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17 Nov 2017 20:04:03
Colorado : Landeskog+ Barrie to

Toronto: Gardiner+ JVR+ Leivo +2nd round pick

Toronto: Bozak+ Dermott
to
Columbus: Ryan Murray or Savard.

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11 Nov 2017 19:51:34
Landeskog for JVR + Dermott + Bracco+ 2nd Round pick

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1.) 11 Nov 2017 22:56:49
@Heatdreamer Are you sure that's enough return for Sakic's liking. lol.


2.) 11 Nov 2017 22:57:32
Id rather have JVR.


3.) 12 Nov 2017 00:08:28
Take out JVR.


4.) 12 Nov 2017 14:12:03
An interesting trade idea heatdreamer. I’m curious why the Leafs would be interested in giving up so many pieces for this guy? As well, if the Leafs really wanted to do a trade like this, maybe they could involve a third party such as Ottawa did when they acquired Duchene? Maybe that would lessen the number of assets they’d have to surrender in a deal for Landedkog?


5.) 12 Nov 2017 20:46:26
I like Landeskog, he's 24, his price is nice (5.6M cap hit until 20/ 21), and he looks to be back on track after a bad year.

However he only has 4 years and the Avalanche are just starting the rebuild now. Next year he starts his NTC; so better for Sakic to trade him now while he has no restrictions and get more picks for the rebuild.

Sakic will be looking for more picks/ prospects than older players now that he is in rebuild mode, and he has cap space and contracts to bargain with.

I would suggest:
TOR: 1st 2020, 3rd 2018, Bozak, Dermott, Leivo, T. Moore (6M approx)

COL: Landeskog, JT Compher, 2nd 2018. ( 6.5 M approx)



The first to COL can be any year but it's better for Sakic to hedge the bet; he's just starting the rebuild. It's also better for the Leafs as they are about to exit the rebuild stage in a year. (I say the Leafs rebuild started with Reilly in 2012)

Getting Landeskog allows us to move JVR, and still keeps us competitive on that side.

JT Compher projects to be a pretty decent 2nd line center and might partner well with Marner. The Av's have Tyson Jost coming along nicely and can afford to move JT.

The Leafs are just giving up excess here with the exception of the picks. The Av's are moving a player who doesn't fit the future as JVR didn't when he was 26. Not that it couldn't work out, but, just that the time frame of the rebuild, wastes his most productive years.

Landeskog will have 5 years+ of his prime with the Leafs, a team who will be dominant during that time.

JVR's price will move him out of the picture even if he can play 5 more years and be effective.


6.) 12 Nov 2017 23:35:16
Instead of JVR, let's talk about starting the discussion around Gardiner and possibly Kadri along with Nielsen and a 1st Rd pick in 2018 for Landeskog.

Landeskog Matthews Nylander
JVR Marner Brown
Hyman Marleau Kapenen
Martin Moore Komarov.


7.) 13 Nov 2017 20:08:14
Bozak+ Leivo+ Carrick+ Soshnikov+ 2nd Round pick in 2018 and for Landeskog.

Kadri stays put. Centers of Future
1. Matthews
2. Kadri
3. Nylander
4. Gaultier / Moore
Wingers :
Loaded on the Left Wing.


 

 

16 Sep 2017 21:13:08
JVR+1st 2018+ Bracco for Roman Josi.

This was found on PredLines

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1.) 18 Sep 2017 02:45:30
I like this.


2.) 18 Sep 2017 15:20:31
Josi is a stud on a 4mill contract for 3 more years. You got to give up more as the leafs. Think maybe kapanen also lol. Harmonic got more in return.


3.) 18 Sep 2017 18:54:32
Not even close for one of the best defenders in the world on a cap friendly contract.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 09:42:07
Leafs trade:

JVR+ Gardiner+ Rychel + Johansson + 2018 2nd round pick + another 2nd round pick in 2019 should JVR not resign with Nashville

Nashville

Ellis +Ekholm

Heatdreamer

1.) 30 Aug 2017 10:46:47
Andreas Johnson maybe turning into a player his second half last season was impressive remember the previous year he had serious injury we don't trade him. The marlies will be interesting to watch this year figure out who is serious NHL players.


2.) 30 Aug 2017 13:56:24
Why would Nashville who just went to the cup trade away 2 key players. They are more likely to trade future assests (picks and prospects) for someone like JVR

To TOR: 2018 1st round pick + D - D. Fabbro

To NSH: F - JVR

Much more likely for a team that just went to a cup final!


3.) 30 Aug 2017 14:18:49
So Gardiner you are telling me is not worth EKHOLM? Nashville requires younger forwards, to enhance their offensive game. Receiving Gardiner really covers the offense lost for Ellis, and JVR+ 2 prospects + 2 draft picks for Ellis is not a valid
offer.
Than how about
Gardiner for Ekholm is an offensive defenseman for a defensive dman.


4.) 31 Aug 2017 04:12:26
you're insane.


5.) 31 Aug 2017 04:12:26
you're insane.


