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11 Apr 2020 17:59:27
So here is my version of a scenario that Randy put uout recently with a few of my own tweeks to it....Tkachuks are probly not attainable but it's fun to think about it cause they are the kinda guys we need that can score but have that edge/grit/feistyness/heart this team is missing....LeafsGM you mentioned not being a fan of how they play....i say that is natural as you probly would not have been a fan of Tucker and Roberts had they not been Leafs....similar style players in my book..

Leafs Get:
Andersson, Rasmus
Tkachuk, Matthew

Flames Get:
Marner, Mitchell
Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
2021 2nd round pick (TOR) we do not have a 3rd this year

Leafs Get:
Tkachuk, Brady

Sens Get:
Kapanen, Kasperi
2021 1st round pick (TOR)

Leafs Get:
Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]signed 2 @ $2.25

Jackets Get:
Johnsson, Andreas
Holl, Justin

Leafs Get:
Wallmark, Lucas [RFA Rights] signed 2 @2.25

Panthers Get:
Engvall, Pierre
2020 2nd round pick (TOR)

UFA's signed:
Spezza 1 @ $700,000
DeMelo 3 @ 3,000,000
Mikheyev 1 @ 1.250,000
Brooks 2 @ 800,000
Thornton 1 @ 1,000,000

lines are as follows:






1.) 11 Apr 2020 18:13:15
What I said was I didn't agree with everything they do. But that's ok, because if I did, they wouldn't be doing their jobs right. Lol. Of course I like both those kids. They are going to be all-star for years. Maybe even better than their old man, who I thought was a great player.

2.) 11 Apr 2020 18:43:40
U don’t need both Tkachuks lol such a waste.

3.) 11 Apr 2020 19:48:53
Grouping Gary Roberts in with the Tkachuks is blasphemy. Roberts is one of the greatest leaders to ever play the game of hockey if not all sports. He was hard working, determined, gritty, and could score. Roberts would never have turtled when Kassian came In chucking knuckles. Tucker was closer to your description as an irritating guy for teams to play against.

Is this not well over the cap? I didn't do the math but it looks to be.

In this scenario you need to trade Hyman. He shouldn't be playing 3rd line and is a rental.

You have Mikheyev fourth line as well. This is way to many quality LW. You need one Tkachuk not both unless you losing Mikheyev and Hyman and keeping Engvall at 3rd line.

4.) 11 Apr 2020 21:41:38
I get it LeafsGM…. guys you like to hate

Leafslife. not. not outside cap. it works. and I think I still had over a million in cap space. LW is very strong but this is a win now team. with Brady Tkachuk we would not be able to resign Hyman. so this is one last ditch effort to try for a cup. I thought I might have to trade him but I did not. if brady can play right then he could move to first and bump that side down these are moves for now and future. Hyman, Anderson and Barabanov for now with the last 2 having to show what they can do. Mikheyev should be on 3rd at least but we are very strong there. dunno about blasphemy in regards to Roberts comments just trying to say we need guys that show emotion and play with heart and not afraid to go to corners like most of the team does now.

5.) 11 Apr 2020 23:44:38
You signed Spezza and Thornton both but aren't playing either of them. What's the point of signing them then? Neither one will sign if they aren't going to get playing time. And it would be better to keep that cap space available for if we need it for something else. A little flexibility would be nice so we don't get a repeat of this season where our hands were so tied we were paying teams to take players off our hands.

6.) 12 Apr 2020 21:33:00
was just trying to add depth with them. in retrospect. the Walmark trade probly does not happen so Spezza would be in that spot. send Engvall down to minors as he really struggled after signing that contract.



03 Apr 2020 00:56:29
How about this for an idea,assuming there is a compliance buyout and Devils could have 2 candidates...Subban & Schneider..

Leafs trade:
something else maybe

Zacha & Schneider

Leafs could buyout Schneider....then sign Demelo...we could then maybe trade Andersen to the Hawks who will need a goalie next year as they have none signed for Murphy

D looks like this

we could then try to sign Lehner or trade for Murray in Pittsburg as they don't need him there with the 2 young kids


1.) 03 Apr 2020 02:13:42
I like your thinking. Even if not these targets it's a good thought. Use cash at Dubas disposal to buyout others for payment. Not sure how compliance buyout will work though. Have to wait and see on that end.

2.) 03 Apr 2020 04:05:33
How about this for an answer No! Lol!

