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04 Apr 2020 18:08:28
Major Trade:

Leafs trade:
Marner + Reilly

Florida trades
Ekblad + Huberdeau + Owen Tippett.

Leafs trade Johnsson + Anderson + Kerfoot + Korshkov

to

Sabres for Ristolainen + Ulmark + Reinhart

Huberdeau Tavares Kapanen
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Robertson Reinhart Mikheyev
Clifford Engvall Spezza
Forwards:$52. MM
Dermott Eckblad
Muzzin Ristolainen
Sandin Holl
Defense: $24 MM
Campbell
Ulmark
Goaltending: $5 MM
Kessel :$1.2
Total: $82.2 MM

Heatdreamer

1.) 04 Apr 2020 19:14:58
Now that looks like a Stanley Cup winning team. Those top three lines are stacked. And I mean stacked.

I'm not going to worry about the trades themselves. Just going to pick in your lineups a bit.

Dermott as our 1LHD is a bit questionable. I have no doubts he is a top 4 defenseman. Or at least he will be. But right now I think he is at best 2LHD. Asking him to okay 25 minutes a night on top line might still be too much for him.

I love the idea of using Robertson's elc to help mitigate against the cap problems. But Robertson on 3LW is a bit of a long shot. I would love to see him make it right out of junior, but that's not something you see too often, even for the most elite players. Even Marner spent an extra year developing after being drafted

Tippett might actually be good enough to make the team next year. I see you traded for him, but didn't insert him into the lineups. He is an A-prospect for sure, and I would be thrilled to see a lineup including both Robertson and Tippett.

Big moves here HeatDreamer. Ballsy choices for sure. I love that Florida trade. Just don't know if Florida would be willing to swap out Huberdeau for Marner when the difference in salary is so large. You get way way way more bang for your buck with Huberdeau than you do with anyone on the Leafs.


2.) 04 Apr 2020 19:55:50
LGM,

Thank you, Robertson has to go back to junior, he is not allowed to play in the AHL due to age. Move him up.
Dermott and Muzzin can interchange LHD roles, I felt Muzzin would be better with Ristolainen and Ekblad would enhance Dermott.

My trade with Florida was much larger initially.

Marner + Reilly + Anderson

for

Huberdeau + Eckblad + Tippett + Bobrovsky + $3 MM a year

Than the trade for Sabres
Johnsson + Kerfoot + Korshkov

for
Ristolainen + Reinhart, but this raised the Leafs salary to $85.5 MM, above the initial quote of the salary cap.

Go big or go home. Leafs have played 4 years at least with this group. Time to make some changes.

Make the Florida trade or the Carolina trade.
Than add the Buffalo trade.
If you make the Carolina trade, you can trade Kapanen with Dermott (because you receive Niederreiter) for Theodore.

Huberdeau is better than Teravainen, but is Slavin better than Ekblad? Pick your poison.


3.) 04 Apr 2020 20:43:11
You saw Bob this year right? He makes 10/ yr very long term and looked like an emergency backup. If he doesn't improve they will be paying someone 3 1sts and 5 prospects to take that contract.

Freddy is a UFA, Marner is on a bad contract and Reilly is rental+. Teams don't give up long term assets and A prospects for that. Especially not guys like ekblad. If a trade came down tomorrow ekblad for Reilly I wouldn't question Dubas. Reilly may not be resigned for cap reasons and Ekblad is signed to a decent contract longer term.


4.) 04 Apr 2020 21:35:46
There are teams who require point scoring forwards. So I will respectfully disagree with you LL.
There are teams like Buffalo who require forwards for next year. Also, Buffalo has defensemen, that they want to trade.

Columbus traded for 1 year players to go for a Stanley Cup. Winnipeg did that with Stasny. So again I challenge your statement due to History.

So Reilly for Ekblad is acceptable.
The question is what is Marner worth?
Apparently, we have different opinions!


5.) 04 Apr 2020 21:44:56
And, Ekblad is RHD.

It looks almost like Leafs94 was right. The plan is to let Reilly go after next year.


6.) 04 Apr 2020 22:09:01
Right LeafsGM I think if the league give out a compliance buyout and they rid themselves of bobs contract this is a very real trade but in their own division it would be hard to say they would do it.


 

 

01 Apr 2020 20:33:13
Reilly for Eckblad + 1st. In this deal I would trade Marner for Huberdeau.

Reilly + Marner for Ekblad + Huberdeau + 2nd

Anderson than can be extended eventually.

Johnsson + Dermott for Theodore.

