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17 Jun 2018 03:44:43
To Leafs:
Skinner, Faulk
To Carolina
Rights to Bozak and JVR, 1st rounder this year and next year, Pickard, Grundstrom, Carrick or Holl

To Calgary:
Gardiner
To leafs:
Backlund, assets

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17 Jun 2018 04:25:39
Also include brown in the Calgary trade
Sign Derek Ryan or Riley Nash and Maroon
Johnsson/ Matthews/ Marner
Skinner/ Kadri/ Nylander
Marleau/ Backlund/ Kapanen
Maroon/ Ryan or Nash/ Hyman

Rielly/ Faulk
Dermott/ Zaitsev
Hainsey/ Holl or Carrick (whoever wasn’t traded)

Anderson
Sparks

Move Mclheiny to minors for some goalie depth.

17 Jun 2018 04:41:20
Calgary desperately needs another LD and Gardiner can be that LD
They also have lots of centers who are young and goong to improve so they can afford to trade Backlund ( especially when they hopefully know they aren’t going to win a cup in the next few years.

17 Jun 2018 04:44:40
Giordano is getting old is my point so Calgary will need a younger defence and they can find that in Gardiner, and then they can trade Giordano for something good that they need (such as a goalie for instance) because TJ Brodie can take his spot and Gardiner can play top 4D.

17 Jun 2018 00:56:03
Flyers - Maple Leafs

Maple Leafs acquire W.Simmonds and the 14th overall pick in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft in exchange for N. Kadri, J. Gardiner and picks 52nd and 83rd in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft.

With the 14th overall selection in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft, the Maple Leafs select Vitali Kravtsov.

With the 25th overall selection in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft, the Maple Leafs select Ty Dellandria

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17 Jun 2018 16:20:13
Kadri is a solid second line center who is in his prime so I don't really want to give him up
Maybe instead of both our second and third rounders you can give them our first rounder and like a seventh rounder in 2020 (we have 3 of them)
We also don't really need a high first round draft pick if any first round pick at all so it doesn't really make sence to trade for one
We also have very deep right winger depth, we don't need another one.

16 Jun 2018 23:42:58
To oil sparks gardiner brown
To leafs Nugent Hopkins. 2nd 2019

To yotes. Matthews carrick Martin
To leafs 1st 2018 1st 2019 chychrun keller perlini

To canes yotes 1st 2018 leafs 1st 2018
To leafs 1st 2018 draft svechnikov

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17 Jun 2018 04:28:57
I will not accept any Matthews trades
Just no.

16 Jun 2018 20:13:03
To Philadelphia Nylander Carrick sparks
To leafs couturier Sanheim

Leafs sign Matt Calvert Riley Nash

To sharks gardiner
To leafs Braun

Johnsson 34 kapanen
Marleau couturier Marner
Hyman Kadri brown
Calvert nash grundstrom

Reilly Braun
Dermott Zaitsev
sanheim hainsey

Freddy
Mcbackup

Leafs get more grit up front
D is more solid

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17 Jun 2018 03:04:10
Absolutely not.

Couturier almost doubled his previous average in goals and points, and I’m not convinced he will be able to continue to put up the numbers like that again. Nylander has been consistent since coming into the league, and I feel he is the more proven player.

I don’t know anything about Sanheim. His scouting report looks good, and his stats ain’t bad. But he is definitely not enough incentive to make this trade.

18 Jun 2018 01:39:10
Couturier is probably 2nd only to Patrice Bergeron as the best, two way center in the League. Plus he had a breakout year offensively. Couturier is better than Nylander alone without the Flyers having to throw in one of their top defensive prospects.
I'm confident that Hextall is not foolish enough to agree to a trade like this.

16 Jun 2018 11:44:36
Arizona- Austin Mathews

Tor- 1st overall pic 2018,2019, oel, dovarak ,strome

Arizona get there kid I'm a die hard leafs fan but I think Mathews will be an issue , I'd say sign jt to a year max contract then sign him for 8 years give him captancy
Then pawn off oel and something to the kings and get doughty if feasible sign Thornton for your 3c try and dump Martin for a conditional pic

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16 Jun 2018 12:37:57
No thanks! So let me get this straight. The Leafs finally draft a star talent 1st overall and you want to trade him?