3.) 03 Apr 2020 19:36:51
I see what you're getting at. We don't really have anyone to buy out, so if someone wants to pay us to buy out their player, that's not a bad idea. It would be similar to the Washington/ Colorado deal a few years back where Colorado got Grubauer for taking on Orpik's contract. Or what the Leafs did this year with Marleau. It's a great idea. I like it a lot. Maybe not this exact trade like what you have here, but something along those lines would work. It's one of the best ideas I've heard on hear in a while actually.

4.) 03 Apr 2020 21:26:41
Hey Formerly LHD. care to explain why NO?

thanks for the comments LeafsGM and LeafsLife…. have thought of the compliance buyout for a while and was just looking at teams that might have more than 1 guy they would want to get rid of and Jersey came to mind. I don't know much about Zacha to be honest but have seen his name on this board a lot lately and he is a cheaper hit that Kerfoot. Murphy has a decent cap hit and is steady defender as is DeMelo…. but after running the numbers to have all these moves I was only left with about 4mil for Murray and that was not counting a percentage for buying out Schneider. so other than that I think being able to add a Zacha or a another cheaper option than him as 3rd line centre might work. maybe just a high pick from Jersey and we sign Joe Thornton for 3rd line centre and pick up Demelo…. not much can be done without trading a core 4 guy if cap stays flat.

5.) 04 Apr 2020 00:33:37
Don't forget Dermott and Clifford (if he's back) need re-signing too. They both will be getting raised because LA retained half Clifford's salary and Dermott deserves it now that his elc is finished.

6.) 04 Apr 2020 01:47:37
Compliance buyout may have a stipulation that is needs to be a guy on your own team the previous year though. Same you just guessing as well. I like the idea a lot just not a huge fan of zacha. Taking someone like Bobrovski and buying them out if FLA is giving up on him though would net you at least 2 1sts maybe even a few prospects thrown in.

7.) 04 Apr 2020 01:48:56
Another target could be someone like carry price. Maybe he's willing to take a buyout and re sign with MTL if allowed. Or OEL I'm sure they would like to get away from that cap hit.

8.) 04 Apr 2020 03:38:56
I would trade Dermott. we'd have Rielly. Muzzin and Sandin on the left. Dermott and DeMelo might be close in skill wise but would prefer DeMelo as he is RD and played over 20 minutes each night against top lines. Dermott was just starting to do that but as he is LD he is over kill. as for Clifford don't care if he's back or not but Leafs will definitely have to get rid of Johnsson and Kerfoot IMO to upgrade the defense.

9.) 04 Apr 2020 04:10:22
That's the hard part loxley. Marlies are empty. Replaces Kapanen and Kerfoot isn't easy I'm not sure how he plans on doing it.

10.) 04 Apr 2020 18:55:16
Leafs paid a first just to unload one year of Marleau's contract. And it cost Washington Grubauer to unload one year of Orpik's deal. So unloading Bobrovsky would be a hefty price for sure. Speaking of Price, I'm not sure if he would be allowed to re-sign with Montreal right after they just bought him out. I think there would be a wait period before he would be allowed to re-sign with the same team, same as with a regular buyout. On the other hand, if No freak bought Price out, would he be a better signing than Andersen?

Montreal buys out Price. We sign him, then buy out Andersen?



28 Mar 2020 20:08:27
So here goes guys....right off the bat i know these won't happen just because of the sheer magnitude of these trades and so many moving parts...But again i am the GM here and i really think that this would make our D corp so much stronger although we would be weaker on offense....i did all this under the current cap assuming it stays the same for next year..i may have over paid with draft picks but i always seem to just to add them as sweetners.

this is done to get a lower cap hit as Engvall tailed off after signing contract.1 goal in 19 games and was against the zamboni driver

Leafs Get:
Nylander, Alexander

Hawks Get:
Engvall, Pierre
2022 3rd round pick (TOR)

I feel the Ducks don't want to trade Manson so the picks are sweetners,we get top RD and Heinen who plays all positions for 3rd line....becomes a 3C in 2 years
Leafs Get:
Manson, Josh
Heinen, Danton

Ducks Get:
Johnsson, Andreas
Liljegren, Timothy
2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
2020 4th round pick (VGK)

