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11 Jan 2018 01:44:21
can somebody tell me why the leafs are not signing cody franson

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11 Jan 2018 15:32:31
Cody has played his way out of the NHL.

12 Jan 2018 02:24:58
hes better than gardiner.

12 Jan 2018 03:29:14
Leafs are at the 50 contract limit and would have to make a trade in order to free up a contract spot to claim him.

13 Jan 2018 06:59:00
@ clutch

Cody has become a defensive liability worse than Gardiner. He's lost a step. It happens.

13 Jan 2018 06:59:00
@ clutch

Cody has become a defensive liability worse than Gardiner. He's lost a step. It happens.

14 Jan 2018 21:00:25
no he's not a defensive liability gardiner is.
if we are the limit then we just get rid of carrick.

16 Jan 2018 21:50:54
Franson is big and slow. Just because you’re a right handed shot doesn’t mean you’re NHL worthy. There’s a reason why he hasn’t been signed.
Gardiner has way more offensive upside than Franson ever had.

10 Jan 2018 18:15:57
What do you guys think it would cost to trade up for first overall?

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10 Jan 2018 18:34:59
Matthews. Dahlin is supposed to be a franchise player, they’ll want one back.

10 Jan 2018 23:10:25
You don't think 2 firsts this year next years. A roster player ( gardiner) and a mid to high end prospect brooks bracco?

11 Jan 2018 14:32:10
Nope, quality doesn’t equal quantity.

12 Jan 2018 02:26:08
i say nylander, gardiner and a 1st should het the job done.

13 Jan 2018 07:08:06
The Leafs need to upgrade their RHD, move out some older vets and draft well.

The deals for the Vets could accumulate some 1sts and 2nds, which could then be packaged together for an upgrade in draft position.

If they want a shot a Dalen and the draft is weak, they need to trade into a more realistic 5-9 slot in the lottery. If they don't luck out three times, they still get a decent pick.

If you have faith in Hunter and crew, then that's not the way to go.

13 Jan 2018 07:08:06
The Leafs need to upgrade their RHD, move out some older vets and draft well.

The deals for the Vets could accumulate some 1sts and 2nds, which could then be packaged together for an upgrade in draft position.

If they want a shot a Dalen and the draft is weak, they need to trade into a more realistic 5-9 slot in the lottery. If they don't luck out three times, they still get a decent pick.

If you have faith in Hunter and crew, then that's not the way to go.

09 Jan 2018 03:29:07
Rating the Leafs defencemen over the last 2 games, IMO, from best to worst.
Rielly, Demott, Hainsey, Borgman, Polak, Gardiner.
Where do you put Gardiner when Zaitsev comes off IR? He is not waiver exempt.
The kid looks like a keeper, no more he can do in the minors, needs to stay and grow with the big club.

Leafs: Gardiner, 2018 2nd
NYR: Chytil, 2018 1st

Rangers need D help and scoring. Leafs get a good centre prospect that could challenge for the 3C job as soon as next year and a mid round pick.

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09 Jan 2018 15:11:43
I assume you mean Dermott.

He will go back down until a trade is completed for a RHD.

There is a log jam on the LHD, so the obvious candidate to go is Gardiner with FA and looking for a hefty raise in a little over a year.

I like the deal.

07 Jan 2018 18:14:10
How about(Given it's Peter Chiarelli):

TOR: Gardiner(LD), D. Moore(F), Fehr(C)

EDM: RNH(C), P. Russell(RW), 2nd

Contracts about balance out.

The Leafs get a center to replace Bozak and Chiapet gets another D to overpay for, but this time he gets some veteran forward help with the D, to help clear out the losers he has now.

Chiapet can start to dump his losers like Letestu, Maroon, Cammalleri, Slepyshev, Khaira, Strome and more on D like Russell, Fayne, etc.

There's a reason they suck, year after year - Bad Management!

Wow is their farm ever thin. Just look at the recent lame drafting.

2016: Jesse P. over Matthew T. It was an obvious no-brainer, but it skipped right over Chiapet's head.

2017: "Midget" Kailer Y. over a boatload of bigger and better players. Again, the obvious slid right on past; especially since he covets defence. Can you say Joseph, Jokiharju, Timmins, Hague, Lindstrom, never mind all the forwards.

Amazing they didn't screw up 2015. Oh wait! Peter wasn't there yet. He would have picked Strome.

Atta boy Peter! Destroy another team like you did the Bruins.

EDMONTON! Some advice free of charge - FIRE PETER CHIARELLI
- NOW! Before all is lost. It might already be too late!

I believe I said this last year right after the Hall fiasco(several times). Still the course of action required now.

And one more thing! Get a quality goalie. Talbot is not that goalie. How blind can you be.

Too late now to overpay for Fleury as you watch your playoff chances fade like Trumps chances of being re-elected.

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09 Jan 2018 02:57:36
We should stop picking on poor Peter and help him out with his next blockbuster trade, getting rid of all those top picks he likes to trade away (Seguin, Hamilton; courtesy of the leafs bad management: Hall, and Eberle) .

Leafs: Gardiner, Bozak
Oilers RNH, 2018 1st (because he'll only waste it or trade it later anyway) .

Too bad we can't include Burke to add to his management team.

09 Jan 2018 15:13:21
Agreed!

06 Jan 2018 20:12:15
Liljegren looks really good out there, nice and slick, creative, does what he has to do fast, and shows he can be a big offense for our defense with more development.
I have not watched Woll much but with the Leafs in front of him in a few years, I think he will be there starter after Andersen's time is done.

