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16 Oct 2018 22:25:29
Leafs: Nylander, Gardiner, Leivo
Jackets: Panarin, Murray, Anderson

Panarin-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Anderson
Ennis-Lindholm-Brown

Rielly-Murray
Dermott-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Ozighanov

Andersen
Sparks

Instead of putting Murray on 2LHD, we put him next to Rielly to be a good defensive defenseman.

Sign Panarin 9x7
Matthews 12x8
Marner 8.5x8

Trade Horton, Leivo and Rosen to Arizona for a 7th

Hainsey is done after this year so we free about 9 million from these guys

BigWilly

1.) 17 Oct 2018 02:25:26
BIGWILLY

PANARIN and leafs can’t resign him that makes sense. The team to watch is Edmonton the only player scoring Mcdavid . The oilers could be 1 and 8 in a week. Oilers can’t afford nylander unless they ditch NURSE plus another contract. Desperation will hit them in a week.


2.) 17 Oct 2018 02:30:45
Leafsgm

Watching oilers jets game camera goes to charelli oilers losing 4 1 he looks terrified already. This guy will be ripe for the picking. Under pressure you never make good trades.


3.) 17 Oct 2018 02:45:55
The cap for 2019 will be 81.5 to 85 MM. Your Forwards cost over $60 MM + $6 MM for Goaltending. Kessel is $1.2 MM. Now you are around $70 MM. How are you going under the cap/

You require a LW still instead of Marleau and what are you doing with Johnsson. Also, you traded LEIVO twice.


4.) 17 Oct 2018 02:58:53
Ok in what world does that fit under the cap. Considering, they feel challenged with it trying with Nylander less than $7M.

If they trade both Horton and Marleau, sure.


5.) 17 Oct 2018 03:57:35
Aside from trading Leivo twice, it looks pretty good. This is one of your better proposals here Willy. Still going to be tight against the cap though. You might have to find a way to dump salary. But ignoring that issue and focusing on the trade itself and the players involved, I think you nailed it.

Panarin would have to sign an extension first so we don’t end up like Columbus and trade a long term asset like Saad for a guy who only wants 2 year deals.

I like the way you line it ip here to make valuation easy. Nylander ~Panarin, Gardiner > Murray, Leivo.


6.) 17 Oct 2018 03:58:40
Nutivaara over Murray, and leafs add Brown and a second
Murray is at most a top 6d, no more.


7.) 17 Oct 2018 06:01:56
@davidmackin

I’m actually surprised Oilers didn’t do anything major during the off season. Waiting until season starts and his team tanks and digs a hole too deep to climb out of is the dumbest thing he could have done. The best GM’s are proactive, not reactive. How Chiarelli though the same team he iced last year wasn’t going to have different results this year is beyond me. Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So maybe Chiarelli isn’t stupid, he’s just crazy. I don't know. But McDavid’s back has to be hurting at this point carrying the entire team. As it stands right now, McDavid is the only one on the team with more than one goal, and has scored 40% of all goals on the team. If I was McDavid, I would force the issue by demanding a trade. Crosby didn’t have to suffer through such inept management before Pittsburgh became contenders, neither did Matthews, nor should McDavid.

Desperation must be setting in. They are still a .500 team though David, so maybe after they drop a few more games and fall down the standings more, we will see something happen. I for one would be more than willing to basically give Chiarelli the puck moving defenseman he thinks he needs so bad. But since it’s Chiarelli, maybe we can get Edmonton’s 1st for Giveaway? If we could make just that trade alone this year, then I would be happy with Dubas’ performance.


 

 

11 Oct 2018 18:27:13
Leafs: Nylander, Gardiner
Avalanche: Makar, Johnson

Can't say it enough this is what we need to do.

BigWilly

1.) 11 Oct 2018 19:47:59
I would be a big fan of this trade. I really like Erik Johnson, despite his contract. Perfect world, Colorado retaims a bit of salary but they would have to extend Nylander and Rantanen (and Gardiner? ) in the next year, so they might not be willing to do that. Snagging Makar would be awesome too. Make it so.


2.) 12 Oct 2018 00:19:42
To get Makar, I would take on Johnson, and then dump him as soon as Liljegren and Makar were in the lineup full time. It’s a big cap hit and I have a hard time seeing how Leafs would be able to afford him the duration of his contract.


3.) 12 Oct 2018 00:34:41
Well if we talk about next year and Johnson being part of it, he and Reilly are $11m. Makar, Liljegren and Dermott very affordable. Likely cheaper options at 6-7. One more veteran (Imo) at say 3-4m makes the group affordable. Providing Gardiner as well as Zaitsev if possible are moved. Easier said than done though.


4.) 12 Oct 2018 01:47:29
I love this trade. I really would love to have zadorov in this deal but I would be happy with that.