16 Jun 2018 15:47:12
Pretty sure BUffalo has the 1st overall pick this year.

I’m all for entertaining proposals to trade Matthews. But this return is nowhere near what we could be asking.

Arizona sucks. What makes you think these guys would play any better wearing a Leafs uniform? I’d rather have Matthews than half of Arizona’s team.

Leafs pass.

16 Jun 2018 22:32:31
Matthews
2018 1st
2019
2020
2021
2022
2022 1st.

16 Jun 2018 22:38:16
Montreal signs Tavaris, Karlsson, and Statsney, and flip their senior management team to another galaxy for 1st rd pick in 2019.
Go Leafs!

17 Jun 2018 03:10:07
Randy

You aren’t far off from your value for Matthews. According to RFA rules, if another team were to poach Matthews, the compensation would be four 1st round picks. So six first round picks has got to be just about right for a franchise #1 center of Matthews caliber.

I would still rather have Matthews than all those picks. You could go to the draft six times and still not get a player of Matthews caliber.

17 Jun 2018 04:18:04
Even the thought is nauseous.
Go Leafs!

18 Jun 2018 01:45:31
Matthews (a 1st line center) for two 1st round picks and two 3rd line players in Strome and Dvorak just doesn't cut it.
If you really want to trade Matthews (I don't) let's start with:
Clayton Keller
Jacob Chychrun
Lawson Crouse
2018 first round pick (#5)
2019 first round pick
That would perhaps be enough to get the talks started.

16 Jun 2018 01:07:23
This is, without a doubt, the site that is the most fun to share hockey ideas on.

New trade of the day:

To Buffalo: William Nylander
Garret Sparks
Jeremy Bracco
Connor Carrick
2018, 1st round pick

To Leafs: Ryan O'Rielly
Sam Rienhart


Nylander would look great with Eichel and would perhaps give his brother Alex the support and confidence to become the player that warranted a top 10 pick.

Sparks gives the questionable Sabres goal tending depth and options.

Carrick gives Sabres youth and depth on the right side D.

Bracco is a potentially high end offensive prospect for future development.

Start the debate, save the abuse!
Thanks and enjoy the day.

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16 Jun 2018 06:05:02
What would the lines look like for the leafs?

16 Jun 2018 06:34:30
If Buffalo makes this trade it would be because they are dumping O’Reilly’s contract.

Personally, I think O’Rellly is way overpaid, and a real pussy considering how big he is. He is consistent at putting up the numbers, so you can’t count on him to produce. Seems he nets right around 20 goals and 60 points a year. Which is just about the exact same as Nylander. But you are going to have to pay for it. $7.5M a year is probably significantly more than Nylander will be making. And, similar to Nylander, O’ Reilly’s focus on procuctiom comes at a cost to defensive. He is a liability in his own end. I would rather have Nylander, who will be around a lot longer and for cheaper. Buffalo wins this part of the trade.

Reinhardt is looking more and more to be living up to the expectations placed on him when he was drafted. The rest of the Leafs consist of a bunch of spare parts (Carrick, Sparks, Bracco, 1st) . All good players who we don’t have room for and will likely see playing time in Buffalo. It’s not exactly Leaf garbage for Buffalo gold, but it’s pretty close. Leafs win this part of the trade.

In the end, I would not make this trade. Without knowing how much Reinhardt is going to be signing for makes guess work necessary. Assuming he signs for $5.5M, then that means after you add in O’Reilly’s $7.5, that’s a total of $13M big ones for these two players. I would rather sign Tavares or Doughty or someone who is a real superstar at their position than bring in these guys.

It’s a pretty good proposal floated here, and one that’s both teams would need to consider seriously. A rebuilding BUffalo team would be receiving large numbers of assets, some of who are very high quality. Leafs bring in a couple very effective players, though at high cost to salary cap. May impede ability to re-sign other key team members or bring in free agents.

16 Jun 2018 06:42:00
*can* count on O’Reilly for production (20G, 60Pts)

That was a typo in my previous post. Not sure why it keeps doing that. Screws up the whole meaning of my sentence big time. Just read in context and it becomes apparent what I mean.