Leafs Get:We get Dumba to play with Muzzin giving us offense and defense pairing,a 3C in Stall who is off the books after next year Greenway who is big, fast and could be 4th liner and Donato and Fiala to play on first and second lines...get rid of both Nylander and Marner,Fiala had similar numbers to Nylander and Marner is a cap dump to allow for other depth
Donato, Ryan
Dumba, Matt
Fiala, Kevin
Greenway, Jordan [RFA Rights]
Staal, Eric

Wild Get:
Marner, Mitchell
Nylander, William
Kerfoot, Alexander
Dermott, Travis
2021 1st round pick (TOR)
2021 2nd round pick (TOR)

UFA's Signed:Spezza for 1 year @ $700,000,Thornton for 1 year @ $1,000,000,Clifford for 2 Years @ $1,500,000 and Tyler Pitlick 2 years @ $1,500,000 and DeMelo for 3 years @ $3,000,000

RFA's: signed Greenway for 2 years @ $1,000,000

lines look like this....or can be moved around...D looks awesome





1.) 29 Mar 2020 10:36:18
The Defense looks good but that Minny trade the leafs are being bent over I agree we have to move one of the three young studs in which i think marner would be the right choice but we shouldn’t throw away all our picks while doing it.

2.) 29 Mar 2020 20:09:39
hey Leafs1994.I think I might have stated the picks were extra just cause I view it from Leafs approaching Wild on it. probly would not need the picks in there. but the rest of the players are included just to free up cap which allows the Ducks deal to work as well. along with the depth signings of Clifford Pitlick and Thornton. Marner is the best player probly going over but his cap hit will dictate that in any trade what is coming back will be not as good. i think Fiala and Nylander have similar stats. Fiala may have found himself and would look good and is cheaper right now. so it comes down to Marner for Dumba. but again get all of the other players making less of a cap hit. and the D looks amazing. I mean DeMelo played 20 minutes a night for Ottawa. and usually against other teams top players…. he is on 3rd pairing and would be a solid guy to have next to young Sandin…. he played with Chabot a lot in Ottawa so hopefully that would make Sundin a better player.

3.) 30 Mar 2020 02:08:16
You really think Donato is good enough for 1RW? 14 goals is pretty good, but that's all he does is pop in the odd goal. Looks like a bit of a gamble. Wild also have Kunin and Erikson Ek. Not that they are so much better than Donato or anything. I'm just mentioning them as possible alternatives. They all produce about the same. I guess it's like a different flavor thing.

4.) 30 Mar 2020 12:40:45
Hey LeafsGM…. I went with Donato cause he is a RW, Ek is a C. figured seeing as Wild are looking for a centre they might not want to trade him. Kunin also has good stats. I mean either of those 2 would also be good additions if they would part with them. I just stuck him in on 1st line but he could be dropped to 3rd. put Heinen beside Mathews and then drop Hyman down to Tavares and move Fiala to Mathews line. just trying to hit the restart button on what top wingers should make. don't mind top 2 centres making 11mil. but I think the max that should be spent on all 4 top wingers is 20mil worth of cap.

5.) 30 Mar 2020 12:42:46
I also based Donato the fact he is making 1.9mil. figured with all the cap we were sending the Wild they would need to send us some back.

6.) 30 Mar 2020 21:10:13
Sweet. You brought up a point that doesn't get talked a lot on here, but is important. Cap distribution. I don't mind $11M for our true number one centre, whether you think that is Matthews or Tavares. But I don't think a 2C is worth $11M. I know we have a 1a/ 1b. But even still, if that's how you want to do it, then they both shouldn't be $11M. It's overkill at that position.

$20M for our top four wingers I can agree with. In fact, my own personal belief, for whatever that is worth, is more like $40M for the top 6, like you suggest, but with more for the wingers and a little less for the centres. My split would be $15 for the centres and $25 for the wingers. Something like that.

Do we really need two superstar centres? Most teams would be ecstatic with Matthews and Kadri. The day Tavares signed was the day the clock started ticking for Kadri. But why did Leafs feel the need to spend an extra $7M a year for Tavares, who doesn't put up a $7M difference in goals/ points than what Kadri does on 2C? What does Tavares average more than Kadri when Kadri was playing 2C? Maybe a half dozen goals and a dozen points. Is that really worth a $7M upgrade?

7.) 30 Mar 2020 22:31:30
Agreed there LeafsGm and I like the conversation on distribution as well. We will all have different numbers in mind but I would like to see the top pairing+Top 6 be somewhere around 55-60 combined. Having 20m a year to work with to fill out the bottom of your lineup seems sufficient to me. Having 3 guys make 33 of that though makes it almost impossible.

