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07 May 2024 23:07:20
Just putting this out there.

Check out some of the other fan sites posts about possible Marner trades. Running hot and cold, but a lot of fan bases are salivating at the ideal of adding him.
Some of the proposals are wild.

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08 May 2024 02:33:58
That's because they haven't watched him for 8 years. Where ever he goes, he's going to avoid physical contact like the plague, and he won't get the same recognition defensively. He's extremely overrated in many aspects by Leafs media.

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07 May 2024 20:39:47
Marner isn't going anywhere, NTMC, same as Tavaris.
Best hope in trading Marner is to wait until trade deadline, tell him isn't going to resigned, get a list of teams he wants to go to ( hopefully in a playoff race) or let iim walk and get the cap space, same with Tavaris, that's a lot of cap space.

The player I'd move is Morgan Rielly, we need someone who has a bomb for a shot, on the point/ power play. But I'm sure he has a no moce clause also.
This year, sign defencemen and a goalie next year fill in the forwards,
This year doesn't matter

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08 May 2024 02:35:14
So, you can't move Mitch because of his NMC, but Rielly's NMC (which he just signed), won't be an issue?

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07 May 2024 01:24:27
Everyone around here knows how high I always am on Mo. I have to say, he was really disappointing.

One of the big differences in that Tampa series, was Mo using his exceptional skating to create chances.

As much as we all bash Mitch, I just have to point out, I'm not sure anyone outside of Knies, Domi, Woll, and Bert really looked good.

Benoit, McCabe and to some degree, Boosh on the back end.

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07 May 2024 13:31:34
Rielly didn't look right. He looked slow and not as mobile. Rielly, like the core keeps saying they should stay together when asked. At some point they have to start being more open to change though if they truly want a Cup more than keeping their friendships together.

BTW - Stupid question by that one reporter who kept asking each of them post game if the core should split up. Willy basically told him to F-off and I can't blame Willy. Not the time for that question within minutes after the end of a game 7 OT loss. I like the fire and anger we have been seeing from Willy lately. Will make him a better player I think.

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07 May 2024 14:20:03
@RLF I can't stand the media questions in general.

I think it was last year, when Drais was held pointless for 2 games and they asked (post game), "How do you feel now scoring". They always ask some asinine questions imo, so I mostly avoid listening.

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07 May 2024 16:07:29
LL. Some are just hoping to catch guys ticked off and let their emotions fly so they can say they got him to say that with their question. No, he said that because the question was emotion bating and he was already ticked off from losing.

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06 May 2024 18:41:38
Out of curiosity, based on a trade suggestion I put forward before jack Hughes was drafted would you guys trade, Matthews for Hughes hischier, and holtz. Mind you holt, could be different. Due to the trade.

Before Hughes was drafted, I suggested trading Matthews for hischier and the 19 and 20 1sts. The responses were almost entirely negative.

Just curious what people think now?

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06 May 2024 20:33:39
It worked out well for the prop because NJ sucked those two seasons and they picked 1st and then 7th overall. I have to be honest, I don't like the "would you now" on deals that were for picks that nobody knew where the team was going to pick in the future.

It's like the Kessel to Toronto deal. Of course since the picks ended up 2nd and 9th overall, I would have laughed at the Kessel deal. The thought was they would both be mid teens or worse picks when the trade was made and most weren't too concerned. People got mad when Toronto sucked and the picks ended up being high picks.

Now, If you posted that trade after Hughes was drafted, just before the 2020 draft when we knew NJ was picking 7th overall and the deal was Matthews for Hischier, Hughes and the 7th overall, I am sure some would have been thinking "maybe" at the least, if not yes. If NJ was picking 16/ 17 instead of 7th, it isn't as appealing.

A couple years ago I had posted something like Nylander to Buffalo for Tuch, Jokiharju and Peterka. I got blasted and told Peterka will never be an NHLer, Tuch is a 2nd/ 3rd liner and Jokiharju isn't good enough defensively. No way giving up Nylander for that. In this deal the players were already known, so it's different. I am sure many would take it now.

Anyhow, yours was a solid prop that turned out to be a blockbuster prop in the end. Kudos.

