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30 Jun 2019 19:04:44
Reilly to Carolina for Pesce and futures
Kadri anywhere for futures
Sign Gardiner for $6.5 long term
Marner for $10m
Brown for Benning (or another $2m semi veteran)
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-tavares-Marner
Moore-petan-Kapanen
Fourth line
Gardiner-Pesce
Muzzin-Dermott
Rosen-Benning
Reasoning- Reilly going to become expensive. Recoup picks if possible. Strengthens up right side and one more year for sandin and Liljegren to develop.
I don't want to trade Reilly but I don't want an overall crappy defence group. Brings certainty to the budget and allows us to pay the kids as they bring more value.
1.) 30 Jun 2019 19:35:27
Wow! This is just awful lol.
2.) 30 Jun 2019 19:51:21
I don’t know Jodes. You really think we should trade Reilly? I would rather just hold on to him than RW-sign Gardiner. I got a feeling I’m not the only one thinks that either. You might take some heat for this one. Lol.
3.) 30 Jun 2019 19:59:40
Nope. I don't. But this team is going nowhere. And I for one don't like Reilly at all. Over rated Imo. And buds why don't u propose something that fixes this Sh. defence. Because it's going to be ugly
But just for fun, why doesn't everyone roll the future salaries through then comment.
4.) 30 Jun 2019 20:05:44
So just to further comment, with the latest two signings and no changes, our forward group will cost roughly $57m. Nah we don't need a goalie upgrade so let's stick with roughly what, $7m in that area with Kessel. So $16m left for defence (and no I would not spend to cap) . So Reilly, muzzin, Dermott taking roughly $10m. Yep that $6m on the right side makes us contenders.
The fact is this team will win nothing as is. Go big or go home.
5.) 30 Jun 2019 20:53:19
I’ve studied te salary situation thoroughly. I know exactly where you are coming from. Really will be our 5th $11M player once he RW-signs in a few years. No doubt about that.
I’m on your side when you say we should trade Kadri. A lot of people on here disagree, but it’s either him or Nylander. Personally I don’t care which of those two go next. But I would rather have Reilly than either of those two.
I knew you were setting up something for further comment with that post. But I do have to ask, why do you think Reilly is overrated? Gardiner for sure. And prior to last year, I would have tend to agree with you about Reilly. Last year was a good one though.
6.) 30 Jun 2019 23:10:53
Jodes,
I would trade Reilly + Nylander for Slavin + Teravanian.
Leafs trade Kadri + Ceci + Hyman for Dumba + Stahl + Zucker
Than trade Benning + Sparks for Benning + Jujhar
Leafs sign Ennis $1 MM
Leafs sign Marner $9 MM X 3 years
Teravanian Matthews Kapenen $20.2 MM
Zucker Tavares Marner $25.2 MM
Johnsson Stahl Mikheyev $ 7.5 MM
Jujhar Gaultier Ennis $ 2.4 MM
55.3 MM
Slavin Dumba 11.3
Muzzin Benning 5.9
Dermott Rosen 1.55
$18.75 MM
Anderson Hutchison Kessel $6.9 MM
Leafs Salary 81.2 MM
Leafs great on LW and weaker on RW. Leafs stronger at Center, and smarter.
Leafs defense is now healthy at the top 2 defense-men for 5 years, and next year Leafs extend Muzzin for $5.5 MM. There will be plenty of cap room for next year.
22 Jun 2019 22:16:55
OK Marleau gone. Rumours of up to 3.5 for Johnsson and Kapanen. So here is what I see
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander-Hyman-tavares-Marner-Moore-Kadri-Kapanen and fourth line pushing what $56m or even a little more
Reilly-muzzin-Dermott-as three of top four plus two younger guys is another roughly $12 m. Goalies plus Kessel $19m. Total of $75m
Seventh d plus extra forward plus top four d man for. $5m
Zaitsev and brown need to go. No idea if acceptable but both to Vancouver for a Benning. Pure dump.
Kadri somewhere for another cheaper centre and a draft choice. Sign Gardiner.
Net of $1.5m add.
1.) 22 Jun 2019 23:48:22
Jodes
My version: Mitch has to sign at $10 MM or $11 MM
Johnsson Matthews Nylander $21.87
Hyman Tavares Marner $24.25
Moore Stahl Kapanen $ 7.2
Jujhar Gaulthier Petan $ 2.4
Total $55.72
Reilly Dumba $11
Muzzin Benning $5.9
Dermott Rosen $1.56
Total $18.46
ANDERSON McBackup Kessel $7.2 MM
Total :81.38 MM
Going Right up to the Cap.
