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13 Jan 2025 02:56:32
To Toronto: Ryan McLeod ($2.1), Sam Lafferty ($2)
To Buffalo: Minten, 2025 - 2nd round pick, Domi ($3.75), Reaves ($1.35)
To Toronto: Justin Brazeau ($775,000)
To Boston: 2025 - 3rd round pick (San Jose)
Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - McLeod - Brazeau
Lorentz - Dewar/Kampf - Lafferty
Holmberg, Pacioretty
23 Dec 2024 01:04:55
Leafs need a right winger behind Marner and Nylander
All they currently have is the oft/currently injured Jarnkrok and Reaves.
To Leafs: Brock Boeser ($6.6), Vincent Desharnais ($2 (overpaid)) = $8.6
To Canucks: Morgan Reilly ($7.5), Robertson ($875,000) = $8.375
Knies - Matthews - Marner
Pacioretty - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Domi (distributor) - Boeser
Lorentz - Kampf - Dewar - Holmberg - Reaves
McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Timmins
Benoit - Desharnais
Still need a top 4, RHD but what team doesn't?
1.) 23 Dec 2024 13:05:18
Not a Boeser fan. A less talented, yet slightly more physical Nylander imo. Can only have maximum one of these guys on a team.
2.) 23 Dec 2024 17:23:26
Exactly what I would have said RLF. But in fairness to WB. Very fair offer for both sides IMO. But if there is anyway to snag JT Miller out if there is out a package together starting with Nylander. Let them make team Sweden over there again.
3.) 23 Dec 2024 21:18:38
Hmm I recall that trade being posted by someone?
But ckps doesn’t want to move rielly the Paul Coffey Bobby Orr clone….
Because apparently nobody else passes the puck and carries the play like Morgan.
10 Dec 2024 01:05:48
A trade that could never happen but I would like to see.
GrumpyStump's thoughts on Tippet brought on this brain wave.
This proposal should generate lots of vitriol.
To Leafs: Tippet ($6.2M), Frost ($2.1M) = $8.3M
To Flyers: Domi ($3.75), Kampf ($2.4M), Jarnkrok ($2.1M) = $8.25M
2026 - 1st round pick, 2025 - 3rd round pick (via San Jose), Robertson, Hildeby, Niemala
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Pacioretty/Cowan - Frost - Tippet
Lorentz - Minten - Holmberg/Dewar
Reaves
1.) 10 Dec 2024 13:06:34
Yikes!
2.) 10 Dec 2024 13:54:06
Flyers could definitely use some goaltending. That seems like a massive overpay for what the Leafs get in return.
03 Dec 2024 02:25:00
Would Richard Rakell be a good fit with the Leafs as their 3rd line RW?
With Jarnkrok likely out until the playoffs and Reaves skating 8:00 minutes per game Leafs have no one at right wingers behind Marner and Nylander.
Rakell: 31 years old, RW, $5M x 3 more years, Stats: 26 games, 10g, 5a, 15pts, +2 ( on a team where Crosby is -6, Malkin -12, Karlsson -11, Rust -13, Letang -14, Hayes -10, Acciari -12 and O'Connor -13)
To Pittsburg: Domi ($3.75 x 3 more years) Benning or Reaves ($1.25/$1.35)$ = $5M,
2nd round pick, 5th round pick, Topi Niemala (a Dubas draft pick).
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Pacioretty/McMann - Tavares - Marner
McMann/Pacioretty - Brock Nelson/Mikael Granlund/Morgan Frost - Rakell
Lorentz - Kampf/Dewar/Holmberg - Mathieu Olivier (CBJs)
To Leafs: Mathieu Olivier, 27, 4th line RW, ($1.1)
To CBJs: Kampf ($2.4), Robertson ($.875), 3rd round pick for taking the balance of Kampf's contract
Reaves ($1.35) or Benning ($1.25) demoted to the press box/Marlies
1.) 03 Dec 2024 04:03:05
Leafs need a legit 3rd line center.
2.) 03 Dec 2024 08:52:16
Water buffalo were you not the guy that said Marner only put up points in meaningless games
I still believe Robertson can score and we see what he has by January. If he still isn’t scoring. He will be out of chances. You notice him on ice with his speed and shot so we see.
The bottom line is Leafs need more than the big 5 scoring goals as we get near playoffs
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
Knies
Minten is already a pleasant surprise 5 games played 2 goals 2 assists but after him we are getting nothing from every other player!
This must end up being a deadly three line hockey team.
