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18 Aug 2022 14:23:42
Anaheim Trades
2nd Round Pick 2023*

Toronto Trades
Muzzin

*Ducks choose at The Draft which one of the 3 Picks in the second round they move to The Leafs, as they have their own plus Boston's and Colorado's picks.



For The Leafs this is strictly a Cap Trade to free up enough space to tweek more for the top 6 at forward, and either resign Sandin or package him in a trade.

Ducks have a ton of Cap Space and adding Muzzin is really a plus to give them a solid Defenceman, this makes sense for Anaheim and still having 2 second round picks this isn't a huge sacrifice adding Muzzin.


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16 Aug 2022 12:02:54
Toronto Trades
Kerfoot
Simmonds
Hirvonen (SML)
Niemela (SML)
1st Round Pick 2024

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
LKarlsson (SHL)
4th Round Pick 2023

If The Canucks do in fact trade JTMiller, they will want a lot in a trade, this proposal does that and getting all this would be a huge step forward to there future.

The Leafs are rolling the dice on this one sending 2 top prospects plus a 1st Rounder, but getting JTMiller probably for only 1 season is still worth the gamble, LKarlsson like Pontus Holmberg are bubble players who will be NHLers this or next season.


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1.) 17 Aug 2022 20:39:51
A lot for a rental in Miller I would love him but we can’t afford him.


2.) 18 Aug 2022 02:36:53
From the Leafs perspective that’s a huge amount to offer for a one year rental and even then, I don’t think Vancouver would agree.


 

 

15 Aug 2022 12:10:09
Toronto Trades
Muzzin

Washington Trades
4th Round Pick 2023

With Backstrom and TWilson being on LTIR, fitting Muzzin's Contract on The Capitals won't be an issue, Muzzin would fit nicely on Washington's defence, and giving up a 4th round pick isn't a lot to give up to get him.

Leafs get much needed Cap Space that sets them up to first resign Sandin, then make that last move to improve LW on the top 2 lines, with Kerfoot, prospects and draft picks being part of a future trade.


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1.) 16 Aug 2022 01:55:27
Definitely would like to see Muzzin in a Washington Capitals uniform this coming season if he agreed to waive is NTC!
$5.6 million in cap savings would cover Leafs overage $ (1.4 million), sign Sandin ($2 - TBD), Trade Kerfoot ($3.5) to Arizona for Leafs 3rd round pick back, and have approximately $6.5 million in cap space to upgrade the 2nd line LW position.
Perfect.


 

 

10 Aug 2022 15:14:53
Anaheim Trades
2nd Round Pick 2023 (Colorado's Pick)

Toronto Trades
Muzzin

Leafs get much needed Cap Space.
Ducks get much need Vet Defenceman.


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1.) 10 Aug 2022 19:49:17
Muzzin has to waive is the first block and who replaces muzzin sandin probably is t ready and gio is too old leafs get worse here imo.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 20:00:18
Muzzin would really be missed in the playoffs, imo.


3.) 11 Aug 2022 16:33:46
I’d make the trade.

His declining performance and health concern are the main reasons.

I’d like to get a return for once on a soon-to-be UFA as well.

Freeing up his $5.6m does a lot for the Leafs and quite easily (IMO) gives us opportunity to replace his loss plus other opps.


4.) 11 Aug 2022 18:23:54
I definitely agree, he is on the decline and would give us some much needed cap space.


 

 

10 Aug 2022 12:22:34
Toronto Trades
Kerfoot
Simmonds
NRobertson (AHL)
Niemela (SML)
1st Round Pick 2024

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
4th Round Pick 2023

This is the type of proposal that I believe both Teams would look at.

Canucks take a step back for this season, but 3 steps forward for there future adding 2 Top Prospects and a 1st Rounder over a 4th Rounder.

Leafs need to shed some Salary plus add a LW for the top 6, JTMiller is the perfect fit, yes some future is sacrificed but as close as they are it's a no brainer to go for it, after this proposal what's left for the offseason is trading Muzzin for more Cap Space and resigning Sandin.


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1.) 10 Aug 2022 14:25:02
I think you remove Simmonds (can be buried in the AHL) and the 4th coming back and you're very close. Maybe they even throw in Schenn, with a pick added on our part. I would then suggest Holl to Chicago for 50% retention on Miller's contract.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 19:48:03
Here the argument i have about Miller why does Vancouver move him without a top 6 player coming back they are trying to win now this package is something that may work at the deadline and Vancouver is out of a playoff spot.


3.) 10 Aug 2022 20:03:26
Vancouver needs to clear cap space, so for that reason they may be interested. Also you could argue that Kerfoot is a top 6 forward. Not ideally, but you could argue it. Niemela is a solid prospect, but it does not help them win now.


4.) 12 Aug 2022 01:40:38
Can’t see Vancouver trading JT Miller (99 points) for a handful of
Leafs castoffs.


 

 

 

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11 Jul 2020 15:34:12
A Proposal that I don't see happening but if it did would either Team be even interested in doing it ?

Edmonton Traded
McDavid

Toronto Trades
Matthews
Kapanen
Dermott

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Pinballisback

1.) 11 Jul 2020 18:43:42
I was posting stuff like this last summer, the consensus was mcdavid and lucic for marner and Matthews was a no go from Edmonton.


2.) 11 Jul 2020 21:05:50
Lol randy not surprised you posted that stuff last summer.


3.) 12 Jul 2020 19:39:52
I don't think either team would do this.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 14:53:26
Not enough for McD.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 15:16:21
Colorado Trades
Barrie

Toronto Trades
Brown
Carrick
1st Round Pick 2019

Solves the Top RHanded Defense for the Leafs.
Gives Colorado 2 NHL Caliber Players plus a 1st Round Pick.

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Pinballisback

1.) 17 Aug 2018 16:08:28
You would need to add a better player than Brown for Colorado to accept the large downgrade from Barrie to Carrick.


 

 

 

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