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12 Nov 2018 00:18:57
Pesce and Slavin for Nylander and Gardiner.
Leafs can then sign the M and M brothers and not lose for Gardiner at the end of this season, while locking up 2 defensemen at descent salaries for the next five seasons.
Carolina gets Nylander at say 7.5 for 7 seasons and can sign Gardiner because they have lots of room in salary cap next year.
Maybe that is why Carolina scouts are all over Leaf games.
1.) 12 Nov 2018 03:16:57
Why do you think Canes give up two of their top 4 dman and replace them with just Gardiner? Or is it "Giveaway" as someone on here likes to refer him as?
You aren't related to LeafsGM r u?
2.) 12 Nov 2018 06:09:30
@rocket
Pesce wasn’t a top 4 defenseman, he was 3RHD, or I guess as you would say, #6.
Gardiner/ Hamilton
DeHaan/ Faulk
Fleury/ TVR
*Bean
That’s still a formidable lineup. You know yourself Gardiner is a very good, if not near-elite offensive defenseman. Plus the ‘Canes get Nylander.
Carolina’s extraordinary depth at defense is what makes this trade a possibility. Most teams wouldn’t be able to entertain a proposal like that.
3.) 12 Nov 2018 11:15:21
I think this deal is a good start but more needs to be added but I don't know what more
Or who more
Just more.
4.) 13 Nov 2018 12:59:50
As I said originally Top 4 D for Canes would be Hamilton, Gardiner, Faulk and De Haan. Still a great D. Then add the best player in Nylander. The Canes would be thrilled with that.
The Leafs get 2 good defensemen that are signed up at good salaries for the next 5 years. They are now shored up defensively. Also this allows them to sign the M and M boys, and also get something for Gardiner, rather than nothing at the end of this year.
Some people would claim I'm a Canes GM and not a Leaf GM. If Gardiner can be signed by Canes, this is an even deal, with both teams gaining significantly.
08 Jul 2018 13:12:29
To Carolina: Kadri
To Leafs: Pesce and Rask.
Leafs get shut down right handed defenseman and third line center who is only going to play a max 10 minutes. Carolina gets a top scoring center to fill their need. Also salary comparison will not matter too much although Leafs spending a little more, however Kadri's contract is a bonus for Canes.
1.) 08 Jul 2018 14:03:23
Not bad.
2.) 08 Jul 2018 16:19:33
Kadri has a good contract for his skill and will be a really good leader playing between two young players who are looking to have their first full NHL season (Johnsson and Kapanen)
I want both of these players but I don't think we give up Kadri unless we absolutely have to
What I would do is trade Brown, a 1st, Leivo, Pickard, and maybe another top 9 forward prospect (Moore, Brooks) to get them because leafs already signed Ennis so they have room to spare on the wing, although Brown has a good contract too.
3.) 08 Jul 2018 16:56:26
No way Ladri is going anywhere.
Leafs have the best trio at center in the league right now. We can roll out three credible scoring lines. Kadri is effective both as a scoring threat, and as a shutdown center, having played most of his career on the third line shutting down the other team’s top players. With a very cap friendly contract for one of the games best two way centermen and possible future selke candidate, I expect Kadri will remain a Leaf for a few years still.
4.) 08 Jul 2018 17:18:36
Shut down center because of one good game against McDavid 2 years ago? Can you think of another team in the league that has blown more third period leads than the Leafs. ( Don't listen to the media on this subject. ) With a one goal lead and the faceoff in the Leafs end with one minute left in the game, I cringe, because I know you know who will lose the faceoff. Get a shut down center for 10 minutes a game and a great shut down defenseman like Pesce.
5.) 08 Jul 2018 17:26:11
Kadri is not going anywhere. One of the best contracts in the NHL for his production. The Leafs will trade prospects and picks to grab a RHD.
6.) 08 Jul 2018 17:36:06
Home games with Babs dictating matchup, putting Kadri out against the opponents top line and letting 34 or 91 feast on a third line? That will be disgusting. No way Doobie trades kadri when the Leafs can do that for the next four years. It's going to be gnarly.
7.) 08 Jul 2018 21:40:43
Idk why people keep putting Rask in these trades, the Leafs have no use for him and we are not trading Kadri.
8.) 08 Jul 2018 22:17:42
I watched Babs in the playoffs last year matching lines at home. Why was it every time Matthews was on the ice so was Chara? Maybe this is why Mathews was upset. Look, here is the deal. This year Kadri gets much less minutes because of 1A and 1B. You trade his 10 minutes a game and not close to another 30 goal season, while his contract and he is still valuable.
Get a Pesce and Rask in return. Pesce plays 20 minutes a game and your defensive game (almost last in the league in shots against) is solved. Not only that but you get a good faceoff guy in Rask, who has to be better in his own end than Kadri ever was.
9.) 09 Jul 2018 00:32:14
Dave watts
Lets look Pittsburgh playoffs last year
Crosby 20:18
Malkin. 18:57
Sheehan 15:35
Brassard 13:29
Your giving Kadri 10 min ice time
Give me a break
Kadri gets 15 plus minutes a game.
