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17 Aug 2019 15:01:38
To NYI: F - A. Johnsson + D - R. Sandin

To TOR: D - R. Pulcok + F - M. Dal Colle + 2020 3rd round pick

With the Leafs swapping out their top LHD prospect, and sending a young winger signed for 4 more years they get in return a top 4 RHD plus a young player who needs a change of scenery

Torontobuds

1.) 18 Aug 2019 02:56:46
Then we would be entering the season with Dal Colle, Mikheyev, Petan. Moore as our LW. Basically, 4 rookies on the LW.


2.) 18 Aug 2019 14:25:29
Petan and Dal Colle are far from rookies, but I understand your point. The Leafs could dip into the FA pool and add a veteran LW if they want as they save cap space with this deal.


3.) 18 Aug 2019 16:49:09
Yeah maybe they can sign marleau right torontobuds?
👍🤪.


 

 

13 Aug 2019 13:22:07
To NYI: F - K. Kapanen + F - Y. Korshkov

To TOR: D - R. Pulock + F - K. Bellows

Bellows did not adjust as well to the AHL as the Isles would have preferred.

A swap of young players and prospects, lowers the Leafs Cap hit this season by $1.2M

The added value for the Isles here is Kapanen is on a solid new 3 year deal

Torontobuds

1.) 13 Aug 2019 14:04:18
This deal is pretty straight forward
speedy 20 goal scoring forward with an older prospect

for
defensive at best 2nd pairing dman but younger prospect

all of torontobuds points are bang on

this deal also forces wilde and dobson to speed up their development. that would be one of the reason the islanders say no but other than that the deal is pretty close in value

well thought out trade.


2.) 13 Aug 2019 15:03:13
The inclusion of Bellows might be a deal killer. As far as I know, NYI are still pretty high on him. Korshkov of course having such a bad injury riddled season, his value is lowest it could possibly be. So if Kapanen = Pulock, does Korshkov get you Bellows?

Pulock is a 2RHD that would be 1RHD on Leafs. A huge improvement over Hainsey nonetheless. I think he would make a great complement for beside Rielly.

This deal really does make a lot of sense. Both teams trading from area of strength to address areas of weakness. Craigger and TorontoBuds both make very good points here. If Leafs trade Kapanen, I would hope we could get a return like this.


3.) 13 Aug 2019 17:31:14
Thanks guys, I think the added value here is that Kapanen is already signed to a quality 3 year deal and is still an RFA when it's up. The Leafs will have to make decisions next summer on their D-line, included if they add Pulock
Barrie - UFA
Muzzin - UFA
Ceci - UFA
Dermott - RFA
Pulock - RFA.


4.) 13 Aug 2019 19:22:41
I think if you just do kapanen for Pulock it would be fine but if I’m dubas I’d want a deal in place with Pulock but I still think the leafs need to find that stay at home guy.


5.) 13 Aug 2019 20:59:16
I don’t think we would have any real hard decisions. Dermott, Rielly, Pulock are protected so we retain them. Promote Liljegren and Sandin. Let all the UFA’s go. Keep Harpur as he meets the minimum requirements to be exposed for the expansion draft. We have a couple other plugs we could use for depth or get a couple more UFA guys if need be.


 

 

12 Aug 2019 17:12:11
To TOR: D - R. Ristolainen + F - S. Reinhart

To BUF: D - C. Ceci + F - K. Kapanen + F - Z. Hyman + D - M. Hollowell

Cap In = $9.05
Cap Out = $9.95

Torontobuds

1.) 12 Aug 2019 18:01:49
Honestly I would prefer Kapanen over Reinhart, partly because Reinhart would likely end up on the 3rd line and while he probably can’t produce there, Kapanen likely can.

Ristolainen isn’t the defenceman we need. We have Barrie on the right side now. We don’t need more offensive defenceman. We need more of a rubbish down guy like Pesce.


2.) 12 Aug 2019 18:22:51
Personally I think Buffalo would rather keep letting Reinhart play 2C
than attempt to find a chemistry partner for Kapanen.

Ceci is a downgrade from Ristolainen and I don't think Buffalo values Hyman and Hollowell enough to make up differance. again, just my opinion as for all i know Buffalo could love this deal. I just don't think they would.

I have no clue how Ristro and Reinhart are valued by the Leafs but i think its something to ponder.


3.) 12 Aug 2019 18:37:58
I meant to say shut down guy, not sure where rubbish came from.


4.) 12 Aug 2019 18:56:07
good points themostleaf33.i think both sides might pass on this kind of deal.


5.) 12 Aug 2019 21:07:45
Ya I agree.


6.) 13 Aug 2019 00:00:03
Buffalo doesn’t need Ceci or Hollowell. They have enough RHD for now. And I’m going to assume they value Reinhart more than the combination of Kapanen + Hyman.

Buffalo gives up the two best players in this deal. Which is probably enough to kill the deal. The strong get stronger and the weak get weaker.


7.) 13 Aug 2019 02:03:36
Really bad.


