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07 Mar 2026 01:12:24
Well, that was a disappointing (depressing) trade deadline.
A late 2027 - 1st (Roy)
A 2027 - 2nd (McMann)
A 2026 - 3rd (Laughton)
Hopefully Treliving won’t survive this mess he has created.
Berube isn't a youth/development coach and must be replaced.
I think Leafs fans are in for a long rebuild.
Hopefully MLSE pick the right man for the job this time.
1.) 07 Mar 2026 10:31:17
So my buddy and his kid who played in the show said they were watching the scenario over the last few weeks and he was talking to his agent getting his opinion on how things went. Interesting take on it actually.
He said Colorado pretty much had a deal in place with Calgary with Kadri but it was a constant back and forth on what the pieces would be, so in case it fell apart they jumped on Nicolas Roy to ensure they had a hard forechecker and good faceoff guy for the stretch and the playoffs. Then if the Kadri deal came together they were set down the middle even if they had an injury.
The McMann one is the frustrating one. His feedback from his group of sources was the Leafs had 4 to 5 offers of a 1st round pick right after the Calgary, Edmonton games when McMann had a goal in each. Then the next day was Roster Freeze. Apparently Leafs wanted a prospect as well. They decided to hold out, and then McMann went 4 games after the Olympics with no goals and the offers by the third game for a 1st were off the table.
McMann was not dressed for the last 2 games for fear of injury leading to trade deadline, that was one part of the reasoning the other fear was if he had gone another 2 games with no goals he may not have even been in play for a trade at all.
Not as much insight into the Laughton deal but word was they had an early offer of a 2nd and a 3rd but held off and trying for a better deal. They waited too long and got backed into a corner. Hence all we got was a 3rd rounder.
So in essence the only good deal we really got was the Roy one and that was because Colorado really wanted a backup plan for Kadri.
Colorado is going to be a rough team to match up against down the middle. (Like they weren't already lol) Now it's McKinnon, Kadri, Nelson (Could flip those either way as number 2 or number 3 center) Roy as the 4th line center, with either Parker Kelly or Jack Drury drawing in on the 4th line as a winger in case another centre goes down with injury.
2.) 07 Mar 2026 14:21:00
You have conveniently also left out the 5th for Roy, the 4th for McMann and that if LA makes the playoffs Laughton pick becomes a 2nd.
I'm not saying this was a great trade deadline by any means.
Honestly, what did we expect for Laughton? Berube played him as a 4th liner. A 2nd or 3rd for a 4th liner is a decent return.
McMann, sure I would have loved a 1st. But there wasn't alot of 1sts handed out in general.
Roy - 2027, Chicago only got one (2027) because they took on Mangi, otherwise they weren't getting one for both Dickinson and Dach.
Wash got a 1st and 3rd for Carlson, one of the best D in the League. Blues got a conditional 1st for Schenn and a 1st for Faulk. Flames got a conditional 1st for Kadri in 28.
That's it. And people think McMann should easily have been a 1st+? So what Carlson got? Not likely.
The 1st and 5th for Roy was a great return based on what other players returns were. Even Panarin, an over point a game player, didn't get a 1st.
Can't only look at what the Leafs got as returns, have to look at the whole picture.
3.) 07 Mar 2026 14:42:15
What you mean Panarin didn’t get a 1st? They got Greentree, which is even better then a 1st.
4.) 07 Mar 2026 16:10:55
Panarin is over a point per game player. Last year even, that would have been Greentree and a 1st. Weegar easily would have been a 1st+
5.) 07 Mar 2026 16:59:34
Didn't conveniently leave them out as that was not the gist of the post. Was just relaying what I was given for background on how the getting greedy and not pulling the trigger took away from the initial offerings. Tre does not read the market that well. It's how he funbled the Huberdeau signing. He was so desperate to show the world Calgary could keep and sign players after losing Tkachuk and Gaudreau.
