but not more than three million on max 3 year deal I prefer 2 years with him. Bertuzzi is ok but at 6 million I want much more offence than he brings but at playoff time he could do well jury out on Tyler .

Leafs are just a lot better next year and your second waive of talent below will bring more than 1 Cup . Four good cheap players that outperform their contracts are already here but 4 more are coming next season. That's basically 8 ELC contracts a few will make a little more but Liljegren next contact may be short 2 years but it will be team friendly

Tavaras next contract will be Leaf friendly. 4 to 6 million depending on how many years Tavaras wants


David 1 Mackin

1.) 05 Dec 2023 17:48:04
You have a lot more faith in Hildebeast, Topi, Lilly, and Robertson than I do.

Although Minten and Cowen look good, it's still unknown.

2.) 05 Dec 2023 19:27:23
Tavares next deal better be closer to 3 or else let him walk the leafs have found a few prospects who have done well in junior but it’s not the nhl if you think you can just throw in some young guys and it’s gonna work you will be disappointed I mean liljgren took 3-4 years to make the jump Robertson took a few years although injuries played a part I don’t see any leafs prospects being nhl ready next year.

3.) 05 Dec 2023 19:56:40
@Goat he won't be getting 3 lol. He's still producing about 30 goals and 80pts. He can easily ask for 6+, even at his age.

4.) 05 Dec 2023 22:03:14
3 Goat? This guy is in great shape and hasn’t lost a step. If he signs for 6M it’s cause he is taking a hometown deal.



12 Nov 2023 21:25:00
Mph this is the trade you always try to make

Leafs trade Scott Neidermayer

New Jersey trade Tom Kurvers

Or leafs trade Hamilton seguin

Boston trade Phil Kessel

Just these trades that leave leafs totally exposed and they get C level talent back

David 1 Mackin

1.) 15 Nov 2023 22:34:42
@DM Kessel trade was bad, and even at the time most people didn't like it.

In hindsight, it looks even worse. What I would srgue though, is its extremely rare for both of those picks to turn into what they did.

2.) 16 Nov 2023 02:07:33
That Boston trade only happened cause Burke was too pig headed to just sign Phil. cause he still had his panties in a bunch after Kevin low offer sheeted Oronger wasn't it. so Burke in his wisdom over paid. never saw what others did from that blowhard Irishman.

3.) 16 Nov 2023 03:18:43
@Loxley He got a ring. That's basically it lol.

When you get a ring, no matter who you are, you get a lot of leeway.

Look at Lou. His decisions the last few years are just downright dumb. Still a GM though.

4.) 16 Nov 2023 04:33:52
@LL. not gonna argue semantics. but personally i think Murray did most of the work drafting and putting that team together. Burke had Scott Neidemayer dropped in his lap cause he wanted to play with his brother. and got Pronger from his then friend Kevin Lowe. all i ever saw Burke do in Toronto was overpay to get Phil here cause he refused to offer sheet him and he would throw stuff out like i'm gonna bring in Tavares. I'm gonna bring in Stamkos. he signed Liles for 4mil for 4 years. then there was the great signing of Mike Komiserek. and then i think he over hyped Phaneuf and put him on a pedastal that only set him up for failure

the only fun moment i remember was when he and Murray were at the draft talking players and Murray mention's Kadri and Burke says ni we're taking him. and looking at the face on Murray was priceless

I was and am not a Brian Burke Fan. lol.

5.) 16 Nov 2023 13:36:40
Never liked the Kessel trade or giving him as much money as they did. Burke liked his American players and overvalued Kessel and his abilities to be a leader and play driver. He was a complimentary winger that could score.

Let's be clear though on the "trades". The Leafs never traded Niedermeyer for Kurvers. They traded him for a pick that turned into Niedermeyer and if the Leafs hadn't of been so bad that year, Niedermeyer wouldn't have been the pick. Kurvers was a pretty good D-man. Had NJ chose Falloon (who went 2nd) or Lachance (who went 4th) instead of Niedermeyer at (3), this conversation doesn't exist.

Falloon or Lachance for Kurvers seems fine.

The same with the Kessel trade. If the Leafs were even close to meeting expectations when the trade was made it wouldn't have been Seguin (3) and Hamilton (9). If Boston had of taken Hall (1) or Gudbranson (3) doesn't look as bad. 2011 was a good top end draft. So Boston would have had to take Seimens (11), Murphy at (12) or Baertschi at (13) instead of Hamilton (9) to make it look better.

even if it was Gubranson, Hamilton for Kessel I don't think it seems as bad as the 2nd given up became nobody.

Kessel was a bad trade. Instead of offer sheeting, Burke said he offered exactly what the compensation of an offer sheet would have been. It was stupid. Kessel was not worth two 1sts and a 2nd and I would wager Boston would have taken less.

6.) 16 Nov 2023 16:51:18
Seguin (2) not (3). typo.

7.) 16 Nov 2023 20:21:43
@Loxley no argument from me, just pointing out that one ring carries players/ execs for decades.

Look at Cam Ward or Jordan Binnington. Lou is signing guys like Engvall for max term and he still has a job.

8.) 16 Nov 2023 20:36:11
@RLF. I thought the leafs had a chance to offer sheet Kessel and it would have cost them a 1st.2nd and a 3rd. but but didn't wanna screw another team over

My comment on niedermeyer was that it was not a great coup by burke signing him in Anaheim. it was ecwanted to play with his brother Rob. other teams gad no chance of getting him.

