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17 Feb 2019 16:59:29
This is not because of his hypocritical statement about the hurricane players last night. But I feel it's just time for don cherry to leave HNIC. Is there a more incoherent person on tv? I can't think of one.i think the show would be much better right now with brian burke on instead. Maybe not a popular choice for leaf fans but he'd be my pick

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15 Feb 2019 05:19:34
Leafs trade Brown,

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15 Feb 2019 03:10:55
Just getting a feel. would you guys be willing to move johnsson or kap, one for one in a deal for montour or manson (my choice)

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15 Feb 2019 12:32:42
I would trade either for either. Lol. Though I suppose we need Johnsson more, especially since Marleau will be gone after next season, if not sooner.

Anaheim probably wouldn’t do 1:1 straight up though is my guess. Leafs would have to add I’m sure.

Of the two, I myself like Manson better. But they are both excellent players. Which one do you prefer Betsy?

18 Feb 2019 18:43:01
I’m a huge Montour fan, I’d say he had the higher ceiling and fits the leafs puck moving better.

Kapanen is definitely the better player between him and Johnsson. Johnsson plays the position where we have less depth. Kind of a funny spot but I think we’d have to add to either player to get either defenseman. I’d have a hard time letting Kap go though because he is much younger and had more room for growth and a higher ceiling than Johnsson.

14 Feb 2019 16:16:26
I want to try again RE what is likely to happen. I'm just doing numbers.

If I assume Marleau stays and we keep Nylander let's look at numbers

Matthews-Marner-tavares-Nylander-Marleau-Reilly-muzzin-Andersen likely sticking around. I guesstimate at just under $60m

If cap is $83 and we hold back $3m, we have $20m to spend.

Bottom 3 d plus 4th line plus second goalie plus Kessel. What $8m?

$12m to spend.

Left we have Johnson - Hyman - brown - Kapanen - Kadri - top rd - 2rd. I'm guessing $14m before the two d. Add a Pesce salary. $18m. Add at least $3m for second pair. $21m

We need to dump $9m. For next year. The options are Johnnson - Hyman - brown - Kapanen - Kadri. Can't use d here as I don't believe we have the guys.

Not to mention Gardiner and Zaitsev. You
Want to keep Gardiner? Likely adding another $2m and over by $11m


Lose Gardiner. Zaitsev. Trade Nylander and brown. Save that $9m. Bring in Pesce and ferland for him. Brown for whatever

Put Matthews with Marner. They say tavares makes anyone good. Put Johnnson with him. Hyman with Matthews. Kapanen with tavares. Top two lines not bad

Marleau on third with Kadri. Add rw

Nylander and brown out.

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15 Feb 2019 04:40:35
Damn Jodes. When you break it down like that, it really is a cash crunch. I hate to see a huge number like $9M.

I suppose our best bet is a trade I’ve seen a number of times on here: Zaitsev + Brown + pick for a cheap depth guy. We promote Rosen and Liljegren next year and run with a cheap defense.

This is what I was referring to earlier when I said you were the whiz on this site at Leafs finances. You nailed it here. It looks bad, but I think Dubas will pull it together. He’s been impressive so far.

17 Feb 2019 00:08:19
Leafs GM

It's difficult to read trades for equal dollars in and out. They don't work. Salary needs to be dumped. But at same time defence improved. I just shake my head sometimes. For next year nothing else matters but numbers.

Trades are almost secondary. I hope dubas has some magic. This ain't going to be easy.

18 Feb 2019 18:45:15
You are missing a lot of key factors when determining the cap and your numbers are all rounded up. There is no denying we will be tight for cap next year but it’s not as bad as people say. We will lose Gardiner and sign both johnsson and Kapanen.

19 Feb 2019 00:51:55
I'm not missing any factors. U can round down if you like. It won't change much. They are way over. And it's not a debate. It's a fact.

