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08 Apr 2018 13:45:19
Leafs Off-season

1. Sign Carlson. He's a top line RHD, fills a big need, and will come cheaper than the elite guys who will be available next year. 6 year, 8.5 AAV.

2. Resign Tyler Bozak. His down year points wise should make him fairly cheap. 4 years, 4.5 AAV.

3. Trade Connor Carrick to Edmonton for Jujhar Khaira. I like Khaira, he's a big, youn, gritty C/LW with tons of room for growth.

4. Draft a centre in the first round, McLeod or Olofsson should be available when the Leafs pick and both project as solid 2-way centres. I particularly like McLeod.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Brown-Kadri-Marner
Marleau-Bozak-Kapanen
Johnsson-Khaira-Leivo

Reilly-Carlson
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey

Andersen, McElhinney

MarsBars

1.) 08 Apr 2018 18:26:53
I think the Leafs should go for a big center too. It doesn’t look like the center position has a lot of high caliber players thisnyears draft. Defensemen seem to be the hot commodity this year. 6/ 10 of projected top ten are defensemen, while center doesn’t even make top ten (Veleno is projected to go 11th) . So there should still be plenty of centerman left for leafs to choose when it’s their turn.


2.) 08 Apr 2018 18:36:43
The Carrick trade is interesting. Edmonton might be looking to unload salary, so maybe we can make him part of larger paxckage for one of their defensemen.


3.) 08 Apr 2018 19:49:12
Too much for Bozak who's is a 3rd line C.


4.) 08 Apr 2018 22:51:23
Nuge and their first
gardiner carrick leivo or brown a marlie, 2nd next year 3rd this year.


5.) 08 Apr 2018 23:32:24
Torontobuds

I feel like 4.5 is still under market value, and retaining Bozak at a discount is probably the cheapest way to fill the 3C spot, not to mention the value that familiarity brings. Plus replacing JVR with Marleau and moving up Kapanen would give Bozak two speedy wingers who can score and play sound defensively. Marleau is somewhat wasted on the Kadri line, as Marner and Kadri play pitch and catch constantly.

Tavares, Stastny and Thornton will all cost much more, and I'm not sure their added value would be worth the cap squeeze. Maybe lower the term to three years, but I don't see Bozie resigning for less than he makes now. And after Matthews and Kadri, the organizational depth at C is scary bad.


6.) 09 Apr 2018 01:56:59
MarsBars

You nailed it. Depth at C is pretty shallow. Currently I have Aaltonen slotted 4C, and Bozak 3C. Of course Bozak might not re-sign, and Aaltonen has never played nhl game before. So it’s very possible neither of them are on team start of next year. The Goat might be able to share 4C position with Aaltonen. After that, we have nobody who is capable of stepping in to what may be 3C and 4C position. We would have to trade for them, and thAt could cost valuable assets

We drafted heavily on defense the last two years, I expect Leafs will want to change that this year. They should be drafting big bodied able centerman,


 

 

29 Mar 2018 10:51:57
Anaheim get William Nylander
Toronto gets Josh Manson

Anaheim takes the deal because it helps improve their scoring big-time. Leafs take the deal because it greatly solidifies the D, specifically on the right side. Also, Willy seems to perpetually be in Babcock's doghouse, so I could see Babs being thrilled with a move like this. Manson is a beast who adds a lot to the team defensively and on the PK. RHDs are a much more rare commodity than soft wingers, so I think the value lines up with the market.

There really is no "Big 3" in Toronto at this point, Matthews and Marner are way ahead of Nylander right now. This also opens the door to resign Bozak and add a decent top six wingerto play with him. I'd love to see a move for James Neal at 5x6M.

Hyman-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Neal-Bozak-Brown
Johnsson-Aaltonen-Leivo

Reilly-Manson
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey

Andersen, McBackup

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1.) 29 Mar 2018 12:03:45
Ah yes, let's trade extremely young and talented forwards who are just maturing into their role for dman that we could use but are clearly not worth that. AND, then let's sign an old man to replace the offence lost by that traded away young forward.

Theres literally no need for this. keep Willy, don't go after someone like Neal for no reason, were trying to move away from the Nonis years of throwing money at old farts (Clarkson, robidas, etc), and sign a dman like De Haan or Cole as a stopgap, pr trade someone like Brown/ Bracco for d help.


2.) 29 Mar 2018 13:58:36
Manson is an awesome player having a career year. He's very young and signed to a very reasonable 5M per year. He's also very physical, something this D clearly lacks. Considering the positional value, I think that's a fair trade. Better than the Hall/ Larsson or Drouin/ Sergachev trades in terms of return, but proposed under the same model.

