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16 Jun 2018 01:07:23
This is, without a doubt, the site that is the most fun to share hockey ideas on.

New trade of the day:

To Buffalo: William Nylander
Garret Sparks
Jeremy Bracco
Connor Carrick
2018, 1st round pick

To Leafs: Ryan O'Rielly
Sam Rienhart

Nylander would look great with Eichel and would perhaps give his brother Alex the support and confidence to become the player that warranted a top 10 pick.

Sparks gives the questionable Sabres goal tending depth and options.

Carrick gives Sabres youth and depth on the right side D.

Bracco is a potentially high end offensive prospect for future development.

Start the debate, save the abuse!
Thanks and enjoy the day.

Hugh Allan

1.) 16 Jun 2018 06:05:02
What would the lines look like for the leafs?

2.) 16 Jun 2018 06:34:30
If Buffalo makes this trade it would be because they are dumping O’Reilly’s contract.

Personally, I think O’Rellly is way overpaid, and a real pussy considering how big he is. He is consistent at putting up the numbers, so you can’t count on him to produce. Seems he nets right around 20 goals and 60 points a year. Which is just about the exact same as Nylander. But you are going to have to pay for it. $7.5M a year is probably significantly more than Nylander will be making. And, similar to Nylander, O’ Reilly’s focus on procuctiom comes at a cost to defensive. He is a liability in his own end. I would rather have Nylander, who will be around a lot longer and for cheaper. Buffalo wins this part of the trade.

Reinhardt is looking more and more to be living up to the expectations placed on him when he was drafted. The rest of the Leafs consist of a bunch of spare parts (Carrick, Sparks, Bracco, 1st) . All good players who we don’t have room for and will likely see playing time in Buffalo. It’s not exactly Leaf garbage for Buffalo gold, but it’s pretty close. Leafs win this part of the trade.

In the end, I would not make this trade. Without knowing how much Reinhardt is going to be signing for makes guess work necessary. Assuming he signs for $5.5M, then that means after you add in O’Reilly’s $7.5, that’s a total of $13M big ones for these two players. I would rather sign Tavares or Doughty or someone who is a real superstar at their position than bring in these guys.

It’s a pretty good proposal floated here, and one that’s both teams would need to consider seriously. A rebuilding BUffalo team would be receiving large numbers of assets, some of who are very high quality. Leafs bring in a couple very effective players, though at high cost to salary cap. May impede ability to re-sign other key team members or bring in free agents.

3.) 16 Jun 2018 06:42:00
*can* count on O’Reilly for production (20G, 60Pts)

That was a typo in my previous post. Not sure why it keeps doing that. Screws up the whole meaning of my sentence big time. Just read in context and it becomes apparent what I mean.

4.) 16 Jun 2018 09:18:48
Leafs lineup as of now

Hyman Matthews brown
Marleau kadri marner
Johnson Nylander Kapanan
Leivo Aantonen Grundstrom

Reilly Holl
Dermott zaitsev
Gardiner Hainsey


Lets see what leafs add the next two weeks.

5.) 16 Jun 2018 14:53:50
I feel like that 3rd line will be deadly.

6.) 16 Jun 2018 23:47:53

7.) 17 Jun 2018 02:40:01
That is ridiculous. With what the Leafs are giving up in this proposed trade, I would expect all of that. Eichel and Ristolainen.



10 Jun 2018 01:47:25
This is fun!

To the Islanders: Nylaner to play on Tavares right side. Jake Gardner to improve Isles defense and run their PP.

To the Leafs: Islanders #11, #12, #41, #45

This trade would show Tavares that the Islanders are willing to surround him with players that give him the chance to win now.

Leafs either draft for the future or use a combination of their multiple picks (11, 12, 25, 41, 45, 52) to acquire a RHD like Dumba or Hamilton and still retain the #12 pick to select Barrett Hayton.

Hugh Allan

1.) 10 Jun 2018 14:46:32
I like it Hugh
Although most of the pundits on this site hate that you are trading James Norris and rocket Richard.

Package a collection of the picks for a shot at Brady tkachuk. He would look awfully nice beside 34 and kapanen on rw
So yes I would take tkachuk over mr softie Wee Willy any day of the week and any chance to move the space cadet gardiner is a good move.

2.) 10 Jun 2018 15:34:40
Hugh. Without doubt you come up with the most innovative and entertaining trades on this site.