ICE TIME LAST NIGHT
Robertson 12;38 ice time 3 shots no points
Holmberg 15:30 ice time no shots 1 point
Grebenkin 9:39 ice time no shots no points 4 hits
Lorentz 12:08 ice time 1 assist 1 shot 6 hits blocks 1
Minten 1305 ice time 1 goal 1 shot 5 hits 1 block
Alex Nylander 9:53 ice time Zilch across board and 2 penalty min bad numbers
INJURY
McMann
Domi
Domi and McMann will get a lot more opportunity but the heat is on Nic Robertson I figure he has about 10 more games to get points on the board. If he doesn’t produce Leafs will be forced to trade for his replacement.
3.) 03 Dec 2024 10:05:21
MACKIN some days I think you need a smackin. A few days ago “were you not the guy” that thought it was time the leafs move on from Robertson because he couldn’t score. Now you still believe he can? Are you a chick cause your mood sure changes like one. Aren’t you the one that cried for the other nylander sister to get called up?
The team is winning and with the amount of injuries and a rotating bottom 6 I think it’s been solid.
I still think we give Minten some time here and see what he’s can do, there’s no rush in my opinion to go get a 3C. I agree that position will need to be Addressed but it doesn’t need to be tomorrow. They are winning even with all these injuries. If they were losing different story.
As for rakell hard pass from me.
4.) 03 Dec 2024 16:12:59
Ksmores summed that one up pretty well.
5.) 03 Dec 2024 19:37:03
Yep. I agree. Kmores spelled it all out pretty well.
6.) 03 Dec 2024 23:36:42
David1mackin
Nope!
It was not me that said Marner only puts up points in meaningless games.
While I agree that Leafs have a need for a 3rd line center, Minten is doing a pretty good job at the moment.
When I look at the Leafs lineup I see only two (2) right wingers.
Marner and Nylander.
Jarnkrok may be out until the playoffs and Reave’s 8:00 minutes per game are inconsequential.
Leafs need a 3rd and a 4th line right wingers.
I felt Rakell was a good target for the 3rd line RW slot as he wouldn’t be overly expensive to acquire and Leafs have the cap capital (Kampf, Jarnkrok, Domi, Reaves and Benning) to offset Rakell’s $5M dollar cap hit.
A 3rd line of:
Robertson - Minten (for now) - Rakell’s would produce some points for a team that relies so heavily on their Core 4 to score.
7.) 03 Dec 2024 23:41:35
RLF
I am a big fan of picks and prospects but I see Leafs as a win now team and picks and prospects don’t win cups.
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Reilly’s window of opportunity to win a cup is diminishing daily, weekly, monthly.
I feel they need to improve the balance of their forward group not trade for picks and prospects.
Rakell’s, Mathieu, Olivier, Morgan Frost, Brock Nelson, Mikael Granlund are some players who are available and would improve Leafs chances of going to a Conference Finals and if puck luck and goaltending were to hold up maybe a Stanley Cup Finals.
8.) 04 Dec 2024 00:40:54
@ waterbuff
Have you not watched the leafs this year how do you think guys like Rakell and frost are targets for the leafs domi has played hurt alit of the season not only that he plays with a lot of heart put him back with Matthews and watch.
9.) 04 Dec 2024 16:45:57
WB49
Yes, Leafs are in win now, I agree. If you read my whole explanation of why I said to move some extra bodies for picks/ prospects, I said "There will be time later to add a playoff piece and the extra trade capital of some picks/ prospects will come in handy. " This is how getting some extra prospects and picks now, help win a Cup.
In other words, having as many trade pieces as possible when the right deal comes along, Leafs have a better chance of giving the best offer. If we can tur Robertson into pieces now that help get us a guy like McBain later, you wouldn't do it?
10.) 05 Dec 2024 02:40:31
Yes!
I missed that.
Using picks and prospects acquired to top up the team at the deadline is a good move.
06 Oct 2024 00:28:06
To Utah: Kampf ($2.45), Liljegren ($3), 2025 - 3rd round pick
To Leafs Josh Doan ($925,000)
Thế 3rd round pick is to compensate Utah for absorbing the extra $4.525 in salary
Leafs 4th line:
McMann - Holmberg - Đoàn
Extras: Lorentz, Reaves
Robertson - Matthews - Marner
Knies - Domi - Nylander
Pacioretty - Tavares - Jarnkrok
McMann - Holmberg - Đoàn
1.) 06 Oct 2024 14:19:38
Not sure what the love affair with Jarncrap
I would trade him for a 7th to use his cap space.
2.) 06 Oct 2024 17:46:20
For sure! He is another Dubas Fu. k up.
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07 Jan 2025 04:32:17
Question?
