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10 Jul 2022 19:23:26
Losing Sandin to an offer sheet for a 2nd isn’t an option and if he won’t sign unless he has a top 6 D role, move on from Muzzin.

Leafs trade Muzzin to wherever he will waive his NTC

Leafs then sign Manson in FA for same AAV as Muzzin makes around 5.5M.


Rielly/ Brodie
Sandin/ Manson
Gio/ Liljegren.

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 10 Jul 2022 20:25:30
Manson said he won't come to Canada.


2.) 10 Jul 2022 22:55:07
Just move on from Muzzin and get Sandin signed.
NOW.


3.) 11 Jul 2022 00:49:39
For what it’s worth, I have read that Manson isn’t interested in coming to Canada and wants to return to California.

But I totally agree that everything possible should be done to Trade Muzzin and retain Sandin.


 

 

09 Jun 2022 18:58:05
I have been seeing that Mrazek has been linked to the Blackhawks. I think we should target Dylan Strome in this deal as well.

Leafs Trade: Mrazek, 2nd, Abruzzesse
Blackhawks Trade: Strome

We would still need to shed the contracts on Holl and Kerfoot to afford a Goalie.

Thoughts?

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 09 Jun 2022 20:52:00
Mrazek will not get any kind of return. I have been saying for weeks Mrazek to Chicago. Mrazek for Connolly straight up makes sense for both teams. Mrazek plays for Chicago and Leafs buyout Connolly and get about $2.68M in cap space.


2.) 09 Jun 2022 21:18:27
Love to get Strome - friends with Marner / biggest deal would be to unload Mrazek. This might take more than Abruzzesse - we don't have many picks left so really would not give up the 2nd - maybe prospect instead.
Good idea ALF like your thinking.


3.) 09 Jun 2022 22:03:22
I am aware that Mrazek will not get any type of return, think of it as Mrazek and Abruzzesse to shed the contract and the 2nd for Strome. If it’s costs any more than a 2nd or B level to prospect we should just buy out Mrazek as I do not want Connolly.


4.) 09 Jun 2022 23:23:46
I fully agree that we have to move on and find a trade partner for Mrazek. We simply need cap space.

I also agree that a decent package would be needed to get a trade done.

His 2021/ 22 was very bad, for sure, but he still has a 2.64 GAA and .909 SV% so he is not the trash that everyone says.

How much did his injuries hurt him last year? Is it difficult to play in Toronto listening to everyone say you’re trash?

Abruzzese could be a decent NHL player in the future. Leafs don’t have a 2nd round pick.

I don’t think the Hawks want to trade Strome (Kane says NO) so maybe a different Hawk player should be targeted.

Keep Abruzzese and send them Mrazek, Kerfoot and Holl and take Tyler Johnson’s $5m salary off their hands. He’s a very speedy, feisty and versatile forward who can score, with Cup pedigree.


5.) 10 Jun 2022 00:48:56
@Alberta. It costs less to buyout Connolly than Mrazek. That is why Leafs make the Deal.


6.) 10 Jun 2022 03:26:04
@Rsears look up Mrazek game by game. He's had a few great stretches, but also entire seasons like this one before. I do believe he is that bad, always have.


7.) 10 Jun 2022 12:34:53
@LL
So Mrazek, as you point out, has had 3 bad years in his 11 seasons, as defined by GAA of 3.0+.
The balance have been good using a GAA of 2.0 - 2.7 except for a year @ 2.89 which is labeled as respectable.
These labels are not mine but those of paid analysts.
Two of his three years were years where injuries occurred and games played were lower.
I hesitate to call him a bad goalie but I will agree not one I’m comfortable paying $3.8m!


8.) 10 Jun 2022 12:44:09
Depending on what I’ve read and how I feel that day I flip-flop between who I think is the player we most need to trade.

I’ve taken Mrazek out of this debate because, for me, he is a given.

The two are Muzzin and Nylander.

Today I would say Muzzin because of his concussion history and his age. Sign Lyubushkin at $1.9m and you replace Muzzin’s physicality.

Now, Nylander’s offence remains and in a position where weakness exists. After Marner and Nylander who do we really have on RW?

But Nylander can still be described as a bargain. And did I say he’s an enigma and only plays with enthusiasm with a Swedish logo on his jersey.

Oh darn, let’s keep Muzzin and trade Nylander!

No, on second thought let’s move them both with Mrazek to Arizona and you fill in the return!

Okay, now I feel better!


9.) 10 Jun 2022 16:16:29
The collective outlook of mrazek is he's very injury prone. Going back to his Detroit days. I'm not sure he can go even half a season without spending some extended time on the IR.


