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16 Feb 2019 22:41:35
This is a not thought out trade so let's roll the dice and see what I piece together.

Columbus: panarin bobrovky 2022 1st rnd pick
Toronto: nylander zaitsev brown borgman sparks 2019 2nd 2020 2nd

The thought process from both sides is toronto goes for it this year,2 goalies that struggle in the playoffs maybe between them they can win a series. My lineups after this become
Panarin matthews kapanen
Hyman tavares marner
Johnsson kadri ennis
Moore goat lindholm

Reilly hainsey
Muzzin dermott
Gardiner ozhi.

Andersen
Bob

That 2022 first could end up huge for toronto if columbus can't find a goalie, and Nylander can't run a line.

Randy

1.) 16 Feb 2019 23:50:57
Columbus will get a greater return for them as individual deals but i would do this deal only reason being, toronto was panarins runner up when he signed with chicago and if we got rid of nylander and zaitzev, and possiblly brown later on down the line we could possibly resign him.


2.) 17 Feb 2019 00:33:18
Im starting to like all your ideàs. i mean having a vezina guy as a backup/ insurance policy is huge. go with anderson till he loses then go with bob for a couple games to keep him fresh. never know roll the dice. panerin is better by multiple of pie between him and nylander. his play circles multiple times around that of nylander.

I think if columbus deals these guys now they want roster players back and you give them that. i also think they aren't looking for bobs replacement this year as their backup is good enough or this whole dealing bobs notion wouldn't be a notion ufa possible or not.

Panarin is as good as gone this summer. win a cup who cares. losing nylanders contract plus zaitsev that's huge. will colombus want zaitsev? that's debatable

All those picks forget. its plausible all players involved may just be enough to pull this off

Well though out deal. very impressed. little tweaks and you may be on to something here.


3.) 17 Feb 2019 01:22:46
While I doubt this trade happens for various reasons, I will say this Randy: you got one helluva imagination. Lol. Let’s jusy say we managed to pull off a trade of some sort and scored both these guys. Now do you keep them, or do you let them go? And if you keep Panarin, who do you let go instead?


4.) 17 Feb 2019 06:22:13
Why winning a cup helps losing both so just go for it.


5.) 17 Feb 2019 10:26:02
Back to drawing board.

Leafs are giving up only one player of significance AND getting a first?

Two of the best UFA's for this package WITH a first is not happening.


6.) 17 Feb 2019 15:32:12
Then lose the first. easy solution.


7.) 17 Feb 2019 21:13:30
I'm just going to say that I like it, but it will never happen and leave it at that.


 

 

16 Feb 2019 20:42:20
Leafs: brown johnsson
Oilers: nurse 7th

Leafs: zaitsev timashov
Ottawa: ceci

Dont qualify ceci in the summer, offer him 1.5 mil if he doesn't take it let him walk lines become

Marleau matthews nylander
Hyman tavares marner
Moore kadri kap
Ennis goat lindholm

Reilly nurse
Muzzin dermott
Gardiner ceci
Hainsey gets to alternate with ceci.

Next year defense likely becomes
Reilly nurse
Muzzin dermott
Sandin/marincin lily/holl

Edmonton does this trade because they can run johnsson mcdavid brown as a budget topline, and those 2 would compliment mcdavid with the defensive aptitude and the speed and finish.

Randy

1.) 16 Feb 2019 23:47:28
I agree that the edmonton trade could happen, but i don't think we should use johnsson as a piece for a left D, our left side now and moving forward is plenty sufficient after gardiner walks we will have Rielly Muzzin and Dermott down the left. johnssons value in a trade is best suited to grab a right D.

as for the ottawa deal I would rather see what it would take to pry Demelo away from them, he is a much lower liabilaty in his own end over Ceci and is a much lower cap hit.


2.) 17 Feb 2019 00:24:30
I like your thought on this one. I've said it many many times. edmonton is going to ask for dermott. would everyone be prepared for that to get a nurse who plays rhd and be a great guy with reilly?

Ottawa says yes every day and who knows maybe ceci works out and leafs get him signed small tetm and money.

Either way good starting point for both deals. well done.


3.) 17 Feb 2019 01:35:23
Zaitsev might actually be the better player. Hard to believe I know. But he is ranked higher. And Ceci’s possession stats are garbage. Among the worst in the league. So we might not have to include Timashov. Otherwise, I think it’s a good idea.

The Edmonton trade they might want Kapanen instead of Johnsson. Brown doesn’t have the same skill set for Edmonton’s RW need. But either/ or I would think is a good deal for Nurse, who is having an outstanding season.

