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01 Jan 2021 14:31:33
I know Dubois just signed with Jackets but rumours are still out there he wants to be traded,so how about this...what needs to change or be added to get something like this done...

Leafs Trade:
Nylander
Engvall
Campbell

Jackets Trade:
Dubois
Foudy
Korpisalo

Dubois could move to left wing where Nylander plays and Foudy would be a great option as 3rd line centre when we have to move Kerfoot..Korpisalo is a good backup and could be a future #1 depending on what he can show us this year and what Freddy does if Leafs decide to not sign him

Loxley1972

1.) 01 Jan 2021 16:02:16
Just my opinion, but I think you are undervaluing Dubois a bit. Dubois is only 22 and a former 3rd overall pick who does a bit of everything and is a sure bet for 50-70 pts a season. He already has 19pts in 26 playoff games, so he ups his game when it really matters. In all honesty, I think if we are offering Nylander, we are the ones adding a bit, so I doubt we also get Foudy. I could be wrong, but I think Dubois will get some really good offers that beat this.


2.) 01 Jan 2021 18:04:45
As much as I’d love Dubois I think franchises who are rebuilds would jump quickly at opportunity at landing a guy who could turn their franchises around thus making it impossible for leafs to compete for his services

Nylander, Robertson, Amirov (the Russian both Toronto and Columbus wanted and why leafs didn’t trade down and just took him at 15 knowing Columbus wanted him)
Throw in liljegren (once savard leaves Columbus will be thin on right side) and now Columbus might think about it

Only until a team like the rangers or sens jump in and offer an even better package than this one.

Trying to get the other 2 players from Columbus only makes it harder to land Dubois.


3.) 01 Jan 2021 22:36:13
all good. figured i was light on leafs side. just wondering what everyone else thought they'd have to add.


 

 

31 Aug 2020 14:24:11
Here's another deal with Columbus..

Leafs Trade:
Nylander
Dermott

Jackets Trade:
Andersson
Savard
Korpisalo

Leafs sign Demelo for 4x$3.5 and Anderson 4 x $4

This gives Jackets pure scorer that they missed and Leafs get some offense back with Anderson and acquire our top line RD and a goalie was has mostly been a backup but may be on the verge of breaking out to work in tandem with Campbell...Leafs have extra cap to sign 2nd pair RD in Demelo once they trade Andersen to whoever for whatever

lineup:
Johnsson...Matthews...Marner
Hyman...Tavares,,,Andersson
Robeertson...Kerfoot...Barabanov
Mikheyev...Engvall...Spezza

Muzzin...Savard
Reilly...DeMelo
Lehtonen...Holl

Korpisalo
Campbell

extras to reach 23 man roster:
Marincin
Rodrigues(signed for $1mil)
Liljegren

What do Leafs have to add to that possible scenario if i was light on what we send them?

Loxley1972

1.) 31 Aug 2020 15:16:08
That trade is a massive overpayment. Anderson missed like 3/ 4 of the season and Savard had a very bad year by his standards plus he is a pending UFA. Korpisalo does not make up the difference at all.

Those signings are also overpayments too imo, especially in Anderson’s case Demelo is good but he should probably be closer 2.5 mill. Anderson shouldn’t be over 2.


2.) 01 Sep 2020 00:53:42
i just plugged in numbers for the signing cause i had a lot of cap space. had i gone lower id' be getting told i did not pay them enough. what else would we ask for if it's an over payment player wise?


 

 

07 Aug 2020 18:44:51
Ok...big shake up.....Rielly,Marnie and Wee Willy out

Leafs Trade
Rielly & Nylander

Wilde trade:
Brodin & Dumba

Leafs Trade:
Jhonsson

Preds trade:
Allard

Leafs Trade:
Marner

Sabres trade:
Reinhart
McCabe
2020 1st round pick

Leafs trade:
McCabe and 2020 2nd round pick

Pens Trade:
Jarry

Leafs Trade:Andersen to whoever for whoever

Leafs Signs UFA's
Toffoli 5 @ 5.5
Reinhart 5@ 6mil
Spezza 1 @ 750k
Clifford 1 @1.2

lines:
Hyman..Matthews...Reinhart
Mikheyev..Tavares...Toffoli
Robertson...Kerfoot...Kapanen
Clifford...Spezza...Barabanov