10.) 10 Jun 2022 17:50:09
If you really look at Mrazek's career, it has progressed like many goalies that get figured out by the opposition. Mrazek was quite strong as a young goalie in Detroit. Pretty much each year though, his numbers climbed in a negative way. Once Detroit felt he was not their goalie moving forward, he spent a year in Philly that was a disaster. He had solid enough numbers in Carolina, but so has most goalies that have played there the past 5 years or so. The fact that Carolina felt they needed an upgrade this season on Mrazek and went with Andersen instead, should be a warning sign right there. His Toronto season greatly resembles his Toronto season. I don't expect much from Mrazek and he is difficult to play in front of as a defencemen because he is overly aggressive.
Martin Jones, Cory Schneider for example, have had similar career paths. The older they get, the worse it gets.


11.) 10 Jun 2022 19:28:06
I don't think we can look at Mrazek's numbers in a vacuum. Look at what Carolina does for every goalie. Raanta, Freddy and Mrazek all had issues until they became starters in Carolina.


12.) 10 Jun 2022 19:36:57
edit *His Toronto season greatly resembles his Philly season. *.


13.) 11 Jun 2022 00:01:13
Rears, love your post about Nylander and Muzxin.
LMAO.


 

 

27 May 2022 07:13:32
How does everyone feel about the John Gibson talk?

Personally I think it’s a great idea so here’s a prop.


Leafs Trade: Mrazek, Kerfoot, Holl (All cap dumps), Sandin, Robertson and 2023 1st

Ducks Trade: Gibson, Lundestrom, and Comtois

Not sure that Anaheim will want Kerfoot, Mrazek and Holl but they will not be contending while those contracts are still signed. Sandin, Robertson and a 2023 1st fits their timeline and could even possibly flip Kerfoot and Holl for picks. The only player that has negative value would be Mrazek but they would need a goalie if they are sending us Gibson.

Thoughts?

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 27 May 2022 13:08:27
For what it would cost the Leafs to acquire and Gibson's cap hit, I am not a fan of going after him.


2.) 28 May 2022 01:42:42
Normally I am against any trade involving Sandin or Liljegren but you have peaked my interest and have me leaning towards a yes.
Too bad Leafs chose Amirov instead of Brandon Schneider in the 1st round of the 2020 draft.
Schneider would have given Leafs a Sandin replacement (still on an ELC)


 

 

17 Mar 2022 21:00:00
Rumour has it that Lindholm is Dubas’s primary target.

Leafs Trade: 1st 2022 and Dermott

Ducks Trade: Lindholm 50% retained

I know that Dubas said he won’t trade a 1st for a rental but we don’t really have a choice.

Asking price for Lindholm is a 1st, mid level prospect, and nhl player

I say we do it.

Rielly/ Brodie
Lindholm/ Lyubushkin
Sandin/ Holl

When Muzzin is back we could try to flip one of the LHD to play their offside and see how it goes.

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 18 Mar 2022 01:18:34
Personally, I am against trading 1st round picks for rentals (think Foligno) .
Unless Leafs are able to negotiate a deal before the trade is finalized I would say no!
Not sure what Lindholm is asking for.
I have read that dollars are not the problem in his negotiations with Pat Verbeek and the Ducks.
He wants term.
Would he accept a deal like Morgan Reilly’s?
$7.5 x 7?
If he did how would Leafs fit it under the cap?
It would necessitate Leafs moving Muzzin.
Muzzin has a no trade clause and is from Ontario.
Buying out Muzzin may not be an option.
I have read that due to the front end loading of his contract, buying out Mussin still leaves the Leafs with 2 years at $4.9 owing and two more years with $690,000 owing.
If this is the case, the buyout option doesn’t work.


2.) 18 Mar 2022 01:54:27
Not interested in trading a 1st for a rental.


3.) 18 Mar 2022 03:18:52
Everyone keeps saying "don't trade a first for a rental" and I really don't understand. If a first+2 A+prospects for you Giroux and Klingberg, you say no?

Personally I think it completely depend son what you're getting back and how close you believe you are, to winning a cup.

If a top 4 RHD costs a first, I pull the trigger. Holl hasn't been and Lili isn't ready for top 4 minutes at all. Lybushkin is definitely a solid add, but he shouldn't be playing beside Rielly in a perfect world.


4.) 18 Mar 2022 06:59:45
@LL
I would say NO to a trade for Klinberg for a 1st plus Knies and Robertson. Same for Giroux.

Trading for this year ONLY is the wrong thing to do in my book when there are many other choices.

Send Mrazek and Nylander to Buffalo for Thompson and Hagg. Or to NJD for Severson and McLeod. Or Detroit for Betuzzi and Smith.