16 Jun 2018 09:18:48
Leafs lineup as of now

Hyman Matthews brown
Marleau kadri marner
Johnson Nylander Kapanan
Leivo Aantonen Grundstrom

Reilly Holl
Dermott zaitsev
Gardiner Hainsey

Anderson
Sparks

Lets see what leafs add the next two weeks.

16 Jun 2018 14:53:50
I feel like that 3rd line will be deadly.

16 Jun 2018 23:47:53
DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY O'REILLY IS A LIABILITY IN HIS OWN END?!?! Shows how much you know.

17 Jun 2018 02:40:01
That is ridiculous. With what the Leafs are giving up in this proposed trade, I would expect all of that. Eichel and Ristolainen.

15 Jun 2018 19:52:03
To Leafs:
Simmonds
To Philly:
1st 2018, rights to Bozak, Brooks, 7th 2020

To Leafs:
Hamilton, Tkachuk
To Calgary:
Simmonds, 1st 2019, 7th 2020 (via Edmonton), Pickard, rights to Bozak and JVR, more from the farm (assets)-any suggestions for this?

This is what I did last time but this time we don't trade Mclheiny and we get more from Calgary, while not giving up Nylander or Kapanen

Lines:
Hyman/Matthews/Marner
Tkachuk/Kadri/Nylander
Marleau/?-again suggestions?/Kapanen
Johnson/Lindholm/Brown

Rielly/Hamilton
Gardiner/Zaitsev
Dermott/Hainsey

Anderson
Sparks
(move Mclheiny to minors for depth)

Who do you think the third line center should be?-Leave in comments
(I say we sign Thornton or trade Gardiner for a third line center and a 2nd rounder, bump Dermott up to top 4 LD, move Hainsey over to top 6 LD, and bring up Liljgren, Holl or put in Carrick on top 6 RD)

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15 Jun 2018 20:55:38
Did we duplicate bozak cause we traded his rights twice.

15 Jun 2018 21:25:15
oh whoops my bad I just meant rights to JVR
Thats why I added any suggestions for more assets, sorry.

16 Jun 2018 01:28:56
You can get a lot more for Gardiner than a third line center and a 2nd.

16 Jun 2018 05:54:52
You already have two third line centres playing the wing. Either Marleau or Nylander can play center. I usually slot Marleau in for 3C because he hasn’t more experience than Nylander. Either works in between Johnsson and Kapanen. That’s a fast line with a lot of skill. Much better idea than trying to bring in Thornton or Filppula. And cheaper too.

16 Jun 2018 06:01:10
So, your lineups would like like this

Hyman/ Matthews/ Nylander
Tkachuk/ Kadri/ Marner
Johnsson/ Marleau/ Kapanen
(Lievo) / Lindholm/ Brown
* (Martin)

Reilly/ Hamilton
(Gardiner) / Zaitsev
Dermott/ Hainsey
* (Carrick) ), Holl, Liljegren

*Lievo, Carrick, Martin and Gardiner all on the most likely to be traded list
*Liljegren, and probably Holl, will be seeing ice time 3RHD next year
*Marleau and Nylander can switch positions once. Ylamder is ready.

16 Jun 2018 06:07:58
I guess that is true but remember the leafs have a lot of cap space so I say we sign Thornton to 1 year (2 at a soulute max) and keep Marleau on the wing for more chemistry in that line
Then we can also keep Grundström in the Minors for another year until he fully develops.

16 Jun 2018 21:08:11
Nash from the Bruins between Marleau -Kapanen.

17 Jun 2018 02:47:03
Ahahahaha. what a bollocks trade. never give up any first rnder's
You definitely sound like a Flames fan. absolutely f-up and silly.

17 Jun 2018 02:50:53
I would trade for Simmonds. but you are offering waaaayy to much. trade Nylander for Simmonds straight up. better 200 ft. physical player with equal stats.

15 Jun 2018 07:42:19
#1
To Toronto Maple Leafs
• Dougie Hamilton
• Sam Bennett
To Calgary Flames
• William Nylander
• 25th Overall Pick
• Connor Brown

#2

To Toronto Maple Leafs
• Mike Hoffman (guessing his value dropped a bit)
To Ottawa Senators
• Kasperi Kapanen
• 2nd Round Pick
• Joffrey Lupul

Resign James Van Riemsdyk and sign Calvin De Haan & Michael Grabner.