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07 May 2024 01:18:48
@Randy pretty much as RLF put it. The big problem with trades for futures is they could turn into nothing. That scares most of us. Mcdavid turned into mcdavid, but he could have also been another Nail Yakupov.

Until players are in the NHL (and even then), we really don't know what they're worth.

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07 May 2024 13:39:29
The funny thing is I did put that just before the Hughes draft. (Jersey locked in Hughes) The only one we didn't know about was holtz.

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07 May 2024 15:17:55
Randy. I get what you are saying. The point is that no one knew for sure how Quinn would workout. He has had his share of injuries so far and that is a concern. Also, didn't know where the next 1st (2020) would be in the draft yet. Would it be a top 5? 6-10?, 10-20 pick? Typically, outside the top 12, it gets dicey on how well these guys will work out. Jarvis went 13 and Mercer 18 in the 2020 draft. Other than that, outside the top 12 there are not a lot of budding top 6 forwards or top 4 D. Ironically Holtz may be a miss, but someone else may have taken Quinn or Perfetti instead with that 7th pick.
Like I said, it looks like a blockbuster deal now because of how well Hughes and Hischier have played and I am sure if you threw it out now, you would get some or many yeses. Let's not forget Matthews was considered a generational player. Hughes and Hischier were not. I'm still not sure I would make the deal tbh.

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06 May 2024 13:37:47
Off-season to do list:
Fire coaching staff and Shanny, trade Marner, resign JT to a team friendly deal, move Jarnkrok, sign a solid goalie to back up Woll (Ned from Pitts is my target for around 2.5M) Go after 3 solid RHD. I posted on the trade side as well but Roy, Larsson and Desharnais would be my targets.

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06 May 2024 15:21:15
Not sure about you, but I think Marner's value has really dropped. Yes, he is a 90-100 pt regular season winger with a ton of offensive talent. But, he didn't look comfortable playing a playoff style game. He typically produces points in the playoffs (not this one), but he likes it more wide open and free flowing. I am really not sure at that cap hit and expected new contract ask, what he is worth trade value wise.

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06 May 2024 18:26:45
@RLF we are not winning with him. We said the same thing about Nylander so we had to sign him. We just keep resigning these guys because the trade value isn’t there? So we lose a trade to make our team better, no? I’m not sure I get your train of thought here. Keep going with the core 4 because no one will give us the trade value we expect for Mitch?!? Of course not, we aren’t the only ones noticing that he doesn’t elevate his game for playoffs. The cap space is what is intriguing, so we can go get a guy like Roy in the off-season, anything we can get back for Mitch is a bonus.

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06 May 2024 20:13:06
Clarky. No man, I have said it's time to trade Mitch and posted numerous props to move him. I have also argued the cap space is the gold of it. I was simply (or maybe not so simply, my bad) saying I am not sure what you think, but I think his value has really dropped.

I don't think the return will be what some think and I don't think there will be a ton of takers even if he waives his NMC because of his cap hit and new contract ask he likely wants. Utah should be the most interested. Nashville, Detroit, Buffalo, Chicago for instance should all have interest, with Nashville being the most likely interest to Marner if he wants a chance to win now.

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06 May 2024 22:03:50
Well sorry RLF, I thought you were insinuating to keep him. Yes I think his stock has dropped. 8 years of being average in playoffs but wanting 11-12M. I think he is going to be humbled by his next contract offers because no one is going to give him over what he is already making. Those markets you mentioned and Seattle has money too. I would have to think Mitch wants out of here as much as we want him traded, he is not blind to all the negative talk about him. I can see him asking for a smaller hockey market like Nashville or Seattle but time will tell I guess.

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07 May 2024 01:20:48
Only way you get a solid return for Marner (imo), is to retain 50%. In reality, I would probably retain on Marner does the right return. I just don't see him as getting as much as Willy could have when he was making 6.9.

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07 May 2024 13:24:58
LL. I'm not sure on the Nylander comparison. Tree admitted he looked into moving Nylander and there wasn't a reasonable deal to be had. I think that mainly came down to Nylander's asking price on his next contract. He got $11.5M per from Toronto. I think it is safe to assume his ask was $12M+ per, which plummeted his stock. I see the same kind of situation for Marner.

