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06 Jun 2019 19:13:58
OK lots of new developments with these guys so a few thoughts.

Marleau plus bracco to LA for Martinez.

Now I have no idea how far la will go or if there would be any interest or common ground but assume it's possible. Substitute as u wish

Kadri and Zaitsev to Carolina for Pesce: don't care about how this affects Carolina cap, they can figure it out. I like Pesce contract and term.

Here is why:

Top two lines with Johnsson and Marner signed cost 45 million roughly. Top four d roughly $17 million. Goalies and Kessel $7million if no change. Total of $69m

I would like to keep $2million in room. If cap is $83, they have $12 million left

Third line: love to see Kapanen and Moore together. Just think it would work. No idea on centre. Guessing $4million. Might be less

Fourth line: the new Russians? Petan? Again no clue but say $3million.

Leaves $5 million for last 2/ 3 d. Dermott and rosen? Call it $2m

Still need the third line centre.

Kadri a casualty. But 2 nice defenceman for top 4.

Fire away.

jodes

1.) 06 Jun 2019 19:28:38
Just an add. Muzzin and Martinez contracts due up soon. Gives 1-2 years to develop Liljegren and sandin. Combined with Dermott and Reilly could be a nice young top 4. Add Rosen. A good veteran to guide, costs wouldn't be terrible.


2.) 06 Jun 2019 19:45:49
Lots of questions coming though. Kapanen and Johnsson contracts likely 2 years or so. Hyman. There will be $40 million tied up in top 4.

On defence Reilly comes due. Dermott has one more year. Who plays bottom pairing if sandin and Liljegren in top 4

How about a goalie replacement when Andersen due.

Going to be very interesting.


3.) 07 Jun 2019 01:00:19
Rosen and Hollowell or Duszak would be my guess for the bottom pairing. Rosen looks ready to make the leap next year. Would love to have him on the team. And Duszak and Hollowell both excelled in their respective leagues this year. Duszak didn’t win the Hoby Baker award, but he finished with just two less points than Makar despite playing five less games. And Hollowell dominates the OHL.

Admittedly he is an older player in that league now, but still got to give credit where due. We have quietly built a real stack of highly effective young players that all look set to make an impact in the big leagues sooner rather than later. This is the most excited I’ve been about the Leafs in a long time.

One of the Winnipeg guys on here said something about getting used to having a cheap defense for the next four years, or something to that effect. I know he meant it as a ‘dis’, but it is accurate and I am more than happy to see these kids come in to the league over the next couple years and give us the flexibility to ice one of the best forward groups in the game.


4.) 07 Jun 2019 01:07:01
I don't think they are giving up bracco just yet.


5.) 07 Jun 2019 03:52:13
@Leafs1994

Instead of Bracco, what about Brown?


6.) 07 Jun 2019 12:51:14
I think if LA can fit it, they would take a prospect or Brown with Marleau for an offset. I doubt Martinez comes back, they will likely try and trade him at the deadline.

It's likely more of a dead weight contract like Lewis.


7.) 07 Jun 2019 14:01:42
I believe the leafs will try to get rid of Marleau without giving up their best forward prospect outside the NHL.

Also last I heard Carolina wanted Johnsson or Kapanen with Zaitsev for one of their RHD. I would be ok with that. I don't think they want Kadri though because they already have Necas, Stall, and Aho who can play center.


8.) 07 Jun 2019 22:21:24
The point to all this was to point out salary cap restrictions and possibilities. They need 2 good d. Propose another trade or two then. Kadri doesn't fit. He, Zaitsev and Marleau will be gone. Two $4m defencenen will come in. My prediction.


 

 

26 May 2019 16:11:41
OK so going to start off by saying I favour small trades. The leafs took Boston to game seven with 2 d hurt and Hainsey and Zaitsev. And Kadri being out. So for me it's smaller adjustments

I like Pesce but let's talk Miller.

Miller for Kadri. Not concerned about who adds what. Let's start with that.

Then load top two lines and play them 20 minutes

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-tavares -Marner

These top two likely 45m

Third line 12 minutes. I'd like to see Moore and Kapanen together. They both skate and bring energy. So who can skate with them. Marleau is going nowhere. For 12 minutes and a veteran presence and because he can skate try him there. Looking at $10m for that line

Fourth line I say offence. But be cognizant of defence. Skate. Marchment brings size. Put petan in there. And keep brown to be the veteran helping on defence first

Total forward cost likely $58-59m

Play muzzin with Miller as shut down pair. Bring Dermott up with reilly. Easier for them as not playing top opposition. Rosen needs to come up. Bring Liljegren with if he impressed. $16-17m? You want to run and gun a bit? Do it

Trade Zaitsev for anything and likely retain $1m

Andersen-backup-Kessel us what $7m?