Trade Kadri + Zaitsev + Woll for Dumba + Stahl.
OR
Kadri + Zaitsev for Jarnkrok + Spurgeon.
This leaves an additonal savings of $1.8 MM, so that the Leafs would be $79.55 MM
If Marner takes $11 MM, we are at the cap, if he takes $10 MM, TML is $1.12 Mm under the cap. Prefer Dumba long term over Gardiner.
2.) 23 Jun 2019 02:49:30
If we can manage that I will take it!
20 Jun 2019 13:49:02
OK something new. Not proposing we do this just wondering out loud
Marner to Carolina for Hamilton plus whoever u want to add. Results in:
Nylander back with Matthews (and Nylander looking cheaper and cheaper) and Johnsson roughly $22m
Sign Panarin if u can get him for $9m. Tavares, Panarin and Hyman together (don't care who plays where) $22m
Kadri, Kapanen and Moore $8m. Forth line brings us to say $55m.
Reilly, Hamilton, muzzin and Dermott top 4 at $16m roughly. Two young ones at $2m. Anderson plus another $7m
Brings us to $80m. The add in the trade prospects or draft choices based on these numbers.
Again not saying I would do it but team certainly isn't bad.
1.) 20 Jun 2019 13:52:59
Oh and Marleau and Zaitsev go for futures of any kind. Can also upgrade backup goalie a bit if needed.
2.) 20 Jun 2019 14:04:15
How about an alternate:
Trade Nylander for Hamilton plus
Put Marner at 10.5 with Matthews and Hyman. Tavares with Kapanen and Johnsson. Add Kadri and Moore and at $47m plus fourth line and at $50m. Still need third line rw
Defence still $18m plus goalies and at $75m with $5m to spend on that rw.
3.) 20 Jun 2019 14:14:21
How does that result in Nylander back with Matthews when Marner was playing with Tavares? And why trade Marner and not Nylander? Marner is a far better player than Nylander is.
4.) 20 Jun 2019 17:57:21
Jodes,
Trade Marner + 3rd Round pick for Hamilton + Tervainen
Brown + Zaitsev + Borgmann for Larsson
Marleau + Engvall for 7th pick
Leafs sign Lee for $ 6 MM
Tervainen Matthews Nylander $23.9
Lee Tavares Kapanen $20
Johnsson Kadri Bracco $ 8.3
Moore Gaulthier Petan $ 2.1
Total 54.3 MM
Reilly Hamilton $10.5
Muzzin Laarson $ 7.875
Dermott Rosen $ 1.6
TOTAL 19 MM
Anderson Mc Backup Kessel $ 7.3 MM
Total $80.6 MM.
5.) 20 Jun 2019 19:07:00
DBF
If u read the posts u would realize first of all thinking out loud. And that there was a second different thought. And I don't care who they trade at this point. I like them both for different reasons.
6.) 20 Jun 2019 19:08:08
Heat dreamer,
Doesn't look bad to me.
7.) 20 Jun 2019 20:39:14
Jodes
Marner + Hyman for Tervanian + Hamilton
LW - Tervanian, Lee, Johnsson and Moore
RW - Nylander, Kapanen, Bracco and Petan
A $80 MM team.
8.) 20 Jun 2019 21:13:12
Heat dreamer,
My only hesitation is Hyman brings some grit. We need some of that I think.
9.) 22 Jun 2019 12:09:13
If Carolina won't pay Aho and Faulk, what makes everyone think they will want Nylander or Marner?
20 Jun 2019 00:14:46
Honestly all of these people and numbers bouncing around are enough to drive u nuts
Just wondering out loud:
Sign Marner for 10.5 and Johnsson for 3. Your top two lines costing u $45m. Can u get Perry for $1m and play him with Kadri and Moore? Another $6.5?
Kapanen plus Zaitsev to Carolina for one of those right d. Top 4 reilly, Dermott, muzzin and Pesce (yes I love the contract) . $14m?
Add Andersen and at somewhere around $70m. Fill in d and fourth line with the best young talent we have
Hinges on Marleau. I don't care if we give up bracco with him to a team trying to get to floor and buys him out. Gets us under cap and I don't mind how it plays out
Marleau is the guy. Dubas has to get that one done.