5.) 18 Mar 2022 13:47:20
If the Leafs are trading their 1st, it better be for someone with at a minimum another year left ie Severson or Chychrun, otherwise no thanks.


 

 

11 Mar 2022 17:58:32
Addressing our 2 biggest needs here, Defence and Goaltending

NYI trade:
Varlamov
Beavillier
Mayfield

Leafs Trade:
Nylander
Kerfoot
2022 2nd

Thoughts?

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 11 Mar 2022 18:23:36
Varlomov is not the guy he 3-12-1 his save percentage is better but I don’t think he’s the guy even at half retained.


2.) 11 Mar 2022 22:16:50
@L1994 I like Varlomov. With Beau and Mayfield coming back as well, I do this, but only if they take Mrazek.


3.) 11 Mar 2022 23:01:42
Varlamov almost lost his job in colorado to bernier, nuff said.


4.) 12 Mar 2022 01:22:16
OMG!
If Leafs are trading Nylander they should be able to get a far superior return to Varlamov (having one of the worst years of his career), Beavillier (9 goals, 15 assists, - 9), and Mayfield (-4).


5.) 12 Mar 2022 05:17:58
I think the reason Beauvillier and Varlamov are struggling is because of the season the islanders are having. Islanders are one season past being eliminated by Tampa in game 7 of ECF. I agree try to throw mrazek their way or offload him elsewhere.

Bunting/ Matthews/ Marner
Robertson/ Tavares/ Beauvillier
Mikheyev/ Kampf/ Kase
Engvall/ Spezza/ Simmonds

Rielly/ Brodie
Muzzin/ Mayfield
Sandin/ Lyubushkin

Campbell/ Varlamov.


6.) 12 Mar 2022 05:55:18
Did I hit a time warp? +- is the best stat we have to evaluate a player now? You had better not have been telling me Ron Hainsey was a bad partner for Rielly then.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2022 17:25:57
I personally don’t think Sandin will re-sign unless Muzzin goes. Left side is Rielly Muzzin and Gio and Sandin has made it clear he is not interested in being a 7th D. And yes I am aware that Muzzin has a NTC but Dubas needs to learn from Brisebois and say to him basically we facilitate a trade or on waivers you go. That 5m cap space would allow us to go after a UFA or make another trade for a top 6 LW.

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 18 Jul 2022 20:58:13
Is Sandin or Gio a top 4D right now? I'm not sure. That's the part that concerns me.

Personally, I like Gio, but I don't think he should have been signed unless it's as a 7th D.


2.) 18 Jul 2022 23:40:32
Well he may yet be the 7th or at least given consecutive games off!

I agree that Sandin is looking at LD and sees a congested lineup. He wasn’t happy not to play in last year’s playoff.


3.) 19 Jul 2022 04:02:58
Why not just trade Sandin at this point? You want to go all in, then let's do it.


 

 

02 Jun 2022 18:16:57
Looking deeper into the goaltending situation, assuming Campbell is set on his $5m AAV I think Georgiev is the most likely target.

Although I’m not sure I trust Georgiev to be a starter, he’s looking like the only option at this point.

Realistically it will probably cost us a 1st or 2nd to get rid of Mrazek having a Georgiev and Woll/ Kallgren backup. Moving Holl wouldn’t be difficult as he doesn’t have any negative value.

I would also love to go after Copp in FA. He could probably be had around $4M on a bridge.

Bunting/ Matthews/ Marner
Copp/ Tavares/ Nylander
Engvall/ Kampf/ Kerfoot
Simmonds/? /?

Rielly/?
Muzzin/ Brodie
Giordano/ Liljegren

Thoughts?

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 03 Jun 2022 11:51:07
NYR have 14 players signed and only $13.4 cap space. They need to sign Copp and Strome who I think will each get $5m so not much left.

Maybe they don’t give a QO to Georgiev and he becomes a UFA. Here’s to hoping!

You may be right on what Copp gets btw.


2.) 03 Jun 2022 23:42:31
Georgievs numbers were awful last year why would he be a target of the leafs.


3.) 04 Jun 2022 06:08:01
Why does everyone thing George is the answer?

Soup with a 60/ 40 split is the best option. It was the best option this year as well, Dubas just thought Mrazek (who saw that coming) was the solution.


4.) 04 Jun 2022 12:14:38
@L1994 and LL

At what price is Soup the best answer?

I don’t mind Campbell, in fact I quite like him but not at anything north of $4m. I think he’s worth a $2m raise.

Georgiev is definitely one possibility. He’s 26yo has played 129 saves games with a 2.94GAA and .907SV%.

These are not bad numbers. He also ranked 9th last year in saves above expected while Soup was 18th.

Other UFAs I like include Ville Husso, Braden Holtby and Fleury (only at 1 x $3m) .