He offered $2 million more than what Huberdeau's camp was hoping to get. I have yet to hear of a agent that says...." No you guys are offering to much" lol
Anyway deadline is done. Let's move on to our Spring Meetings of the Leaf GM's at large and find a way to fix this mess.
6.) 07 Mar 2026 23:19:58
I wasn't referring to you, L1967. It was WB49 who left out the picks. Not sure why you assumed that was for you, as you weren't the original poster.
7.) 08 Mar 2026 01:34:02
@ RLF No offense taken. Guess because you posted right after my post.It gets confusing some on some of the more active posts. Thats why I try to tag posters now.
8.) 08 Mar 2026 21:19:57
The reason Panarin didn’t get more is because he’s an older forward, had no term and will cost too much to resign.
LAK want him for this year only and paid accordingly.
Weegar got a haul IMO, a serviceable veteran, a prospect and three 2nds!
We got nothing like that.
Treliving at the TDL was categorically overmatched and out-negotiated.
He cannot remain in his current position!
9.) 08 Mar 2026 23:47:46
LA actually signed him for 2 more years at $11 Million each year the day they traded for him, Randy.
23 Feb 2026 00:34:11
Another preposterous proposal!
1) To St Louis: Austin Matthews, Captain of the Gold Medal winning Team USA
To Leafs: Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou
2) To Tampa: McMann (50% retained), Benoit
To Leafs: Sam O’Reilly
Knies - Thomas - Kyrou
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Cowan - Roy - O’Reilly
Lorentz - Laughton - Joshua
I know.
Ridiculous!
1.) 23 Feb 2026 00:47:06
Matthews as he is laying on his Therapists couch :
" It was the craziest dream. First they let Mitch go to Free Agency and he is living the high life in Vegas. Then they traded me to the 2nd worst team in the league and said my no-trade contract was not signed in front of a witness so I had no choice but to go. Then they traded McMann and Benoit to Tampa and they won a Stanley Cup. Then the worst part of the dream was when I dreamt I was losing all my hair! "
He then stands up looks in the mirror and notices his Hairline "AAAAAAAAHHHH OMG It wasn't a dream".
2.) 23 Feb 2026 16:12:42
Ridiculous. ????.
3.) 23 Feb 2026 23:04:07
Blowhard.
Did you not read the 2nd word?
Preposterous!
Perhaps you don’t know what that means?
Buy yourself a dictionary.
4.) 23 Feb 2026 23:10:23
Fun read.
Keep the fiction going!
5.) 24 Feb 2026 16:24:41
Go back to grazing in the pastures u ????. Didn’t need to read it already knew it was worthless even as comedic post.
12 Jan 2026 04:05:46
To Leafs:
Leafs absorb Mangiapane’s unwanted $3.6 million dollar contract for this year and next unburdening Oilers cap.
To Oilers:
Leafs send Anthony Stolarz to Oilers providing them with a, when healthy, top 10 goaltender in the league based on last years numbers not this year’s injury riddled numbers.
Stolarz is not far off returning healthy to the lineup.
For providing Oilers with the upgraded goaltending they are desperately in need of, at $2.5 million dollar contract for Stolarz and absorbing 1 1/ 2 years of Mangiapane’s $3.6 million, Oilers send Leafs Isaac Howard as the sweetener.
1.) 12 Jan 2026 09:40:14
I’d still hold off selling on a goalie there’s still no evidence that woll can stay healthy or that hildaby can keep up his play the leafs have a luxury they haven’t had in a long time wait and see before you punt a guy out the door.
2.) 12 Jan 2026 15:22:12
Nope, no value in either of them players.
3.) 13 Jan 2026 01:01:08
You wanna trade stolarz who when healthy is statistically a top 3 goalie in the league for a guy who might as well be a healthy scratch on the oilers?
4.) 13 Jan 2026 14:33:40
Oilers don’t want another goalie Ingram starting to play well and Jarry set to return. Waste of a trade for both especially with that return.
