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28 Jul 2018 14:36:26
Leafs
Kasperi Kapanen
Josh Leivo
Jeremy Bracco
2019 1st Pick


Nashville
Ryan Ellis

What does everyone think??
Too much?
not enough?

duggerhud

1.) 28 Jul 2018 15:44:57
An extension for Ellis would have to be in place.

I like the fact that we would be dumping contracts on Nashvillle. Not sure what their cap situation is or how many contracts they are carrying right now, but if Nashville would make this trade, it might be a good idea. Leafs can do worse than to pursue Ellis.


2.) 28 Jul 2018 16:46:21
Too much for Ellis and not sure if the Leafs will have the cap space to resign him.


3.) 28 Jul 2018 18:02:41
Leafs should have the cap space to re-sin Ellis if Gardiner and Hainsey are let go. We are also unloading a fair amount of salary in this trade by moving Kapanen.

Still, you make a good point and it’s one I’ve made myself several times. Leafs look as though they are going to scrimp on salary on the back end. Bringing in a high priced veteran is not our solution. Ellis will be looking for at least as much as Gardiner, and maybe more. We would be better off keeping Gardiner if we are going to pay that much to any UFA.


4.) 28 Jul 2018 22:16:47
Leafs have roughly $22m to devote to blue line beyond this year. Predictions say Ellis might be getting $7m. If that's true and u bring him in to play with Reilly, u have $12m left. Assume Zaitsev can have a better year and is worth his contract and u play him with Dermott, the money left for third pair and seventh d would be around $5m. Could work if Lilligren jumps in with say a Carrick.


5.) 29 Jul 2018 16:55:10
Way to much for Ellis. why trade Kapenen. trade Nylander. Kap is a two way player, Nylander sleeps after entering our zone. AND. trading away a 1st is a no-no.


 

 

20 Jun 2018 19:02:37
Minnesota Wild

Jared Spurgeon
Charlie Coyle

Leafs

Jake Gardiner
Connor Brown
Josh Leivo

Trying to think of different trades that might teams.
How does this work??

duggerhud

1.) 21 Jun 2018 02:04:54
I like it if Minnesota does!


2.) 21 Jun 2018 05:03:15
Would love to have Coyle on Leafs team. The guy’s a monster and can put up good numbers. Spurgeon is a little smallish for my liking, but there is no denying his talent.

I don’t think Minnesota makes this trade. Gardiner would probably fit well with Dumba. But Spurgeon is Suter’s right hand man, and trading him would leave Minnesota in the same situation we currently are in, weak on RHD (Dumba would be there only RHD), and heavy on LHD with Brodin, Gardiner, Suter.

The second half of the trade is Coyle for Brown and Lievo. Minnesota might be willing to part with Coyle, and to be honest, I would actually offer them less. Wild are still going to be tight against the cap next year. We could try to take advantage and offer them cap relief consisting of a package of picks/ prospects. I don’t know if Wild would accept that, but if we could get Coyle without losing a current roster player, would be worth it.

I really like how you targeted Coyle here. He would make a great addition to the Leafs if we could get him cheap enough.


 

 

11 Jun 2018 13:39:38
Carolina:
Garret Sparks
Kasperi Kapanen
1st in 2018

Leafs:
Noah Hanifin


Buffalo:
Ryan O'Reilly
Rasmus Ristolainen


Leafs:
William Nylander
Connor Carrick
1st in 2019
1st in 2020

Calgary:
Ryan O'Reilly

Leafs:
Dougie Hamilton


Sign John Tavares

Are these fair Value ??

I know this is a pipe dream but i think this would solve all the teams involved in these trades.
Some of these are others people trade ideas but i thought were good ideas.

What do we think??

duggerhud

1.) 11 Jun 2018 14:06:36
Zach Hyman Auston Matthews Mitch Marner

Patrick Marleau John Tavares Andreas Johnsson

Josh Leivo Nazem Kadri Connor Brown

Carl Grundstrom Par Lindholm Miro Aaltonen


Morgan Rielly Dougie Hamilton

Travis Dermott Rasmus Ristolainen

Noah Hanifin Nikita Zaitsev

Frederik Andersen Calvin Pickard.


2.) 11 Jun 2018 14:24:05
Sorry trade Jake Gardiner Matt Martin for picks.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 16:47:04
You just traded away our first round picks for the next three years.

The defense is much improved, but looks like an overkill. Each of those lines can practically be a top line.

The offense looks weaker, even with the addition of Tavares. You kinda killed our offensive depth to stack the blue line. I think you need a little more balance.


4.) 11 Jun 2018 16:55:34
That fourth line in particular is all rookies and would make me nervous as a coach. Including Lievo, who wasn’t even good enough to make the team last year, on the third line, just goes to show that you have virtually eliminated all our depth.


