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17 Oct 2018 16:12:29
If we aren't going to get rid of marleaus contract this offseason we are going to need to trade willie. Obviously if we trade willie we want a defenseman back. Ideally I like pesce Parayko Ristolainen tanev Myers but I'm unsure if st.louis Vancouver or Winnipeg would be willing to part with them. I think nylander for Ristolainen straight up would be a great trade for both teams.
Patty-Matt's-kappy = 6.25+12.75+3=22mil
Hym-tav-marn = 2.25+11+8.75=22mil
Lindholm-kadri-brown 1.5+4.5+2=8 mil
Leivo-Gauthier-Ennis 1+750k+750k=2.5mil
54.5mil
Rielly-Ristolainen = 5+5.5=10.5mil
Gardiner-zaitsev 5+4.5=9.5mil
Dermott-Ozhiganov 1+1=2mil
22mil
Freddy=5 mil
Sparks=1 mil
6 mil
Kessel 1mil
Overall 54.5+22mil+6mil+1mil
=83.5mil which is cutting it close but we could let gardiner walk and sign a cheaper bottom pairing LHD for 2-3 mil and let Dermott become the second behind rielly.
The year after marleau comes off the books + cap continues to go up allows us to sign bridge players hyman Dermott and kapanen which we would have about 10-15mil to get all signed and we would have Lilly and Sandin close to NHL ready.
Dubas.....make it happen
1.) 17 Oct 2018 16:52:57
You are missing three players totaling another $2 MM, you will have to take it out of MM and AM AND kAPANENE and the third liine. Where is Johnsson.
2.) 17 Oct 2018 17:27:41
They can keep Marleau - they have some very smart and well paid people whose job it is to figure out contracts and the cap. I trust them far more than a nobody like you.
3.) 17 Oct 2018 17:27:45
It is unlikely that Buffalo will trade Ristolainen, especially not to a division rival
The only defenceman they have behind him is Dahlin, so no chance.
4.) 17 Oct 2018 17:50:23
@Boopy and @heatdreamer
Gardiner is the player that would have to be removed. Insert Liljegren, Sandin (or Holl), Johnsson, and a plug
Depending on how many points he gets, Giveaway is likely to get an offer exceeding the $5M proposed here anyway.
5.) 17 Oct 2018 18:33:42
GM
can we sign giveaway this for going forward and trade him this year and when could we do so. Than what is a signed Gardiner worth.
6.) 17 Oct 2018 18:34:08
It would be hard to watch gardiner walk for nothing considering how our defense is currently. As much as people may hate gardiner him and zaitsev eat up 22-24 minutes a night usually while he produces a lot of assists. As much as we can say we have Lilly and Sandin coming up neither of them are guaranteed to be NHL players let alone solid top 4 guys. Ideally Lilly is ready for next year and slots in on the second pairing with Dermott behind zaitsev and the bottom pair is something like Rosen and Ozhiganov but even still our defense is lacking one more solid top 4 guy to sure it up.
7.) 17 Oct 2018 18:59:52
Gardiner will be wanting long term and NTC. A sign and trade for a player his age is unlikely. We won’t get the return we want.
We don’t have to let Gardiner walk. We can trade him before deadline for futures. I would prefer dumping Giveaways for anything at this point. However given Leafs recent past history, I think that’s unlikely. Dubas won’t risk jeopardizing our playoff hopes. If he’s feels it doesn’t immediately increase our odds at winning the cup, he won’t make a move.
04 Aug 2018 16:25:36
Realistic trade for Parayko that no leafs fan will want to give up
Tor- nylander 2nd carrick
St.louis- Parayko
Trades that could happen not involving Willie (but St. Louis said they want offense and Willie is the only piece we could offer them that could make a big enough impact on their team offensively)
Tor- liljegren 1st carrick
St. Louis- Parayko
Or
Tor- Sandin kapanen 1st carrick
St. Louis- Parayko
Parayko is a young big right handed defenseman and St. Louis is not going to trade him for equal value they are going to want more than what he is probably worth to consider parting with him. Imo it's not worth it to go after him as I am high on our 2 defensive prospects and think we are in no rush to give away the farm to "go all in" as the team is already very good and will only get better with time. For those worried the team will get significantly worse once the pay day comes in yes they may lose depth players but everyone in their top 6 will be signed once the big 3 are signed rielly zaitsev are signed long term Dermott will be an rfa for multiple years Andersen is signed long term. The team is in no rush to go all in.