28 Nov 2025 00:22:56
The proposals get more and more far fetched as Leafs flounder at or near the bottom of the Eastern Conference.
Số here is one to sink your teeth into.
To St Louis: Matthews ($13.25), Carlo ($3.485) = $16.735
To Leafs: Robert Thomas ($8.125), Jordan Kyrou ($8.125) = $16.25
Might have to fire Berube after making this deal ??
1.) 28 Nov 2025 14:55:47
Not really on board for this one. Neither of these Blues players play a very physical game, so yes, you probably have to fire Berube. Both are having down seasons. Nor do either produce much in the playoffs for the most part. Kyrou is a bit of a headcase imo. Typically he has been a liability defensively. Not a guy I would really target. For the most part I like Thomas, but it seems like a so-so return for Matthews alone, never-mind throwing in Carlo where Toronto's defence gets weaker and getting no cap relief at all.
2.) 29 Nov 2025 11:13:30
Thomas for Matthews straight up is ridiculous. If u r giving up a d one needs to come back has to b a RD. Kyrou is overrated.
3.) 29 Nov 2025 17:51:25
No one said Matthews for Thomas straight up. The point was although Thomas is a good player, even adding Kyrou seems like a so-so return for Matthews especially when adding Carlo and no cap savings.
13 Nov 2025 01:46:07
Leafs only have two (2) players and two (2) prospects that other teams might really be interested in.
Matthews & Nylander, Cowan & Danford.
Leafs are already the 4th oldest team in the league with no picks until 2028 and only Cowan & Danford as true NHL prospects.
Trading either or both prospects is a recipe for disaster as Treliving's two deadline deals were (2026 - 1st, Minten, 2027 - 1st Grebenkin).
I would prefer to keep our two prospects and Willie is my favorite/only Leaf I really like.
That Leaves Matthews.
As GM, I would sit down with Matthews and his agent, point out that the team is going nowhere but backwards and ask them if they would consider providing a list of 3 or 4 teams they might consider a trade too.
Then go to work to see if any of those teams have a package to offer that would justify trading Leafs #1 center.
Something like:
To LA Kings: Matthews
To Leafs: Quinton Byfield, Brandt Clarke, Liam Greentree and a 2026 - 2nd round pick.
Knies - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Byfield - Greentree
Joshua - Roy - ? (McMann)
Lorentz's - Laughton - Jarnkrok
McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Clarke
Benoit - Carlo
Reilly
1.) 13 Nov 2025 13:00:48
Why’s trading a 2nd line winger and a #4 D who are a few years off, a recipe for disaster? Either they have to go for it now . / or a total tear down to rebuild around the 2nd line winger and #4 D that will lead leafs to Stanley cup glory .
2.) 14 Nov 2025 04:17:49
I would call trading your #1 center the beginning of a tear down.
The hope is that Byfield will develop into the #1 center by the time Tavares’s contract expires.
Liam Greentree ís a right winger a commodity Leaf’s only have two of at the moment and one of them is Jarnkrok.
Brandt Clarke ís a right hand defenseman and ís already better than either Carlo or Reilly.
You don’t have to like this particular deal.
Suggest another?
What i am saying is that Leaf’s should trade Matthew’s before considering trading any more of their future in terms of picks or prospects.
No one trade for a guy like Schenn (34) or Kadri (35) is going to change Leafs current misfortunes.
3.) 14 Nov 2025 10:09:00
@WB49 I just never heard a real hockey mind say Nylander is their favourite. I can’t stand watching this guy play most of the time. Gives up on his team, terrible on the defensive side of the puck. Terrible role model for the younger guys. Lacks heart! Knies, NcMann and JT are the heart of the forward group right now.
4.) 14 Nov 2025 10:12:44
Rielly is the 7th dman?
5.) 14 Nov 2025 11:37:01
WB is on some seriously good stuff when he posts ????.
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13 Nov 2025 02:44:19
Not a trade but something to contemplate.
