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16 Sep 2018 23:55:48
Leafs trade William Nylander

Flames trade Dillon Dube, Rasmus Andersson, 2019 1st, 2020 1st

Throwing a change-up here, Kyle Dubas in a classic "Five-Year-Plan" move, trades Nylander for nothing but picks and prospects. Solid haul, but nothing that offers any substantial reward for the coming season.

MarsBars

1.) 17 Sep 2018 00:57:23
Nylander playing with fire getting bad advice. Leafs could get Nash and go after futures for nylander

Hyman Tavares marner
Marleau Matthews kapanan
Johnson kadri brown

4th line is 4th line

Leafs can live without nylander.


2.) 17 Sep 2018 01:14:18
Too much from Calgary. That would be 4 players that will be in an nhl lineup and contribute.


3.) 17 Sep 2018 01:55:16
Solid trade if prospects and picks is the goal

Flames wouldn't be able to sign Nylander. They only have 2.5 million in cap space remaining.

It's a good conversation starter though.


4.) 17 Sep 2018 02:31:55
You know who might be a better option for a trade like this is Buffalo. With three first round picks next year, they have plenty to spare. If it’s Buffalo’s own, we may even get a lottery pick.

Not sure how I feel about trading Nylander for picks and prospects. The rebuild is over. We only have Tavares for 7 years. It’s actually not all that long of a window of opportunity. I think we would be better off bringing in young, inexpensive depth players with upside potential to fill in the lineup.

Leafs prospect pipeline is thin. Liljegren is the only highly rated prospect in the system. I think Dubas looks at the draft as a bit of a crap shoot. The more picks you have the better the chances of finding gold. Maybe a combination of picks and prospects/ players similar to what Buffalo got for O’Reilly?


5.) 17 Sep 2018 08:12:49
@Jminn yeah I could see it being an overpayment by Calgary. I posted this trade back a couple months ago, long before there was any fan interest in trading Willy. I feel like it's not too far off though when comparing to the Paccioretty trade, especially considering what the Knights gave up for Tatar in the first place. Granted Tatar didn't exactly living up to expectations in Vegas.

I was thinking another team to trade with could be Colorado. Timmins, Kamenev and a 1st?


 

 

13 Sep 2018 18:26:28
Here's a wild one.

Leafs trade Nathan Horton, Connor Carrick
Canucks trade 6th round pick

Leafs resign Willbags, 5yr 6.75M/yr

Reason being, the Leafs have a big cap crunch next year, and LTIR only kicks in once the season starts. If a team is over the cap once the season starts and before LTIR kicks in, they incurr a cap penalty equal to that overage the following year. So the cap relief provided by LTIR can come back to bite the Leafs if that penatly results in an overage the following offseason.

Canucks take on the Horton burden in exchange for a decent right-shooting, puck moving defenseman, of which they have zero.

MarsBars

1.) 13 Sep 2018 22:00:08
Ya the leafs should actually look into this, throw in Pickard and the Canucks should take it.


 

 

13 Sep 2018 15:36:59
My contribution to the Wee Willy Panic Express

Leafs trade "Wild" Bill Nylander
Blues trade Colt "45" Parayko

Because if we need to move an elite forward, why not just take back an awesome young defenseman who checks literally every box and is also on a wicked sweet contract.

Also moving forward, Martina Luis-Ortiz will split her anthem duties with Afroman, who will perform our dear national anthem in the style of slam poetry. The lights go dim, the 'fro drags a tall stool out to centre ice, lights up a tasty cigarette and drops mad patriotism.

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1.) 13 Sep 2018 15:51:36
If the leafs trade Nylander, they will have nobody to replace him, they need to trade for a guy like Panarin or DeBrincat, or maybe even someone like Eberle just so they don’t get kicked out in the first round again.


2.) 13 Sep 2018 16:53:48
Maybe if we trade Nylander for Parayko or Dumba, the easy solution would be to move Gardiner to wing. He thinks he’s a winger already anyway.


3.) 13 Sep 2018 16:57:16
I disagree most leaf no nylander lines

Marleau Matthews marner
Hyman Tavares brown
Johnsson kadri kapanen
Leivo lindholm ennis/ grundstrom

Reilly parayko
Giveaway giveaway#2 (zaitsev)
Dermott hainsey
Carrick joris

Freddie sparks.

He'll toss in mac or Picard if they are worries about their back up situation.

This team is still very offense heavy without nylander.

They say Tavares makes players better around him see what he can do for 2 work horses on his line.


4.) 13 Sep 2018 17:07:51
@Randy

I think Leafs good even without Nylander, you’re right. For your lineups though, I would suggest breaking Hyman and Brown up on the top lines. Something like:

Hyman/ Matthews/ Marner
Marleau/ Tavares/ Brown

Now you have a speedy, skilled player and a grinder workhorse type player with a large power forward center on each each of our top lines. Seems like the kinds of matchup that Babcock likes.


5.) 13 Sep 2018 17:29:56
really, you want brown on the second line, and when Dubas told Tavares he would play with Marner
Ha what a joke.


6.) 13 Sep 2018 17:47:51
Even without Willieburger the possibilities are endless.

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Brown

The Leafs are three deep at every top 9 position without Wilfred, and Matthews with that much speed and tenacity on his wings would be a terror. The top six can even be switched, but out of respect for JT I think Marner would stay with Tavares.

Not to mention the rental winger market. Eberle, Nyquist, Zuccarello, Vanek, Skinner and Stone all play for bad teams and thus should be available at the deadline.