5.) 12 Oct 2018 07:04:37
@bettsy

Avs wouldn’t be trading Zadorov. He’s their best LHD right now. Gardiner of all people would be brought in to be 1LHD. That’s how desperate the Avs are in that position.

Would love to have Zadorov on Leafs. A virtual monster of a man, he led the league with a whopping 278 hits last year. He does everything Gardiner can’t. But considering what they gave up to obtain Zadorov, who has easily lived up to expectations, you can be sure Avs will be keeping him.


 

 

10 Oct 2018 20:58:54
Leafs: Nylander, Gardiner with ext, Johnsson, 1st
Jets: Laine

Leafs: Marincin
Lightning: Coburn

BigWilly

1.) 10 Oct 2018 23:29:33
I don't think there is any way the Jets could turn that down. Nice one BW.


2.) 11 Oct 2018 00:33:45
Come on already. Laine is getting 10+ million, how will leafs fit him in. Gardiner won't sign extension just to get traded. Other than that go for it.

Lightning deal is worth a look but lightning may want more.


3.) 11 Oct 2018 01:14:16
@craigger, that's not how it works on this site. According to the Leafs homers here, if you are offered a deal that is close or better in value than the player you are giving up, you have to accept the trade. It doesn't matter if you can afford the player, or if the deal makes your team worse, you have to graciously accept the offer. You're breaking protocol by turning down an offer that kills your salary cap. No one here likes dealing with reality.


4.) 11 Oct 2018 01:39:16
Jets aren't trading Laine. Lol come on.


5.) 11 Oct 2018 01:58:26
Jets are facing their own cash crunch. No way they can afford both Nylander and Gardiner.

The next ice age will happen before this trade would. Bad deal for both teams.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 16:40:23
I actually do think if we offered Colorado this that they would take it.

Nylander and Gardiner for Makar and Johnson

Fills both teams needs and even value wash. We take Johnson because we have to wait a year for Makar, then we dump him after this year but a solid reliable RHD.

Now that Kapanen is playing with Matthews finally, on the bottom 6 I only really like Kadri, Brown, Ennis and Lindholm is decent, I don't like Leivo or Johnsson anymore so

Johnsson and Leivo and a 3rd for Borowicki and Formenton

Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Formenton-Kadri-Brown
Grundstrom-Lindholm-Ennis
Gagner

Rielly-Johnson (Makar)
Dermott-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Ozighanov
Boroweicki

Andersen
Sparks

BigWilly

1.) 08 Oct 2018 17:46:02
Second Trade is not viable, First trade would be up to Colorado, note else.

Giveaway should be extended and traded.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 22:31:18
Don’t give up on Johnson yet but man it looks awful after 3 games. leafs need to find Kadri some wingers

Try Johnson up there

Johnson kadri brown

The third line has to chip in and it’s not kadri fault.


3.) 08 Oct 2018 23:01:04
Johnson 4 yrs left after this one 6 million don’t know why they would move him for gardener UFA.

Makar nylander straight up

Only way leafs will end up with great defence is to acquire top 5 drafted player that is cost effective along time along with Liljegren


Reilly zaitsev
Dermott Maker
Rosen liljegren.

Next season.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 01:57:59
Leafs: Nylander, Johnsson, Gardiner
Avalanche: Makar, Johnson, Yakupov

Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Yakupov-Kadri-Brown
Grundstrom-Lindholm-Ennis

Rielly-Johnson
Dermott-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Ozighanov

Then RHD is set and we need a LHD to come in case Hainsey pulls his old vagina.

Leivo for a LHD .

BigWilly

1.) 08 Oct 2018 05:15:55
Yakupov is playing in KHL, so we can remove him. He sucks anyway. Another spectacular draft bust by Edmonton.

Johnson I would pass on. Basically he’s too old and too expensive. A good player, sure, though he never did reach expectations. But at this point, I don’t see him as long term solution to our needs.

Makar is the prize here, and I would be willing to dump Nylander for him straight up, though some may say Nylander has more value. Don’t you listen to them. Makar has more value to us because he fills a glaring need. Makar and Liljegren are two of the highest RHD prospects on the planet and would cement us on the right side for the next decade.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 16:05:21
I agree with the whole Makar thing.

Nylander straight up is ideal

The rest of the pieces are interchangeable. the main source of the deal is really the only part to talk about.


 

 

 

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07 Oct 2018 03:03:19
Maybe if their gm lost a bet.

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06 Oct 2018 15:42:46
I would not say so, just because of the fact that Panarin doesent want to sign with them, if we give Gardiner an extension they would do this.

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18 Sep 2018 04:29:29
If you trade Nylander then you will just be Magic.

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16 Sep 2018 01:55:19
That's a huge package I don't know if it's worth it.

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15 Sep 2018 22:00:41
If Colorado did this I would probably cream my pants 8 times, they may go through with it if we add more but unlikely.

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