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01 Jan 2019 00:12:56
Leafs trade Carl Grundstrom
Oilers trade Matthew Benning

An idea that's been floated around by Mackin a few times this season. With the additions of Manning and Petrovic, Chiarelli is clearly convinced he has a playoff team. Missing three defensemen (Sekera, Klefbom and Russell) is difficult to overcome, so Chiarelli acquired some stopgaps until those guys cone back. Benning was already playing 3rd pairing minutes and likely won't lose them now, but once Russell and Klefbom start to get healthy Benning's going to be the odd man out. I could see Chiarelli agreeing to something like this to avoid waiving Benning and losing him like Zykov.

Grundstrom is a near-NHL-ready prospect, though his ceiling looks like a bottom six grinding forward. Current bottom pair D for a likely future bottom six LW, seems fair to me.

MarsBars

1.) 01 Jan 2019 01:05:59
Benning doesn't have much value, Oiler fans themselves don’t really think of him highly. It def wouldn’t cost Grundy, whos playing well in the A, but I like the idea of Benning. i'd give up a 3rd.


 

 

29 Dec 2018 01:59:57
Here's a crazy suggestion for yall

Leafs claim Valentin Zykov off waivers

He can play both wings. He scored 33 goals for Charlotte last year. After losing Ennis and Hyman to injury, the Leafs could really use the reinforcements.

MarsBars

1.) 29 Dec 2018 07:02:33
Not so crazy. Leading scorer in the AHL last year. Never got a fair shake yet at NHL level. If Carolina doesn’t claim him back first and Leafs get a chance at claiming him, it’s well worth the risk. We can squeeze him on the roster I’m sure. Marincin and Ennis can both be made available to make room.


2.) 29 Dec 2018 14:36:37
Toronto should claim him. having zaitsev and ozhiganov may actually help this guy. he can score and on this team given the proper chance could do it a lot and thus when everyone is back make another expandable to get a rhd. carolina and edmonton only tested him on fourth line duties. try him out on either three lines for toronto and second power play and this guy could be a sleeper for success. love the idea. hopefully dubas does too.


3.) 29 Dec 2018 19:44:04
Claimed by vegas.


4.) 29 Dec 2018 21:38:10
Of course.


5.) 29 Dec 2018 22:19:18
Tragic.


 

 

26 Nov 2018 20:04:12
What If..

Leafs make no trades. Get Willy signed for an escalating salary that averages 7ish per year. Hyman and Tavares keep Marner clean on that line, so how about moving Kadri to 1LW? It gives the Leafs a top line that matches the big ones around the league (DAL, COL, BOS) and still leaves the third line with tons of talent. Kadri gets to play big minutes and can maintain his shutdown role. In the offensive zone, Kadri can play net front and let Matthews stay clean on the half wall.

Kadri-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Lindholm-Kapanen
Johnsson-Gauthier-Brown

With this configuration there's a steep drop off between 2C and 3C but Lindholm has shown that he can play 3C and has some awesome wingers to work with. Gauthier can keep doing his shutdown thing on 4C while also getting an upgrade on the wings.

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1.) 26 Nov 2018 22:40:56
Trade Brown + Zaitsev + Gardiner + 1ST rOUND for two RHD.


2.) 26 Nov 2018 23:07:58
Get rid of Gauthier. He is garbage. I would prefer they play Ennis over Gauthier. Gauthier looks disinterested in playing to me. Kinda reminds me of Andrea Bargnani except Bargnani had more talent than Gauthier but both have the disinterested, sleepish looking faces. Big and lazy, the both of them.


3.) 27 Nov 2018 00:27:25
LW not as strong as RW. If we aren’t going to trade for a true long term elite LW, maybe Kadri makes sense. He wasn’t doing much at 3C. After Matthews got hurt, he has been outstanding. Underutilized and misused at 3C. He really is an offensive force and if he could play that 1LW, would solve what is going to be a real problem for us after next year when Marleau is gone. Speaking of which, if Lindholm doesn’t cut it 3C, then Marleau would probably do a fine job for a year and half.


4.) 27 Nov 2018 03:04:03
Great idea. it would give two crazy lethal lines. I like lindholms game as 3 c.

You could always put kadri back if you get a lead.


5.) 27 Nov 2018 03:41:52
There’s some real good UFA’s we can consider too as rentals. Hayes for example. If the price is right, we can get someone like that to play 3C and Bob’s your uncle.


