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10 Sep 2017 16:52:18
Forgot to add, at 3M per fits in nicely under Lupals LTIR.

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01 Sep 2017 23:18:55
This forward line-up may not come up until about late Nov. or early Dec. depending on how the team is working out.

At some point we might see the following:

Marleau, Matthews, Kappenan
JVR, Nylander, Marner
Korolev, Kadri, Brown
Martin, Moore, Hyman

By the way, over the summer there has been much said about either benching or trading Matt Martin.
Many of you criticize because of his puny point total when in fact that is NOT why they got him.

When Martin is in our line-up the other team takes far less liberties (physical play) against our young team. He's not here to score or even fight for that matter, he's here to offer a presence IN CASE he is needed.

Our team is very young and without any protection, will play far less physical whereas now, they go full out without fear.

YES, Bozak's name is missing - sorry Ty, I think you're a good player but we need to get Nylander into his natural position at Center and also keep Kapenan up with the Leafs - he's earned it!

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02 Sep 2017 18:05:29
first of all who is the guy on the left of kadri and also nylander won't play center.

03 Sep 2017 18:14:19
Lol. I noticed that guy too. lol.

04 Sep 2017 21:53:25
That's the late Igor Korolev. Died in the plane crash in Yaralavl in 2011.

RIP Igor.

01 Sep 2017 03:42:53
In an older thread a few of us had discussed the value of JVR, even drawing comparisons to Oshie and his newly signed contract as the template for JVR's next contract. In a recent article "Pucks In Depth: Three Players Likely to Regress in 2017-2018," by Todd Cordell, Oshie was one of the theee highlighted players. Cordell illustrated through advanced statistics how Oshie had played well above his norm for the 2016-2017 season, with a shooting percentage nearly 10% higher and "9% more than his previous career best. " Shortly after Oshie signed his eight year, 46 million deal. Based on that information Washington seemed foolish in signing Oshie to that much term. He's a great player but at already 30 years old, one will wonder what his offensive production will be like moving forward. History suggests a decline.

The Leafs need to be careful about whether to extend JVR beyond this season. If Oshie's was given 8 years, JVR's agent will be trying for a long term deal as well and there's no reason why he wouldn't get one.

It's a foregone conclusion that this is probably JVR's last season and anyone thinking that he's going to take a home discount (that would mean signing for similar to Oshie) is sadly mistaken. Make no mistake come July, some team is going to overpay for this guy and offer more than the Oshie deal.

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03 Sep 2017 18:21:46
JVR has many offensive attributes. he, however is not so good in the other side of the rink. It would be nice to keep JVR because of who he has been to the Leafs, but he is not effective defensively, and that is where Babcock is taking this team. as well as winning. I see him being moved.? . when I'm not sure.

30 Aug 2017 13:01:30
Sorry I hit send lol

Reilly zaitzev
Gards lilgjren
Borg/ dermotte carrick

We will have to protect lilgjren for a but once he hits the nhl but look for him to lead out defence in 2019-20 plus we will have 23 yr old Rosen (if he works out) and quite a few up and comers.

Trade jvr at the deadline when people will over pay.

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31 Aug 2017 04:16:34
hainsey?

31 Aug 2017 04:16:34
hainsey?

01 Sep 2017 01:24:04
So leafs just signed hainsey for nothing?

04 Sep 2017 04:13:54
Sorry should have been specific about hainsey. I think he will get the robidas treatment. Lmao this was a projection for next year. Also as for the last post I hit send by accident. That's why zaitzev is on every line. Hahah.

30 Aug 2017 12:56:58
I'm not a fan of trading jvr plus a bunch of pick or a dman and prospects. I think we should look at trading just JVR I understand we won't get a #1 dman for him, but jvr for a decent prospect would work. Maybe throw in a 2nd or third pick. The reason for this is our defence will be good in a year. Not great but good.

If all works out:
2018-2019

Reilly zaitzev
Gardiner zaitzev.

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01 Sep 2017 01:25:01
Zaitsev must have crazy endurance.

02 Sep 2017 01:24:11
If this is the case Zaitsev will be on the cover of Nhl19 twice.

02 Sep 2017 03:49:57
Hahahaha haha.

29 Aug 2017 09:25:46
If you look at NHL landscape it's easy to see which teams are in trouble going forward. The ideal situation is to have as many stars as you can between the ages of 24 and 28 that's prime. So we can see the shape the leafs are in fantastic. Teams that will live a nightmare soon are Ducks bruins kings Chicago and their ar more if you look age their tops players and years left on contract.

Then you have teams no direction Vancouver Detroit Florida Montreal when price falters it's nightmare, Ottawa buffalo. Also more teams in this catagory so it's really clear to see with cap management like brown signing how good the leafs will be for a very long time

Leafs trade JVR bozak komarov at some point this season

Team chasing playoffs future draft kicks we must make sure the draft pick drawer is very ful. Leafs can always get lucky in draft as they did with liljegren

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29 Aug 2017 19:29:02
@Davidmackin I agree with your post besides for saying Ottawa has no direction. This team is going to be very good for years to come. Last season post season run was not a fluke. However, I do agree leafs are in a better situation than them besides for a number 1 D man.

29 Aug 2017 22:01:29
Babsock

Ottawa have more than 14 million with two deadweight anchors the next many seasons bobby ryan and dion phaneaf and they can't eat those contracts on LTIR the way the leafs can. Don't even expect Ottawa to make playoffs they got lucky last year. If leafs met them in first round they would have been taken out.

02 Sep 2017 03:54:45
I think Ottawa is in the conversation for division champs this year, I think they have a direction it's jus an underrated one. They're good, sneaky good, through team defence.

27 Aug 2017 13:13:14
with the leafs having locked up brown to a reasonable 2.1 million a year. There top three lines are set.

Marleau Matthews Nylander
JVR Bozak Marner
komorov kadri brown


so the last 3 spots go to

kapanen
Martin
leivo
hyman
shoshnikov
rychel
Moore

so we have 7 players for 3 spots and 2 up stairs.

who gets them?

Martin Moore hyman


then leivo and rychel upstairs

kapanen and shoshnikov to marlies.

I feel like this the most obvious line up.

does anyone see it being different.

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28 Aug 2017 23:29:32
leivo and rychel marlies then sosh and kapanen stay.

29 Aug 2017 09:40:42
Captain hardheaded clutch

Then you lose rychel to waivers better to send down players waiver eligible.

03 Sep 2017 18:30:55
Cannot send Leivo and/ or Rychel. They would not clear waivers and the Leafs will lose them both for nothing.

27 Aug 2017 04:28:39
Browny in at 2.1 Mil AAV for 3 years - Great Signing Lou!

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27 Aug 2017 09:45:29
Yes that's a low number and I think leafs will try to get all future kids signed at reasonable price. Selling the idea that we can be good for very long time if each player takes a bit less.

24 Aug 2017 17:25:54
You didn't offend me at all goat everyone is entitled to their opinion. No problem if you didn't like the trade suggestion I have seen so many trades on here that favour the leafs heavily in my opinion this one was fair I have to believe a 30 goal signed winger would be in high demand and even though at 28 he is still in his prime.

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24 Aug 2017 06:25:33
can somebody please tell me why Toronto hasn't singed cody franson yet

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28 Aug 2017 20:25:16
He's gone to greener pastures, I think Russia or Europe?

 


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