Basically, I think you have over complicated things here. It’s a lot easier to trade Nylander for RHD straight up and Gardiner for a 1st.

I’m sure Islanders would love to have both Nylander and Gardiner. Not so sure if they would be willing to trade out of the first two rounds in the process.

3.) 10 Jun 2018 16:57:27
Lol Leafs gm you are a piece of work
I like it Hugh ignore leafsgm he finds faults in every posting except his own
Keep the posts coming Hugh they are innovative and realistic than most including my own.

4.) 10 Jun 2018 18:47:06
That’s not true Hacksaw. I criticize my own posts all the time.

5.) 10 Jun 2018 19:44:13
I will give you inventive.

Don't think Isles would want to give up some many high picks in cap era.

If I am Leafs I would consider it. Have wingers to make up for Nylander but Gardiner does not "improve their defence" as you suggest.

PP maybe.

6.) 11 Jun 2018 02:29:18
Thanks for the feedback everyone!

7.) 11 Jun 2018 10:50:26

How do you figure Gardiner improves anyone defensively?

Check out the link below, it describes how Gardiner has been playing with 2 broken legs and a glass eye for the last 3 seasons (possibly 2 glass eyes in game 7’s).



09 Jun 2018 01:16:27
It's fun to read the many off the wall trade rumors and suggestions fans come up with, so I have one to post.

To Montreal: Nazim Kadri (to fill the Habs need at center) and Jake Gardner (to play the left side with Shea Weber.

To Toronto: 3rd overall pick, 35th, 38th, 48th, 61st picks (or a combination of any 3 of the 2nd round picks).

To Edmonton: The 3rd overall ((Oilers pick Zadina to play with McDavid and 2 of Leafs 4 second round picks.

To Toronto: The 10th overall pick and RNH (to fill the vacancy left by Kadri).

Leafs are left without Kadri and Gardner.
Leafs are left with RNH, 10th, 25th, and 3 of the 2nd round picks (35th, 38th, 48th, 52nd, 61st).

With the 10th pick Leafs take whoever is still available between Kotkaniemi, Hayton, Dobson, ?
With the 25th pick Leafs take ?. Or trade down with the Islanders or Rangers for 2 more 2nd round picks.
Leafs still have 3 - 5 second round picks two of which are the 35th & 38th to refill the pipeline depleted by Nylander, Dermot, Kapanen, Dermot and others moving up to the NHL roster. To

Have fun processing that one Leaf fans

Hugh Allan

1.) 09 Jun 2018 04:36:48
Congratulations Hugh. You have just posted the coolest trade proposal I’ve ever see . I am seriously impressed.

So, as a Leafs fan, the question is: would you be willing to trade Kadri and Gardiner for RNH and a couple extra picks.

My answer is no. I think kadri is the better player, and he’s cheaper. All those extra picks increase our chances of hitting a home run and drafting someone who will turn out to be a stud. But in my opinion, we can trade Gardiner straight up for an extra first. After that, all those 2nd round picks coming late don’t really increase our odds of getting a star much better than what they would be already.

I think this was the most entertaining proposal I’ve ever seen on this site. You’re thinking way outside the box here. I got to say I’m seriously impressed. Keep up the good work.

2.) 09 Jun 2018 05:55:44
Kadri > RNH. Their offence is comparable but Kadri is far better without the puck. And as LeafsGM pointed out - Kadri is cheaper.

This would value Gardiner at a 10th OA minus the difference between these two. Which is significant. We’d be worse defensively and softer. If you draft someone at 10OA you hope they turn into someone of Gardiners caliber. Gardiner is worth that 10th OA and an A prospect.

People hate Gardiner. I get it. I hated him after game 7. But the reality of the situation is that he is a near elite offensive dman who (in my opinion) should have played all 5v5 time on the second pairing with Hainsey. However. this still leaves that obvious hole next to Reilly at 1RD as Zaitsev is not even close and I think would benefit from some time on the third pairing along side Dermott.

3.) 09 Jun 2018 07:50:30
If Dubas did this I think I'd be pumped. Considering his M. O is all about finding "diamonds in the rough, " I'm very optimistic about how his drafting will turn out. Tons of picks for Doobs could be just what the doctor ordered.

4.) 09 Jun 2018 13:11:10
Gardiner sucks
Leafs sign DeHaan.