Also Neal is to replace JVR, and is an upgrade in terms of two-way ability. He's only 30 so he still has good years left in him, which for Neal would be consistently scoring 20+ goals and providing two-way support.

Cole and de Haan are LDs, and aren't even upgrades over our third pair guy Dermott. And Brown or Bracco would net a return who could what, maybe compete with Carrick? Don't get me wrong, I love Brown. But his value to the Leafs and Babs is higher, to me, than what could be received in a trade. As in other teams won't pay what the Leafs would want.

At the end of the day, my rationale is Babcock. There's a reason Hyman is near the top of the team in ice time and JVR near the bottom, as an example. Nylander can't seem to earn Babcock's trust. It seems like he's a logical candidate to be moved if he doesn't turn up his compete.


3.) 29 Mar 2018 16:13:34
Your not trading core pieces in entire system leafs have 3 traceable players

Gardiner
Brown
Hyman

They just do t k ow yet who will make it or not so you don't trade.


4.) 29 Mar 2018 17:03:41
Manson is 26 and you think he is "very young"?!?!


5.) 29 Mar 2018 17:41:10
If you are going to sign Neal, you may as well just re-sign JVR.

Nylander for Manson straight up is a tough one. I agree with the assessment - each player would fill a need for the respective teams. But damn. I really like Nylander.

In the end, I think Leafs should pull the trigger on a trade like this if they can. Manson is signed for another four years and is inexpensive. He is exactly what we are looking for in RHD. Losing Nylander would hurt, but we are deep in wingers. got to give to get.


6.) 29 Mar 2018 20:21:35
Manson is awesome. had no idea he was a sixth round pick. What an absolute steal. As much as I love Nylander, that would probably be the asking price for a dman of his calibre.


 

 

20 Feb 2018 18:08:35
Leafs offered a 5th for Glendenning and the Wings countered with a 2nd. Which, despite the high asking price, means they're willing to deal. How about putting a package together somewhat equivalent to a 2nd?

DET: Josh Leivo, 3rd rd pick
TOR: Luke Glendenning

Glendenning's contract is pretty favourable at l.8M. And while some would question the term, I might call it long-term stability at a position Babcock values, with a player he trusts. I say don't break the bank, but make it happen.

MarsBars

1.) 20 Feb 2018 18:51:13
not bad

i would say leivo or 3rd

too much for 4th liner

wings need to eliminate some salary as they are up against so they may just take either or.


2.) 20 Feb 2018 19:07:08
I would prefer Leivo and a 4th, but it's always tough trading within the division. Considering what the Leafs got for Sosh and what the Wings got for Mrazek, seems like Leivo's value is a 4th at best and I think the Wings are looking to really collect some futures for their roster cleanup. Leivo plus a 4th seems like the right value, but the Wings have some leverage so to make it happen, the Leafs might have to overpay just a tad.


3.) 20 Feb 2018 20:27:50
Stay away from that guy his numbers are terrible!


4.) 21 Feb 2018 08:39:04
He's winning faceoffs at 58% right now and is excellent both defensively and on the PK. Those are the "numbers" Babs is looking for in a 4C.


5.) 21 Feb 2018 13:11:06
He scores at a rate worse than Martin, rarely (if ever) has played a full season, and has bad possession numbers.

He does play well defensively, he's cheap, and is good on faceoffs. He could be an add to a team looking to go deep into the playoffs.

However, the Leafs are better off putting Leo at 4th line center for decent offence, hitting, back checking, and good defence. Would be nice if Leo had better faceoff stats, but you can't have everything.

So forget Luke, and solve the problem mostly in house.

Use Leo, find the best LW to replace Martin (I would try the Goat on LW to make up for his lack of speed and add size), and upgrade the 3rd pair RHD with someone who can take over Martins duties.

Gudbranson would be perfect if he could only play hockey.


6.) 21 Feb 2018 14:47:17
Glendenning: 0.298 pts/ game this year (14/ 47)
D. Moore: 0.250 pts/ game this year (11/ 44)
Komarov: 0.241 pts/ game this year (15/ 62)
Martin: 0.234 pts/ game this year (11/ 47)

Meanwhile Komarov spent the bulk of the year with Kadri, and most of Martin's points came with Willy or Mitch on a 4th line timeout. Glendenning hasn't played with anyone near that caliber.

Having Leo at C would be nice with the left shot/ right shot action between him and Kap, except Komarov has curling stones for hands.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the Leafs intend to go deep into the playoffs this year. Glendenning feels like a perfect fit.


 

 

16 Feb 2018 17:47:09
VAN: Josh Leivo, Connor Carrick, 3rd rd pick 2018

TOR: Chris Tanev

Vancouver gets to add to its plethora of cheap young talent, Toronto gets its top-pair RHD.

