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13 Jul 2018 12:47:49
Landeskog+ Barrie for Zaitsev +Nylander + Pickard


1.) 13 Jul 2018 13:25:02
Nah I don’t think they take that.

2.) 13 Jul 2018 14:48:34
Dubas also already said like a million time he isn’t trading Nylander.

3.) 13 Jul 2018 15:47:55
If we assume Landeskog is Nylander’s equal, Barrie >>> Zaitsev + Picard.

Abs pass.

4.) 14 Jul 2018 01:43:44
Landeskog + Barrie for Gardiner+ Nylander+ 2nd round.

5.) 15 Jul 2018 01:17:53
I think Nylander is the best player in the deal and the winner of any trade is usually considered to be the team that got the best player.
Leafs lose on this one!



21 Jun 2018 13:57:18
AVS Trade with Leafs

Nylander for Landeskog is this reasonable.

What do the Leafs have to give for Johnson- 2018 1ST+ Neilson+ Bracco


1.) 21 Jun 2018 18:30:44
Landeskog is about Nylander’s equal, so I’m not too sure what the point of making this trade would be. We can sign Nylander to 8 years, while Landeskog is under contract for only another 3 years. Leafs pass on this trade.

I think what you are offering for Johnson is a little low. Sakic is a hard bargainer. Maybe the hardest in the league. I like Johnson, and he’s probably worth the $6M he makes. But five years at $6M per year for a 30 year old defender kinda cramps our ability to make signings going forward. I’d rather look at other options, including paying more for a Doughty or Subban or someone along those lines.

2.) 22 Jun 2018 02:54:02
Not sure why the Leafs would want to do this.
Nylander is much younger, more talented and a better fit with the Leafs IMHO!



09 Jun 2018 12:22:14
Two Trades
Nylander+ Gardiner+ 2nd round pik 2018 for Barrie+ Landeskog

Sparks+ 1st Round Pick+ Leivo + Rosen FOR STAAL + Faulk.

Financially Leafs in 2019/2020 are at %79 MM.


1.) 09 Jun 2018 13:08:19
Oh no not Staal he is far too old and far too expensive.
Just a reply you will get from others🤡🤪🤷‍♂️

I like the thoughts of both trades I would target Hanifin in lieu of Faulk.

2.) 09 Jun 2018 16:26:49
Marleau 37 and %6.25 MM, Hainsey 34 --3 MM AND you add Staal -30 for $6 MM.

Give up Gardiner 28 and Nylander to gain a 25 and 26 from Colorado to Gain a two RHD 26 AND 29 WHICH the Leafs desperately needed for 2 years of stability.

A 21 YEAR OLD TALENTED RW whose is going to cost $6 MM, AND GAIN A #1 LW -25 YEAR OLD WITH A $5.57 MM. Balancing the strengths of your LW, BUT STILL RETAINING 3 SOLID RW.

You gain a quality 3rd line Center for 750 K more than Bozak who was 32 years old. Tougher and greater two way center.

Finally this teams is gaining Strength in the Center position, who can each play 18 to 20 MM. Strengthen your LW of your team.

Give 2 years for Johnsson to prepare to take over from Marleau on LW as the 2nd strongest LW.

Stop trying to get OEL OR Hanifin. Be realistic and gain two solid Defensemen while losing only 1 starting defenseman.

3.) 09 Jun 2018 18:13:37
Last I checked Hanifin is a detenceman. So I said I like the avs trade and in lieu of Faulk get Hanifin.

4.) 09 Jun 2018 23:16:08
I wouldn't bother with Faulk if you're planning on getting Barrie already. Not much of a fan on Barrie either. I really like the idea of getting Landeskog though aswell as Staal. I'd be all about getting Staal depending on Carolina's asking price. Our biggest need this summer is a centre and a defencemen. Staal's not a defencemen but he brings in that third line centre hole aswell as EXCELLENT defensive capabilities. Just curious to see what they are asking for him.



04 Jun 2018 07:46:56
Gardiner + Brown+ 1ST Round Pick for Subban


1.) 04 Jun 2018 13:49:04
After making the above trade

Sign Riley Nash

Trade Martin+ Sparks for Demers.

2.) 04 Jun 2018 14:52:07
I think you are a dreamer Heatdreamer.

Nashville will be asking for more than a pending UFA, depth forward, and a pick.

Considering they offered up Weber in his prime when they traded for Subban, Gardiner and a couple throw-ins isn’t even close. Subban is top 5 defenseman in the world.

3.) 04 Jun 2018 15:06:34
I think you are pretty far off on the Demers trade as well. Arizona is doing is a favour by taking Martin. I don’t even know if they could use Sparks, but chances are as third string goalie, he’s never going to be our starter again.

Trying to dump a couple players who will almost certainly never play more than a handful of games on Leafs again for a very useful and dependable full time defenseman is pretty heavily favouring the Leafs. I think you need to sharpen your pencil and come up with something more useful for Arizona.

4.) 04 Jun 2018 19:00:43
While this offer does not land Subban, he is not a top five defenseman in the world haha.

5.) 04 Jun 2018 20:47:20
Most analysts I’ve read would put Subban top 5 defenseman. Even NHL website has him ranked number four currently. He is a stud defenseman, and in my opinion, is probably the most rounded out of all the top defensemen, except maybe Doughty. I would rather have Subban than maybe almost any other sefenseman in the world. He hits, clears the net, sets up plays, blocks shots, fights, he does it all. Like I said, the only other defenseman I can think of I would rather have is Doughty.

6.) 05 Jun 2018 00:29:06
Gardiner is top 5
Leafs sign Calvert.