Leafs currently sit 14th in the Eastern Conference, 3 points up on Buffalo who hold two (2) games in hand over the Leafs.
Leafs are currently 27th in a league of 32 teams.
If the draft was being held today Leafs pick would be 6th overall.
Did Brad Treliving think to make that pick he gave to Boston "Lottery Protected"?
I just checked.
Leafs 2026 - 1st round pick, owned by the Boston Bruins is only Top 5 protected.
Try not to dwell to long on the potentially disastrous prospect that could entail.
1.) 13 Nov 2025 10:31:30
It's mid November. Leafs are also 5 pts out of first place in their division and 8 pts out of first in the conference. A little early to be contemplating this stuff. imo
It's a hit piece on Tre because you don't like him.
09 Jul 2025 23:49:50
Report: Penguins 'fielding calls' on Rakell and Rust!
TSN.ca Staff
Published Jul 08, 2025
The Pittsburgh Penguins have been "fielding calls" on veteran forwards Rickard Rakell and Bryan Rust since their season came to an end, according to Josh Yohe of The Athletic. Kyle Dubas is willing to wait until his asking price is met.
In my opinion one of these two players would be the most suitable fit on Leafs 1st line alongside Matthews and Knies.
It appears they are both available.
What would the cost be?
Would Dubas deal with the Leafs?
Can anyone think of any, more suitable alternatives, that are available?
Not LWers who would be shoehorned into the RW slot. (Re: Maccelli)
Right wingers with proven offensive ability to play in the top 6.
They are 32 & 33 years old respectively, but are only under contract for 3 more years each, so not a long term commitment.
1.) 10 Jul 2025 16:37:20
If Leafs aren't or won't offer Cowan+, what else do Leafs have to offer that they wouldn't mind trading that Dubas would say yes to?
2.) 10 Jul 2025 21:16:21
Cowan is basically the only trade chip left. I'm not sure what else you offer anyone in any trade anymore.
09 Jul 2025 03:34:05
So much for everyone's favorite trade acquisition!
Mammoth, Jack McBain reach five-year deal to avoid arbitration
Associated Press
July 07, 2025
SALT LAKE CITY - The Utah Mammoth have re-signed Jack McBain to a five-year contract worth $21.25 million.
1.) 09 Jul 2025 09:51:08
It's a good contract for Utah. Would have like to see this one happen for the Leafs.
2.) 09 Jul 2025 15:13:52
Personally, I think the number is high, I originally figured max around $3.5M per like Jeannot got. I think he got more because of what Jeannot got.
I had been on the McBain train for years on here (I think I actually drove this one) . Still would have love to see him a Leaf.
02 Jul 2025 10:14:31
Not a fan of any of Treliving's timid moves.
Undersized Maccelli, Travis Boyd, Pezzeta, Grouix, Mermis??
Certainly nothing there that will impact Leafs winning next season.
I would have liked to see Jeanott in Blue and White but Boston gave him $3.4 x 5 years.
Would have been much better signing than acquiring Maccelli but awfully pricey for a 3rd/4th line player.
Rangers grabbed Taylor Raddysh for $1.5 x 3 years another player I liked for the bottom 6.
He would have fit well at RW on the 4th line.
Justin Brazeau was another 4th line RW I felt could have been a target for the Leafs, $1.5 x 2 years to the Penguins.
Scrolling down the list of signings, it strikes me how few players I would have wanted to see ending up with the Leafs.
Most of anything impactful was simply too expensive.
There was a lot of talk about all that could be done with the freed up $11 million from Marner's contract but nothing came of it and Leafs still only have a little over $5 million to play with.
Leafs are still in need of a 1st line RW and a 3rd line RW unless they plan on playing Jarnkrok in that position.
I see a 1st significant downturn in Leafs fortunes coming up in 2025 - 2026.
Too many passengers not enough drivers.