06 Jun 2018 03:14:46
To the Islanders:
Gardner to upgrade their D and run their PP.
Nylander to play right wing with Tavares
Leafs 2nd, #52
Leafs 3rd, #?

To the Leafs:
#11 & #12
#41 & #43

A trade like this shows Tavares the Islanders are trying to win now.
The Leafs get to stock up the pipeline with players like Barret Hayton and a RHD.
As well there are many excellent players in the 2nd round of this years draft.g

Hugh Allan

1.) 06 Jun 2018 05:40:07
That’s a helluva trade.

I like this idea. Fresh thinking.

Not sure how I feel about trading Nylander for a pick though. Gardiner for sure can be let go for a 1st, but Nylander is good for 8 years of high production. Would like to think that if we traded Nylander, it would be for someone who can contribute to the team immediately (Eberle maybe? ) .

Islanders are going to have a busy off season and just fired their coach and GM today. They are just getting started.

Good suggestion though. We would have a lot of opportunity with three first round picks and three second round picks to really stock up on prospects. It’s a highly original thought and I like it.



12 May 2018 13:09:06
A trade I think would work well for both teams involves the Oilers and the Leafs.

Leafs send Jake Gardner and William Nylander to the Oilers.
Gardner can provide the Oilers with something they are missing, a PP quarterback.
Nylander has the speed, skills and offense to play on McDavids right side freeing up Draisital to center the 2nd line. McDavid and Nylander have the potential to be deadly together.

Oilers send RNH and Darnell Nurse to the Leafs.
RNH fills a glaring hole at center as Leafs have only 2 proven NHL centers (Matthews & Kadri) signed for the 2018/2019 season. RNH has become an excellent 2 way player and would be a vast improvement over Tyler Bozak.
Nurse would add some sadly lacking physicality and bite to the Leafs back end and could play in the 2nd pairing replacing Gardner. Nurse has also displayed some offensive skills.

I believe this trade fills major needs for both teams and that's what a trade should do.

Hugh Allan

1.) 12 May 2018 13:26:40
Still doesn't fill the need we really need. A right shot D man. Not to mention I rate Nylander and Gardiner way ahead of Nurse and RNH. If we're losing Nylander it better be for a true #1 Right shot d man not another top 4 left shot d man that we have plenty off.

2.) 12 May 2018 13:27:15
Chia may be dumb enough to fall for it.

3.) 12 May 2018 15:47:21
I just hope dubas isn't dumb enough to fall for it. To even consider this edmoton has to add their first.




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18 Jun 2018 03:26:21
Nylander, Gardner and Zaitsev for Larsson and the 1st (10th overall) I would do even without the 2019, 1st.
Those are 3 of my least favorite Leafs.
Gardner and three 1sts I would not do as it removes the Leafs ability to keep building the team for the long haul and puts too much emphasis on trying to win now!
Only 1 team out of 31 can win the Cup each year. The rest go home empty handed.

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18 Jun 2018 03:21:22
Skinner and Faulk for a 1st (25th overall)?
Wow, wish you were Carolina's GM.
Maybe you are? Is your name Waddell?
Hamilton and Backlund for Gardner? Both Hamilton and Backlund are better than Gardner by themselves?
Including the rights to contracts that will expire (JVR, Bozak) on July 1st, that's one week from now (JVR, Bozak) adds nothing to either deal.

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18 Jun 2018 01:45:31
Matthews (a 1st line center) for two 1st round picks and two 3rd line players in Strome and Dvorak just doesn't cut it.
If you really want to trade Matthews (I don't) let's start with:
Clayton Keller
Jacob Chychrun
Lawson Crouse
2018 first round pick (#5)
2019 first round pick
That would perhaps be enough to get the talks started.

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18 Jun 2018 01:39:10
Couturier is probably 2nd only to Patrice Bergeron as the best, two way center in the League. Plus he had a breakout year offensively. Couturier is better than Nylander alone without the Flyers having to throw in one of their top defensive prospects.
I'm confident that Hextall is not foolish enough to agree to a trade like this.

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18 Jun 2018 01:30:10
Stastny will want more than 4 years and more than $5 million a year. Both are too much.
Trading Nylander for Ristolainin would be one of the biggest mistakes Leafs have made since the John Ferusen era.
Ristolainin is not a good defenseman while Nylander is a proven 1st line, right wing.

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