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07 May 2024 19:54:59
@RLF That's a good point. Either they're traded as rentals for less value, or you need an extension.

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06 May 2024 13:31:25
My 3 D targets for the offseason:
1.) Aquire Larsson (along with McCann for ex. ) in a deal for Marner.
2.) sign Roy 4 years around 5M+
3.) Desharnais from the Oilers is a UFA. Would love to get him for around 1.5M for 2 years to play with Benoit on the 3rd pair.

Rielly Larsson
McCabe Roy
Benoit Desharnais- this D core can bring us a Cup.

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06 May 2024 13:02:34
Sorry, have to post this because I was looking to see if Dubas would like to re-unite with Marner. After looking at their situation, I had to laugh. I never liked Dubas as a GM(As you guys know) and I was so glad when Dubas was let go(As you know).

Pitt is one of the oldest teams in the League as we all know and only has $13M in cap space for this off-season with only 14 players signed.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHA

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05 May 2024 22:14:20
So a breakdown of this team

Want gone

Marner
Samsonov
Brodie
Gio
Bush

Want to stay

Matthews nylander knies edmundson woll domi Benoit

Has to stay due to money

Tavares

Don't really care if they are on the team or not next year

The rest.
Yes Reilly and McCabe included.

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06 May 2024 04:10:39
What's your problem with McCabe? He's been great.

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06 May 2024 12:26:45
No crap. McCabe was our best D in the playoffs and the leader back there while Morgan took the year off.

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06 May 2024 13:09:29
Randy. McCabe? Have to echo the others here. At $2M, how do you find better than McCabe? He's a warrior type logging 21 and a half mins a night and playing the toughest minutes. The pair of McCabe/ Benoit played the toughest minutes. Benoit was the weaker of the pair.

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06 May 2024 13:37:34
He just looked scared to play a game 7. I thought he was one of worst D in that game. I don't have an issue with McCabe, just don't care whether he's with the team or not. Could also just be salty towards him from his game 7 performance. He was on the fence for me for keep at all costs and don't care.

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05 May 2024 18:40:08
I would move Marner to Seattle. I’d try and get McCann and Larsson in the same deal straight up.

Marner gets a fresh start on a new team, I think Seattle is an easier sell he’d be the face of the franchise. Unlike a mess situation in Utah or going to a bigger market.

Trying to find somewhat realistic hockey trades. Brad has made them in the past Hamilton for lindholm and hanafin and the past one with tkachuck.

McCann can skate really fast kills penalties and can forecheck has a really good shot too which we need for the power play another 2 years left at 5 milllion flat and would solve 2C
Larsson stay at home shut down guy would be the best partner we’ve ever had for Reilly.

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06 May 2024 12:50:15
I don't see them moving McCann. He is their only real goal scorer.

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05 May 2024 10:32:44
Well in the bright side we should see some big changes I thought Sammy cost them the series game winner not his fault but the tying goal is just not and nhl goal and then on the game winner marners and Reilly watching the puck and their man blows past them and that's it folks. The fact that Toronto got that far in the series was crazy especially not having a power play goals and for some reason i will never understand why they wouldn't move off it is beyond me fire the entire coaching staff fire shanny send marner packing send Reilly packing Bertuzzi can go and even domi both were supposed to be these big playoff performers and yes they mixed it up but on the score sheet they were just as bad as the core

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05 May 2024 18:44:55
Domi and Bertuzzi were good. I don't blame middle 6 forwards when Mathews, Willy, Mitch and JT all make over 11m. You give forwards that much because they score. It's on them.

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05 May 2024 22:07:49
Also the winner was 100 % Sammy's fault. He had so much time to play that puck. He was just scared and didn't do anything to play that right. Others are at fault to for poor coverage, but that puck should have been gone as soon as Sammy saw pasta flying passed marner.

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05 May 2024 03:46:06
Leafs aren't going to win scoring 2 goals or less, bottom line.
Please trade Marner!

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