8.) 30 Mar 2020 22:40:15
Exactly LeafsGM…. that's a close breakdown to what I get on capfriendly when I put a roster together. I like about 20-22mil on D and 5-6.5mil for a starting goalie and not much more than what campbell is getting right now. Tavares was overkill once Mathews was signed. I dunno if Dubas thought he would actually sign here or if he felt like he had to. I was excited the first couple of days after he signed but when reality set in after realized his contract would be trouble for the cap. and it is. Luckily for now we have Hyman on a good deal. but what happens when he wants 5 or 6? that's when we will all realize Marner is getting 5 or 6 to much. would rather have a guy like Mantha who is making about that. then second line wingers could get like 4 mil each roughly.

9.) 01 Apr 2020 01:18:16
I think Dubas probably thought he was going to get Marner, and possibly Matthews, for cheaper. I also doubt he anticipated the cap staying flat this year, and possibly only a minimum raise next year too now. He probably just lost about $6M-$8M in cap space from what it will a tally be in two years to what he was projecting it would be in two years. Come 2021/ 2022 season I was expecting cap to be about $87.5M +/ - $2M. I don't think it will come near that now.

Probably flat this year and a 1.5% increase the year after that. Why 1.5%? Because the NHLPA didn't want to go above that because it fux with the escrow account. Or something like that. I just know it was the NHLPA that wanted a smaller cap raise last time, and from what I've been reading, they will be wanting a small raise again next time. I'm not an accountant or anything, so I don't know all the details obviously. I just know it has something to do with the escrow.



23 Mar 2020 22:24:46
Hey guys.....I am expecting negative feedback on this one but I guess I am just bored and spit balling a trade scenario for Marner...Here goes nothing!

To Sabres:

To Leafs:

This is my attempt to get some cap relief for the Leafs....we get Reinhart who could slot in on 3rd line bumping Nylander and Kapanen to 1st & 2nd RW lines....He get a real good LD in Rasmus who is more advanced than Sandin...For Sabres they get Marner..a RW guy that can help set up Eichel and make a good pairing for their 1st line...Sandin gives them a good prospect on D....again doubt Sabres do it but just tyring to offer a different trade scenario from all the usual suspects we get in trade proposals


1.) 24 Mar 2020 00:57:36
Based on past trades we can all come up with pretty much exactly what Nylander or Kapanen are worth give or take based on opinion. When it comes to Marner I can honestly say I have no idea what he is worth. I have a feeling Buffalo declines but in all reality had a sub 100pts, 20 goal scorer ever been given an 11/ 6 deal before? Closest comparison I can think of to Marner is Panarin but Panarin looked far better this year and was signed not traded.

My roundabout way of saying it's a good prop as its original and I have a feeling we need to add in a prospect but I really don't know.

2.) 24 Mar 2020 04:50:22
I like it. Lol. Aside from putting Reinhart on the third line and having Kapanen ahead of him (that's a tough scenario to imagine), I like the idea. Dahlin is looking like he really will be a superstar in the league one day. He's miles ahead of most players his age, including Sandin. Sandin is a very highly rated prospect himself though.

I guess the only real issue I have with it is that Dahlin is LHD. So where would we play him. I don't know if he can play RHD or not, If he can, great. If not, then 3LHD doesn't seem like a very good spot for what is a franchise defenseman that is already playing top line minutes. In fact, anything other than 1RHD beside Reilly kinda seems like a real waste of his talent. He really is that good.

I hate to see Marner go to a divisional rival, but Dahlin is one of the few defensemen I would trade Marner for. He's young, has one more year elc, won't cost $11M to re-sign, and will be on the team for many years. This is the perfect type of player we should be looking for. Only thing is that pesky left hand shot of his. If he was a natural right this would be a no-brainer.

3.) 24 Mar 2020 12:32:26
hey guys. thanks. really wasn't expecting such positive feedback. so like I said my idea here was to get rid of one of the big contracts. to free up cap. and I did not include the next part of my moves as I thought this one alone might not go over to well. but here is what I would target as a second deal which will help clear up what to do with a talent like Dahlin. I would try to contact the Ducks and try to pry away Manson and Heinen. maybe send over a package of Kerfoot, Johnsson and Dermott. with possibly a high pick to sweeten the deal as it was said Ducks were not interested in trading Manson. as for Ranheim on 3 line should he/ can he play on 2nd. and move him on line with Tavares?