1.) 02 Jul 2025 12:12:23
@WB49 I actually agree with you. I was excited to see where we spend Marners money just to find out he spent 3.5 on Maccelli. With 5M left, I don’t see anyone short of Brayden Schenn coming here and making a real impact. Terrible free agency day from Tre. Missed on soo many names that would have helped us, now we play against half of them in Boston. Ughhhhh.
2.) 02 Jul 2025 12:48:32
There wasn’t no names out there that would of been the impactful players you are looking for jeannot got 3.5 guy hasn’t scored enough goals to match his goal total in his first year lol leafs are fine they will make another trade move off some guys and try and add a 2nd/ 3rd liner.
3.) 02 Jul 2025 12:51:43
Leafs have over $6M in cap space. Reaves goes down to the minors after camp.
As for the day. I had Jeannot at 5 or 6 X$3M and everyone said no way. Boston signed him for 5x$3.4M, so can't imagine people being happy with that.
My guess, Tre is working on a trade and/ or in on Ehlers. Although I am not sure if Ehlers fits what they want in a top 6 winger. They may be after J. Robertson (rumoured to be possibly on the trade block) who is much better at 5 on 5 scoring while still contributing on the PP.
4.) 02 Jul 2025 22:40:33
I like Ross Colton as a trade target now that Ryan McLeod has been resigned. AVS need to do something!
23 Mar 2025 23:46:18
Early returns on the Lawton trade are disastrous!
Treliving traded for a 3rd line center and instead received a 4th line LW which Leafs already had an abundance of.
Meanwhile, Domi is still Leafs 3rd line center.
All this for the low price of a 1st round pick and Grebyonkin. ??
At the same tome we can look at the impact Brock Nelson is having on the Avalanche and Dylan Cozens is having on the Ottawa Senators.
Treliving is incompetent and should not be allowed to negotiate Marner's new contract!
There is no way this team is a true Stanley Cup contender.
1.) 24 Mar 2025 01:25:19
To be fair berube didn’t really give him a look at 3C very long and kampf and Lorentz aren’t gonna spark any offence like I’ve been saying he seems like a McCabe McCabe came in 2 years ago and looked awful they leafs gave up a 1st for him but ever since he’s been great if leafs didn’t address that spot we would of been pissed off fact is the prices were high due to the lack of sellers him at 1.5 next year will be a steal.
2.) 24 Mar 2025 03:11:14
This is one where I agree. I didn't want Laughton in the first place.
Laughton wasn't even good on the rebuilding Flyers. To assume he can be an upgrade at 3C always seemed like wishful thinking.
I believe this was a desperation move by Tre. The Carlo move was intentional, but he was probably outbid for the guys he wanted and jumped the gun on Laughton.
Either way, it isn't looking good.
3.) 24 Mar 2025 08:18:28
The way I see the trade break down is he was gonna cost 2nd and a mid prospect which is grebeynkin but cause there’s 50% for multiple years it was a 1st you look at what other teams paid for rentals Nelson went for a 1st and a top prospect gourde went for a 1st he has 6 goals cozen would of cost knies so idk where the leafs were supposed to add keep in mind to Nelson makes 6 million so even at 50% he still cost 3 so essentially that would of been torontos only move so idk what you guys think tree could of done differently I mean he tried to get rantanen.
4.) 24 Mar 2025 18:28:49
The jury has a verdict after 8 games? How was McMann's or McCabe's first 8 games? Yet Timmins, Dewar for instance looked pretty good. Give the guy a chance. He is used to playing 15-16 mins a night and he is on the 4th line in Toronto. He is better than a 4th line player.
5.) 25 Mar 2025 17:49:32
@RLF it's more my opinion of him before the trade that skews my view. I liked the McCabe trade and thought he would fit in.
6.) 25 Mar 2025 19:28:01
LL. And what was your opinion?
7.) 26 Mar 2025 12:02:23
I personally think we lost a gem in Grebyenkin. I think this kid is gonna be valuable as a middle 6!winger in this league and brings exactly what the Leafs needed. I’m really hoping Laughton pans out or we took a big loss here considering he is either playing 4th line or 3rd line left wing.