1.) 04 Aug 2018 16:49:19
The 3rd one is the only one I accept.
2.) 04 Aug 2018 21:40:21
I doubt St. Louis is looking to move Parayko. However, if they were going to move him, the only trade I could see them considering is the first one. I can't see anything in the other 2 that would entice them to move Parayko.
21 Jul 2018 20:07:15
Leafs: Tyler Myers
Jets: Zibanejad 25% retained
Rangers: 1st tor 2019 Jeremy Bracco 3rd tor 2019
Rangers get a B+ prospect and a pick jets trade from an area of strength and a player who will probably walk at the end of the year due to impending cap crunch with Laine wheeler and conners coming up and acquire Zibanejad at a cheaper tag to strength their weaker center core after Stastny and leafs acquire the top pairing RHD they need giving up a fair bit but what's to be expected. A trade I could see realistically happening that benefits all teams.
1.) 22 Jul 2018 01:22:29
With Winnipeg's cap crunch there could be a chance they want to get marc stall who's still signed for a couple years to replace Myers. But overall it looks like a sound trade.
2.) 22 Jul 2018 01:26:55
I think you'll need to wait until the Trouba situation is solved. If it ends up only being a one year deal for Trouba, then they likely hold onto Myers and extend him at the end of the year.
3.) 22 Jul 2018 04:03:07
absolutely not.
Jets make out like bandits. Rangers and Leafs get screwed.
If you’re going to put up a lopsided proposal, at least make it one in favor of Leafs.
4.) 22 Jul 2018 14:21:02
Leafs GM how so? Leafs only give up a 1st 3rd and a prospect who is years away for the solid big top pairing d man they need. The pick is likely a high 20s pick and the 3rd in the 80s as well as bracco who could be good or not. Rangers get more futures for a guy who has struggles staying healthy and has put up a best 51 points. Winnipeg gets a solid 3rd/ 2nd linecenter in Zibanejad at a good price I like the deal from everyone’s perspective. Seems like you don’t like any deal if they A aren't yours or B aren't biased towards the leafs.
5.) 22 Jul 2018 14:53:45
You could potentially even throw the 3rd then leave give to new York, and instead give it to Winnipeg,
6.) 22 Jul 2018 15:17:39
Jets get a guy that scored 27 goals last year and is signed for five more years at a reasonable cap hit in exchange for UFA Myers. That is a huge tilted towards Jets. All Rangers get in return is, in your own words “1st, 3rd, and a prospect who is years away. the pick is likely high 20s and the 3rd is in the 80s as well as Bracco who could be good or notâ€. So tell me, why would Rangers make this trade? How is this not unfair to Rangers?
And again, why would Leafs make this trade for one year rental in Myers?
This trade heavily favours the jets and fleeces Rangers especially, and isn’t favourable to Leafs either.
Sorry Poopy. No need to be defensive. I don’t always disagree with everyone’s proposals. Just the ones like this that are they bviously unacceptable to everyone but a Jets fan.
06 Jul 2018 13:15:59
Leafs aren't going to trade gardiner or let him walk. He has amazing advanced stats had a great year last year and is a solid defenseman. Dubas is a numbers guy and he won't trade away a guy as good advanced stats wise as gardiner. Gardiner does so many little things right it's just his colossal mistakes that make him look bad every so often. That being said the leafs need a top 4 RD.
To leafs: Montour
To Anaheim: Kapanen Leivo 2nd 2019
Montour is going to be very good I would goes as far as to offer a first over the 2nd to make it work or nylander in a deal. He lit up the AHL for 3 years then had an amazing first year. He is exactly what the leafs need. The reason Anaheim would give him up is he needs a contract and they don't have a ton of money to play with as kase needs a deal and players next year need money including Gibson. With their stellar defense already giving this up for 2 young wingers (a weak spot) and a pick to replenish. This allows Anaheim to go for one last shot with perry and getzlaf for the next 5 years.