So here are the lineups and signs after a trade with Ducks:
Hyman, LW $2,250,000.Matthews, C $11,634,000.Nylander, RW $6,962,366.$20,846,366

Mikheyev, LW $1,500,000.Tavares, C $11,000,000.Reinhart, RW $5,000,000 (signed 5 years) . $17,500,000

Heinen, C $2,800,000.Spezza, C $700,000 (signed 1 year) . Kapanen, RW $3,200,000.$6,700,000

Engvall, LW $1,250,000.Gauthier, C $1,000,000 (signed 2 years) . Pitlick, RW $2,500,000 (signed 2 years) . $4,750,000


Rielly, LD $5,000,000.Manson, RD $4,100,000.$9,100,000

Dahlin, LD $925,000.DeMelo RD, $4,500,000 (signed for 5 years) . $5,425,000

Muzzin, LD $5,625,000.Liljegren, RD $863,333.$6,488,333

Holl, RD $2,000,000

Andersen, G $5,000,000
Campbell, G $1,650,000


Kessel $1,200,000

Total Cap:$80,459,699

SO this keepd us under current cap if it does not go up. also Holl is probly overpaid as a 7th D and could be traded. Muzzin could also be traded should we need cap to sign guys like Freddy or Hyman or could be exposed in expansion draft again if we need the cap space or maybe if Rielly asks for too much he can be traded and Dahlin moves to first line with Manson. Muzzin stays on 2nd as shut down pair with Demelo…. Rielly should fetch us a pretty good young D prospect to replace Sandin on 3rd again if we can't sign him due to cap.

4.) 24 Mar 2020 15:34:51
Would hate to trade away Muzzin and Dermott but dahlin is clearly worth more so I agree it's worth it. The big thing though is with Dahlin is essentially says let Reilly walk in a few years or trade him.

5.) 24 Mar 2020 15:40:38
Why DeMelo over Holl? I think Holl might actually be the better player, even though I haven't seen enough of DeMelo lately to make a true judgement. I'd rather just out Liljegren on 2RHD with Dahlin and move Holl to 3RHD and keep Marincin and Rosen as our 7/ 8 defensemen. But I guess everyone is different and sees things differently.

I can't see Dubas paying $2.5M to play on the 4th line. We traded Brown away, who is a better player, because he made more than $2M and played 4th line. And we probably won't sign Clifford for much the same reason. Dubas believes that 4th line players should be only paid league minimum. Whether I agree with that or not, it's what he believes.

Otherwise I think it's a strong team. Looks like a better team than what we got now even. If only Dubas would play some guys with a bit of guts instead of a group of figure skaters.

6.) 24 Mar 2020 17:14:29
Tavares has shown over his career he's a bit of an anomaly. He seems to score at a near identical pace regardless of line mates. Even this year with Marner or Nylander same scoring. Last year seems like it was just luck more than anything as his shooting percentage was so high. I would have no issue with this lineup as I still see him scoring 30 goals and 70 pts.

More I think about it though more I say you trade Reilly is this scenario. My favorite leaf and should be captain but he should bring such a vast return that it makes sense. You can trade Reilly and Dermott while still running a LHD of Muzzin, Dahlin, Sandin in any order.

I would propose something along the lines of Reilly+ Dermott to Minnesota for Dumba+1st. Solidifies the right side, gives Minny an RFA they can work with and can then try to trade Reilly for something else if they can't resign him. While giving us a top 5 protected pick that should be in the top 10 as I don't see Minny going anywhere at the moment.

This trade actually intrigued me more than I thought it would at first glance lol.