6.) 31 Aug 2017 06:44:17
I would conquer with Torontobuds more likely scenario of JVR being moved for a quality prospect and high draft pick.
Torontobuds is also right about Nashville giving up on their two defencemen, or the trading of 2 top 4 defencemen. That kind of scenario, of a team giving up 2 top 4D seems very unlikely. Heatdreamer, I think you would find that the structure of your deal would be more complicated in real life for both teams. If I were the Leafs, I would remain patient and confine doing what they've been doing for the past year.

As usual Captain, nothing positive or of real value to contribute to another discussion other than a put down. Why do you even bother? Have you nothing better to do than to be an antagonist?


7.) 31 Aug 2017 10:48:46
Ares99R, a respectful reply, seen indications that Predators are willing to trade Josi for Offensive Production. What would the Leafs offer for him?


8.) 31 Aug 2017 13:41:13
Getting Josi would be amazing although I thought he was an untouchable or as untouchable as players go on this team? Not sure what the preds asking price should be? Maybe we could brainstorm a few ideas?

If you were the Preds, what would you want in return?

Would a Josi deal cost the Leafs either Marner or Nylander? Could they put together a package which does not include either?


9.) 01 Sep 2017 15:21:28
Send them jvr leivo and a first ( or 2 seconds for those people who think a first should never be traded) for josi and a 3rd or something,


 

 

04 Aug 2017 13:02:17
Leafs trade -Nadri Kadri+ Connor Brown

Edmonton trades- Leon Draisaitl

Heatdreamer

1.) 04 Aug 2017 14:57:26
Not even close. Draisaitl is a 21yr old center puting up 77 pts last season, and is only going to get better. The oilers will not trade him any time soon. Nvm for kadri who will most likely be on the decline soon and Brown who only had the pts he did because of who he played with.


2.) 04 Aug 2017 15:27:42
agree about draisaitl not being traded. wouldn't make sense for Edmonton. but to say the only reason brown got points was because who he played with, your nuts. I believe brown played on all three top lines at some point. so really if he plays with any calibre nhl player he'll get points? sounds good to me. also what supports your theory that kadri will be on the decline? he's gotten better each year under Babcock.


3.) 04 Aug 2017 19:43:12
@86Arens so basically it all has to do with age for me when you look at kadri. He will be 27 this season and he's playing on what is basically our 3rd line when he gets most of his pts or the PP. To go along with your point that he's only gotten better under Babcock, I agree but I don't see him putting up the same numbers for the next 5 yrs. Maybe 3 if we are lucky. Nvm getting better.

As for Brown, 12 of 20 goals were when he was eaither set up by Matthews nylander kadri or Reilly. So in other words he was filling in on the top line. Don't get me wrong he finished, but he won't be playing with edms first line. At least from what I see. Just to add now. The reason he was so productive this year was the same reason Matthews scored 4 goals against ottawa. No one knew how to play the leafs. We didn't even know which line was our 1st lol. Once people figured out Matthews was a true stud in every way but faceoffs. They started shutting down that line. At which point he was moved to the kadri line and was set up by kadri and uncle Leo. Don't get me wrong he could keep growing and elevating his game. But people don't pay for possibilities with players like him. It what has he done.

So in the end is have to say we are low balling edm.


4.) 05 Aug 2017 01:14:04
Brown has also played with mcdavid, if it's due to what draisaitl wanting to much money for edm to pay they can get a better package. The leafs take the deal and flip draisaitl else where.


5.) 05 Aug 2017 12:29:29
Brown has proven doubters wrong and put up points at every level, regardless of who he was playing with.


6.) 05 Aug 2017 18:34:07
Kadri isn't going anywhere. He plays with a lot of grit and is too valuable a player for the new look Leafs.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2017 23:17:14
Lets expand the trade
From Kings: Doughty+ Brown for

From Maple Leafs : JVR+ Gardiner+ 1st Round pick 2018+ Bracco+ Dermott.

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30 Nov 2017 13:53:08
Oilers Receives: Komorov+ Dermott + 2nd Round pick (SJ) + 1st Round (Dallas)

Dallas Receives : Hopkins

Leafs Receive: Klingberg.

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29 Nov 2017 08:57:37
Make the trade, open a spot for Kapannen finally. Than trade Leivo + 3rd for Jarnkrok of Nashville.

Opens a spot for Johanssen from the Marlies.

Resolves the 3rd Center position for the next few years.

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27 Nov 2017 13:38:51
Captain Clutch, I agree that JVR should be extended 6 years $5.75 MM. There is monies in two years to accommodate his salary.

Trading Bozak+ Komorov is a reality. Nylander and Marner are not playing to last year's level, and Nylander deserves a long term contract, but not an overpay. So a bridge in the $4 MM area and earning an extension to around $7 MM per annum.

Marner has incredible talent, but the long term contract is presently in the $4.5- $5MM area, Marner is not worth presently for $6.7 MM that everyone has discussed.

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23 Nov 2017 21:32:58
Leivo + Aaltonen ( Leafs)

for

Jarnkrok (Nashville) They have Centers
RJ. Turris, Bonino + Scissons.

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