17 Oct 2018 16:12:29
If we aren't going to get rid of marleaus contract this offseason we are going to need to trade willie. Obviously if we trade willie we want a defenseman back. Ideally I like pesce Parayko Ristolainen tanev Myers but I'm unsure if st.louis Vancouver or Winnipeg would be willing to part with them. I think nylander for Ristolainen straight up would be a great trade for both teams.

Patty-Matt's-kappy = 6.25+12.75+3=22mil
Hym-tav-marn = 2.25+11+8.75=22mil
Lindholm-kadri-brown 1.5+4.5+2=8 mil
Leivo-Gauthier-Ennis 1+750k+750k=2.5mil
54.5mil


Rielly-Ristolainen = 5+5.5=10.5mil
Gardiner-zaitsev 5+4.5=9.5mil
Dermott-Ozhiganov 1+1=2mil
22mil
Freddy=5 mil
Sparks=1 mil
6 mil
Kessel 1mil

Overall 54.5+22mil+6mil+1mil
=83.5mil which is cutting it close but we could let gardiner walk and sign a cheaper bottom pairing LHD for 2-3 mil and let Dermott become the second behind rielly.
The year after marleau comes off the books + cap continues to go up allows us to sign bridge players hyman Dermott and kapanen which we would have about 10-15mil to get all signed and we would have Lilly and Sandin close to NHL ready.

Dubas.....make it happen


1.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 16:52:57
You are missing three players totaling another $2 MM, you will have to take it out of MM and AM AND kAPANENE and the third liine. Where is Johnsson.


2.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 17:27:41
They can keep Marleau - they have some very smart and well paid people whose job it is to figure out contracts and the cap. I trust them far more than a nobody like you.


3.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 17:27:45
It is unlikely that Buffalo will trade Ristolainen, especially not to a division rival
The only defenceman they have behind him is Dahlin, so no chance.


4.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 17:50:23
@Boopy and @heatdreamer

Gardiner is the player that would have to be removed. Insert Liljegren, Sandin (or Holl), Johnsson, and a plug

Depending on how many points he gets, Giveaway is likely to get an offer exceeding the $5M proposed here anyway.


5.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 18:33:42
GM

can we sign giveaway this for going forward and trade him this year and when could we do so. Than what is a signed Gardiner worth.


6.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 18:34:08
It would be hard to watch gardiner walk for nothing considering how our defense is currently. As much as people may hate gardiner him and zaitsev eat up 22-24 minutes a night usually while he produces a lot of assists. As much as we can say we have Lilly and Sandin coming up neither of them are guaranteed to be NHL players let alone solid top 4 guys. Ideally Lilly is ready for next year and slots in on the second pairing with Dermott behind zaitsev and the bottom pair is something like Rosen and Ozhiganov but even still our defense is lacking one more solid top 4 guy to sure it up.


7.) 17 Oct 2018
17 Oct 2018 18:59:52
Gardiner will be wanting long term and NTC. A sign and trade for a player his age is unlikely. We won’t get the return we want.

We don’t have to let Gardiner walk. We can trade him before deadline for futures. I would prefer dumping Giveaways for anything at this point. However given Leafs recent past history, I think that’s unlikely. Dubas won’t risk jeopardizing our playoff hopes. If he’s feels it doesn’t immediately increase our odds at winning the cup, he won’t make a move.