7.) 13 Sep 2018 18:34:12
Hyman/ Tavares/ Marner
Marleau/ Matthews/ Kapanen
Johnsson/ Kadri/ Brown
Ennis/ Lindholm/ Leivo
OR
Marleau/ Matthews/ Panarin, Eberle
Hyman/ Tavares/ Marner
Johnsson/ Kadri/ Kapanen
Ennis or Leivo/ Lindholm/ Brown
What looks better?


8.) 14 Sep 2018 02:01:05
To think Leafs could have had De Brincat with their 2nd round pick. Instead draft "Guru" Hunter took Korshkov whom he could have chosen with Leafs 3rd round pick as no one else was interested.
Good thing Shanahan didn't make Hunter the GM or Leaf fans would have been subjected to another decade of the JFJ, Burke, Nonis syndrome.


 

 

10 Sep 2018 09:50:39
Leafs trade Connor Carrick, Josh Leivo, 3rd round pick

Panthers trades Alex Petrovic, Derek Mackenzie

The Panthers have some young guys at C (Vatrano, Borgstrom) and D (Weegar) as well as Kiselevich from Russia who are ready for an NHL job. They also signed Mark Letestu to a PTO, who played well last year. Mackenzie and Petrovic are pending UFAs - the Panthers may be interested in moving them both out for younger pieces.

Leafs add two guys who fit their specific needs (defensive 4C, defensive defenseman) without sacrificing any roster players. Petrovic has been a bottom-pairing guy his whole career and Mackenzie has played 4C his whole career, so I think the value is pretty fair.

On the subject of Petrovic, I think he would make an excellent partner for Jake Gardiner. He's big, physical and defensively responsible, which is the exact opposite of Gardiner and could provide good balance. Thunder and Lightning.

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Ennis-MacKenzie-Brown

Reilly-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Petrovic
Dermott-Hainsey

MarsBars

1.) 11 Sep 2018 02:48:15
See this is something realistic I could see happening Atta boy Mars.

I do think we will be fine with Ozhiganov and Lindholm but Petrovic would be nice to have.


2.) 11 Sep 2018 00:44:38
I like it. Maybe a bir more needed from Toronto, and FLA can keep MacKenzie, he's their captain, and i'd rather try lindholm or possibly nick shore. But good idea imo.


3.) 11 Sep 2018 06:23:41
Well thanks folks. I definitely think the Leafs roster is fine the way it is, but if Lindholm and Jooris don't work out I would hate to see the Leafs move another 2nd round pick for a rental 4C at the deadline. That's why I targeted MacKenzie, his faceoff numbers are good and he's solid in the D-zone, which are qualities Babcock loves in his 4C.

I also don't see the Leafs moving Gardiner at the deadline, the fear of losing him for nothing is loser talk to me. We'll keep him, let Dermott continue to develop, and as long as the 3 LDs each have a solid compliment Babs will be able to roll pairs at will in the playoffs. That's why I targeted Petrovic - on his own he's not that special, but he should be able to cover for Gardiner in a clearly defined complimentary role.


 

 

31 Aug 2018 21:54:24
Leafs trade Josh Leivo, Calle Rosen, 4th round pick

Oilers trade Jujhar Khaira

Rosen can play third pair to replace the injured Sekera, and after his run on the Marlies he could turn out to be a steal for them. Leivo gets the change of scenery he so badly needs, and could move up and down Edmonton's lineup as a scoring winger.

Khaira joins the competition for 4C and has shown some grit and scoring ability. He was counted on for a lot of D zone starts in Edmonton and seems like a natural Babcock 4C. With his versaility and ability to score, he also insulates the team against injury along the left wing.

This is a small bottom-roster move that seems like the sort of thing the Leafs might pull the trigger on right before training camp. I wanted to include Pickard in this trade, but Edmonton gave 2.5M to Koskinen to be their backup - I don't see them having any interest in Pickard.

MarsBars

1.) 01 Sep 2018 01:01:41
It’s depth moves like this that wins cups. Would love to have Khaira in the team, and if Edmonton makes him available for the right price, Leafs should consider it. They can do a lot worse than pursue Khaira.


2.) 01 Sep 2018 03:28:28
I like it.
But remove the 4th.


3.) 01 Sep 2018 03:50:06
4th round pick not required. this deal is good for Rosen and Leivo. good trade .

Like your thinking.


 

 

 

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19 Sep 2018 20:07:25
I'd be a fan of moving Nylander, especially if it brought back a 1RHD. I'd also be very happy with a package similar to, but of greater value than, what Montreal got for Patches. They really nailed that trade. Even if Willy signed an offer sheet I'd be thrilled - imagine the damage Doobs could do with 4 extra first round picks. That price is naturally the reason he won't, but a man can dream.

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19 Sep 2018 19:41:55
To me, moving the Horton contract before next season will be vital to ensure no cap overages. But if you subtract Hortons contract, the Leafs have 18M in space right now. Gardiner and Hainsey off the books brings it up to 25. Is that enough to sign all three of those guys? Yikes. Even after all that, Doobie has his work cut out for him. Cap hell is right around the corner.

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19 Sep 2018 17:20:00
It seems to me that trading the entire 2nd pair to strengthen the first pair creates a much larger void than it fills.

Reilly-Johnson
Dermott-Hainsey
Borgman-Ozhiganov
Carrick

Yarp that's a pretty green D.

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19 Sep 2018 15:54:58
This does seem very plausible. I could at the very least see Dermott start with the Marlies until the RHD position is settled, since all the LHDs are waiver exempt and Carrick and Holl are not. Carrick in particular would likely be claimed if he were put on waivers.

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19 Sep 2018 08:54:32
Horton's not on LTIR until the season starts, and if a team is over the cap when the season starts they incurr a cap penalty the next year and lose cap space. Moving horton's last year off the books actually does make sense, and a 4th round pick seems like appropriate payment for Arizona taking on that burden. I'm 100% in favour of this trade.

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