Kuemper and Koskinen will be too expensive as UFAs.

Connor Hart would be a very good trade target as would Ilya Sorokin.

Maybe a little substance to your remarks would he helpful.


5.) 04 Jun 2022 17:46:11
@Rsears I have been saying for awhile I don't see anyone else available that takes less than 5/ year, that is as capable as Soup.

Georgiev is a bit too hyped to me, everybody seems to think he's the answer (in every fan base) .

Holtby and Fleury cannot be the ride or die moment in a cup contending year. I don't want either one to be my entire hope in a game 7 anymore. Flower more because he will hit a wall eventually, even if he hasn't yet.

Koskinen, nobody wants and Kuemper will probably be to expensive, agreed.

Sorokin isn't all he's cracked up to be sometimes imo.

As I said before, if you want to trade Nylander for a goalie, people like Hart become more feasible and I'm all for it.


6.) 04 Jun 2022 20:54:55
@Rsears not sure why the attitude though. You have all seen my post that no one else is available (imo) for the same price that's any better.


7.) 05 Jun 2022 13:01:26
Didn’t mean to be harsh! Apologies.


8.) 06 Jun 2022 01:05:39
As leafslife said the numbers Campbell has put up far exceeds what any goalie the leafs get at soups number georgiev looked like he was going to be something but his numbers last year show that he might not be it and as for guys like holtby and fluery they are well past their prime years stick with the guy that is great for you on and off the ice goaltending has not been the issue the past two playoff runs.


 

 

17 Mar 2022 00:11:37
Just want to thank Dubas for not giving up a 1st and a 4th for Chiarot!

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 17 Mar 2022 00:20:40
Plus more. Was thinking the same. Who pays that for Chariot?


2.) 17 Mar 2022 00:54:02
Gotta wonder if the leafs do much like ok at the price tags on two depth guys.


3.) 17 Mar 2022 03:05:17
@L1994 based on prices lately, I'm not sure if I even blame Dubas for doing nothing.

I will blame him because a RHD is a necessity, but I understand the apprehension.


4.) 17 Mar 2022 11:49:03
Dubas pretty much has to protect his 1sts and high prospects from rental trades as long as he refuses to move any of the big 4 or even a secondary piece like Kerfoot doesn't he? He needs cheap complimentary talent and depth every year because there is no cap space to add anything of significance. That's the way I see it anyway.


5.) 17 Mar 2022 12:15:19
I agree with everyone on this one. If that's the cost better to sit it out. I guess you have to look at the situation - Fla. feels like they have it all and they may be right, so good luck.


 

 

15 Mar 2022 03:46:01
Seeing as Manson went for a prospect and a 2nd at 50% retained.

Why wouldn’t Dubas offer that? Manson is a RHD that clears bodies in front of the net. A 2nd round pick with a prospect seems like a small price.

AlbertaLeafsFan

1.) 15 Mar 2022 10:11:58
I would say its the Toronto factor. Not everyone wants a mic stuck in their face 24/ 7. As hard as it is to believe, not everyone can handle Toronto, especially when all of us armchair GM's are trading away every player on the team.


2.) 15 Mar 2022 15:46:28
Leafs do not have a prospect like Helleson, which could be part of the reason and Leafs may have said no if Niemela+2nd was the ask.


3.) 15 Mar 2022 17:06:09
Pretty sure Manson had all of Canada on his M-NTC.


4.) 15 Mar 2022 18:58:43
@LL. Very possible.


5.) 15 Mar 2022 19:20:27
@RLF Friedman and CJ both commented on his unwillingness to come to Canada months ago. That's why I'm always so confused by the Manson trade props.


6.) 15 Mar 2022 19:21:42
I think all Canadian teams were on his list because of c.v.


 

 

 

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25 Jul 2022 22:45:48
Huberdeau and Weegar both said that they are completely open to singing long term extensions in Calgary. This would be more of a deadline move if Calgary is struggling to sign them.

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25 Jul 2022 22:44:44
Except the fact that Necas is definitely way worse than Nylander and the only way he goes is for a top 4 RD. Everyone is undervaluing Nylander based on his “soft” play but in reality he has the best contract on the team and is still just entering his prime.

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22 Jul 2022 20:11:46
Wondering if it would cost Robertson to swap Muzzin for Larsson. I think more like a 3rd and a 7th (OTT picks from Matt Murray deal) so then we keep Robertson.

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21 Jul 2022 22:02:04
I like the base but I don’t see why we would need our 2nd back and should just keep Robertson. If they don’t do Muzzin and Holl for Larsson we add a 7th.

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10 Jul 2022 19:43:55
Highly doubt Muzzin waived his NTC for Arizona.

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