Muzzin...Holl
Brodin...Dumba
Dermott...Lehtonen

Jarry
Campbell

scratches:
Rosen
Engvall

this gives us more grit and some scoring with Reinhart and Toffoli....as well as improves our D as far as defense with now having Muzzin,Holl and Brodin as defensive D and Dumba can provide some offense....Dermott and Lehtonen are perfect for 3rd line work

solves goalie issues with a tandem of Campbell and Jarry...see who wants it more

Loxley1972

1.) 07 Aug 2020 20:39:04
The Leafs should not trade Marner for that weak Buffalo package. Plus McCabe and a 2nd would not get Jarry.


2.) 08 Aug 2020 00:36:49
That defense looks way way way better. Too bad defense is a team effort and those forwards still don't look like they would be able to spell defense, let lone play it.

If Dumba can get back to being an offensive force again, this would be good. Otherwise there is a disconnect between the defense and the forwards. The defense would be a lot better defensively, but would have very limited offensive contribution. It would impact our transition and breakouts, which in turn would reduce offense. But the offense is still primarily focused on, well, offense. There's no real defensive forwards added to the team that would support the back end. That's half the problem. The forwards don't backcheck or play physical or help on the defense. So it would be a wasted effort.


3.) 09 Aug 2020 00:37:02
i disagree IJ. i don't think that is such a weak package from Buffalo. gives us Reinhart who i am sure plays a better all around game than Marner and i high 1st round pick. as for McCabe and a 2nd i don't see why that would not get Jarry. he's only had 1 season and heard he might be available for a low 1st or high 2nd. just throwing in McCabe to sweeten. i believe theses moves also leave us with 4 or 5 million in cap space.


4.) 09 Aug 2020 00:40:10
Hockeylover. i agree defense is a whole team issue. and by trading marner and red line Nylander we add Toffoli and Reinhart who i think have a more all around game. add that to a hyman and JT and Matthews who has shown more eagerness to come back to his zone and i think we'd be ok. then we would not have to worry about the defense not getting the puck out although i still think we'd be fine we will have Dumda, Lehtonen and Sandin or Liljegren for that.


 

 

05 Jul 2020 22:39:26
So here is the breakdown of my moves, kept trades pretty simple and did not add much other than the players i was targeting so might need some tweeking on either side...

Jonsson and 1st round pick in 21 for Dunn & Allen...gives Leafs 3 solid LD for next year and by acquiring Dunn He could be re-signed for $4.5mil and if we can't sign Rielly he would eventually move up to 2nd pairing....for the Blues they get Johnsson and 1st rnd pick to add some offense,also we take on Allen and free up cap space for them so they can sign Pietrangelo as they might have a hard time signing Dunn as well

Nylander for Bertuzzi...Bertuzzi has 11 goals less but might be a little cheaper but adds for grit and grind that is needed for playoffs...having Hyman on 1 line and him on the other balances out the grit on top 2 lines for the finess guys....Detroit gets a guy that can score

Kerfoot & Allen for Logan Brown gets the Leafs a young prospect and gives the Sens a C and a new goalie to replace Anderson if they decide to move on and use him in a tandem format which Allen seems to be more comfortable with.

lineup:

Hyman...Matthews...Marner
Robertson...Tavares...Bertuzzi
Mikheyev...Brown...Kapanen
Engvall...Spezza...Barabanov

Muzzin...Holl
Rielly...Dermott
Dunn...Lehtonen

Andersen
Campbell

Loxley1972

1.) 06 Jul 2020 00:38:45
I like bertuzzi. but I like nylander more
And I don’t think it’s wise trade another first round pick.


2.) 06 Jul 2020 02:27:43
I don't know if the value is fair or not. But k do know the Blues need LHD almost as bad as we need RHD. I don't think Bouwmeester will be coming back after having a heart attack in the middle of a game. Dunn is their best LHD until Perunovich arrives on the scene.