Rielly-Montour Pp- 1 gardiner 2rielly
Gardiner-zaitsev Pk- 1 zaitsev rielly
Dermott-carrick. 2 Dermott Montour
11 Jun 2018 23:09:44
Tor:1st 2018 Carrick Bracco
LA: Alec Martinez
Tor:Martin McElhinney
Nyi:6th
Tor:Nathan Horton 3rd 2019
Arizona:7th 2019
Marleau gets traded next offseason to free up the space needed for marner and Mathews.
Move willy to center and sign him 7milx8
Johnsson 2milx5
Sign John Carlson 8.5milx8
Hyman-Mathews-kapanen
Marleau-kadri-Marner
Johnsson-willie-brown
Grundström-Lindholm-Leivo
Rielly-Carlson
Gardiner-Martinez
Dermott-Zaitsev
Andersen
Sparks
Mathews signs 11x8
Marner signs 8.5x8
Kap signs 3x5
Dermott signs 3x5
Top line- 16.25mil
Second line-15mil (with Johnsson as replacement for marleau the year after)
Third line-11 mil
4th line-4 mil
1st pairing-13.5mil
2nd pairing-8mil
3rd pairing-7.5mil
Goalie-6 mil
Overall-81.25mil in 2 years which is around where the cap will be and I high balled the big 3 a bit in money.
1.) 12 Jun 2018 06:41:38
What happened to Hainsey?
If L. A. would take that trade, Toronto should consider it. We don’t lose anything off the current roster and being in a solid RHD in the process.
Not sure if NYI would want McBackup (or Martin) . McEllhinney is pretty old. We do have Picard or even Sparks we could offer them and maybe get a better pick instead of 6th. I know they are doing us a favour taking Martin back, but would like to see some kind of return if possible.
It wouldn’t surprise me if we see Marleau trades back to SAN Jose final year of his contract, so he can retire a Shark (as he should) . I guess it depends on how well he performs for us next year. If he does as good as he did last season, we could probably get a decent return for him.
These are nice safe depth trades and signings that would I prove the current roster. I like the defense you have suggested, though I still wonder what happened to Hainsey?
2.) 12 Jun 2018 12:24:28
Oops sorry hainsey is the 7th d man in 2018-19 then gone sorry.
3.) 12 Jun 2018 12:37:23
Don’t understand the Horton trade. Why give up an asset to get rid of a guy who does not impact the cap?
4.) 13 Jun 2018 00:21:06
Why would you make Hainsey our 7th defenseman? Seems like a real waste. If your not going to play him, you should trade him for assets.
5.) 13 Jun 2018 03:48:59
$5 million a year for Kapanen and Johnsson doesn't make any sense. They are both middle 6 players coming off their ELCs.
Johnsson: 3 years at $3 million a year.
Kapanen: 3 years at 3.5 million a year.
If either one wants more, trade them.
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17 Oct 2018 16:12:29
If we aren't going to get rid of marleaus contract this offseason we are going to need to trade willie. Obviously if we trade willie we want a defenseman back. Ideally I like pesce Parayko Ristolainen tanev Myers but I'm unsure if st.louis Vancouver or Winnipeg would be willing to part with them. I think nylander for Ristolainen straight up would be a great trade for both teams.
Patty-Matt's-kappy = 6.25+12.75+3=22mil
Hym-tav-marn = 2.25+11+8.75=22mil
Lindholm-kadri-brown 1.5+4.5+2=8 mil
Leivo-Gauthier-Ennis 1+750k+750k=2.5mil
54.5mil
Rielly-Ristolainen = 5+5.5=10.5mil
Gardiner-zaitsev 5+4.5=9.5mil
Dermott-Ozhiganov 1+1=2mil
22mil
Freddy=5 mil
Sparks=1 mil
6 mil
Kessel 1mil
Overall 54.5+22mil+6mil+1mil
=83.5mil which is cutting it close but we could let gardiner walk and sign a cheaper bottom pairing LHD for 2-3 mil and let Dermott become the second behind rielly.