And finally, just to be a bit nit picky, I actually think we see Rosen, and maybe Borgman, make the team next year ahead of Sandin and Liljegren. Injuries really set back Sandin and Lilly’s development this year. But you definitely have the right idea bringing in low cost players to keep costs in the back end low so we can afford our high priced forwards.

As always Randy, I love it. You got one heck of an intuition and a keen hockey iq. A fantastic opportunist, I absolutely love your proposals. I always enjoy reading your posts, and your comments reveal a high level of passsion for the game. Stay safe my friend, dress warm, and keep on keeping on. Lol.


4.) 17 Feb 2019 10:28:39
OTT not trading Ceci to TOR.


 

 

15 Feb 2019 00:44:01
Tor: brown zaitsev 3rd 2019
Ott: ceci 7th 2019

Randy

1.) 15 Feb 2019 03:51:56
Randy. I tho k you nailed it. I absolutely love this trade, and I’m not joking. It works so well for both teams. This might actually be the best Zaitsev trade I’ve seen yet.

I’ve watched a few games with Ceci play, but never really watched him, if you know what I’m saying. Virtually every article I’ve read on Ceci says he sucks donkey balls. Sure enough, Zaitsev is actually ranked higher. Yet Ceci has more points than Zaitsev, plays more minutes, is younger, and is more physical. Best of all, he is RFA end of season, so he can be re-signed for a lot less than what he is currently making.

You’re giving up Brown and the 3rd here because you want to compensate Ottawa for taking Zaitsev. But by all accounts, Zaitsev might actually be the better player.

Ottawa receives a better and cheaper defenseman, a higher pick, and a reliable depth winger to boot. If anything, this trade favors Ottawa. But, Leafs get out of Zaitsev’s contract and can re-sign Ceci to a short term much cheaper contract.

It’s a win-win. I think this is a homerun here Randy. I’m jealous I didn’t float this proposal. Lol. Hope you had a good day my friend. It’s always a pleasure reading your stuff. You always have good ideas. But this one was quite possibly the best Zaitsev trade I’ve ever seen. I love it. I really do.


2.) 15 Feb 2019 21:14:09
I always like to swap my picks to give up a 3rd get a 7th back, take a lottery ticket over nothing.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 09:12:34
Leafs get mcdavid
Edmonton gets matthews johnsson 2019 second

Leafs get parayko
St louis gets nylander

Leafs get 3rd round pick
Any team gets zaitsev

Leafs get 1st round pck any bubble team gets gardiner

Leafs get orlov washingyon gets third round pick.

Lineup becomes

Marleau mcdavid kapanen
Hyman tavares marner
Moore kadri brown
Ennis goat lindholm

Reilly parayko
Muzzin orlov
Dermott ozhi

Solves cap problems ice a nearly as
Ppotent offense and a much better suppression defence.

Randy

1.) 09 Feb 2019 16:46:24
Idiotic.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 17:18:29
Trading Gardiner for a pick won’t work if you ask me. Sure, it would be nice to dump him for any sort of return rather than have him walk for nothing. But unless we are getting something back that can help us for this year’s playoff run in, then I don’t think Dubas will pull the trigger.

Even if this offer for McDavid was fair, Edmonton still isn’t going to be trading him unless they get a very overwhelmingly lopsided completely unfair offer.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 18:19:27
Terrible.


 

 

03 Feb 2019 20:23:01
Tor:Zaitsev gardiner brown 2019 2nd 2020 1st any prospect not named scott bracco lily sandin or that little 3 lettered russian kid lol

Phili: ghost and frost

Lineups:
Marleau matthews marner
Hyman tavares nylander
Johnsson kadri kapanen
Lindholm/ennis goat moore

Muzzin reilly
Ghostisbere hainsey
Dermott ozhi

Randy

1.) 03 Feb 2019 23:40:59
you are aware there is a salary cap? no way Philly could fit these players in their cap.


2.) 04 Feb 2019 01:59:11
Yes they can.


 

 

 

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15 Feb 2019 21:14:09
I always like to swap my picks to give up a 3rd get a 7th back, take a lottery ticket over nothing.

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14 Feb 2019 23:55:12
Id rather keep hyman.

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09 Feb 2019 08:57:29
Nope huge over payment.

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06 Feb 2019 07:42:11
Not him though, he's a gardiner that doesn't put up as many points.

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01 Feb 2019 20:58:32
Im assuming leafs gm this is based around the trade i proposed yesterday in which i think we could add another pick tops to make it happen. People are forgetting what karlsson ( top 5 defenseman in the league went for. ) Parayko even with term doesn't get you a karlsson return.

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