7.) 05 Jun 2018 03:36:26
Top 5 fantasy defenseman, sure.

8.) 05 Jun 2018 16:26:28
This trade is a bit one sided in favor of Toronto.

Any guesses how to even it up?

That’s right, take out fluffy (Gardiner) and Nashville night take it .

9.) 05 Jun 2018 23:13:36
Subban is definitely a top 5 in the world. Whose better? Karlsson, Doughty and Hedman. Those 3 for sure. I’d put him in same class as Burns and Byfuglien. I guess top 6 for sure. lol but I’d rate him the 4th best on this list.

If you’re thinking about players in other leagues - just remember that Zaitsev was considered the BEST dman in the second best league in the world (KHL) when we squired him. He’s not even top 60 in the NHL.



29 May 2018 00:41:18
Just don't understand the hate on Gardiner besides he stunk in Game 7.

Leafs require a 3rd Center with defensive prowess. Leafs require a strong #2 RHD.
Leafs have a plethora of RW.
Leafs have an excess of BACKup Goaltenders and have an excess of 6 and 7 defense-man at low oost.

Leafs trade for Slavin or Pesce + Staal from Carolina, the cost would be Sparks+Kapannen+ Carrick +2nd round.

Leafs trade Gardiner + Leivo for Demers+ Domi.

Leafs have a 3rd line of Staal Domi and Brown.

Add two solid defenseman and give up Gardiner for that benefit of long term salary cap.

Leafs are than under the cap of around $78. MM for the next two years.


1.) 29 May 2018 01:22:28
For the umpteenth time. gardiner played game 7 like he plays the majority of his games. poor stick check no body check he just can’t play the defensive side. he got overwhelmed on the forecheck and couldn’t contain the oncoming rush he makes poor decisions.
Watched all the games the last three years. Nothing has changed with him.

2.) 29 May 2018 01:30:14
Gardiner’s game 7 collapse is enough to hate on him.

A Carolina defenseman for Leafs forward is a match that seems to work well for each team. Carolina has a ton of very high quality defense prospects. I wouldn’t be surprised if a move is made somewhere there.

I’m not sure if Carolina will be looking at moving Staal, and even if they were, I don’t think Leafs would be interested. $6M a year is a lot of money to be paying for a third line center. I expect Nylander and Marner to be signing for somewhere in that range, and they are both much better players.

3.) 29 May 2018 16:29:42
Not to pile on, but the Gardiner debate must end . He doesn’t know what he is doing in the position . At best, he is #5 D man in the AHL or OHL . not an NHL level D man .

He has a little offensive upside, but not enough to make up for the fact that he has no chance of making a smart play on D.

When he gets the puck, you can almost see him look up and say to himself "oh. no, what do I do now? ".

4.) 29 May 2018 16:43:03
If u don't understand the hate towards Gardiner u must not watch to many games. Ya he's improved on his point total and plus minus but he is the absolute last guy u want on the ice in the dying seconds of a game or when defending a lead. He can't think under pressure. Year after year after year after year oh and after year he let's his team down some how or some way. He's a cancer on the back end and we don't need or have any more time to waste on him. Dermott is his replacement point blank period.

5.) 29 May 2018 17:02:23
Ah the Gardner hating circle again without a single fact shared between everybody lol. Leafs I generally like your opinions on here so if you hate Gardner for game 7 that’s fine. The other 2 however have been laughable since I recently got on here. To those that you know have a different opinion of them don’t let them bully you out of it. They lost all credibility calling Gardner a number 5 defencemen like what? So a 50 point, 20 minutes a game, 52 percent average Corsica player is our 5 d lol our defence must be best in the league.

6.) 29 May 2018 20:28:15
All these people hating on gardiner saying he’s trash then give him enough value to get a solid player back. If you all thought he was as bad as you say then he wouldn’t be worth a 4th. He’s an offensive defenseman he has bad games Karlsson had a -6 game this year does that make him a bad defenseman no people say he is one of th best in the league gardiner put up 52 points last year and people call him a 5th AHL defenseman.

7.) 30 May 2018 01:49:10
Boopy watch a lot of hockey? Or just study stat pages?

Gardiner is so lost playing d in the nhl
So so lost.




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14 Jul 2018 01:43:44
Landeskog + Barrie for Gardiner+ Nylander+ 2nd round.




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09 jul 2018 10:02:33
why would you care about exchanging ltir, leafs profit is over $100 mm a year. stop trading ltir, it has no major effect on salary cap.




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08 Jul 2018 23:24:53
I would sign Maroon to a $3 MM contract for 4 years, if the Leafs believe the salary cap will go up to $82.5 MM next year

Also, I would trade Gardiner + Brown for Spurgeon

Also Trade Hainsey + Leivo+ 4 th round for Demers

Marleau Matthews Nylander
Maroon Taveras. Marner
Hymen. Kadri. Kapanen
Johnsson. Lindholm. Jooris

Ennis Subban

Reilly. Spurgeon
Demers Zaitsev
Dermott. Carrick



$82 MM for 2019/ 20

Marleau must be traded but Leafs will have plenty room.




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08 Jul 2018 23:00:07
Leafs will trade Marleau July 2, 2019 after the $5 MM bonus is paid for a prospect.




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28 Jun 2018 14:50:55
You could trade Marleau after July 1, 2019 when bonus is paid and have a few million more to spend on a middle defenseman an additional savings of $2 MM TO 2.5 mm on Marner Salary. A savings of $2 MM on Martin.

Probably a net savings of $11 MM- 3.5 MM replacement players= $7.5 MM Savings to $75.5 mm, leaving more than enough to upgrade your defense based on your estimates DM.





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