Is Marner a Top 10 forward in the league??
I started thinking about this when a proposal was made to trade Marner for Dahlin.
My response was yes,I would trade a first line winger for a number #1 defenseman who is young with even more upside than the substantial talent he has displayed to date.
To my surprise the majority of the comments were negative.
So my top 10 thoughts commenced.
1) McDavid,
2) McKinnon
3) Draisaitl
4) Kucherov
5) Matthews
Top 5 in any order you like
6) Rantanin
7) Eichel
8) Barkov
9) Kaprizov
Now we get into personal preference for scorers over set up men over two way players
10) Jack Hughes, Braden Point, Mitch Marner, Pastranak, Necas, Reinhart, Aho, Nylander..,
My thoughts are:
Marner is an amazing player with an uncanny ability to see the ice and find his teammates with passes.
He's an offensive force with good defensive responsibility.
But, if you take away Marner's secondary assists and focus simply on his goals and Primary Assists then his numbers are suddenly not so gaudy.
Not pedestrian but not other worldly.
Personally I stick with the Sam Pollock's team building vision.
Build from the backend.
Goaltending, Defense, Center, Wingers
I'm afraid I stick with my opinion that I would trade Marner for a #1 defenseman who is the same age or preferably younger than Marner.
Thoughts?
Quash the abuse and insults ReFil that's not what this site is for!
Most of the other contributors are as smart as you, they simply have different opinions.
1.) 07 Jan 2025 14:13:44
A top 10 forward in the League is so subjective. He's not top 5 I agree.
I wouldn't do Marner for Dahlin because Dahlin is locked in at $11M. Another top pair D for Marner on a better contract? Maybe.
2.) 07 Jan 2025 16:25:48
I think it's more fair to compare Marner to top RW, not top forwards. Marner is 100% a top line RW and probably top 3/ 4.
Anyways, with that said, I agree with RLF regarding Dahlin (AAV too large) .
I would one for one trade Marner for Dobson or Seider, but those aren't going to happen.
3.) 07 Jan 2025 17:01:46
BTW WB I'm pretty sure ReFilL is the former GrumpyStumpy.
4.) 07 Jan 2025 18:39:46
@RLF disagree on Dahlin. I think he's a future Noeris winner on a better team. My only issue with acquiring him is which side he plays. They're committed to Mo now. Can't really afford someone to replace his spot.
5.) 07 Jan 2025 18:54:15
Tags. yea, it is. He tried two other attempts at putting my username in new ones he created. Something like RLFwise and RLFhasnobrains. If you notice he capitalized R-F-L this time. So clever.
First time I have had someone become so obsessed that they made new usernames based on me. lol.
6.) 07 Jan 2025 19:17:07
LL. You could be right and he may win a Norris as it is usually given to an offensive Defenceman. There is a lot to like about Dahlin. He even has a little nasty streak. What I don't like is his defensive play. There is a reason he only PK's about a minute a game and he has for his career one of the worst on icesv% of any Sabres D-man while getting mostly offensive minutes.
Dahlin is not great value for money imo.
I'd take Jokiharju if Buffalo is selling and the cost isn't too big.
7.) 07 Jan 2025 19:18:41
RLF yes, the first 2 were pretty obvious. I'm not always on here, but when I started reading some of the props and sarcastic/ rude responses it was pretty easy to figure out ReFilL was GrumpyStumpy. I didn't pick up on the capitalized R-F-L though, he is sooo clever NOT ?.
I guess you have a fan/ stocker ?.
8.) 10 Jan 2025 16:54:45
@RLF he's not great defensively, but that team such an absolute mess and has been for a decade, I can let some things go. Everyone that leaves Buffalo gets better.
9.) 10 Jan 2025 19:04:00
LL. That'a a good point. It works 2 ways though. They always don't get better though. Sometimes their role changes from what it was and they don't adapt well. Personally, I think Dahlin would improve if traded to the Leafs. It's still $11M though and to me, in the end is about the equivalent of Marner at $14M. I don't really want either of them at those prices with term.
30 Oct 2024 23:59:11
I see that Treliving has traded Liljegren for a throwaway in Benning and 3rd and 6th round picks who, history shows us will likely never make it past a spot on the Marlies.
More great work by Treliving.
Taking over where Dubas left off.
1.) 31 Oct 2024 01:37:25
Benning is a depth guy forsure but what this trade does is free up cap space and add draft capital I think tree did pretty good here imo.
2.) 31 Oct 2024 08:46:39
What did you expect WB, Makar? Lilly hasn't been good and os getting older.