6.) 27 Nov 2018 07:39:38
@NylanderMagic

I've liked Gauthier as a depth guy. He knows his role, he's a shut down guy who plays the body and forechecks hard. He's skating a lot better than last year, when he was obviously still feeling the effects of that nasty leg break. We've already seen the space he creates for Leivo and Ennis by forechecking a tying guys up down low, very similar to how Hyman plays. He may not be scoring but he's driving play by being heavy and this 4th line has only been outplayed by Vegas' 4th. Otherwise they've been great.

@ArenSP

Agreed. If Lindholm does struggle Kadri could move down, but there are tons of options. Marleau can play C, and I think Zach Hyman would make a great shut down 3C. He's decent in the faceoff circle and has the size and grit to play either net front. He's my darkhorse future 3C.

@LeafsGM

We've seen the cost of bringing in Boyle and Plekanec, you'd have to figure Hayes would cost about the same at a minimum. For a team with tons of young talent and what will very soon be a top-heavy cap, the Leafs will need to conserve their futures to avoid ending up like LA and Chicago. I say hold onto the futures as much as possible, and bank on chemistry versus trying to win the cup on paper.


7.) 27 Nov 2018 12:56:43
Nylandermagic: So we get rid of Gauthier. I agree that he is not the greatest out there and boy with that size he could really be a force but he is not. He is signed at the minimum for 3 years and we do need that next year, plus he was drafted here, I say we keep him as he has come a long way and if he ever gets a goal everybody on that team will celebrate - sometimes that is more important than trades and free agents.


8.) 27 Nov 2018 21:17:18
@marsbars

Our pipeline sucks. None of those guys in our system other than Liljegren and Sandin are A-prospects. We definitely need to keep those low round picks. Bringing in a top end UFA like Hayes will be expensive and represent a “win now” mentality. But Dubas is too conservative to make a bold move like that. Winning now is fun, but we want to win again later too. I wouldn’t be surprised if Leafs bring in a defenseman maybe. But we are pretty saturated at forward. I actually only said Hayes because I was thinking about that whole Kadri on LW you brought up yesterday. If Hayes was our 3C, that’s a more than adequate replacement. We could easily put Kadri beside Matthews then. Just a thought.


 

 

16 Oct 2018 18:19:44
Drawing a little bit from the Kessel-to-Toronto trade here

Leafs trade Willy
Coyotes trade Pierre-Oliver Joseph, 1st rd pick 2019, 1st rd pick 2020

P. O. Joseph is a big, gritty, mobile junior defender who will take some seasoning but could blossom into a 2nd/ 3rd pairing D and would make the Marlies next year. Both 1st round picks would probably be lottery picks. The two 1sts Boston got from TO for Kessel turned into Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton, and with Dubas being an excellent scouting talent I have no doubt he'd put them to good use. This would also free up Doobs to spend more at the deadline for two straight years, knowing he still has a high draft pick he can lean on.

The Coyotes really suck and need an infusion of talent. Willy's immediately their best player, and should elevate the scoring around him. Just not enough to win games muahaha.

Thoughts? I know the coyotes would probably want to send some bigger contract back, but I'm choosing to opt out of that.

MarsBars

1.) 16 Oct 2018 19:02:27
Very similar to the Brayden Schenn deal as well, which landed Philly very highly rated prospects Frost and Farabee. It frees up cap space and brings in futures, while dumping Nylander on a team where he can’t come back to hurt us. It’s a pretty safe trade that demonstrates astute cap and asset management. Dubas’ record at draft stands for itself. We could end up getting a couple players of equal or better caliber than Nylander if everything goes right.


2.) 16 Oct 2018 19:47:53
Arizona will NOT be giving up their first round picks for the next 5 years or so.


3.) 16 Oct 2018 20:49:36
Why not, it's not like they use them.


4.) 16 Oct 2018 22:11:08
Ohhh burn, you got me there, but seriously I highly dought this trade goes down because the leafs could probably get 2 more Nylanders with those picks since the leafs will have them and not the coyotes, so no bad picks will actually be made.


5.) 17 Oct 2018 04:01:05
@mostleaf I'm not sure I understand your argument. I agree that there's the possibility of getting 2 very good players at those spots, but as Hrenklin pointed out, Arizona has a tendency of missing on those picks. Maybe they go for the sure thing in Nylander instead of bringing in another Dlyan Strome, Nick Merkley, Brendan Perlini, Max Domi, Henrik Samuelsson, Mikkel Boedker, Connor Murphy, Brandon Gormley. Though Turris (gone), Keller and OEL were good picks. The jury's still out on Hayton, Chychrun and Joseph. Heck of a lot more misses than hits. In conclusion, Arizona sucks at drafting. A sure thing in Willy would probably be of more use to them than 2 1sts and Pierre-Oliver Joseph. Keller-Dvorak-Nylander would be a pretty juicy top line for them.