10.) 09 Jul 2018 03:28:05
And his 15 minutes is better than a shut down 3rd line center plus Peske's 20 minutes? Remember Leafs blow leads with Kadri shut down center.
11.) 09 Jul 2018 03:32:42
As a great GM once said 'Don't fall in love with your own players. " Folks have you not noticed that Kadri is not a great shut down 3rd line center. The Leafs need one and a sh
ut down right handed defenseman. What would it have looked like going into 3rd period against Boston with this instead of Gardiner doing his usual thing?
12.) 09 Jul 2018 04:55:52
I like the players you targeted but Kadri isn’t going anywhere in the foreseeable future. Our 1-2-3 punch is the best in the league. After that we don’t look good, even with Rask. We have other assets to aquire what we need.
Mathews and Tavares will both play ~20 mins a night. Kadri ~15, fourth line ~5 in a very limited role. It obviously fluctuate game to game to match up with opposing teams.
13.) 09 Jul 2018 06:05:13
I could see the 3rd/ 4th line wingers getting a more split rotation considering the depth, with 34/ 91 double-shifting. If Kadri is going to take on a shut-down role, I'd rather have Brown on his wing since he's also strong defensively. And with Kappy and Johnsson having so much speed and chemistry, they could take a few shifts a game with 91 and 34. I'm guessing we see 8-12 mins/ game from Kappy/ Johnsson/ Brown/ Ennis but only about 6-8 from the 4C, whoever that ends up being. Assuming no bottom-six winger gets moved for a top-4 RHD, obviously.
14.) 09 Jul 2018 06:37:24
I couldn’t agree with you more MarsBars.
I imagine Johnsson will only be used in the ozone against bottom 6. Unless he gets the golden ticket to play with 34/ 91 @ 5v5.
It’s going to be an exciting season. Even if we don’t aquire a dman I’m not concerned.
15.) 10 Jul 2018 03:57:53
Kadri is becoming one of the best shut down centres in the game. I doubt the Leafs trade him for Rask and Pesce but you never know.
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12 Nov 2018 16:15:41
Reply to Unbelievable at Nov. 12 at 03:16
Because the top 4 D for Canes is then Hamilton, Gardiner, Faulk and Dehaan with the addition of the best player in the deal Nylander. No I don't think I'm a Leafs GM, in fact some people would say I'm a Canes GM with that deal.
16 Jul 2018 13:32:50
I have a feeling that Dubas will not do anything about a right handed shooting defenseman. I think the team, as is, will be going to training camp. Their wish list is yes, a right handed defensive minded defenseman, who can be used on the penalty kill to give Hainsey some relief. I believe that defenseman is Igor Ozhiganov. Watch his highlights online.
12 Jul 2017 21:23:30
I know Babcock likes to have right handers playing right defence and left handers playing left defence. I would like to point out that many people on here are looking for a right defenceman for the Leafs to trade for. I
I'm suggesting here that perhaps Lamerillo and Babcock have changed their minds. The reason I say this is because of injuries, Reilly had to play the majority of time in the playoffs, on the right side. In my humble opinion he looked better on the right side than the left. Therefore the Leafs may be looking for either a left defenceman or a right defenseman.
13 Nov 2018 12:59:50
As I said originally Top 4 D for Canes would be Hamilton, Gardiner, Faulk and De Haan. Still a great D. Then add the best player in Nylander. The Canes would be thrilled with that.
The Leafs get 2 good defensemen that are signed up at good salaries for the next 5 years. They are now shored up defensively. Also this allows them to sign the M and M boys, and also get something for Gardiner, rather than nothing at the end of this year.
Some people would claim I'm a Canes GM and not a Leaf GM. If Gardiner can be signed by Canes, this is an even deal, with both teams gaining significantly.
09 Jul 2018 03:32:42
As a great GM once said 'Don't fall in love with your own players. " Folks have you not noticed that Kadri is not a great shut down 3rd line center. The Leafs need one and a sh
ut down right handed defenseman. What would it have looked like going into 3rd period against Boston with this instead of Gardiner doing his usual thing?
09 Jul 2018 03:28:05
And his 15 minutes is better than a shut down 3rd line center plus Peske's 20 minutes? Remember Leafs blow leads with Kadri shut down center.
08 Jul 2018 22:17:42
I watched Babs in the playoffs last year matching lines at home. Why was it every time Matthews was on the ice so was Chara? Maybe this is why Mathews was upset. Look, here is the deal. This year Kadri gets much less minutes because of 1A and 1B. You trade his 10 minutes a game and not close to another 30 goal season, while his contract and he is still valuable.
Get a Pesce and Rask in return. Pesce plays 20 minutes a game and your defensive game (almost last in the league in shots against) is solved. Not only that but you get a good faceoff guy in Rask, who has to be better in his own end than Kadri ever was.
08 Jul 2018 17:18:36
Shut down center because of one good game against McDavid 2 years ago? Can you think of another team in the league that has blown more third period leads than the Leafs. ( Don't listen to the media on this subject. ) With a one goal lead and the faceoff in the Leafs end with one minute left in the game, I cringe, because I know you know who will lose the faceoff. Get a shut down center for 10 minutes a game and a great shut down defenseman like Pesce.
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