Looking at $82-84m so give or take a few bucks. Spend to the cap if that's the idea.

jodes

1.) 26 May 2019 16:46:24
Kadri for a #7 defenseman. Sorry an overpay.
Trade Kapanen for Pesce.

Zaitsev + Kadri + Brown
to Minnesota for
Dumba + Eric Stahl

Marner signs 2 years at $7.50 MM

Johnsson Matthews Nylander 21 MM
Hyman Tavares Marner 20.75 MM
Marleau Stahl Bracco 10.7 MM
Moore Gaulthier Petan 2.075
$54.525 mm
Reilly Pesce $9 MM
Muzzin Dumba $10MM
Dermott Rosen $ 1.6 mm
$20.66
Anderson Sparks Kessel $6.95
$82.13 MM

Room to upgrade and add Holl for .65 MM
and still be under the cap.


2.) 26 May 2019 17:42:14
@jodes

I like the Kadri for Miller trade. Miller is still a very damn good defenseman, and isn’t a 6-7. He’s a top 4 defenseman, and on the Leafs he would be playing beside Rielly. He averaged 20 minutes a game with Vegas last season, with very respectable numbers.

Just to nit-pick a little. If you play the top three lines as much as you suggest, then the 4th line will only be seeing 3 minutes of ice time a night. If that’s the case, Brown should be traded. At $2.1M a year for 3 minutes a night, it would make him the highest paid player in the league.

@heatdreamer

You really are a dreamer if you think Minnesota accept that trade. Actually, they had been making some pretty fantastic trades before deadline, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just continue to shed salary and trade players for next to nothing.

Wild just re-signed Staal, and to less mo eh. They are going to keep him. Rask would be the better “throw-in” for this trade. Rask has negative value, so attaching him to Dumba makes it easier pull for Wild to swallow dealing Dumba.


3.) 26 May 2019 23:16:27
Hey leafs GM

20 for each of top 2 lines. 12 for the third. 8 for the 4th.


4.) 27 May 2019 01:45:58
LGM,

I love to dream, I will give up the dream.

Zaitsev for Glendening

Kadri + Brown for Anderson + Savard

Kapenen for Pesce.


5.) 27 May 2019 04:24:30
@jodes

“These top two likely 45m”. “Third line 12 minutes”.


6.) 27 May 2019 15:48:08
You get probably get Miller for a much smaller price.


7.) 28 May 2019 11:02:14
@mostleaf

My understanding is the Vegas doesn’t have any cap space left themselves and are looking to dump salary. They wouldn’t want a roster player back right now, and their prospect pool is full. They have a whopping 10 picks in this year’s draft. So any trade for Miller will be non-roster prospect players and picks, not necessarily for this year either. So, you might be very right MostLeaf. It’s very possible someone could pick Miller up for future considerations basically. It’s not like he’s highly valued by Vegas’ management.


 

 

26 May 2019 01:11:33
OK last post doesn't seem to have gone through so I shall try again

The leafs fell to the bruins despite having 2 important D men hurt, a third line centre who can't behave and to me, some strange decisions.

Having said that, here is my trade and rationale

Kadri for Colin Miller (why not jump on the band wagon) . Not concerned about add-ons either way. These are the two main guys

Now why.

I read an article somewhere talking about loading top two lines: Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander and Hyman-tavares-Marner. Have them play 20 minutes each: cost of $45m give or take

Third line. I would like to see Kapanen with Moore. I think they would work well together. Speed. Energy. But who plays centre. Well Marleau isn't going anywhere and he can still skate with these two. So I say give it a shot. $10m cost

Fourth line: size marchment. Skilled centre petan. Responsible veteran brown. $3.5m? Go youth and a little skill. End this gauthier experiment.

Total cost us $58.5. Add goalies and Kessel $65.5m

Play Miller with muzzin as shut down pair. Put Dermott with Reilly. Bring Rosen up and I would like to see Liljegren. See what he can do. $16m. Trade Zaitsev and retain $1m.

Total cap hit $82.5 for those who want to spend to cap

$58.5 total cost.

jodes

1.) 26 May 2019 12:10:05
Not sure where that last line came from.


2.) 26 May 2019 16:26:09
I think the leafs are going to keep Kadri, and I think trading him for Miller is a bit of an overpayment, or at least that is what I have heard. I think the ask for Miller will be a 2nd round pick and a B-level prospect, but I'm not certain.


3.) 26 May 2019 16:27:19
Also the leafs signed heavy hitter Mikheyev and I think it was to replace brown, but we will have to see. Also Bracco is going to make the leafs, it's just a matter of what line he plays on.


