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12 Dec 2018 14:03:43
To Columbus:
Duchene, Dzingle, Timashov

To Ottawa:
Zaitsev, Holl, Brown, leafs 2019 1st, conditional 2020 2nd (1st If leafs make 3rd round) and a:
conditional 2020 pick from Columbus
*3rd if Duchene and Dzingle don't re-sign
*2nd if only one re-signs
*1st if both re-sign

To Leafs:
Panarin, Demelo

Panarin/Matthews/Nylander
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Kapanen
Johnsson/Lindholm/Ennis
*Gauthier
Rielly/Dermott
Gardiner/Demelo
Hainsey/Ozhiganov
*Marincin

themostleaf33

1.) 13 Dec 2018 03:44:45
Anyone going to comment?


2.) 13 Dec 2018 05:27:48
Sorry MostLeaf. Just was busy today and your trade has a lot of moving parts. Needed time to look it over properly. A lot of people like to post, but don’t give the time or thought into proper response. Lack of response can be discouraging for some. I always enjoy your posts. You obviously put a lot of thought into them.

I guess I feel it worth mentioning that you really aren’t giving Ottawa much more here than you offered in your proposal below, but they are sending out significantly more valuable assets. I think Ottawa can get a better return trading these guys separately. It’s also a little different than most proposals involving three teams in that Toronto is giving Ottawa the bulk of the return they receive, while our prize is coming from Columbus. But who cares about Ottawa anyway. Lol. Leafs are the only team that matters.

Let’s just assume these trades happen. Screw value or matching needs or salary or any of that other crap. Let’s just focus on the return for what we put out:

LOoking at the incoming players, Panarin and DeMelo, I can’t stress enough about how much Panarin would give to this team. Possibly the best LW in the game today, playing beside any of our three centres immediately makes him and those he plays with better. That top line you posted would be a 100+ goal scoring line if all three played together the entire 82 games. Probably the highest scoring line in the NHL this year. Panarin alone would be worth making this trade for, and if we were to exclude Ottawa altogether and deal directly with Columbus, they would have to seriously consider a deadline deal like this, assuming they don’t think they can re-sign Panarin. As a pending UFA and Columbus back against the wall, they either take an offer like this or risk losing him for nothing. Dubas may be able to take advantage. And if we could somehow re-sign him, look out, we would have hof team up and down the lineups.

Good job mostleaf. I always like your proposals. You think outside the box and that makes me see things differently as well.


 

 

12 Dec 2018 13:59:49
To Ottawa:
Zaitsev, 2020 2nd, Timashov, Holl
To Leafs:
Demelo

To Anaheim:
2019 1st, Rasanen, Brown, 2021 3rd, Marincin
To Leafs:
Manson

To NYI:
Stotts, 2019 3rd
To Leafs:
Filppula

Lines:
Johnsson/Matthews/Nylander
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Kapanen
Lindholm/Filppula/Ennis
*Moore, Gauthier
Rielly/Manson
Gardiner/Demelo
Dermott/Hainsey
*Ozhiganov


2019-20 Lines (Assumig no UFA signings and re-signings except for Lindholm)
Johnsson/Matthews/Nylander
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Kapanen
Moore/Lindholm/Grundstrom
*Gauthier
Rielly/Manson
Dermott/Demelo
Rosen/Liljgren
*Borgman, Ozhiganov

themostleaf33

1.) 13 Dec 2018 05:11:14
Demelo is out indefinitely with an undisclosed upper body injury. No word on nature of the injury or projected return date yet. Assuming he makes it back soon, I think Ottawa would have to think hard about this one. Is Zaitsev better than DeMelo, debateable. But he is cheaper, and I assume this trade is suggested with the premise of dumping Zaitsev’s contract. So the handful of futures you throw their way may be enough for Ottawa to take him off our hands.

Filppula trade I have a hard time seeing happen. Apparently Filppula hates Babcock’s guts and would never play for him again.

Manson trade I love. Not sure Anaheim pulls the trigger on this deal without a player of more impact than Brown going back their way, but hey, you never know. If Anaheim makes this, Leafs instantly have a much better defense without having to give up much. Very astute.


 

 

04 Dec 2018 16:14:00
To NYI:
Zaitsev, Brown, 2019 1st, 2021 2nd, Stotts, 2020 7th
To Leafs:
Pulock, Eberle

To Anaheim:
Pesce, Timashov, Holl
To Carolina:
Manson, Marincin, Rasanen, conditional 2020 2nd (2020 1st if leafs win cup in 2019 or 2020)
To leafs:
Faulk

Kapanen/Matthews/Nylander
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Eberle
Johnsson/Lindholm/Ennis
*Gauthier, Moore
Rielly/Faulk
Gardiner/Pulock
Dermott/Hainsey
*Ozhiganov

themostleaf33

1.) 04 Dec 2018 17:29:20
I like both these deals for Leafs. You’re bringing in something for this year (Eberle), something for next year (Faulk), and something long term (Pulock) . We unload Zaitsev’s boat anchor of a contract, and only lose Brown off the current roster. You’re lineups are outstanding. I especially like your third line pairing.

The Islander deal in particular is intriguing. I have a hard time seeing Islanders not trade Eberle. And Pulock of course can be made expendable what with Dobson and Wilde coming up.

Outstanding team here. It really is. Now if Dubas can get it all together. Go big or go home. Time to cash in those 1sts and bring home the glory.


2.) 04 Dec 2018 18:24:50
So we are giving up Zaitsev, Brown, some picks and spare parts for Faulk, Pullock and Eberle. Boy, if you can pull this off you should be applauded. I don't mean to put your deal down but you are trying to get rid of Zaitsev (who I agree is not worth his pay) and Brown (good player for the money) plus some low picks for 2 good defenders and a $6m forward. Does anyone believe this could happen. Thanks for keeping this discussion going.


