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15 Jan 2018 18:32:10
Offseason trade

If the Kings try to sign Doughty, but term and money are an issue, the Leafs could look to pry him away.

Doughty will have 1 more year at $7MM left, then likely seeking a deal in the $8.5 - $9M range.

To LAK: D - J. Gardiner + D - A. Nielsen + F - A. Johnsson + 2018 1st round pick + 2019 2nd round pick

To TOR: D - D. Doughty

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1.) 15 Jan 2018 22:34:00
I'm all for the Leafs exploring all options for upgrading their defence but that’s quite the price for one year remaining on Doughty. Would be nicer if they could negotiate a new deal for Doughty and then make the trade.


2.) 16 Jan 2018 00:35:18
It is a big package, but I think the Leafs would only make the deal if they feel they will sign him.

Could make the 2nd round pick conditional he signs?


3.) 17 Jan 2018 02:53:33
Doughty openly said he deserves more than pk I don't see toronto affording him.


4.) 17 Jan 2018 13:35:47
Too much for a rebuilding team to lose. Wait a year and a half and sign him as a free agent.


5.) 19 Jan 2018 05:58:29
Bracco+gardiner for gudas, 2018 1st, 2018 2nd.


 

 

14 Jan 2018 14:54:09
Of the potential rentals on the market, for price and what they bring, Gudbranson is not a bad option.

To TOR: D - E. Gudbranson

To VAN: 2018 3rd round pick + D - C. Rosen

He has not worked out incredibly well in Vancouver and something like this is decent value

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1.) 14 Jan 2018 16:15:04
I'm not convinced he's a good enough Dman. I think he's a pylon, and he's gotten more reluctant to fight every year (may be concussion related) . Definitely has no offence to speak of. Consistently bad +/ - figures on a good Florida team and with the Nucks.

The Panther were well aware of his problems and shipped him out first chance they got, for McCann a 2nd, and a 4th.

As much as the Leafs need brawn on D, I think they stay away from him.


 

 

31 Dec 2017 15:44:19
To STL: F - JVR

To TOR: F - R. Thomas + 2018 2nd round pick

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1.) 01 Jan 2018 00:41:02
Not too bad. Thomas looks like he's improved this year over last.

We could push for a 1st, rather than the 2nd, because the 1st will be late in the round.


2.) 01 Jan 2018 05:12:17
They already traded away their 1st. Could ask for another pick in 2019.


3.) 01 Jan 2018 11:30:00
If I am Leafs I would make that trade.

That would give them 3 2nd rounders this summer. Thomas would give them good upcoming center which they don't have.

Then I would trade Carrick, Leivo and 3rd 2018 or one of three 2nds for Tanev.

Carrick replaces Tanev for short term and Leivo adds to their younger players. They rid themselves of Tanev 4.45 contract for next 2.5 years. Trade helps nucks cap going forward. Truly they are rebuilding when Sedins leave. You hope Kapanen could step in for JVR going forward.

Oh yeah if nucks want to take Marincin for bag of pucks, I'm in.


4.) 01 Jan 2018 13:05:33
The 1st could be 2020; we just need to keep the quality of the prospects coming in, as high as possible.


 

 

08 Dec 2017 22:22:53
To put in context, I would argue that Doughty today is comparable to Pronger back in 2006. Although, I give a slight edge to Pronger.

Pronger(05/06) 80 GP, 12G, 44A, 56Pts
Doughty(16/17) 82GP, 12G, 32A, 44 Pts

The trade then, Lupul, Smid, 2007 1st, 2008 1st and 2008 2nd round picks.

For Toronto to come up with a package for Doughty, here is what I see going back.

To TOR: D - D. Doughty

To LAK: D - J. Gardiner, F - J. Bracco + 2017 1st round pick + 2018 1st round pick + D - C. Carrick

With a trade like this, the Leafs D core next year will be like this

Reilly Doughty
Hainsey Liljegren
Borgman Zaitsev
Dermott

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1.) 09 Dec 2017 00:10:26
Gardiner is match in age and contract term - although his value is about 50 - 60% of the value of Doughty.