 

 

04 May 2019 20:58:57
Thought I would try this: everyone comes back at expected values. Then start removing

Matthews-Johnsson- Nylander: call it $22m
Hyman-tavares-Marner: call it $23m
Marleau-Kadri-brown : call it $12.5m
Fourth line: $2.5m: total of $60m

Goalies and Kessel: $7m

Gardiner-Reilly-muzzin-Dermott-Zaitsev-Hainsey: maybe $23.5.

Grand total 90.5

I would like to see $80m. So get rid of $11m I will say

Goalies: good for now

Gardiner and Hainsey walk. Trade Zaitsev. That gets rid of roughly $14m. But need to replace. So u bring Liljegren up maybe. Get a Pesce. Get a reliable second pair rd for another $4m. That's roughly $9m. So in the end u save $5m.

We still sit at a number approximating $6m too much because yes, I don't want to spend to the max

OK so fourth line we don't touch. Leaves first three to pick from

Therefore trade one or more of Matthews-Nylander-Johnsson-tavares-Marner-Hyman-Kadri-Marleau-kapanen

1) trade Marleau for no cost draft choice: fixes but unlikely so no

2) trade Matthews or tavares: nope

3) yes can trade Nylander but they will want to build his value back up. Doubtful

4) I have no idea why they would trade Johnsson and kapanen

5) Hyman for the value he brings? Doubtful

6) Marner? Very doubtful


My opinion? Kadri and brown traded. I will say Pesce as return but choose another equivalent if u wish. Add as needed

Sign free agent second pair rd

Trade Zaitsev for nothing. That's a toughie

Move Nylander to third line center. Play Moore with him.

Marleau fourth line.

Really, really tough off season. Honestly if they can't do this, then we start moving Kapanen and / or Johnsson.

Failing that taking a bath on a Nylander trade.

jodes

1.) 05 May 2019 01:50:33
Maybe we will get lucky and a team in the West gets hit with the injury bug to decimate their d. If they need Zaitsev more than us, something could maybe get worked out.


2.) 05 May 2019 15:48:29
Who knows. I always enjoy the trade talk but I guess I'm one of the non fun people who only is interested in deals that are likely. I would love it if dubas goes nuts but I don't see it happening.


3.) 05 May 2019 15:55:18
And in my original number I had brown, not Kapanen. Adds another $1.5m. So would have to remove $12m. Therefore after defence $7m more to remove, not $6m.


 

 

28 Mar 2019 18:18:54
While I can appreciate the fun in talking about ten trades, the reality is this team is a few tweaks from serious contention

I believe one or more of the following will get traded: Nylander. Kadri. Kapanen.

Zaitsev and Gardiner also have to go but one walks and the other is a throw in

Here's why. Then the trade

Without those three, Matthews, Johnsson, Hyman, tavares, Marner, Marleau, brown, fourth line, Reilly, muzzin, Dermott, Rosen, Liljegren, Andersen, backup, Kessel will cost roughly $66m

For the purposes of this post again I will not go over $80m. They need room for emergencies.

I am going to add Parayko in. We are now at I believe $71.5

We need a top line right winger as well as a third line center. $8.5 available.

Minimal disruption: Parayko for Nylander.


Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-tavares-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-brown
Fourth line

Reilly-Parayko
Muzzin-Dermott
Rosen-Liljegren

Andersen-backup-Kessel.

Meets budget. Not much disruption. Immediately improves defence. Commitment to Johnsson and Kapanen.

I like Nylander. But muzzin will leave in one more year as well due to money. Then what. We need to look ahead.

jodes

1.) 28 Mar 2019 18:44:58
Maybe in one year Liljegren moves up to second pairing. Dermott moves left as his partner. Sandin moves up with Rosen. If that happened, at least for a short time, defence cost is around $14m before Dermott gets his raise.


2.) 28 Mar 2019 18:46:44
My question would be why Nylander unless Bracco can come in and be the set up guy for Matthews I’m not sure trading Nylander is a good thing the kapanen Johnsson Mathews line never worked when they were together yes they have speed but that’s it no chemistry together I don’t think you’re going to see Dubas make a big splash this offseason I think the main priority will be to get marner kapanen and johnsson all signed and if we can’t afford all of them then they will be traded I think once we loose marleaus cap hit we will then be able to make the moves to become a legit contender.


3.) 28 Mar 2019 20:32:45
Budget is a reality. Only reason. You can pick who u want. Could be Kadri and an add for Pesce. But run math after and tell me where we are.


4.) 28 Mar 2019 20:46:34
I agree with most of what you said. Nylander has to go. He is the softest player on the leafs maybe the league. Matthews needs a Marner type player, someone who can dish the puck to him. Right now Matthews is doing everything.