3.) 04 Dec 2018 20:20:39
You are forgetting the 2 2nd round picks and 1 first round picks.

i WOULD keep Holl for next year for low cost ballast.

What are you doing with Gardiner for next year. Might as well trade him for a 1 st round and minimize your loss of picks.


4.) 04 Dec 2018 22:54:46
Leafs definetly got better after making these deals.


 

 

02 Dec 2018 21:25:43
To Anaheim:
Rasanen, 2019 1st, Stotts, Holl, 2020 2nd
To Leafs:
Manson

Ok, I know many of you won't like this next trade proposal, partly because it's between the leafs and a team in the same division as the leafs, but also because that team happens to be the Bruins.
However, Boston has a banged up blueline and could really use the help right now to fix it. Honestly, with Miller injured with only 2 years left on his contract, I think the leafs should pounce by trading Zaitsev+. They also need some center depth.

To Boston:
Zaitsev, Marincin, Gauthier, Timashov
To Leafs:
Miller

Marleau/Matthews/Nylander
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Johnsson/Kadri/Kapanen
Ennis/Lindholm/Brown
*Leivo
Rielly/Manson
Gardiner/Miller
Dermott/Hainsey
*Ozhiganov
We could play Hainsey with Gardiner and Ozhiganov with Dermott until Miller is back from injury

2019/20 Lines
Kapanen/Matthews/Nylander
Johnsson/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Hyman
Moore/Lindholm/Leivo
*FA
Rielly/Manson
Dermott/Miller
Rosen/Liljgren
*Borgman, Ozhiganov

themostleaf33

1.) 03 Dec 2018 03:42:09
The Zaitsev for Miller trade is interesting. Boston is in a world of hurt right now. With their Captain, Chara, and youthful sensation, McAvoy, both out, and now Miller down, they just might be in the market for a defenseman. I have questions about whether Zaitsev would be appropriate or not. Mainly, does Boston really want to take on a multi-year contract for what is only a short term situation? And do Leafs want to trade Zaitsev for someone who is hurt? Miller won’t be able to contribute right away. So we would be short on defense ourselves until he came back.

Zaitsev to Boston isn’t out of the question. Nothing is ever out of question. I’m just not sure how either team feels about this swap.


 

 

30 Nov 2018 02:37:03
To Anaheim:
Nylander, Marincin, 2019 4th
To Leafs:
Manson, Ritchie, 2019 6th

To Ottawa:
Zaitsev, 2019 1st, condiional 2020 2nd (1st if leafs win cup or Duchene re-signs, or both), Brown, 2019 7th, Rasanen
To Leafs:
Duchene, Demelo

Duchene/Matthews/Kapanen
Johnsson/Tavares/Marner
Marleau/Kadri/Hyman
Ritchie/Lindholm/Leivo
*Gatuhier (Nylander)
Rielly/Manson
Gardiner/Demelo
Dermott/Hainsey

themostleaf33

1.) 30 Nov 2018 04:03:17
I absolutely love these deals and lineups after these deals.

Good targets, fair trades.

Guess only question is, how much do Ottawa value duchene. I don't know the answer and won't pretend I do. if they value high this deal isn't close. if they value him low than you're offering too much. Somewhere in there I see a deal that can be made.

If Leafs get Manson I'm done doing rumors cause Manson is just 2 Sweet

Great Stanley cup team here. good job. good conversation.


2.) 30 Nov 2018 06:04:51
Absolutely not to that Ottawa trade

Duchene is UFA. Worth 1x1st + prospect/ player. But you are offering up 2x1st (one conditional) + 2 x roster players + Prospect + Pick

That’s way too much for Duchene, who would be accounting for about 90% of the value of this trade, as DeMelo sucks.

Our defense is strengthened, mainly because of the Manson deal than because of anything DeMelo brings.

It’s questionable exactly how much “more” Duchene brings to the table. His accomplishments have to be measured in consideration with what Marleau’s were playing that same position. I don’t see Duchene bring much, if any, more to table than Marleau provides.

Your lineups have a couple unique characterizations: Hyman replaced by Johnsson is the immediate one that stands out, and Duchene replacing Marleau too I thought was maybe a little different than expected.

They look good. Damn good team. It seems like too much to offer for these players, but when you look at the lineup, the team is obviously much improved.

I kinda like the thought of Gauthier as 4C between Leivo and Ritchie. That would be a good sized line.

Good one mostleaf. Lots of positive elements here.


3.) 30 Nov 2018 14:46:15
Anaheim doesn’t have the cap space to absorb Nylander’s contract this year. Manson would be great to have but that deal is not going to happen. There isn’t many teams that can take on his cap for this year.


 

 

 

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12 Dec 2018 23:47:53
I’m ok with both trades, although I kind of see Benning as like a short term solution until Liljgren is ready, and I guess we could keep him at a low contract so it would help with the cap issue. I don’t mind that one

The Simmonds one I’m ok with as well, but I don’t know if Philly does it unless they really want to make a move before Dec 19th. I just think they would ask for more.

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12 Dec 2018 16:57:05
Huge overpayment, Tanev and Grandlund both suck, and as you stated Gaudette is basically nothing.

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11 Dec 2018 04:21:52
The 1st or 5th option seems the most likely, and I would be perfectly happy with the first one.
This is just because Dubas told Nylander that he wouldn’t be traded as long as Dubas is GM, so Dubas would have to be fired for options 2-4.

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10 Dec 2018 23:56:40
Love it!
The Leafs dump Zaitsev's terrible contract while the salary being exchanged adds up to be almost even, so St. Louis could absolutely afford this.
I would assume St. Louis would want a prospect like Timashov or Engvall as well but otherwise, nice job.

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