Robertson plays 3rd Line LW with Kerfoot and Mikheyev
Clifford signed 4th Line LW

Theodore Ekblad
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren

Heatdreamer

1.) 01 Apr 2020 21:53:33
I really can't believe how some of these posters overvalue the worth of the Leafs bottom of the lineup players and unheard of Marlies players who aren't good enough to play in the NHL. Reilly and Marner for Ekblad and Huberdeau seems fair while Johnson and Dermott for Theodore is very bad for any team not named the Leafs.


2.) 01 Apr 2020 22:44:22
Dear Ij,

So if you think the trade for Theodore is undervalued. Than add a high draft pick.
Johnsson + Dermott + 2nd Round pick. So when you state is a bad trade, what would considered a more balance trade. To me Johnsson + Dermott for Ristolainen is a reasonable trade as an alternative
Dermott + for Sanheim of Philadelphia is a fair trade.


3.) 01 Apr 2020 23:23:03
I have very high hopes for Dermott. I know I'm alone in my man crush there lol but I still believe he can be a 1LHD one day. He performed extremely well in Reilly and Muzzin's absence.

FLA probably wouldn't do this. They get the best players but Reilly is a rental+ and Marner gives them major cap issues.


4.) 02 Apr 2020 02:32:54
Island Jet.

Johnsson + Dermott for Theodore is a lousy trade. Would Toronto adding a high draft pick, make it a fairer deal?
Just saying is a lousy deal, and denigrating an opinion is basically trolling.


5.) 02 Apr 2020 05:08:04
It's almost as bad as the way Jets fans value their players.

Leafs-Panthers will never make a trade unless it's fringe players and bottom feeders. I'd rather have Reilly over Ekblad, but I would take Huberdeau and that sweet contract of his over Marner and his bloated contract. Leafs would have to retain salary for this deal to happen.

The other deal isn't nearly as bad as certain Jets fans night think. Theodore is a good goalie, but he ain't too 10 in the league or anything. If you replaced Johnsson with Kapanen or (especially) Hyman, this deal would probably get a lot more consideration. As is, you get their attention, but probably not enough. Johnsson was riddled with injury last year, and it really reflected in his stats. I always say Leafs should never trade for damaged goods, no matter how good the player might have been before injury (Dumba's cough, cough) . I wouldn't expect any other gm to take our damaged goods either.


6.) 02 Apr 2020 16:58:12
Taking on previously injured players is something I would 100% do in the right circumstances. Kawhi came back from possible career ending surgery. Brees did the same. Many athletes across all sports have done it and made their teams better in the process. Just has to be the right peice.


7.) 03 Apr 2020 01:02:54
Good point LeafsLife. Kahwi sure did a fine job. Too bad Tavares couldn't win us the cup his first year here too. Wouldn't that have been something. Lol.

The good thing about taking on injured players is that they are going to be cheap to acquire. The bad thing about taking on injured players is that they are damaged goods. The odds of regression is high after a player gets hurt. If you have faith in a players ability to turn it on again after being hurt and can get him for dirt cheap, then go for it. Like you said, if the price is right, why not?


 

 

01 Apr 2020 11:06:07
Leafs trade Johnsson + Dermott for Montour or Ristolainen.

Heatdreamer

1.) 01 Apr 2020 15:40:52
Way to much for either one.


2.) 01 Apr 2020 17:57:52
Agree.

Funny thing is that they are completely different type of defenseman. One is an offensive d-man that is absolutely horrendous on actual defense. The other is a monster in the back end, but is an absolute sloth in the o-zone.

I guess it depends on which one you think we need more.


 

 

31 Mar 2020 14:34:15
Leafs trade:

Johnsson and Dermott

for

Connor Murphy + Nylander or Strome

Heatdreamer

1.) 31 Mar 2020 19:05:07
Don't think you would be getting Strome for this price. Connor Murphy is a stud. I don't mean a stud defenseman. I just mean a stud in general. If he can't play good hockey, maybe we can get him on a poster in his undies and sell tickets that way.


2.) 01 Apr 2020 10:58:22
LGM:
First, have you noticed this board has dried up.
Second, the Leafs are magically looking for a RHD and stay under the cap. The cap is being challenged as there is no more public events to June 30, 2020.
Yet, Leafs are pursuing a Russian Winger.
That is why imho, the Leafs are comfortable trading a Johnsson &/ or Kapanen + Dermott who has become redundant as a LHD.
Manson, Dumba, Murphy, Ristolainen, Hamilton or sign Gudas or Hainsey as a free agent.
The Leafs require the right partner for Reilly. The Leafs require the RHD to be there for a period of time of at least two years.
My preference is Ristolainen or his antithesis the signing of Gudas. Which would you prefer to be Reilly's right hand partner?


