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20 Jan 2018 16:42:30
TOR: JVR, Leo, Neilsen, T. Moore

CAR: Kuokkanen, McKeown, Roy, cond 1st (2nd if JVR bolts).

The Canes are in a position to move up the ladder if they get some scoring help.

JVR will do that for them.

The Leafs get 3 young prospects back. McKeown is NHL ready and Roy very shortly. They both have size.

Kuokkanen is 6'1" and will have to fill out, but he is only 19. He might be NHL ready next year.

The Leafs give up JVR who could extend with the Canes, Leo who can play anywhere and, Neilsen who may have nowhere to go on the Leafs given all the LHD.

In return the Leafs get a steady RHD, a young center prospect, a hulking center prospect in Roy and a conditional 1st.

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19 Jan 2018 15:20:10
TOR: JVR, Leo, Neilsen 8M approx

OTT: Hoffman, Ceci. 8M approx

Ottawa is not going to the playoffs this year and should start a re-tool right away. Well before the deadline, they should know what they want to do.

Toronto gets a decent young RHD and a small, but decent scorer to replace JVR for 3 years. RFA Ceci will want a raise, but that should be reasonable.

Ottawa gets JVR, Leo and a young D prospect back. JVR will boost their offence and Leo is much needed for their 3rd line after losing Turris. They can flip them to another team for picks/prospects, if they choose to retool, and keep Neilsen.

The Senators are a budget team and can't continue to pay elite money to Bobby Ryan for average results. They will probably buy him out. They may also move Karlsson, whom they should get a lot for, because he will be looking for 10M in a year and a half.

I expect the Senators will start a retool. They will have the option to not re-sign JVR and Leo, and that freedom may suit their plans better than sticking with Hoffman who is 28 for 3 years. They still get Neilsen in the package.

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1.) 19 Jan 2018 19:09:42
You’re right, Ottawa isn’t making the playoffs. Then why would they want two veterans on expiring contracts when a partial rebuild in on the horizon? JVR will need a raise and given Ottawa’s budget it’s unlikely they resign him. Nielsen is a B prospect with no guarantee to even be an NHL caliber player. This makes no sense for Ottawa to even consider it.


2.) 20 Jan 2018 13:36:31
Ottawa can move JVR and Leo for picks.


 

 

19 Jan 2018 15:20:10
TOR: JVR, Leo, Neilsen 8M approx

OTT: Hoffman, Ceci. 8M approx

Ottawa is not going to the playoffs this year and should start a re-tool right away. Well before the deadline, they should know what they want to do.

Toronto gets a decent young RHD and a small, but decent scorer to replace JVR for 3 years. RFA Ceci will want a raise, but that should be reasonable.

Ottawa gets JVR, Leo and a young D prospect back. JVR will boost their offence and Leo is much needed for their 3rd line after losing Turris. They can flip them to another team for picks/prospects, if they choose to retool, and keep Neilsen.

The Senators are a budget team and can't continue to pay elite money to Bobby Ryan for average results. They will probably buy him out. They may also move Karlsson, whom they should get a lot for, because he will be looking for 10M in a year and a half.

I expect the Senators will start a retool. They will have the option to not re-sign JVR and Leo, and that freedom may suit their plans better than sticking with Hoffman who is 28 for 3 years. They still get Neilsen in the package.

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19 Jan 2018 14:46:22
TOR: JVR, Ben Smith

WAS: Matt Niskanen, 2nd (FLO)

Caps need another LW after Ovie. The Caps are known to take rentals (Shattenkirk), and they clearly have a need for JVR. We move Ben Smith while he's hot, to get a contract space.

Niskanen is a constantly good defensive RHD with pretty decent offense. He lays out hits(147) and blocks a fair number of shots. He's not a fighter though.

His contract is a little harsh, but if we move Gardiner, much more palatable.

At 30, he shows little sign of decay, and while missing a few games this season; has been an iron man in terms of health

The Caps have Carlson to re-sign and Bowey, as well as Eller, Wilson, and Chiasson; all with a current cap space of less than 1M.

So JVR is a cheap, affordable, quality option for them, and they save 0.7 M this year.

The Leafs get their steady veteran RHD who actually has great balanced numbers offensively and defensively.

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1.) 19 Jan 2018 19:17:11
I like this trade. The 2nd would likely have to be conditional on JVR resigning. Niskanen would bring a presence the leafs lack. This would also finally force Babcock to play Polak less, if at all. Let him rotate our 3rd pairing between Borgman, Dermott and Carrick. Carrick likely ends as 7th man.


 

 

17 Jan 2018 15:01:14
VEG: Colin Miller(RHD), Lindberg, 2019 NYI 2nd.

TOR: Bozak, Carrick(RHD), Rychel (LW).

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20 Jan 2018 15:01:37
We don't need a LHD back. Have you not heard the Leafs have needed a RHD the last two years?

The Leafs would be better off with Nick Holden; and you don't need to give up anything but a late pick and a prospect for. But the problem is they still need him.

At this point, it seems Nash is no longer driven and he should just retire. Sad.

BUT!

The Rangers clearly need a 2nd/ 3rd line center, one that is good at faceoffs. (They have Peter Holland in their lineup? )

TOR: Bozak (50%), later 2nd. ; T. Moore, Carrick ( 3M)

Carrick is an NHL Dman, and Trevor has no where to go on the Leafs and is in the trade for the required balance of contracts.

At this point, it's better that the Leafs get something in return for Bozak. Holden is a decent 2nd, 3rd pair stay at home Dman. But that's all. The price for Bozak is Holden and the late 1st, and hopefully Day and Gettinger work out for giving up Moore and Carrick.

I hate giving up Carrick, but his days are numbered, with Liljegren and Rasanen coming up.

Sean Day is a risk. He's a big tank. He should be dominating the OHL right now and he's not been doing that with Windsor. He has played better since moving to the Frontenacs, so maybe the trade has drilled something in.

Gettinger is a project. He's a huge 6'6" LW, that has some offensive talent. He may make this deal worth the effort. He's almost a point per game with the Greyhounds and he's only 19. I project him as a 3rd line LW in 2-3 years.

Bozak will not play here next year, but if he plays well in NY, they may well extend him.

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20 Jan 2018 14:06:28
That is just about the most pathetic deal posted on this site.

Twitter is for morons and Presidents with small hands.

Patrick Kane will not make the Leafs a contender; he's good, but he's not Gretzky.

Seabrook is done. They will have to buy him out soon, if they still can.

The cap hit alone, is reason not to do this trade.

Let me guess. The Tweet was from Chicago, where the Twit lives.

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20 Jan 2018 13:57:37
I assume that you expect JVR to play out the season for them.

If so, you should make the 2nd rounder, a conditional 1st if he doesn't re-sign.

Of course, it appears they are going to the playoffs, and may want to keep JVR for the season as a rental.

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20 Jan 2018 13:54:36
Not really seeing the point. He's too expensive for his moderate stats and lightweight play. He won't make a good replacement for Bozak.

I'd rather keep Sosh and the pick.

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20 Jan 2018 13:51:51
You think Columbus is going to give up an 8thOA Dman who had a great start last year and is playing a good this year; all for a late 1st rounder?

Zadorov is terrible.

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