Mike Hoffman - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
James Van Riemsdyk - Sam Bennett - Zack Hyman
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Michael Grabner

Morgan Rielly - Dougie Hamilton
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Calvin De Haan - Ron Hainsey

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15 Jun 2018 12:21:11
What happened to the fourth line?

15 Jun 2018 14:12:47
And where is Dermott?

15 Jun 2018 15:43:16
We can trade Lupul, his contract is done. He’s no longer a Leaf.

15 Jun 2018 16:11:19
*can’t trade Lupol’s. That was a typo in my previously reply.

I think every single one of these trades and signings make the Leafs worse.

Mostleaf33 is correct in saying that you are missing half the team.

16 Jun 2018 01:15:15
Joffrey Lupul wil be off Leafs books/ cap as of July 1st, 2018.
Not sure how he fits into this trade?
Hoffman is toxic and for the annual price point I much prefer Kapanen or Skinner or Simmons to Hoffman!

I do like trade #1 as it benefits both teams.
Might have to sweeten the pot a little before the Flames are interested.
Top pairing, RHD are at a premium in the NHL.

16 Jun 2018 01:45:27
Take out stink pants and put Dermott In.

16 Jun 2018 08:01:23
Why would you Hoffman and his skittles-for-brains wife anywhere near Toronto? Babcock is a family man, no way he wants that kind of toxicity in the locker room.

15 Jun 2018 05:02:45
Nothing groundbreaking here, just my hopes for the Leafs in the next two and a half weeks.

To TOR: Dougie Hamilton

To CAL: William Nylander

This has been floated out there for awhile but I think it really helps both teams. Hamilton would pair nicely with Rielly and would come cheaper than Carlson's projected salary. Nylander with Jankowski could form a dominant second line, leaving the 3M line in its proper place as the third line.

1st round - Leafs draft Ty Dellandrea at 25th. I actually believe this kid is the second best centre in the draft. If he played for the Soo he would be going ahead of Veleno.

2nd round - Leafs trade the 52nd pick, Pickard and Marincin for Detriot's 36th. Leafs draft best D man available (Woo, Lundqvist, Samuelsson, Beaudin).
Both of those players would make Detriot's team next year. I just really hope the Leafs do something to get a early 2nd round as picks 24 to 42 all seem to be interchangeable depending on the mock. Deep year

Free Agency

JVR signs for $6 mill x 7 years. Rumours are that he wants to stay so he takes a $1 mill haircut to do so. This also lessens the sting of losing Nylander

Joe Thornton signs a 2 year x $5 mill. Centres are lacking in FA this year. The Leafs need a third line centre so the Ontario boy joins his old buddy Marleau. Also this let's Dellandrea develop

New Lines:

Johnsson - Matthews - Hyman
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
JVR - Thornton - Kapenan
Martin - Lindholm - Brown

Rielly - Hamilton
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey

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15 Jun 2018 06:11:24
Nylander for Hamilton is a big no in my eyes, for the simple fact that Nylander’s contract is going to be 8 years, vs 3 years left on Hamilton’s contract. If we trade Nylander, would like to be able to control the incoming player for around the same duration.

Re-signing JVR is another no. Way too one-dimensional. He can’t put the puck in the net. But that’s about all he can do. He can’t hit, can’t fight, can't take a hit, can’t make plays, can’t take face offs, can’t block shots, can’t play defense. He’s very good at parking his ass in front of the net and picking up the garbage. But that’s about it. We need a better more rounded player for that kind of money.

Thornton is another no. Coming off pretty serious injury at his age, he’s already too slow to play the Leafs game, and certainly won’t be able to keep up with a very speedy Kapanen or Marleau. He won’t be cheap either. Would rather use that money to lock in an effective up and coming youngster who will be on the team many years.

15 Jun 2018 12:50:02
Honestly maybe if you were to sign Stastny instead of Thornton I may accept that signing
Also I have to agree the LeafsGM that we should let JVR go to free agency or trade his right during the draft to a team who really want him with some other assets for another 2nd line LW or something
Last thing is I would trade Kapanen and a first with maybe some other assets before trying Nylander.