Reilly-Tanev
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey

MarsBars

1.) 16 Feb 2018 18:42:32
Either Leivo straight up or Carrick and a 3rd, not both.


2.) 16 Feb 2018 18:59:18
Leivo's played what, 25 games over two years? Carrick's played about 100, and is clearly a 3RHD. Meanwhile Sosh just went for a 4th rd pick next year. how do you figure Leivo's market value is so high? A few goals last year?


3.) 16 Feb 2018 19:45:50
i would take tanev

would not be top pair on this team maybe he plays top pair in van

surprising enough hainsey has been good on top pair.


4.) 16 Feb 2018 20:00:06
I would do this trade. I think it’s a pretty good trade for both team, though maybe slightly in Leafs favor. Neither Leivo or Carrick are what I would call established NHL players while Tanev is.

I think if Vancouver is serious about re-tooling, then this could be a way for Leafs to take advantage. We give Vancouver back a pretty good defensive right hand defenseman to replace Tanev, and they get Leivo too.

If Vancouver does this trade, Leafs should pull the trigger.


 

 

14 Feb 2018 15:19:39
EDM: Josh Leivo, Jeremy Bracco

TOR: Jujhar Khaira

Edmonton gets a winger who can play for the team on any line for the next year+, and a good prospect with tons of offensive upside.

Toronto gets a young, physical power forward who can play 4C for the playoff run while auditioning for a spot replacing the vets next year. Can play either C or LW, so a possible replacement for Komarov or Moore with an outside chance at taking a 3rd line role.

MarsBars

1.) 14 Feb 2018 15:50:10
Hold onto bracco more upside that the kid from Edmonton.


2.) 14 Feb 2018 20:11:11
horrible

no reason to trade bracco

leivo just get pick to help with 50 man roster crunch

Khaira isn't helping edm why do you think he would help here.


3.) 15 Feb 2018 01:35:07
Khaira's got great size, physicality and a mean streak. Can play LW or C, two positions the Leafs don't have a bounty of. He would immediately be an upgrade over Moore, and could fit in a variety of roles on a team whose pending UFAs are all bottom-six C-LW.

That's why I think he would be helpful here. He fits the open roster spots next year, is a young and ascending player with a diverse skill set, and is being paid nickels for the next year and a bit. Good depth player to have who's young with room to improve.

Leivo has no place on this team, and Bracco's a long shot based on the Leafs having similar yet far better players in Willy and Mitch. Losing a contract frees up Lou to play the waiver wire, and I'd rather lose Bracco than a 2/ 3 round pick in this draft.


4.) 15 Feb 2018 20:30:40
If Lievo has no place on this team then neither does Khaira. Khaira will not be an upgrade from Moore.


5.) 16 Feb 2018 04:55:17
Khaira plays the positions the Leafs are weaker in and have spots available (C/ LW) . Leivo plays RW, where his spot on the depth chart is "press box". And Khaira is definitely an upgrade over Moore, both offensively and defensively. He's built like Gauthier and Boyle, which is exactly what Babs wants I his 4C.

Maybe I overvalued Khaira in my trade proposal, but Khaira seems like a perfect fit for Babs and the Leafs for this year and next. At the same time, if sosh only goes for a 4th, then what exactly is Leivo's value? If he's only worth a 4th/ 5th then I think my valuation was fairly spot on.


 

 

 

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17 Apr 2018 09:06:49
I think a better return on Nylander is a top pairing defenseman. Leafs have wingers for days, and the free agent market is bloated with wingers. There will be bargains to be had if the Leafs find themselves needing to sign a winger. Grabner or Maroon could come cheap after guys like Kane, JVR, Perron, Neal and Stone get paid.

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17 Apr 2018 09:00:20
Martin doesn't play C. Who plays 4C? Surely not Kapanen or Johnsson. So what, a massive line blender? Johnsson and Moore both looked good tonight. Martin still doesn't fit. Leafs stay the course, with Moore and Johnsson sitting when Kadri and Komarov come back.

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17 Apr 2018 01:08:58
Except who do you sit? Sitting Johnsson for Komarov is already almost questionable. The only way Martin slotting in makes sense would be moving a winger to centre, and not was that a disaster in game 2.

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16 Apr 2018 01:38:03
Two week ago you scoffed at the idea of trading Nylander and treated it like utter blasphemy. Now you think it's a must-happen?! It's just two games, and against a team that's widely considered to be the best team in the East.

Breathe please. Inhale, exhale, repeat.

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09 Apr 2018 15:36:57
Nielsen is still very young. He was selected in the same draft as Marner, Dermott and Bracco, lest we forget. And defensemen can take a while to develop. Considering Nielsen's low value right now, I think it makes more sense to keep him on the Marlies for at least another season and see what happens.

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