8.) 26 Mar 2025 15:41:06
@clarky he’s got a great personality to him no doubt but he’s a bottom six guy with no experience I think we need to stop looking a grebeynkin like he’s irreplaceable.
waterbuffalo49's rumour replies
11 Mar 2026 04:53:53
Fantilli is an RFA.
Why wouldn’t CBJs be resigning him?
Leafs can’t make offers to RFAs as they don’t have the draft compensation requires.
11 Mar 2026 04:36:13
Considering he is top 10 among defenseman in scoring, Darren Raddysh will likely want at least $7 x 5 which I would not want to see the
Leafs give him.
I would keep Stecher’s and let Myers walk.
I like the young targets like Bernard Docker and Mustard.
I was surprised Treliving didn’t trade for Stanley at the deadline.
But that’s Treliving.
Nó plan!
11 Mar 2026 04:29:37
Agree Goat.
It’s California or bust for Matthews.
Not another struggling team.
11 Mar 2026 04:28:08
You lost my vote (??) when you resigned Maccelli.
He has scored some points but is completely a non impact player who you don’t know is on the ice unless he gets a point.
I don’t think any team in the league is taking Domi and sending back an asset.
Trade Matthews and Nylander for the most young assets we can get.
Signing UFAs over 30 years old for 3 year terms is not how to rebuild a team.
07 Mar 2026 23:47:49
Rielly comparable to Carlson and Faulk?
Are you sure you’re following the same Leaf team as the rest of us?
Rielly is more comparable to Benoit and Myers than Carlson or Faulk.
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07 Jan 2025 02:22:04
Granlund would be my pick.
Dobson or JT Miller would probably require one of Marner or Nylander to acquire.
O’Reilly is 34 years old and I am very much against sacrificing assets for players at the end of their careers.
Gompher is an overpaid, 3rd line center who would look good in Blue & White depending on the price. (Cheap)
Nelson is another 33 year old with a big body but almost completely lacking in physicality.
Not really suitable as a 3rd line player.
Nelson is not playing nearly as well as Tavares this season and I would not want to see Tavares demoted to the 3rd line considering his productivity just to bring in Nelson.
McTavish would be nice but it is highly unlikely ducks trade him unless the offer is excessive.
Gourde I am of two minds about.
Gourde is also 33 years old, a rental, with a cap hit of $5.166.
Leafs can not likely afford to resign him after resigning Marner, MCabe’s new contract, Knies new contract and the rest of the players on expiring contracts who will expect raises.
Gourde would be fine, again, depending on the price!
22 Jun 2023 00:10:43
If Leafs could sign FA Brett Pesce 28, 6’3”, 206lbs, then I would be okay with them buying out Brodie.
Otherwise there are few, quality, RHD available making Brodie somewhat irreplaceable.
Another RHD consideration (not to replace Brodie but to add) is Scott Mayfield.
08 Jun 2023 05:26:40
Dubas should have been targeting Acciari and Barbashev at the trade deadline not O’Reilly who was -21 for the regular season and -3 in the playoffs.
05 Jun 2023 11:07:05
Are you suggesting he should or will sign Lucic (god forbid), Reaves (unnecessary), Johnson (terrible), Robinson (? ), Schenn (okay), Dahlstrom (why? ) .
With Samsonov and Woll, Stolarz will not be a Leaf.
20 Apr 2023 02:35:22
Have to agree.
Bunting (Kadri) has probably bought his ticket out of town.
Slow motion replay does indicate that Buntings hit on Cernak was accidental and unintentional.
The replay conclusively shows that Bunting was looking away from Cernak and focusing on the puck.
Not an excuse!
It was a hit to the head, intentional or not and worthy of a major penalty.
Just not convinced it was worthy of a 3 game suspension.
If Bunting, and Kerfoot are not back next season it leaves two openings at LW.
Can Knies, McMann, Steeves or Robertson step up or will the Leafs have to dip into free agency?