3.) 01 Apr 2020 13:42:51
I like risto I think he can play at a high level and has the size gudas is a good one too he’s a vet and brings a nasty playing style reminds me of a polak only better.


4.) 01 Apr 2020 15:44:19
Would prefer Gudas to Risto. Risto is another offensive D (Dubas will be happy) but doesn't help Reilly.


5.) 01 Apr 2020 17:56:08
@heatdreamer

Yes. The board dries up every year after the trade deadline. This year is extra worse though because the season is cancelled too. So there is really almost nothing hockey to talk about.

I wasn't cutting up your prop or anything. I just think that Nylander would be the guy sent over, not Strome. And there is nothing wrong with Murphy. He's a cheap RHD that could fill a void for a year or two.

I think Chicago would be tempted by this offer. It's a pretty even hockey trade. Johnsson is probably an improvement over Nylander, and Dermott is probably an improvement over Murphy, so if anything, Chicago might add a mid-late pick. Hard to say. If Leafs initiate discussion though, then I would think the trade goes through as is.


 

 

28 Mar 2020 02:10:14
Barkov + Huberdeau + Ekblad

for

Matthew + Nylander + Dermott

Heatdreamer

1.) 30 Mar 2020 02:13:31
You know. The thing is. When I look at Florida, I see them as a good team. But I don't see them as contenders. Even though they have a lot of very good players that I like individually, as a whole, I don't think they can win with the team they have. When I think of our top 4 forwards, I think it's a very real possibility they can win. When I take two of them away and replace them with a couple guys from Florida, I'm not seeing the same thing. Maybe it's because I'm biased against Florida. I don't know. I just think we have a better chance at winning with what we have than making this deal.


 

 

 

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04 Apr 2020 21:35:46
There are teams who require point scoring forwards. So I will respectfully disagree with you LL.
There are teams like Buffalo who require forwards for next year. Also, Buffalo has defensemen, that they want to trade.

Columbus traded for 1 year players to go for a Stanley Cup. Winnipeg did that with Stasny. So again I challenge your statement due to History.

So Reilly for Ekblad is acceptable.
The question is what is Marner worth?
Apparently, we have different opinions!

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04 Apr 2020 19:55:50
LGM,

Thank you, Robertson has to go back to junior, he is not allowed to play in the AHL due to age. Move him up.
Dermott and Muzzin can interchange LHD roles, I felt Muzzin would be better with Ristolainen and Ekblad would enhance Dermott.

My trade with Florida was much larger initially.

Marner + Reilly + Anderson

for

Huberdeau + Eckblad + Tippett + Bobrovsky + $3 MM a year

Than the trade for Sabres
Johnsson + Kerfoot + Korshkov

for
Ristolainen + Reinhart, but this raised the Leafs salary to $85.5 MM, above the initial quote of the salary cap.

Go big or go home. Leafs have played 4 years at least with this group. Time to make some changes.

Make the Florida trade or the Carolina trade.
Than add the Buffalo trade.
If you make the Carolina trade, you can trade Kapanen with Dermott (because you receive Niederreiter) for Theodore.

Huberdeau is better than Teravainen, but is Slavin better than Ekblad? Pick your poison.

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04 Apr 2020 12:44:09
LGM,
Leafs blow up the bottom six improves on Defense.
Follow up trades:
Kapanen + Johnsson for Theodore
Dermott + Kerfoot+ Brooks for Sanheim + Frost
Anderson for Reinhart + Ulmark


Hyman Matthew Nylander
Teravianen Taveras Neidereitter
Clifford Reinhart Mikheyev
Robertson Gaulthier Spezza
Forwards: $52 MM

Slavin Theodore
Muzzin Sanheim
Sandin Holl
Defense:$22 MM

Ulmark
Campbell
Goaltending: $5 MM
Kessel
$80.5 MM.

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04 Apr 2020 01:20:04
Why don't they extend hyman for 4 years at $4 mm.


Marner + Reilly + Engvall + 3rd pick for Slavin + Teravainen + Niederreiter.

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02 Apr 2020 02:32:54
Island Jet.

Johnsson + Dermott for Theodore is a lousy trade. Would Toronto adding a high draft pick, make it a fairer deal?
Just saying is a lousy deal, and denigrating an opinion is basically trolling.

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