3.) 06 Jul 2020 03:08:05
Sandin? We don’t need Dunn when we already have him.

Also Detroit adds.


4.) 06 Jul 2020 07:32:41
Nylander for bertuzzi straight up isn't equal. Nylander is the better player right now. Who knows what Bert does on a Bette dream but right now I take Nylander.


5.) 06 Jul 2020 15:01:28
For those saying Nylander is better. he only has 10 more goals. i think Bertuzzi is better as he combines skill and grit. like Hyman. who he would also help replace if/ when when can't sign Hyman. if straight up is not fair then perhaps Wings add a lower pick or something. like i said i really did not worry about nit picking stuff like picks. everyone has an opinion and it varies to much.

themostleafs33.yes we have Sandin. but he is not ready yet. and like i said. if Rielly is not signable then he gets traded or walks. Dunn goes to 2nd pairing and then your Sandin comes in on 3rd.

hockeyluvr. i realize the blues might need LD as well. my first trade i tried involved a larger deal where i included Rielly as well and Parayko but figured people on here would lose their rubbish if i dared include Rielly

mph. i included a 1st round pick because i did not feel like Johnsson is worth Dunn. Allen really does not count and he is a throw in for cap dump. i based this trade on an article i read that the Habs were possibly going to offer sheet Dunn for 4.2 mil and it would only cost then a 2nd round pick

tried to acquire some different players with these trades thought it might be appreciated. guess i will go back to what everyone likes. Pesce. and then thee boys from Columbus, Jenner, Boone and Anderson.


6.) 07 Jul 2020 01:18:34
I have no issue with bertuzzi but I'm quite partial Nylander. Bertuzzi is a good player but I'm not sure if he will be Nylander Calibre one day.


 

 

14 Jun 2020 18:47:20
So here is a fun and Wild coupls of trades that i know would not happen but how fun is it to try....i think the basis is there might need tweeking

Leafs Trade:Rielly & Dermott

Ducks Trade:Theodore

Leafs get a good D in Theodore signed long term @ 5.2 mil so just slighty what Rielly is getting and who we may not be able to sign...Ducks do it because they can sign Rielly with the cap and get Dermott as second pairing D which they appear to be short on.

This one won't be popular from the point of view of what Leafs get but needs to happen for cap reasond from the Isles point of view.

Leafs Trade:Marner plus possibly more( used a 1st ans 2nd round pick, help me out with your thoughts)

Iles Trade:Pullock,Bailey,Boychuck

Leafs get a solid RD to pair with Theodore who we sign for $6mil(roughly),we also get Bailey who is not popular but he reunites with Tavares who he had success with...then Boychuck (is here for cap issues for Isles,he plays RD for our second pair)...Ilses do it to shed Boychuck and Bailey salary as they will have Barzal to sign who will want 8-10mil in my opinion)...lines look like this:

Robertson....Matthews...Nylander
Hyman...Tavares...Bailey
Mikheyev....Engvall...Kapanen
Clifford..SPezza...Barabanov

Theodore...Pullock
Muzzin...Boychuck
Sandin...Liljegren

scratches leaving us a 22 man roster are Lehtonen(can sub with Sandin) and Brooks

Holl...Johnsson and Kerfoot were traded anywhere for picks or prospects or to use to pick up another 3C if you are not comfortable with Engvall/Brooks subbing...with all 22 players i still have 1.1mil in cap for that 3C and we have a better balanced D

Baiey means reduced cap from Marner to put elsewhere, downside for Boychuck is he is not good but only signed 2 more years....maybe after next year we trade him or buy him ut and get more cap space for others

Let Me Have It...lol

Loxley1972

1.) 14 Jun 2020 18:59:06
The first one I just don't see the ducks doing. I get where your coming from on Reilly and I agree in most ways. The ducks though, need to go into some kind of rebuild. I don't think they would take Reilly.

Second trade I actually just don't want 2/ 3rds of the players coming back lol.