Rasanen WILL be a Maple Leaf with more development, he has top 4 potential but with NZ and TL he may have to play bottom pair but he is my fav prospect.
Lmfao Lias Andersson tosses his medal into the stands for not winning in the finals, imagine what happens when the Rangers fail to make the playoffs.
Gardiner would still be terrible in the world juniors, his defensive game has been brutal for years so now it is time to say bye to him.

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07 Jan 2018 20:29:51
Issue with Rasanen might be his in-illegibility for the AHL. He was playing in the OHL when drafted. So he may not get to the Marlies for two seasons (he's 18 now) . The 20 year rule is a stupid rule and gives advantages to the other leagues.

But after cleaning house this summer, the Leafs could also use him as the 7th D and train him here. They were willing to play Marner right away despite his size issues. Here, the size issues are for the other teams.

Or we ship him off to the Liiga, the SHL, or KHL for a year. I seriously doubt playing with the 16-19 year old's here, is doing him much good.

Gardiner has another year on his contract. Depending on the situation, that may be a plus in getting him traded.

05 Jan 2018 02:04:38
Speaking of douchebags, Heres a new low. Kadri ripping a handful of Thorntons beard out.
Wouldn't take off his visor to fight. Then grabs onto his beard for most the fight and pulls it's out.
Don't try to tell me he thought he was grabbing onto sweater or he didn't mean to. He knew exactly what he was grabbing onto. Handful of hair. Let go and find sweater. One of the Mose pussy douche things I've ever seen.
Similar to Burrows biting Bergerons finger.

Any Leafs fan think this beard pull is acceptable? How do you defend that?

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05 Jan 2018 14:26:24
This is not the right site for you lmao.

07 Jan 2018 14:53:31
First there is no rule against pulling hair. Why on earth do you think most fighters have short hair. Kadri was also grabbing his sweater which the beard overlaps, which is how it happened.

Second, Joe is a big player, and if he wanted to fight, he should have taken on Martin, not Kadri.

Third, if you want to have a beard, so be it; just don't whine about it, when it gets pulled, accidentally or not.

NOTE: I don't hear Joe doing that, just you! One of the more pussy douche things that's been posted.

03 Jan 2018 14:53:48
Treading Water.......

It would be pointless to be in the same position as last years team. The leafs currently have the same number of points as last year team.

IMO
They would be better off throwing in some rookies and losing a couple more games then mirroring last years team.

It's team to get rid of Bozak, Komarov, JVR, and Polak

Thoughts?

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03 Jan 2018 15:43:20
Agreed; the Leafs need younger replacements for all those positions. Excluding Polak, all of those players can get a prospect and a 1st from a cup challenging team or a bubble team that wants to get over the hump. Heck, Polak got 2nd a couple of years ago.

The rebuild just started, the Leafs have to continue the process. Rome wasn't built in a day. And the cup has never been won by an expansion team. (Although, Vegas is looking good) .

08 Jan 2018 22:29:57
I agree, continue with the rebuild. Get rid of Bozak, Komarov, and Polak. I might keep JVR if he re-signs at a reasonable price, otherwise, get rid of him. Kadri deserves better wingers than Komarov. Connor Brown deserves better than 4th line.
This team, as it stands, concerns me in the playoffs. I am a huge Leaf fan but as the team is now, I don't believe they can win a playoff round.
It pains me to say it, but I don't think they could beat the Bruins, Habs or the Senators in a 7 game series, even though those teams are not as skilled as the Leafs.

03 Jan 2018 12:26:13
Coach Babcock is an overpaid idiot of a coach. Reunite Connor Brown with Kadri on the second line. Move Marner to the 1st Line with Matthews and Martin. Second Line should be JVR, Kadri and Brown. Third Line should be Marleau, Bozak and Nylander. Have Hyman with Gauthier and Kapenen on the 4th line. And leave the lines alone. Bring up Dermott and demote Gardiner. Wave Polak and Marincin as they are a couple of useless pylons and replace them with players willing to hit every chance they can get on the backend. Stamkos should be suspended for life from the NHL for use of illegal supplements.

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04 Jan 2018 02:22:54
This isn’t even funny.

02 Jan 2018 02:10:47
Leafs trade komarov to tbl for Andre sustr. Trade JVR at the deadline to the highest bidder. Trade Gardiner, Carrick, Rosen, bracco, and 2018 first to LA for doughty. Or the same trade to Arizona for OEL. Lines would be. Marleau-mathews-leivo, brown-kadri-kapanen, hyman-nylander-marner, martin-bozak-sosh, Reilly-doughty, hainsey-zaitsev, borgman-sustr

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03 Jan 2018 03:59:08
why trade jvr?

03 Jan 2018 15:46:57
Why trade for Sustr? He's a free agent at the end of the season. Sign him then.

Any return you get for JVR should be picks, prospects, or a vet with term remaining on his contract.

To do otherwise is losing JVR for short term gain.

01 Jan 2018 17:37:15
TOR: Gardiner(LD); Johnsson(LW), Fehr(C)

DAL: Honka(RD), Faksa(C); Gurianov(LW), 2nd.

Suits the needs of both teams.

Dallas desperately needs a young veteran D (Gardiner), especially on the left side as Hamhuis is already 35.

The Leafs need a RHD, young and talented who can play in the NHL right now, hence Honka. Note: Honka doesn't have Gardiners offensive talent and he's still far from being a competent Dman.

Faksa is a better center than D. or T. Moore, Fehr, or Altonen. But he's a 3rd line center at best, and may be a value choice when the cap crunch hits us.

Gurianov is a project, but worth the small risk.

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