7.) 24 Mar 2020 17:41:28
@LeafsGM. Dubas probly would not pay 2.5 for forth liner but "we" are the GM's here. lol. I did all this and stayed within this year's cap. assuming it does not go out. I added Pitlick as I tardes away all our current bottom 6 wingers/ centers and needed to add someone. maybe I gave Pitlick too much. I just over estimated there. this could be lower or could be some other ufa of your choosing. heck could be Korshkov at that minimum salary meaning we have extra cap space. I live in Ottawa so am forcefed a lot of Sens hockey. so I saw Demelo a lot. he is a big minutes eater on 2nd pairing against top teams nothing fancy. gave him a larger amount as it was a longer contract. as LeafsLife said he likes Muzzin. so do I just ended up with so many moving parts. would all hinge on Sabres deal first. if we got Dahlin. if so then maybe we just right out send Rielly who I also like to Wild as Leafslife suggested. we'd need a LD then as Dermott was still part of one of the trades

Dahlin. Manson
Muzzin. Dumba
. Liljegren

see LeafsLife…. i'm not a complete jerk. glad the trade intrigued you. both of you really I feared hearing back from either of you but have enjoyed this discusion

8.) 24 Mar 2020 19:45:16
I'm kinda wondering if Leafs might not be thinking about trading Reilly in a couple years anyway. If Sandin really does break out into a top line franchise defenseman, then it would make sense to trade Reilly for a boatload of picks/ prospects than to let him walk to free agency. Of course Leafs already have shown they would rather let high quality players go for free if they think they have a Stanley Cup contending team.

9.) 24 Mar 2020 22:08:24
That's a good point. We are the GM's on this site. It's not like I think Dubas has been doing a good job anyway. In fact, I even took the name LeafsGM cause I got to play gm here. If you want to pay a 4th liner $2.5M and can make it work cap wise, then that's nothing to do with Dubas. Blues won last year because of full team contributions. Guys like Maroon chipping in key goals at crucial times. Leafs don't have that depth. I like the idea of having a strong team all the way. Leafs studs'n'duds system creates one of the most lopsided teams you can have. They talk about all the skill. We got four forwards and one defenseman. After that the skill drops fairly significantly. By the time you hit the 4th line you have a bunch of ahl'ers basically. There is no middle class in the Leafs. Our structure itself is flawed. That's why teams like Boston, Washington, Blues, and Philly are all good of the league and Leafs are a bubble team. Because after those four guys and one defenseman we are running a team of rookies and ahl'ers.

Good job Loxley. I like that team. It looks better than the one we have. Dahlin is going to be a superstar and I'm jealous Buffalo has him. He's already looking better than Ekblad, who was the last defenseman drafted 1st overall.

10.) 24 Mar 2020 22:53:39
thanks LeafsGM. totally agree. that's what I was going for. less top skill but more balanced. and did not need 3 or 4 guys on long term injured reserve to do it within regular cap. As for Dubas. his biggest mistakes was "we can and we will" along with. "I am not trading Nylander on my watch" comments. rokkie mistake and cockiness saying that. shot himself in the foot. what was one thing Babcock complained about and Keefe has hinted at when we had all those injuries. NO DEPTH. like ya said we have 4 top guys. shut them down and that's it. top D gets hurt? no depth. why? cause a bunch of ahl'er's and guys coming over from Russia might surprise us but can't pick up the slack. we still have nothing in Marlies. well hardly and now there is less. we need a balanced line. Dubas cleaned up mistakes in Marleau and Zaitsev but made his own by signing the young kids to all that money and got caught up in the yearly game of which big free agent will leafs sign this year when he got JT. next year was looking the same with Pietrangelo…. who I don't want to give 10 million to. and thankfully I doubt they will be able to now. Dahlin of course is a fantasy trade but moving guys like Rielly and Marner we could definitely add D like Dumba and Manson and Demelo. along with better cheaper forwards than we have now. for me D should be allocated between 20 and 23 mil max. goaltending is fine what we have now. maybe another million. the rest should go to forwards.



10 Mar 2020 15:28:05
Just a minor trade here wondering what everyone thinks...Looking at Flyers in regards to who they might have to protect and they might have an issue with who they can protect on defense:

To Flyers:
3 or 4th round pick

to Leafs:


1.) 10 Mar 2020 15:33:59
No. Need to keep Liljigren. It's impossible to keep this roster together without people like him making league minimum.

2.) 10 Mar 2020 16:08:51
Myers is making less at the moment and in my opinion more advanced and a bigger body.

3.) 10 Mar 2020 17:26:53
But then who do Leafs protect? We would have Reilly, Dermott, Muzzin's, Myers, Holl all signed past next year. So we end up losing Myers or Holl, plus Liljegren.

4.) 10 Mar 2020 17:57:20
Myers isn't draft eligible is he? I figured neither he nor Lili would be.

Myers makes less but if memory serves he is an RFA after one year Lili isn't.