2.) 14 Jun 2020 19:41:20
Shea Theodore is on the Knights not the ducks, so that one is out the window and the second trade, wouldn’t give up marner for a 2nd pair d man, 5-8 slot forward and a cap dump.


3.) 14 Jun 2020 20:46:14
The Leafs shouldn't trade Marner who plays hard every shift. If they feel the need to dump salary they should try and trade soft, one trick pony Matthews as he plays with 1/ 10th the heart of Marner and will jump ship in 4 years.


4.) 14 Jun 2020 21:09:07
Marner was picking up on some lazy habits this year. Agreed he does show more heart but he isn't even close to Mathews level. Before this year I always agreed AM was a one trick pony. He really shined this year though. Splitting up Nylander and Mathews seems to be key. Not sure what it is about the two of them but whenever one guy has an off night the other follows suit.


5.) 14 Jun 2020 21:51:19
I would trade wee Willy before Tavares Matthews or Marner
Loads of talent but one lazy bugger on the back check
He would fetch a nice rhd of some substance and under contract

To njd for severson

Or go for a prospect
to avs for
Byram jost
Or to nyi for Dobson and bellows.


6.) 14 Jun 2020 22:53:18
Would rather lose Marner as that 11m would get a RHD and free up space for resigning others. The 7 Nylander frees up isn't so big.


7.) 14 Jun 2020 23:15:48
Theodore can play right side, so a Reilly for Theodore trade I'm all for. I wouldn't give them Dermott too though because it would weaken LHD a lot. Instead maybe try a pick or prospect or a forward they might be able to use. Heck, they might even be interested in Will for backup.

Choosing between Matthews and Marner is a tough choice, but I got to stick with Matthews. If we traded Marner and freed up his cap space, we can use that to sign Matthews to any deal he wants pretty much.


8.) 15 Jun 2020 13:33:09
I know 2 3rds or the Isles deal might not look good. but when I make a trade for Leafs I always make sure it works for both team. cap included. do I want Boychuck. no but for cap purposes I had to free that cap space up from Isles assuming they could not get rid of him themselves once Boychuck is done it will then free cap space previously spent on Marner for players like Sandin or Liljegren or even a goalie. As for the core 4 I don't see Leafs picking Marner over Matthews and I don't see the Leafs keeping Marner over Nylander because of cap number. they are similar in style of play but cause Nylander is signed for less he would be kept to free up more cap. and finally I included Dermott with Rielly as having to pay more to get a good defensement making the kind of money Rielly is for another 4 or 5 years. and Knights having to sign Rielly to an 8mil contract. I think our left side would be fine with Muzzin, theodore and Sundain/ Lehtonen.


9.) 15 Jun 2020 13:57:15
Sandin and Lehtonen are both rookies. It's a pretty big risk

Personally I think Reilly is the better player. But the term makes a big difference in value. So I see the need for an add-in. I just don't know if either a) we should trade two LHD and b) do they even need two LHD coming back? They have a pretty strong LHD already with guys like Schmidt and McNabb, and with guys like Hague ready, they might not even want Dermott.


10.) 15 Jun 2020 22:27:44
Hockeyluvr. Rielly probly is the better player but we might not be able to resign him. Theodore makes 200k more and could replace him. Pullock can play right. based on cap friendly when I did the trade from their side they seemed to need LD. we would have extra with Muzzin. Theodore. Lehtonen and Sandin on LD.


11.) 16 Jun 2020 01:44:26
Oh. Ok. I actually thought you were making the trade to put Theodore RHD. I didn't even think of using him LHD.


 

 

 

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11 Jan 2021 15:36:06
I'd do it. I like both targets.

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08 Jan 2021 04:02:52
Would love to get Kadri back. never should have belt regardless of what happened in the playoffs. But he was made the scapegoat as to why this team lost yet again instead of pointing the fingers in the right direction.

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01 Jan 2021 22:36:13
all good. figured i was light on leafs side. just wondering what everyone else thought they'd have to add.

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28 Dec 2020 02:20:28
I get hat but you traded him. can't trade him and have him still in lineup.

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25 Dec 2020 19:49:54
How is Marner on your 3rd line when you traded him?

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