3.) 31 Oct 2024 11:40:08
Goat has it dead on. Depth veteran D, draft capital and removing $2M off the cap. Cap space increase if they send someone through waivers.
4.) 31 Oct 2024 17:48:55
@WB
Liljegren brought this on himself. He was given ample opportunity to show something and unfortunately he failed over and over.
I wish him the best of luck in SJ, I'm sure he will play much better on a non playoff team and with much less (if any) market pressure.
5.) 31 Oct 2024 18:25:13
Not to mention he did this almost simultaneous as a 2 time cup winner with better defensive instincts went to Utah for a 3rd. This to me based on the Utah trade is a kings ransom for Lily.
Also don't over analyze my wording on Maata. They are both poo, we just got paid more for our poo.
04 Aug 2024 02:15:08
If Hakanppa can not pass his physical (bone on bone knee), his $1.5M contract offer becomes available to the Leafs.
I would like to see the Leafs attempt to use that money to sign Oliver Kylington.
Kylington has been through some serious personal trials this past couple of years but when he returned to Calgary last season, for the final 30 games he showed that he is still, clearly an NHL caliber defenseman and possibly still a top 4 defender as he was with the Flames prior to his troubles.
Reilly - Tanev
OEL - McCabe
Kylington - Liljegren
Benoit - Timmins
1.) 04 Aug 2024 17:15:37
I don't mind kylington, good long shot prop but apparently he wants money and at least 2 years.
2.) 06 Aug 2024 02:56:28
Kylington just signed in Colorado 1 year/ 1.05M. Would have been worth a shot.
29 Jun 2024 01:35:05
As a reminder to those who wanted the Leafs to give up a substantial package to move up in the draft to select Cole Eiserman.
The other teams in the league thought so highly of Eiserman that he ended up being selected #20 by the Islanders!!!
26 Jun 2024 01:26:12
A tidbit of information for those who want the Leafs to trade up to select Cole Eiserman.
In TSN's mid-season rankings in late January, Eiserman dropped from No. 2 to No. 4.
But by the time TSN did its Draft Lottery Edition rankings in early May, he had plummeted all the way to No. 13.
Now he's sitting solidly at No. 14 on our final list.
Eiserman didn't get a single Top 10 vote from any of the 10 scouts in our final rankings. He was slotted as high as No. 11 but no lower than No. 16 on their lists, so he's still a strong consensus Top 15 prospect.
But the slide, for a high-end pick, has been precipitous.
"He's quite one dimensional, he's a one-way shooter," said a scout. "He has a great shot - no one has a better one timer - but is it going to translate [to pro] because he either can't or won't do the other things necessary [to score in the NHL]?"
Some scouts said he exhibits some selfish qualities on the ice, suggesting he's more interested in personal achievement at the expense of developing his overall game or team play. Others, however, believe the criticisms are overblown and his strengths are too enticing to ignore.
1.) 26 Jun 2024 10:15:49
From all of the reports, I would steer clear. Everything I have read screams Mitch and Willy to me.
2.) 26 Jun 2024 13:14:49
He's not a guy I would target either. He is kind of like a combination of Zegras and Laine imo. Which I don't really want either of those players.
3.) 26 Jun 2024 14:46:47
No interest in Eiserman.
I'm thinking Tre trade down for a 2nd & 3rd, the D-men in the 23OA area are fringe #4 or bottom pairing. IMO better to trade down and get an extra pick.
Some player's in the bottom of round 1 will slip into round 2. I would take a flyer on Yegor Surin or Sahlin Wallenius if we trade down (that is if they're still around early 2nd) .
If we keep our draft spot, I would rather target a C such as Boisvert or Beaudoin rather than D.
4.) 26 Jun 2024 15:49:50
Tags, You don't like Charlie Elick in the 23 spot? Big, physical defender that skates really well and plays a hard game. Personally, I see him as #3/ 4 potential. What don't you like about the D in that range like Elick, Mews, Emery for instance. I'm not really a big fan of Freij though.
5.) 26 Jun 2024 16:10:10
RLF I just think there isn't enough of a gap between your group from Sahlin Wallenus, Badinka (BTW I think Mews slides down to 2nd round) . It make more sense to trade down 10/ 15 spots and get another pick further down IMO. Only thing I would miss is Elick's physicality.
6.) 26 Jun 2024 16:12:08
Plus I think I would rather target a C at the 23 spot, someone like Boisvert or Beaudoin. If trading down, maybe Yegor Surin is still available (he's someone who caught my attention) .