9.) 16 Nov 2023 21:43:55
@Loxley. As you know, compensation on an offer sheet is all based on the dollar value of the offer sheet. I could be wrong, but if Burke offer sheeted Kessel at the $5.5M (or whatever it was) that he signed him to after the trade, the compensation was 2 1sts and a 2nd. Iirc. Burke even said his offer reflects what an offer sheet at this price compensation would be. Could be wrong.

My Niedermayer point was more to the original poster.

10.) 17 Nov 2023 17:25:54
@RLF. maybe that is the issue. maybe people thought he could get Phil for less but gave what an offer sheet would have cost. either way i remember it as being an overpay for Phil based on Burke being stuborn.

11.) 21 Nov 2023 13:07:56
@Loxley. Yea, the stubborn part was offering the Bruins what the offer sheet compensation would have been when the Bruins would have likely taken much less IIRC.



07 Nov 2023 21:24:12
Nylander and Tavares didn't score either send them down with Robertson.

Leafs have 3 lines now and Domi is doing what he is supposed to hitting a little and setting up plays

Robertson Domi Jarnknok

The next thing is getting Bertuzzi going. He can only have 20 games and his friendship with Marchand has the team wondering about this guy.

David 1 Mackin

1.) 07 Nov 2023 22:41:34
Bertuzzi can't keep second line. Jarnkrok needs to be moved up.

2.) 07 Nov 2023 22:46:39

I didn't set the precedent for new guys to the team, you did. I am just following along.



23 Sep 2023 21:56:44
Some of the signing Treliving made are really just looking like rush signings that were not thought through

Leafs Domi Reaves Klngberg
Arizona Dumba

Leafs had Bobby McManm who is a big lad with more skill that Reaves. If you wanted a physical element in your lineup each night then I choose McMann over Reaves

Another roster spot that Is going to used by a one dimensional player is Klingberg
A power play specialist is a luxury the leafs don't need

They needed upgrade over McCabe forcing him down to a bottom pairing guy

I will never agree that Domi brings more to leafs than Holmberg or Robertson

All resources available this summer should have been spent to fix the 6 defencemen leafs will need

Right now leafs could have the worse defence in NHL.

They have no cap space and the three players that were signed are the 3 worse players on the Toronto roster

The only move Brad Treliving knocked out of the park was signing Bertuzzi

I leave all of the three listed above unprotected to start season

Keefe must be very concerned with his defence. Your hearing notices about klingberg coming from Keefe already

David 1 Mackin

1.) 23 Sep 2023 23:39:48
I don't think Klingberg was option 1, 2, 3 or even 4. I think he was probably a panic signing, when Tree realized no one else was coming. That's also why it's a one year deal.

Reaves is here for leadership more than anything, and he can be sent down if need be.

I'm not sure why you love Holmberg and Robertson so much lol. I like Holmberg as a bottom 6 guy to replace Kampf at some point, but that's about it.

Why would the Yotes ever agree to that lol.

2.) 24 Sep 2023 10:49:02
Before we judge the moves let’s see how it looks mcmann may still get a look but he’s hurt the thing that hurts the younger players is our depth in the bottom six I think tree is changing the culture here and the players he brought in shows that as much as you hate domi he’s gonna be effective in Toronto reaves is gonna be effective not with his play but how he’s gonna make the stars feel as in they know no one’s gonna run them.

3.) 25 Sep 2023 14:29:29
Sir Mackin,
I’d like to ask if you thought the Leafs got pushed around quite a bit the past few years in our small playoff runs? By Bos, TB and FLA over the past few years. It’s about time they are building this team for playoffs and not to get the most points in the regular season. They definitely missed out on adding to the top 4 D core. But hopefully they can add at TDL.



21 Sep 2023 05:43:31
Maybe the leafs did good on this trade

Leafs Easton Cowan

Washington Sandin

Cowan Minton Robertson Knies all look like top 6 forwards

I really hope Robertson has a great camp and leafs put him on top line where his goal scoring can be utilized to the maximum

Matthews and Marner are good defensively. So with Nic playing ALONGSIDE those two you're going to get the best from Nic Robertson Goalscoring.

Tavares and Knies are similar so maybe you split them on next two lines

Robertson Matthews Marner
Domi Tavares Bertuzzi
Knies Nylander Jarnknok
Reaves Kampf Lafferty

This gives you solid scoring from three lines. But Nic has to turn on the Jets at camp better than last year. I'm sure he is hungry

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09 Dec 2023 09:38:53
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I agree with you on Liljegren and what is his next contract 2x2 or 3 million by 4 years

Then compare Niemela and Liljegren AHL numbers

Niemela is much better he is with Leafs
next season in the 6 th defender role

Hanifin will want at least 8x7 or 8x8

I prefer Nylander @10 million than Hanifin @8.

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09 Dec 2023 08:57:42
Leafs life 2024 first may turn into top 15 pick and better than Knies. Hanifin wont resign Toronto. He wants more than Reilly.

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07 Dec 2023 06:47:11
McCabe only makes 2 million and is decent.

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05 Dec 2023 20:12:14
Because nylamder is part of the heart and soul of leafs

Look at it this way you start pulling things off a car eventually it won't run

These guys are your team

Matthews Marner Tavares Reilly Nylander.

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05 Dec 2023 15:53:07
Ckps 1976

If leafs keep all there main pieces now and just trade minor pieces for Tenev.
They head into free agency resign Brodie and Tenev then Zadorov in free agency. Are the Leafs better this year or next with the kids graduating to big club as they should?

Reilly Brodie
Zadorov Tanev
McCabe Liljegren
Timmins Liljegren


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