5.) 12 Jun 2018 00:39:34
I love that d corps.
You could have 12 mvp’s upfront and leafsgm would still find fault in it. Lol🤪.


6.) 12 Jun 2018 03:52:38
Carolina would be more than foolish to do this. That said they made Don Waddell their GM and he has not been known in the past for his astute dealing.


7.) 12 Jun 2018 06:21:03
Actually Hacksaw, I commended you on one of your trade proposals below. The Montour trade. I thought it was a good one. For some reason the administrator didn’t upload it.


8.) 13 Jun 2018 12:37:25
I don’t think we need 3 elite defensmen, only one on the right side to play with Rielly.


 

 

05 Jun 2018 15:30:33
Kings

Drew Doughty


Leafs

William Nylander
2018 1st
2019 1st

Sign Doughty

10 mill for 6 years

I think this year the leafs pick 25th and next year will be around the same.

I looked at all the other teams and most of the good team have 4 or 5 guys that get paid big money but 1 guy out of the 4 or 5 is elite d-man. Is this enough for Drew?? or too much?

duggerhud

1.) 05 Jun 2018 17:08:19
I think what you are offering is pretty close. Both in terms of trade value, and the contract you suggest, though likely is going to be a maximum term contract (8 years) .

If Leafs could pull the trigger on a trade like this, they should move on it. Waiting for Doughty to hit the open market could be a costly mistake. Is better to lock him up if they have the chance. It costs a lot in terms of trade value, but we are talking about one of the best (if not the best) defensemen in the world.

I guess this trade would all depend on how LA sees themselves come deadline time. Are they possible contenders, or are they going to need to start a rebuild? If they decide they are no longer contenders, moving Doughty is the most logical choice, as it would bring back a good number of premium assets and free up the most cap space.

Karlsson is available as well. Should Leafs fail to be able to land Doughty, Karlsson May be a second option. Though I would much prefer Doughty.


2.) 05 Jun 2018 17:59:02
The only issue would the 2 late 1st be enough?

I Agree it would have to be 8 years

I just hate 7 or 8 year contracts.


3.) 05 Jun 2018 18:24:58
How about sweetening it a bit:

Leafs trade Gardiner
NJ trades 1st

Then:

Leafs trade Nylander, 2x1st (2018), 1st (2019)
LA trades Doughty.


4.) 05 Jun 2018 23:00:24
Are you joking!?

Don’t get me wrong, Doughty is arguably the best the defenseman in the league right now. He’d also be 37 when your contract ends and won’t be worth that 10 mill cap hit for the last half of his contract.

Gardiner is no Doughty but he is worth more than a single mid round 1st.

The amount of assets you are giving up is a massive gamble. In the moment, 2x1st and Nylander would be a fair deal. It would seem extremely lopsided in 4 years if Nylander evolves into a 1C and one of those picks turns into a quality NHL player while Doughty is 33 and on a strong decline. When Toronto squired Kessel, it was at market value and a fair trade, at the time. As soon as I tell you we traded Seguin and Hamilton for Kessel the picture changes. 3x1st (with the one you added being the highest) and Nylander is an overpayment.

The leafs brass has said REPEATEDLY - we are not trading our future for a shot today. They want to build a franchise. This trade is against everything the shanaplan has promised.


5.) 06 Jun 2018 03:13:02
Good points SmileyReilly.

Athletes these days play a long time. Lidstrom, Chelios, Chara, just to name a few, were easily still going strong into their 40’s. I imagine Doughty will be too. But that doesn’t mean we should mortgage our future for him. If he hits the open market and we can land him, fair enough. But I don’t really like the thought of trading 3x1st, and a top line winger with the potential to be a stud 2nd line center.

When you bring up the whole Seguin/ Hamilton thing, it really puts things into perspective.


6.) 06 Jun 2018 11:07:58
You are bringing up Seguin 2nd overall and Hamilton 9th overall? I think you take a chance on Doughty.


 

 

31 May 2018 18:30:29
Toronto:
Kasperi Kapanen
Jeremy Bracco
Calvin Pickard


Carolina

Noah Hanifin
3rd rounder

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01 Jul 2018 18:52:02
Great news.

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28 Jun 2018 11:15:56
This can't be the real Brian Burke all these trades favour the leafs.

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14 Jun 2018 11:09:19
Not sure Keith is a good fit for that price. He is 34 signed for another 5 years.

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14 Jun 2018 11:04:26
I agree with LeafsGM and Hugh Allan i think there is a better deal then Tanev out there. If not let's keep what we have and stay the course.

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11 Jun 2018 14:24:05
Sorry trade Jake Gardiner Matt Martin for picks.

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