That means Leafs need to add the equivalent of JVR (and (presumably because of impending UFA status, Bracco as inducement) .

There is no merit for TML to add a 1st.

1 Canadian for 3 Americans!

Kapanen should be with Leafs as soon as a pending UFA is moved.


2.) 08 Dec 2017 23:14:35
Take away 2018 1st and Bracco.


3.) 08 Dec 2017 23:13:11
Wasn’t Liljegren the Leafs 2017 first rounder?


4.) 09 Dec 2017 15:27:08
You're right, meant the 2018 and 2019 1st round picks. Just throwing a comparable top end D trade up with historical reference.


5.) 09 Dec 2017 15:51:04
Or just wait until he hits free agency and get him for cash only.


6.) 09 Dec 2017 20:31:04
But this way you have him 1 more year and for 1 extra cup run. Leafs are deep with prospects and young players and can afford to trade away some 1st round picks.


7.) 09 Dec 2017 23:17:14
Lets expand the trade
From Kings: Doughty+ Brown for

From Maple Leafs : JVR+ Gardiner+ 1st Round pick 2018+ Bracco+ Dermott.


8.) 10 Dec 2017 20:17:33
Bozak to Pittsburgh

Cole to leafs

Gardiner to the rangers

Chytil, 2018 1st, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st

Rielly Hainsey
Cole Zaitsev
Borgman Carrick/ Polak.


9.) 10 Dec 2017 22:59:37
Hyman-Matthews-Brown

Marleau -Kadri-Komarov

JVR- Chytil-Marner

Martin -Moore-Nylander.


10.) 10 Dec 2017 23:14:57
Harmonic got the Isles a 1st and 2 2nd, Gardiner would give the rangers a better option for that 1st PP and would allow them to trade stall, they'd have to retain a little but he is still an effective shutdown option for a contender

I'd actually drop the 2019 1st.


 

 

28 Nov 2017 18:04:28
To DAL: F - JVR

To TOR: F - A. Roussel + 2018 1st round pick* + 2019 2nd round pick
*top 10 protected (if top 10, then becomes a 2019 1st and DAL adds a 2018 3rd)

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1.) 04 Dec 2017 01:28:48
TO:

I would like the trade if you did the following.

Roussel is not that impressive.

Gurianov is big, extremely fast, and talented, and is currently slumping (convenient for us) .

I would make the trade:

TOR: JVR (50%), James Greenway (NCAA) (LD)
DAL: Gurianov (LW), Vala (LD) cond 1st (JVR Re-signs or it becomes a 2nd) .

The cap is close to balanced. (The Leafs can take on another minor league dump if it's not enough - say Mark McNeill C, RW; who's shown promise but can't break in like Leivo)

Dallas gets JVR to help them on a side that is weak after Benn, and a prospect in Greenway. JVR finally gets a good center to play with in Seguin. They can take a shot, in the West.

The Leafs get a good prospect in Gurianov, a long shot chance (for cap balance), and a cond. 1st.

It's fair return for JVR who's delivered every single year.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2018 13:00:27
Maybe there is a deal for Ekman-Larsson brewing. he's number 23 LOL.

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16 Jan 2018 00:35:18
It is a big package, but I think the Leafs would only make the deal if they feel they will sign him.

Could make the 2nd round pick conditional he signs?

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15 Jan 2018 18:23:31
If the Leafs are trading JVR to the Canes, it's to put him with his brother and look for another D-man coming back.

Justin Faulk would be the target, and if not, the Leafs would likely entertain an offer including D - J. Bean plus the Canes 1st round pick.

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09 Jan 2018 00:29:08
There are always a tonne of 3rd line C available in FA.

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01 Jan 2018 05:12:17
They already traded away their 1st. Could ask for another pick in 2019.

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