1.) 20 Jun 2019 02:55:22
Good post Jodes. I agree 100%. I would like one more cheap D and a Ferland type player. Then we complete imo.
2.) 20 Jun 2019 17:40:19
For all you guys thinking Hamilton is the man, check this out. Game 5 of Stanley Cup playoffs vs Washington. OV scores as a result of Hamilton being a pussy. I love how OV does chicken dance after to mock Hamilton.
Is this a guy you really want on your team?
06 Jun 2019 19:13:58
OK lots of new developments with these guys so a few thoughts.
Marleau plus bracco to LA for Martinez.
Now I have no idea how far la will go or if there would be any interest or common ground but assume it's possible. Substitute as u wish
Kadri and Zaitsev to Carolina for Pesce: don't care about how this affects Carolina cap, they can figure it out. I like Pesce contract and term.
Here is why:
Top two lines with Johnsson and Marner signed cost 45 million roughly. Top four d roughly $17 million. Goalies and Kessel $7million if no change. Total of $69m
I would like to keep $2million in room. If cap is $83, they have $12 million left
Third line: love to see Kapanen and Moore together. Just think it would work. No idea on centre. Guessing $4million. Might be less
Fourth line: the new Russians? Petan? Again no clue but say $3million.
Leaves $5 million for last 2/ 3 d. Dermott and rosen? Call it $2m
Still need the third line centre.
Kadri a casualty. But 2 nice defenceman for top 4.
Fire away.
1.) 06 Jun 2019 19:28:38
Just an add. Muzzin and Martinez contracts due up soon. Gives 1-2 years to develop Liljegren and sandin. Combined with Dermott and Reilly could be a nice young top 4. Add Rosen. A good veteran to guide, costs wouldn't be terrible.
2.) 06 Jun 2019 19:45:49
Lots of questions coming though. Kapanen and Johnsson contracts likely 2 years or so. Hyman. There will be $40 million tied up in top 4.
On defence Reilly comes due. Dermott has one more year. Who plays bottom pairing if sandin and Liljegren in top 4
How about a goalie replacement when Andersen due.
Going to be very interesting.
3.) 07 Jun 2019 01:00:19
Rosen and Hollowell or Duszak would be my guess for the bottom pairing. Rosen looks ready to make the leap next year. Would love to have him on the team. And Duszak and Hollowell both excelled in their respective leagues this year. Duszak didn’t win the Hoby Baker award, but he finished with just two less points than Makar despite playing five less games. And Hollowell dominates the OHL.
Admittedly he is an older player in that league now, but still got to give credit where due. We have quietly built a real stack of highly effective young players that all look set to make an impact in the big leagues sooner rather than later. This is the most excited I’ve been about the Leafs in a long time.
One of the Winnipeg guys on here said something about getting used to having a cheap defense for the next four years, or something to that effect. I know he meant it as a ‘dis’, but it is accurate and I am more than happy to see these kids come in to the league over the next couple years and give us the flexibility to ice one of the best forward groups in the game.
4.) 07 Jun 2019 01:07:01
I don't think they are giving up bracco just yet.
5.) 07 Jun 2019 03:52:13
@Leafs1994
Instead of Bracco, what about Brown?
6.) 07 Jun 2019 12:51:14
I think if LA can fit it, they would take a prospect or Brown with Marleau for an offset. I doubt Martinez comes back, they will likely try and trade him at the deadline.
It's likely more of a dead weight contract like Lewis.
7.) 07 Jun 2019 14:01:42
I believe the leafs will try to get rid of Marleau without giving up their best forward prospect outside the NHL.
Also last I heard Carolina wanted Johnsson or Kapanen with Zaitsev for one of their RHD. I would be ok with that. I don't think they want Kadri though because they already have Necas, Stall, and Aho who can play center.
8.) 07 Jun 2019 22:21:24
The point to all this was to point out salary cap restrictions and possibilities. They need 2 good d. Propose another trade or two then. Kadri doesn't fit. He, Zaitsev and Marleau will be gone. Two $4m defencenen will come in. My prediction.
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25 Jun 2019 03:08:43
Well some quick thoughts here before a more in depth on rumours
If I assume Marner signs and becomes one of the big 4 and the fact we signed the other two means we are going to keep them, then along with Andersen we have $52m tied up. If I further assume fourth line, backup goalie and Kessel are naturally changing much, we have $4.5 more to add. So we have $56.5 committed
That leaves $23.5m to get to what I will call my Max.