 

 

02 Aug 2019 12:11:49
Minor deal

To WNG: D - J. Holl + 2020 6th round pick

To TOR: 2020 3rd round pick

Then sign D - M. Stone to a 1 year $700K deal for depth

Stone will have an opportunity to compete with Ceci for 2nd pair minutes

Torontobuds

1.) 02 Aug 2019 12:19:13
Forgot to add, 2 other reasons for this. Babcock does not seem to have trust in Holl and the Leafs can upgrade their pick. The Leafs have lots of picks in 2020, but mostly in the 6th and 7th round. Leafs could add another back end pick if needed to move up.


2.) 02 Aug 2019 12:27:00
I agree, Holl is not a babcock guy. Maybe Pittsburgh will want him as he is best buds with Bjustad and Shultz. I know that means nothing in the NHL where your buddies are but hey its worth a try.

The only thing I don't agree with is the value for Holl. Holl for a 7th rounder at best. If leafs want a higher pick for him they will have to give up the next round pick for him.

Stone is worth the low risk low reward. give him a PTO and that's it. If he makes it great if not he just gets released from his PTO.


3.) 02 Aug 2019 13:22:59
Holl might be able to upgrade a 5th to a 4th but not much beyond that. The target iant a bad chalice either, you could also debate on sending him to vegas, Vancouver, or Usain him as an insurance policy when the expansion draft happens (probably most likely scenario)


4.) 02 Aug 2019 14:03:10
Ok fair. The Leafs do have 2 4th round picks and could pick swap with that. I just look at the draft that the Leafs do not need to pick 10 players.


5.) 02 Aug 2019 18:17:22
Do Leafs really need any more depth guys though? We just signed so many of them. I can’t even keep up with the signings. I think at this point, it’s go gong or go home. There’s just nothing left but the Marner situation.


6.) 02 Aug 2019 23:29:34
Agree with leafgm.7 signed guys who i can't remember all them at once worth the life of me. let alone those europesn league guys they signed. geesh. lol.


7.) 03 Aug 2019 12:08:16
Yes I agree with you, way too many, most are destined for the Marlies. Apparently, it's because the Leafs organization actually wants to pay their minor league players a reasonable salary.

This is more clear out a player that is not in favour with the coach for someone who could comppete.


 

 

23 Jul 2019 17:11:56
To EDM: F - A. Johnsson + D - T. Liljegren

To TOR: F. Z. Kassian + D - E. Bouchard

Edmonton adds speed for grit and a swap of D prospects.

New GM Holland does love Swedish Dmen

Torontobuds

1.) 23 Jul 2019 18:16:08
So does Dubas. Lol. Johnsson is worth more than Kassian, and Bouchard fails to make up the difference ce.

(Johnsson - Kassian) > (Bouchard - Liljegren) .

You have the right idea taking a downgrade at one position to upgrade the other. But Bouchard is still a prospect. We need guys who can play now. In the long run, Leafs might win this trade depending on how Bouchard and Liljegren work out. In the short term it weakens us.


2.) 23 Jul 2019 21:32:15
Thanks and I agree that Johnsson is better than Kassian. The real meat is what I feel is a better, bigger Dman in Bouchard.

That being said, the move projected was also to clear up $1.4M in cap space for this season

Maybe Edmonton adds another pick and/ or prospect, like add a 3rd to the deal?


3.) 24 Jul 2019 00:06:55
I don’t think any pick would make Dubas do this deal. It weakens is short term. Kassian is a big drop offf rom Johnsson, and Johnsson is our best LW. If we trade Johnsson for Kassian, we have a pretty big gap to fill in LW, especially with Hyman hurt and expected to miss start of season. Bouchard is likely going to be at least as good as Liljegren, maybe better. But that’s still a few years away yet. Unless we bring someone in who contributes immediately and somehow makes us a stronger team now, then I doubt Leafs make a trade involving futures at all.


4.) 24 Jul 2019 13:18:32
I feel Bouchard is a significant upgrade to Liljegren. On the most recent Top 50 prospects ranking by Scott Wheeler, Bouchard was ranked 5th, and possibly could crack the lineup this year.

Not saying Liljegren is bad by any means, but Bouchard I feel has greater upside at this point!

The Leafs could manage to lose Johnsson and still be quite competitive offensively.


5.) 24 Jul 2019 23:30:42
Where was Liljegren on that list?

I should look at it myself. Haven’t seen an updated list in a while now. Would be good to see where this guy ranks everyone.


 

 

 

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19 Aug 2019 18:23:55
Although I like Montour, he is not a top pairing guy. Top 4 sure, but he is not as good as Barrie. I would not trade a future 1st for him.

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18 Aug 2019 14:25:29
Petan and Dal Colle are far from rookies, but I understand your point. The Leafs could dip into the FA pool and add a veteran LW if they want as they save cap space with this deal.

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16 Aug 2019 20:05:50
Well when I do a quick search for "top centres in the NHL" practically every report puts Matthews in the top 5, some rank him 2nd to McDavid. So yes, I would say generational. Matthews is a perennial 40 goal player with 50+ as an upside if he stays healthy (goal projections last 2 years would have been 45 and 44 goals respectively)

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16 Aug 2019 16:49:21
No No and No, stop trying to trade Matthews away! You don't wait forever to draft a generational talented Centre to then go ahead and trade them away! Please stop this non sense.

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16 Aug 2019 16:48:06
I agree. Skinner can stay with Buffalo, and also highly doubt the Leafs would trade Marner to Buffalo.

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