The year after marleau comes off the books + cap continues to go up allows us to sign bridge players hyman Dermott and kapanen which we would have about 10-15mil to get all signed and we would have Lilly and Sandin close to NHL ready.
Dubas.....make it happen
26 Jun 2018 21:46:27
Why does everyone hate gardiner so much? He put up 52 points yes he has some give aways as he's an offensive defenseman but he's a solid second pairing guy could be first pairing if the leafs didn't have rielly. Maybe in a 3 way trade with a right gander coming back or something like the Hamilton trade but if it's for prospects or forwards I don't understand it they finished 6th don't you want to win now?
Leafs: gardiner 2nd
Edm: Nurse
1.) 27 Jun 2018 00:54:24
Gardiner
He can’t skate backwards
He can’t handle a forechecker within 10’ of him
He chokes when the pressure is on
He makes really poor decisions on pinching at the blue line of the opposition
Heard enough?
2.) 27 Jun 2018 02:57:58
Hacksaw
You forgot: he can’t hit, can’t take a hit, can’t fight, can't clear the net, he coughs up the puck too much, he thinks he’s a forward, can’t keep his man, and can’t remain in position.
3.) 27 Jun 2018 15:58:19
He wouldve made a great rover back in the day.
4.) 27 Jun 2018 20:04:34
Everyone makes bad pinches when you pinch it’s a risk reward thing he also makes a ton of great pinches. He handles the second most minutes on a top 10 team put up some of the best even strength numbers and was playing with Roman polak or a 75% healthy beaten up zaitsev. He’s a great defenseman people and media blow it up out of per portion. I don’t see anyone jump on rielly or Dermott if they make a mistake but when gardiner makes one all hell breaks loose. I’m not saying he’s the best dman in the league but he’s not as bad as you all make it out to be and trust me if gardiner does get traded or walks next year you will miss him for the offense and team will be worse.
5.) 27 Jun 2018 21:40:20
Boopy, Is that really you Jake?
23 Dec 2018 18:44:28
a top 9 forward a solid nhl defensman and a late first wouldn't be able to get pesce out of carolina? I would jump all over that if i was a team under .500 looking for a shakeup.
03 Dec 2018 19:13:33
sorry but its 2 proven defenders 2 semi proven defenders and 2 players that haven't played a single game in the nhl how can you say its one of the best in the league based on promise.
21 Nov 2018 18:50:02
leafs win this too hard take out dermott put in gardiner and a second and they would most likely consider that.
johnsson-matthews-pul
hym-tav-mar
marl-kad-kap
ennis-lindholm-leivo
rielly-larsson
nurse-hainsey
dermott-zaitsev
anderson
this team looks scary
but these monsters rarely every happen so more realistic nylander 2nd for larsson and pul.
17 Oct 2018 18:34:08
It would be hard to watch gardiner walk for nothing considering how our defense is currently. As much as people may hate gardiner him and zaitsev eat up 22-24 minutes a night usually while he produces a lot of assists. As much as we can say we have Lilly and Sandin coming up neither of them are guaranteed to be NHL players let alone solid top 4 guys. Ideally Lilly is ready for next year and slots in on the second pairing with Dermott behind zaitsev and the bottom pair is something like Rosen and Ozhiganov but even still our defense is lacking one more solid top 4 guy to sure it up.
13 Aug 2018 21:21:03
Why are you so focused on replacing kadri? He signed for 3 more years and will probably re sign I just don’t understand it.
27 Jun 2018 20:04:34
Everyone makes bad pinches when you pinch it’s a risk reward thing he also makes a ton of great pinches. He handles the second most minutes on a top 10 team put up some of the best even strength numbers and was playing with Roman polak or a 75% healthy beaten up zaitsev. He’s a great defenseman people and media blow it up out of per portion. I don’t see anyone jump on rielly or Dermott if they make a mistake but when gardiner makes one all hell breaks loose. I’m not saying he’s the best dman in the league but he’s not as bad as you all make it out to be and trust me if gardiner does get traded or walks next year you will miss him for the offense and team will be worse.