5.) 10 Mar 2020 18:02:45
I believe Myers will be draft eligible. I would then protect Rielly. Muzzin and Myers. trade Dermott possibly in a package for a forward more like Hyman. that plays with more grit.

6.) 10 Mar 2020 19:07:45
If a forward comes back it's the same issue though. MNM+Tavares obviously protected then you have Hyman, Kapanen, Johnson, Kerfoot. You don't want to lose anyone for nothing and can't protect everyone.

7.) 10 Mar 2020 21:02:59
Dermott would be part of a package including Johnsson or Kerfoot or whoever else. so no not the same issue. purpose of the trade is to try and find a RD.

8.) 11 Mar 2020 01:31:51
Liljegren and Sandin are exempt from the expansion draft. Dermott is not exempt.

9.) 11 Mar 2020 01:40:05
Myers is draft eligible because he has played more than 10 games last year and this year. So both those years count. Liljegren and Sandin has no NHL experience prior to this year, so they don't need protecting.

Is Myers a true 1RHD? I don't think he is much better than Holl, if any. In the long run Liljegren will be the better player is my guess.

10.) 11 Mar 2020 02:18:11
Your post says it's to get a forward in a package for Dermott not a RD? lol.

11.) 11 Mar 2020 15:18:21
Leafslife. my post says nothing about trading Dermott to get a forward. my original post was to try to acquire a more advanced young RD as they seem to be harder to get and we don't have any in the minors. I know Liljegren is RD but I feel Myers is an upgrade and is also the big bodied type everyone seems to think we need more of.

12.) 11 Mar 2020 16:17:22
Trade Dermott possibly in a package for a forward. Your exact words. I didn't just make it up lol.

13.) 11 Mar 2020 17:18:03
ya. but that was not my original trade proposal. I was not trying to fix the forwards at the moment just trying to acquire a RD. when someone mentioned Dermott I suggested he could be traded off as part of another package. never gave details on what that might be cause heaven for bid if people don't jump for joy at every suggestion you or LeafsGM make then a deal made by anyone else here is garbage. get off your high horses boys. this is supposed to be a fun discussion. not just dump all over a suggestion that was not made by you.

14.) 11 Mar 2020 18:15:33
Scroll up and down. Their have been a few very interesting proposals lately I have commented on. 16, LHD, Randy and many others have had some very good talking points as of late. Issue with you specifically is the need to call people dumb constantly. Even Kennedy (no offence Kennedy) comes out with some blockbuster gems that keep the conversation flowing.

Would rather listen to redwing than you as he may troll most of the time but he actually knows what he's talking about.

15.) 12 Mar 2020 00:42:53
Whatever Leafslife…. all I ever see you do is crap all over others suggestions. Do me a favour and stop replying to my posts if you think they are so bad. and what's with your love affair or Dermott. seriously. you talk about him like he's the second coming of Neidermeyer.

16.) 12 Mar 2020 11:44:12
Dermott is a good player. He doesn't get enough credit because Sandin is younger and Reilly is our 1D.




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05 Jun 2020 22:59:49
I hope Kappy's "heart" is a real thing and does come back in the playoffs and next year. worried that he only stepped up his game due to all the rumors that were going around about all the trades Dubas could do because of all the LTIR space we had. so here's hopin' it was not smoke and mirrors on his part and that his game has actually grown.




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05 Jun 2020 14:24:36
you want a rip. here ya go. finish the roster off. and details of signings to see if it fits under the cap. you whose playing goal for the Leafs just Jarry? are we going with 5 D all year? When Sandin is on the ice are we playing shorthanded? does he get a partner? is that partner a defenseman or an extra forward like we are on a powerplay. what are ya paying Mikheyev, Spezza and least of all Hall. there you go. that's your rip.




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04 Jun 2020 15:30:38
not really that close. still only a 20 man roster. so need to add a couple more minor contracts. cause they won't only have 20 players on the team all year especially if the new season starts right back up not long after the Stanley cup. so your still probly close to 5 million over the cap.




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04 Jun 2020 15:25:20
ducks deal is not happening with that. will have to include Liljegren. ducks don't need left handed dmen.




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04 Jun 2020 15:23:14
go play around on cap friendly to figure out who is really sniffing glue sticks. your at 8.5 million over the cap with a 21 man roster. bring up or sign 2 minor contracts that gets ya o almost 10 million. do your research before mouthing off and insulting people.





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