5.) 29 Mar 2019 00:22:27
Too bad Marner type players just aren’t available very often for reasonable cost eh Oldtimer? Lol.

My thoughts for defense:

2019/ 2020

Rielly/ Muzzin
Dermott/ Zaitsev
Rosen/ Liljegren
*Holl, Ozhiganov
(Sandin/ Hollowell)
(Rasanen/ Gordeev)

We could maybe re-sign Hainsey, which isn’t really a bad idea in my eyes. The old boy obviously still has good game and plays well with Reilly. All other vacancies will be filled from within. We just don’t have the funds for a big splash in free agency until 2020/ 2021 season.


6.) 29 Mar 2019 02:03:42
Well I understand that Marner has chemistry with tavares but:

Johnsson-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-tavares-Kapanen
Marleau-Kadri-brown
Fourth line.


7.) 29 Mar 2019 03:05:06
Leafs GM,

i Disagree as I explain above, I took the Jodes challenge.

Recognizing that Zaitsev has to be traded. Gaulthier + Zaitsev for Crouse from Arizona.

Jodes suggested Nylander, Kapanen, Kadri to be traded one or many
So I took them all. One final trade was sending Brown + Borgmann to Edmonton for Kassian.

Nylander gets you Ritchie and Manson.

Kadri + Kapanen + Woll for Jenner + Anderson + Nutivaara

These four trades plus one free agent signing of Ryan Miller.

Johnsson Matthews Anderson - $$16.4 MM
Hyman Tavares Marner - $22.5 MM
Marleau Jenner Kassian - $11.85 MM
Ritchie Petan Bracco - $3.15 MM
Total $53.9 MM

Reilly Manson -$9.1 MM
Muzzin Nutivaara- $6.7 MM
Dermott Hainsey- $2.35 MM
Total $18.15 MM

Anderson Ryan Miller Kessel $7.7 MM

Total Salary Cap for TML including Marleau is $79.75 MM

Under the $ 80 MMM CAP that was set by Jodes, and a much tougher team on lines 3 and 4 and a young scorer on RW and the Leafs get to play their young scorer on the main team, and if he doesn't succeed Trevor Moore moves up.

Finally the Leafs, have a backup goaltender with Ryan Miller or others.


8.) 29 Mar 2019 06:01:54
I really like this team you assembled here HeatDreamer. You weakened 3C for an upgrade on defence. In particular, by bringing in Manson. I like the idea of being back Hainsey for another year too. He’s better than either Holl or Ozhiganov for that seventh defenseman position, and is good RHD on any of the teams three lines.

Trading from position of strength to address an area of weakness is always a good idea. This would be the strategy most likely employed by the Leafs to try and obtain that coveted 1RHD they apparently so desperately need so bad (this is arguable in my opinion. Leafs have a very good defense actually) .

You increased the physicality of the team, and got rid of Nylander the great big jerk. I think the team overall is better. In particular a Reilly-Manson combination would really make the other team sweat. I could easily see Reilly teaching full potential with a partner like Manson.

I love it Heatdreamer. I really do.


9.) 29 Mar 2019 15:00:22
Ah. Finally some sanity.


10.) 29 Mar 2019 17:50:46
Blues are not trading Parayko to you. Not for nylander.


11.) 29 Mar 2019 21:24:51
Thanks for the in depth comment redwing.


12.) 30 Mar 2019 19:48:18
Any time. I feel the nylander for petro parayko has been beaten to death.


13.) 30 Mar 2019 23:54:50
Not sure I've seen it on here in some time. Still a valid point of discussion.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2019 04:52:00
Let the ducks buy him out then sign him for very little.

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07 Jun 2019 22:21:24
The point to all this was to point out salary cap restrictions and possibilities. They need 2 good d. Propose another trade or two then. Kadri doesn't fit. He, Zaitsev and Marleau will be gone. Two $4m defencenen will come in. My prediction.

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06 Jun 2019 19:45:49
Lots of questions coming though. Kapanen and Johnsson contracts likely 2 years or so. Hyman. There will be $40 million tied up in top 4.

On defence Reilly comes due. Dermott has one more year. Who plays bottom pairing if sandin and Liljegren in top 4

How about a goalie replacement when Andersen due.

Going to be very interesting.

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06 Jun 2019 19:28:38
Just an add. Muzzin and Martinez contracts due up soon. Gives 1-2 years to develop Liljegren and sandin. Combined with Dermott and Reilly could be a nice young top 4. Add Rosen. A good veteran to guide, costs wouldn't be terrible.

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26 May 2019 23:16:27
Hey leafs GM

20 for each of top 2 lines. 12 for the third. 8 for the 4th.

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