6.) 17 Oct 2018 04:02:19
Sorry, that's Keller-Stepan-Nylander.


7.) 17 Oct 2018 04:33:31
Hrenklin brings up a good point here, and it makes me wonder how teams like Arizona, and even more so, Edmonton, can continually draft all these busts? Is it the scouts? I don’t really think so, because there are so many analysts, and consensus seems to reach an agreement on where these players fall. Is it the players? Again, I don’t really think so, as these guys all played exceptionally well enough at the highest levels available to them to impress the scouts enough to be drafted high. Is it the coaches after draft not developing them or using them properly? This seems to hold the most truth in my eyes, as gm’s tend to draft the best player available regardless of position without necessarily taking into account what the team needs most. As a result, a lot of players get buried behind other players of the same position, while open positions on the team remain unfilled. Look at Vegas: all those guys were given up on by their old team. And yet look what they accomplished. If we waive Leivo, could he be the next William Karlsson because we misused him this whole time simply because of how deep we are in wing? Look at Taylor Hall: seems really fishy that once he got out of Edmonton he has a career year and wins the Hart Trophy on a team not known for offense and without anyone near McDavid or Draisaitl’s capability.

So how exactly is it possible for these guys to keep drafting busy after bust after bust and never get better, while a team like Toronto can snag three good draft picks and turn themselves into cup contenders seemingly over night? It’s hard to believe that less than three years ago, the captain of this team was Dion Phaneuf. Who I hated almost as much as No Skill Gill.


 

 

11 Oct 2018 20:38:11
Leafs trade Will Nylander
Wild trade Luke Kunin, Greg Pateryn, 1st round pick, 3rd round pick

Pateryn's on a sweet little contract and brings some excellent defensive zone ability to a blueline in need. Kunin projects as a very good middle 6 centre or right winger and is cost-controlled for years. The draft picks are something we know Dubas will put to good use.

Minnesota needs some high end scoring to push them over the edge in the playoffs, and they don't surrender much off the roster. The new Wild GM gets to make a move to bet on the current roster while also helping the club's future.

I think this trade is a win for both clubs.

MarsBars

1.) 12 Oct 2018 00:38:25
I like it. We save money, bring in immediate help on defense, bring in a high end prospect that can replace Kadri and/ or Tavares in the long term, plus we get the picks. It helps us now and in the future.

I don’t think Leafs are going to get a straight up 1:1 trade and will likely need to settle for a package similar to this.

Not sure Minny can afford Nylander and his obnoxious salary demands though. Would have to take a cap dump coming our way of some sort?


 

 

 

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14 Feb 2019 23:46:15
Actually Alzner's CF is considerably, almost deceivably higher. Their CFRel is nearly identical though at -3.5 and -3.9 respectively, furthering your point that Alzner and Zaitsev both appear to suck.

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13 Feb 2019 23:25:21
If Philly would go for that, I'm all for it. The value seems fair enough. My only reservation, I'm not convinced Philly will be selling at the deadline. Carter Hart is the Truth. Since they called him up Philly's been on a tear, I could legitimately see them buying at the deadline. They've been a goalie away from contention for a while now, but I think they found one now.

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12 Feb 2019 21:27:54
The Laefs shouldn't be trading a 20+ ATOI defenseman for a fourth liner. The Leafs already have a tough decision to make with Ennis, no need to add another 4th line body. Losing Zaitsev hurts the Leafs depth and leaves them very thin on D next year. And throwing in a 2nd round pick serves no purpose, if anything the Kings should be throwing more in.

I don't see any positives in the short or long term in regards to this trade suggestion.

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07 Feb 2019 01:39:05
I don't know how the Leafs afford Marner after bringing in Manson (4M+ in 2019) and Zadorov (Rfa with arb rights in 2019). You're adding probably 9-10M onto next year's cap while only subtracting Johnsson, who i'm guessing would probably only make 1.5-2.5M next year depending on term. The Leafs only have about 14M in space next year, so Marner + Kapanen have to split the remaining 4 million when the two of them almost need the full 14.

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15 Jan 2019 09:59:15
I really like everything I've read about Hollowell. We'll know more if and when he gets a shot with the Marlies. Along with Durzi and Sandin, it looks like Dubas picked a few solid defensemen in his first draft.

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