19 Feb 2019 01:43:23
Prove your point smiley.

14 Feb 2019 00:37:38
Hi guys put post on here yesterday and was shot down on Kyle Clifford seems like Elliot freedman reporting leafs have had talked about a possible trade I am also say it will be Zaitsev going to LA as a cap dump with a 2nd to make for the cap hit.

Also this opens the trade with the canes of either kappy or Johnson for Pesce.

Clifford is and can be more than just a 4th line guy 9 goals this year more upside than what u have him credit for.

I for one think this is a good move adds what we lack and as for making our defence weaker adds cap space for the future contracts 4.7 out 1.8 in makes sense too me

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15 Feb 2019 04:45:37
I thought it was a good trade. I even defended it for you against one of the most astute contributors on this site (MarsBars is very intelligent hockey man) .

Clifford is LW, a position I feel we are weak in. With Marleau leaving end of next year, we need a solid guy like Clifford. I’m not sure he would be more than 4th line, at first anyway, when we still have Marleau, Hyman, Johnsson ahead of him. But he would make for a good depth guy that can be promoted in the event of injury or Johnsson trade.

14 Feb 2019 00:25:18
Is Zaitsev only as good as an AHL player?

Zaitsev and Alzner are very comparable players. I used this year’s stats, which is why the comparison is incomplete, as Alzner has a short sample size. But you can look at last year’s stats, and again, eerily similar. Both play over 20 minutes a night, average over 100 hits and 100 blocks.

Zaitsev

27, 6’2”, 193lbs, 0.12ppg, +1, 48.4%cf

Alzner

30, 6’3”, 219lbs, 0.11ppg, +1, 51.8%cf.

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13 Feb 2019 23:19:42
Thanks mars bar just read your post Am I on glue or are we the only ones who see this I feel Clifford cost us little as a pose to a Frendland move less money. same player and I will argue this till I'm blue and white in the face.and he's not a rental.can play center when asked this guy is definitely dependent in both ends and will put you on your ass when needed

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11 Feb 2019 03:27:52
I need to vent I do not understand what Babcock is doing the guy is too stubborn to change anything

If I'm Babcock and I see how well Nylander has been playing and see how Matthews lines hasn't Been much of a threat then why not but Nylander on Matthews line he doesn't have a set up man like Tavares and Nylander is that exactly who cares about our third line. Also gardiner needs to be put on the bottom pairing the guy looks slower then hainsey i would sit sparks out for a couple games and let hutch have a few sparks has looked shaken even tho a lot of the goals are not his fault if leafs don't pick it up who knows what will happen yes I know they won 4 straight but they haven't looked that good in those games

My lines would be

Kapanen Matthews Nylander
Hyman Tavares marner
Marleau-Kadri Johnsson
Ennis Lindholm brown

Reilly Muzzin
Dermott Hainsey
Gardiner Zaitsev

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12 Feb 2019 08:25:07
If you bring hutch up for reasons other than injury he needs waivers to go back down.

12 Feb 2019 13:36:08
I don’t think he would be claimed so it’s a risk I’d take.

10 Feb 2019 23:58:24
Tor gets
Anderson RW

Columbus gets
Brown RW

Tor gets
Ritchie LW

Ducks get
Bracco RW
Marchment C

Tor gets
Puljujarvi RW

Oilers get
Lindholm C
Gauthier C
Timashov LW

Toronto's Forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Marner
Ritchie/Tavares/Kadri
Johnsson/Nylander/Anderson
Ennis/Marleau/Puljujarvi

Toronto's defensive lines
Muzzin/Riley
Gardner/Zaitsev
Dermot/Hainsey
Ozhiganov

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09 Feb 2019 15:54:59
Just trying out some new lines that Babcock should look at trying.
Johnson Matthews Marner
Kapanen Tavares Nylander
Hyman Kadri Marleau
Ennis Gauthier Brown

Riley Muzzin
Gardiner Dermott
Hainsey Zaitsev

Hainsey and zaitsev usually play good together on the pk so why not try them out together

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