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18 Sep 2018 20:45:02
Just like most people (me included) were saying all year, Nylander's contract value should fall somewhere in between Ehler's and Pastrnak. Nylander is not nearly as good as Pastrnak and with the rumors of his comparable to Draisaitl, he his ludicrous.

1st - Nylander is not a Centre, he's a winger. Centre's tend to command more money. That is why Draisaitl got paid.

2nd - Nylander blew the opportunity to rise to the occasion without Matthews and in the playoffs and did not in either scenario

He should be so lucky to get the contract the Leafs will pay, as he gets to play alongside Matthews and/or Tavares now going forward.

If he doesn't want to stay on a team friendly/fair deal, then he'll find himself on another team.

Off season deal (potential)

To WNG: F - W. Nylander

To TOR: D - J. Trouba

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1.) 18 Sep 2018 21:08:30
Trouba would conmand like 7.5 mill is the problem though so I don’t think he is the best solution.


2.) 18 Sep 2018 22:25:53
At least he helps to solve a big gap for the Leafs, but I get what you're saying. That may not be significantly more than Nylander.


3.) 19 Sep 2018 01:13:44
If you think negotiations with Nylander aren’t going well, just imagine what the scenario next year with Trouba will be like. If Jets move Trouba, it will likely be only because they don’t want to have to go through the torturous process or re-signing him.

Leafs pass. Trouba is too injury prone and greedy.


4.) 19 Sep 2018 02:21:01
Nylander signs 1yr 13.25 million this year when cap doesn't matter and his cap hit is 13.25

Then signs 8x6.5 in January when eligible to sign extension

That's 9 years 65.25million . without the 7.25 cap hit

6.5 now That's a cap hit the leafs can work with.


5.) 19 Sep 2018 02:25:21
You are equating value to a number. Agents are equating value to a percentage of new cap. So Nylander may get more than we expect.


 

 

14 Aug 2018 12:49:36
At this point, the Leafs trading Gardiner for picks and/or prospects is not ideal, unless they feel Dermott can be that top4 D. If they do, it makes sense, because you can always swap picks and prospects again.

I feel good about Dermott, so maybe by Christmas you can trade Gardiner

To TOR: 2019 1st round pick

To EDM: D - J. Gardiner

Pick is not protected

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12 Aug 2018 16:15:17
Edmonton needs speed and a puck moving D-man. Edmonton is in a win now mode, they don't want to waste anymore years of mediocrity.

To EDM: D - J. Gardiner + D - J. Lindgren

To TOR: D - E. Bouchard + 2019 1st round pick (top 10 protected)

Torontobuds

1.) 12 Aug 2018 17:16:54
I think you’re robbing the cradle on this one. If Edmonton would be so kind as to make this deal, Leafs should jump all over it.

Why throw Lindgren in though if you don’t mind me asking? You didn’t explain how he fits in all this. Kinda seems like a pretty random throw in.


2.) 12 Aug 2018 18:04:42
I do value Garidner as either a top prospect + or a 1st round pick +, so that was why I conditioned the pick with a top 10 and added a D prospect back. Although, if that's too much maybe it can be a top 20 protected pick which gives EDM lots of value back, otherwise it would be a 2nd and/ or 2020 1st.


3.) 12 Aug 2018 19:06:42
If we are trading him without an extension in place first, I only expect either a 1st, or a high end prospect. I don’t see us being able to squeeze both for him unless it is from a team that is desperate for defenseman for the playoffs. I’d be more than happy if Leafs could get a top 10 pick for him.


4.) 12 Aug 2018 20:19:19
Oilers will not be trading Bouchard for a ufa Gardiner.


5.) 13 Aug 2018 16:04:04
Edmonton laughs and hangs up the phone.


 

 

05 Aug 2018 15:38:47
Philly is deep on D and Myers is buried in the minors and not likely to make the team.

The Leafs are deep on RW and the teams do a swap of prospects.

To TOR: D - P. Myers

To PHA: F - J. Bracco + 2019 4th round pick.

Leafs also toss in a mid round pick as Myers is slightly better valued.

Myers attends camp with a chance to make the team.

Torontobuds

1.) 05 Aug 2018 17:46:29
I like it. But I think Philly wants to keep Myers. Huge potential (undrafted too go figure)


2.) 05 Aug 2018 20:03:46
Torontobuds is right. Myers is buried behind so many good Philly defensemen, he will be a couple years away from making the team, if ever. I don’t know if this would be enough to land him, but if Philly says yes, Leafs should go for it.


3.) 05 Aug 2018 21:30:31
If possible, LEAFS should try to make TRADES outside the Eastern Conference - don't go helping out your competition.

Also, I think that Bracco (even though he still needs to grow) has potential of becoming another MARNER with his Skills, Creativity, and smarts.

I liked previous trade proposal for Montour but not so much for Myers.


4.) 07 Aug 2018 13:41:31
@Leafs_GM

Your advice for trading outside the conference is sound. But in this case, we are talking about a couple minor league players with limited upside potential for their respective teams. This is a depth trade that gives wither of the receiving teams a little more flexibility.

It’s not a blockbuster that will propel either team to become a powerhouse. I think it’s better to make a trade like this than to have either player waste away and eventually lose any value they might have once had.

Your assessment of Bracco is way off.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 13:24:06
How about this to help solve the RHD problem. Calgary is buying out Brouwer. Once he clears waivers, Leafs sign him to a 1 year deal

D - T. Brouwer 1 year $2.5M

Thoughts?

Torontobuds

1.) 03 Aug 2018 14:29:41
Lolol Brouwer is a winger bud.


2.) 03 Aug 2018 14:51:17
My bad, got him and Brodie mixed up.


3.) 03 Aug 2018 14:53:50
Brouwer also sucks. Leafs pass.


 

 

 

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18 Sep 2018 22:25:53
At least he helps to solve a big gap for the Leafs, but I get what you're saying. That may not be significantly more than Nylander.

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16 Sep 2018 02:38:07
No way Nylander get 3x7, if he's doing a bridge deal, it's in the $5.5M range.

Marner gets a 8x $7.5 deal

Matthews gets a 8x $11 deal.

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08 Sep 2018 02:33:14
Although I would do it in a heartbeat, the Jets would never do this. They don't need Sparks and not sure if they like the return of Gardiner and a 1st.

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02 Sep 2018 15:48:25
Still think that's a bit too much for that package.

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01 Sep 2018 04:48:39
Kadri and Nylander are the best players in both of those deals. That's why it makes the Leafs worse.

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