That leaves the following players:
Hyman
Moore
Kadri
Reilly
Muzzin
Zaitsev
Gardiner (yes I am including him)
Dermott
Going out on a limb and saying they want the grit of Hyman and the cheapness of Moore on the 3rd line. Leaves us call it $21m
Kadri trade bait from forwards
On the defence side, would they look at signing Gardiner for $6m? Would he take it long term? Would he and Dermott be able to fill out top two left side d?
With Reilly likely demanding a significant wage on new contract and muzzin done in none more year, would they consider trading one or both to get two right d? Would Hainsey or someone similar be good
On the third pair with a young d?
Do they need a better backup goalie?
On rumours I will throw out trades RE Kadri, Reilly, muzzin, Zaitsev and add back contracted players that deliver good defence on the back end. They have $15m to play with on returned players. No idea if there are viable alternatives yet. Tomorrow's job
07 Jun 2019 22:40:57
I come on here every once in a while and quite honestly post things just to see what kind of answers I get. To judge thought processes. There are things we all know or should know
1) we are in a win now situation. This is not about 2 years down the road
2) defence as is we will not win
3) if we get rid of Marleau, Zaitsev and Gardiner and pay the expected salaries for Marner, Kapanen and Johnsson, we will be sitting at roughly $74m with $1m paid to 5 of the 6 players on the 3rd and fourth lines as well as 5 defenceman.
4) we need to set a couple million aside to account for example for an injured goalie. Etc
5) so we have $7
How on earth are we winning with that kind of lineup. Does no-one else think we need two $4m defencenen (number I choose for what I see as a good player) to help this team? And if that's true, that someone gas to go?
I in my last post wanted to see who else we could target to win now and got we shouldn't trade bracco.
If the goal is to tread water great. Or if everyone believes we should trade half the team fine. But dies anyone truly believe we are trading Matthews? Marner? Nylander? Reilly? Muzzin? Andersen? Hyman? Or that we want to trade Johnsson? Kapanen? Dermott?
If so great. Defence needs to be brought in. If no-one agrees all good, I guess I am alone. But the numbers have to work. And they don't.
I don't care about Pesce or martinez. But truth is I believe they need 2 at that price. Who then? And who goes without half the team heading out? They were close this year. Who knows what could have happened with a little help.
1.) 10 Jun 2019 18:00:31
Not Parayko.
2.) 11 Jun 2019 00:32:41
Lol PaRayko was never mentioned.
3.) 12 Jun 2019 07:53:05
He is always mentioned.
4.) 14 Jun 2019 20:49:32
Leafs should try and trade for Parayko or Trouba. Kadri would probably do it.
09 Mar 2019 14:04:26
OK let's try something different
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-tavares-Marner
Reilly-muzzin-Dermott
Andersen
Marleau
Call it $61m
You have $19m to spend and here are the tradeable assets
Nylander
Kadri
Brown
Anybody on 4th line
Zaitsev
Any other defence man
Sparks
Fill in the rest of the team for that $19m. The top list is untouchable. Have fun!
1.) 10 Mar 2019 17:50:34
Lol. That was a wasted post.
25 Feb 2019 19:55:46
I've been looking at this team and trying to figure out what dubas is thinking. Here is a guess
From defence point of view I'm wondering if they are just waiting. They have 5 potentially good defence men in Reilly, muzzin, Dermott, Liljegren and sandin. And I know not all draft picks work out but it sounds positive with these 2.
So for next year, I'm betting one of those last two is for sure up with the club.
1.) 25 Feb 2019 21:20:44
So next year:
Reilly-xxx
Muzzin-Dermott
Xxx-Liljegren
Seventh is whoever. But these 4 around 11m. Give or take. Now let's say we spend $20m on defence. Can Gardiner be had for $6m? Can Dermott play top pair with Reilly? Changes things. Maybe it will be:
Reilly-Dermott
Gardiner-muzzin (yes wrong side)
Xxx-Liljegren
Then it becomes a bottom pair veteran to guide Liljegren. Maybe sandin is your seventh (although I doubt it) . You could spend $3m on that veteran and be close to $20m.
Could this be the thinking?
2.) 25 Feb 2019 21:45:44
Actually they seem high on Rosen too. Which potentially makes it
Reilly-Dermott
Gardiner-muzzin
Rosen-Liljegren
Sandin.
Definitely within $20m.