7.) 26 Jun 2024 16:36:07
I do like Beaudoin, but he reminds me a lot of Minten, which we already have. My mind could be changed if Marner is traded pre-draft and the return makes a guy like Elick moot. May see Badinka or Wallenus slip into the end of the 1st or start of the 2nd round. Not sure they're around at 33-38. Some have Badinka ahead of Elick, I like Elick more than most I think.
8.) 26 Jun 2024 18:38:42
I like Elick's physically and size, buy not sure how much better, if better than the other's listed. I think Beaudoin has more of a motor than Minten. He seems to be all over the ice, and has a very high compete level. Maybe if we get Beaudoin, Minten can be an attractive add on to a trade package for a D.
I honestly don't think Marner gets traded, which really puts us behind the 8-ball. We'll be super tight against the cap, especially with
these UFA prices I'm hearing today, scary!
Hopefully Tre can make a trade for a D-man and then we spend on one of the top UFA D-men out there and sign a lower end one as well. And I don't think Lily stay as he's not a Berube type player.
waterbuffalo49's rumour replies
15 Jan 2025 01:10:10
According to Elite Sports Gudbranson has only played 3 games this year so I would assume he is out with a long term injury.
I have never been a fan of Gudbranson’s game and see him as a bottom pairing defenseman and not a sufficient upgrade over Benoit and Timmins to sacrifice assets for.
Jenner and Mathieu Olivier on the other hand would be great additions.
Jenner fits the role of 3rd line center perfectly and Olivier fills a need at right wing on the 4th line and would hopefully allow Berube to plant Reaves in the press box.
As RLF points out, CBJs are in the hunt for a wild card slot which would be great for the team and the city after losing Johnny Gaudreau.
They might be looking to upgrade not sell off.
14 Jan 2025 00:01:27
Briere has already stated he is holding out for a 1st round pick.
Change that 2nd for a 1st and Laughton is probably yours.
Do Leafs really want to give up a 1st for a 3rd line center?
13 Jan 2025 23:58:13
I would make that trade but I don’t think Vancouver would.
Canucks want an NHL ready center not a center still developing in the AHL.
13 Jan 2025 23:53:00
Trading a 19 year old Cowan for a 34 year old Kadri would seem a very poor decision.
13 Jan 2025 02:48:20
I see the trade benefiting the Leafs but not so much the Blackhawks.
waterbuffalo49's banter replies
07 Jan 2025 02:22:04
Granlund would be my pick.
Dobson or JT Miller would probably require one of Marner or Nylander to acquire.
O’Reilly is 34 years old and I am very much against sacrificing assets for players at the end of their careers.
Gompher is an overpaid, 3rd line center who would look good in Blue & White depending on the price. (Cheap)
Nelson is another 33 year old with a big body but almost completely lacking in physicality.
Not really suitable as a 3rd line player.
Nelson is not playing nearly as well as Tavares this season and I would not want to see Tavares demoted to the 3rd line considering his productivity just to bring in Nelson.
McTavish would be nice but it is highly unlikely ducks trade him unless the offer is excessive.
Gourde I am of two minds about.
Gourde is also 33 years old, a rental, with a cap hit of $5.166.
Leafs can not likely afford to resign him after resigning Marner, MCabe’s new contract, Knies new contract and the rest of the players on expiring contracts who will expect raises.
Gourde would be fine, again, depending on the price!
22 Jun 2023 00:10:43
If Leafs could sign FA Brett Pesce 28, 6’3”, 206lbs, then I would be okay with them buying out Brodie.
Otherwise there are few, quality, RHD available making Brodie somewhat irreplaceable.
Another RHD consideration (not to replace Brodie but to add) is Scott Mayfield.
08 Jun 2023 05:26:40
Dubas should have been targeting Acciari and Barbashev at the trade deadline not O’Reilly who was -21 for the regular season and -3 in the playoffs.
05 Jun 2023 11:07:05
Are you suggesting he should or will sign Lucic (god forbid), Reaves (unnecessary), Johnson (terrible), Robinson (? ), Schenn (okay), Dahlstrom (why? ) .
With Samsonov and Woll, Stolarz will not be a Leaf.
20 Apr 2023 02:35:22
Have to agree.
Bunting (Kadri) has probably bought his ticket out of town.
Slow motion replay does indicate that Buntings hit on Cernak was accidental and unintentional.
The replay conclusively shows that Bunting was looking away from Cernak and focusing on the puck.
Not an excuse!
It was a hit to the head, intentional or not and worthy of a major penalty.
Just not convinced it was worthy of a 3 game suspension.
If Bunting, and Kerfoot are not back next season it leaves two openings at LW.
Can Knies, McMann, Steeves or Robertson step up or will the Leafs have to dip into free agency?