15 Jun 2018 18:33:30
DL7, Nylander is worth a little more than Hamilton, although Hamilton is good, Nylander is better.

15 Jun 2018 21:00:31
I’m a leafs fan and even I know Hamilton is worth more. Hamilton is a top pairing big right handed defenseman who is still locked up for 3 years. He is exactly what the leafs need. Willie is a 60 point 20 goal elite top 6 forward but wingers don’t have the same value as right handed defenseman. Personally I think the leafs would have to Trade Nylander and a 2nd to get Hamilton and it would be a great deal for Toronto.

16 Jun 2018 01:25:03
Don't want or need JVR back. Especially at $6 million a year until he is 36 years old.
The last 3 - 4 years of his contract would be a cap destroyer.
No more big money, long term contracts for 29+ year old players for the Leafs, thanks.

Don't want or need a big money, 38 year old Joe Thronton. We already have one of those in Marleau and his contract will become a problem in 2019 - 2020

A right winger for a top pairing RHD, even if the winger is elete is a trade no self respecting, NHL, GM would make.

14 Jun 2018 20:30:10
1)To Colorado:
Auston Matthews
Nikita Zaitsev
2018 1st (25th overall)

for:
Nathan Mackinnon
Eric Johnston
2018 1st (16th overall)


2)To Buffalo:
Nylander,Liljegren,Brown
Colorados' 1st (16th)
2019 1st round

for:
Ryan O'rielly
Ristolainen
Okposo


3) to Calgary
Martin
Sparks
Leivo
Toronto 2018 2nd round

for
Tkatchuk


4) sign JT

new lineup:

Tkatchuk - MacKinnon - Marner
O'reilly - John Tavares - Okposo
Marleau - Kadri - Kapenen
Johnsson - Aaltonen - Bracco

Morgan - Ristolainen
Gardiner - Johnson
Dermott - Hainsy

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14 Jun 2018 21:11:17
Any trade that involves Matthews is absurd.

I didn’t even read past that.

14 Jun 2018 21:40:27
Creative thought but I doubt, good none the less.
Go Leafs!

14 Jun 2018 21:46:20
Leafs aren’t trading Matthews for jack rubbish unless it’s like Matthews for Mcdavid.

14 Jun 2018 21:49:07
Smiley, I think it is absurd to not hear and to be blind at the same time. (hope you at least have a sarcastic meter hat on when I say this) MacKinnon is no good and is old.
but in reality Nathan also will have a lower contract in due time allowing us to spread the wealth while still providing a great talent (along with making a trade for a solid D man in Eric to compliment the d core)

14 Jun 2018 21:55:26
@that guy, no way Dubas makes that big of a trade, u are throwing away Matthews, Liljegren, Nylander and so much other stuff for basically the same thing, no way
We don’t even know if Tavares will be available on the block.

14 Jun 2018 21:56:06
How old is Johnson 106

Smiley is right the Matthews trade is so insane no one reads beyond it.

14 Jun 2018 21:58:04
Ok Johnson is only 30 has so many miles on him. Seems he has been around forever.

14 Jun 2018 22:04:26
Martin no value
Sparks no value
Leivo little value

You add a second round pick

And want thachuk.


You have no idea what fairness is.

14 Jun 2018 23:01:13
What is up with the Calgary trade? In what world?

15 Jun 2018 00:31:52
Come on SmileyReilly. It’s all in fun.

1st trade - no. Mackinnon had an outstanding year last year, but question remains: was it a breakout season, or was it an anomaly? Mackinnon is cheaper, but Matthews appears to be the better player so far. Johnson is too expensive.

2nd trade - absolutely not. Way overpayment. O’Reilly is too expensive.

3rd trade - Calgary says no. Like Hacksaw always says, you’re offering Leafs garbage for Calgary gold.

You are bringing in an inordinate amount of salary. I never to the time to add it all up, but I find it hard to believe all these guys can fit under the cap.

15 Jun 2018 01:41:26
Martin, Sparks, Leivo and a 2nd for Tkachuk? Our garbage for a 1st line left wing?
Let's get serious!

15 Jun 2018 19:12:52
The dumbest comment I’ve seen on this site so far is that McKinnon is no good and old. I would trade Matthews for McKinnon in a heart beat.
I like the first deal.

 


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