3.) 25 Feb 2019 21:53:13
So if I just say $20m for defence done internally, goalies and Kessel $7m, we have $53-56m for forward group
Going to do 2 on each line and fill in:
Matthews with Nylander: $18.5
Tavares with Marner : $21m?
Kadri with Marleau: $10.5m
That's $50m. Fourth line energy line. I'd go more offensive with kids like Moore. But let's say $2.5.
At the lower range. With Kapanen, Johnnson, Hyman and brown left. Add
them we have somewhere around a $6-9 excess.
In this scenario, once again not working
Wish I could see in their minds. They sign Gardiner a few guys are gone.
20 Feb 2019 20:15:52
OK so when I look at the leafs, I see defence needs an overhaul. It's not good enough. I am going to try to bring it in at $20m or less for next year. See how it goes.
I see the following for next year
Reilly-xxxxxxx
Muzzin-xxxxx
Dermott-Liljegren
Sandin or someone else
So short top two rd. So for me, this year, I would trade for Pesce. And a guy like Jensen. Long term contract stability with Pesce and Jensen can stay or go next year. The total next year with second rd still open (Jensen gone) roughly $16m. Quibble over a few hundred thousand if u wish.
So for this year u have
Reilly-Pesce
Muzzin-Jensen
Gardiner-Dermott
Seventh
Zaitsev would have to go. Hainsey too. Which to me solves two big problems.
Question will be what it takes. Will explore that in leafs rumours. That and salary cap.
1.) 20 Feb 2019 20:34:50
In my opinion with Liljegren missing a lot of time i think he starts in the ahl unless he impresses in camp looking at potential moves I agree that hainsey and Zaitsev need to go but I think the player that will land us that top rhd will be kadri I mean it would be smart for the leafs to maybe downgrade the 3rd line center and get a quality defencemen weather it be Hamilton Pesce etc but this also depends on what the leafs sign marner Kapanan and even possibly Johnsson would love to see Lillegren and Rosen and Sandin get a look near the end of the regular season to maybe get a sense on what we actually have.
30 Jun 2019 20:05:44
So just to further comment, with the latest two signings and no changes, our forward group will cost roughly $57m. Nah we don't need a goalie upgrade so let's stick with roughly what, $7m in that area with Kessel. So $16m left for defence (and no I would not spend to cap) . So Reilly, muzzin, Dermott taking roughly $10m. Yep that $6m on the right side makes us contenders.
The fact is this team will win nothing as is. Go big or go home.
30 Jun 2019 19:59:40
Nope. I don't. But this team is going nowhere. And I for one don't like Reilly at all. Over rated Imo. And buds why don't u propose something that fixes this Sh. defence. Because it's going to be ugly
But just for fun, why doesn't everyone roll the future salaries through then comment.
23 Jun 2019 02:49:30
If we can manage that I will take it!
20 Jun 2019 21:13:12
Heat dreamer,
My only hesitation is Hyman brings some grit. We need some of that I think.
20 Jun 2019 19:08:08
Heat dreamer,
Doesn't look bad to me.
11 Jun 2019 16:58:23
U read all the time how superstars make the team. There is so little difference between 3rd and 4th line players that their impact on the game is negligible. The new Russians. Marchment. Moore. Petan. Ennis. Brown. Etc. Are any of these guys so much better than the others? Advanced statistics tell us no. And I think dubas manages that way. So I believe Kadri may be gone. Kapanen. They and Zaitsev / Marleau will be used to get our two d. My 2 cents.
11 Jun 2019 16:53:28
Agree wholeheartedly.
Hard to know what other teams are thinking obviously. Would Zaitsev and Kapanen get u Pesce? No clue. Would Marleau with a sweetener get u a guy like Martinez if la wants to lose that last year? No clue. But if they did, you have a top 4 d for essentially Kapanen
These deals can be found. And we are not trading 10 players like I see on here. It's ludicrous.
11 Jun 2019 00:32:41
Lol PaRayko was never mentioned.
07 Jun 2019 22:50:39
I love how they disagree but no comment. U are 100% correct. They need 2 good d men to play top 4 at around a $4m cap hit.
I tried Zaitsev and Kadri for Pesce but Kapanen can go in Kadri place if no-one agrees there.
Miller or Martinez from LA fit and might work as I believe they want to lose cap. I tried Marleau and bracco for Martinez. People said nope, not bracco. Completely disagree but for some reason people believe bracco will be a good nhl player. Shall see. Doesn't know how to play defence.
10 Mar 2019 17:50:34
Lol. That was a wasted post.