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25 Aug 2018 15:42:56
Players we aren't realistically trading: Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly, Dermott, Liljegren, Andersen.
By realistically I mean I don't expect a McJesus for Kadri trade being offered up by Edmonton.
1.) 25 Aug 2018 16:10:54
Wow, what incredible insight. Do you have more?
2.) 25 Aug 2018 16:50:08
This coming from a person with 0 rumour posts.
11 Aug 2018 18:37:44
Leafs trade 2019 1st, Carrick, and Horton.
Red Wings trades Kronwall
Leafs trade Gardiner, Bracco, 2019 2nd, and 2020 3rd.
Blue Jackets trade Panarin
Panarin - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Kadri - Kapanen
Johnsson - Lindholm - Brown
Ennis and Jooris
Rielly - Kronwall
Dermott - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Ozhiganov
Rosen
Andersen
Sparks
1.) 11 Aug 2018 21:26:49
Absolute no to the Kronwall trade. He’s so old and useless now. Better off with Hainsey. I don’t really like the idea of using one of futures (1st) to trade for a rental veteran on blueline when we already have Hainsey just for that purpose.
2.) 11 Aug 2018 22:24:24
Kronwall's a real interesting target. If he doesn't cost much to bring in, I say go for it.
3.) 11 Aug 2018 22:47:34
I would never give up a first for Kronwall he old as hell.
4.) 11 Aug 2018 23:46:48
Leafs 2018
I nearly fell over when I read your trade.
2019 first rounder carrick and Horton for kromwell 37 year old kronwall?
Like why?
Number one Horton is not hurting cap leafs can stick him on LTR amd presto his salary disappears.
Do you understand that?
Come on dude give me a break.
5.) 12 Aug 2018 02:11:30
Ok. to those who say Kronwall is too old. Yes he is 37, but he is able to play 17-18 minutes a night and I think it is preferable to have a defense by committee than trade premium assets for a bigger name defenseman. In this scenario the value of the first round pick is partially for Kronwall and partially to get Horton off our books. Part b of this post was acquiring Panarin. Using capfriendly you'll see that this line up would leave us 5.6M in cap space with 5.8M in possible performance bonuses, hence the reason of trading Horton.
Davidmackin your ignorance again comes at no surprise. If the Leafs use LTIR than the bonuses roll to next year. In case you haven't heard, and I suspect you are ignorant to this, the Leafs need every dollar in cap space in 2019-20 meaning avoiding bonus overages is a must this season. I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but then again you are Davidmackin.
Alternatively the Leafs can leave enough cap room to cover performance bonuses while not putting Horton on LTIR in the 2018-19 season. This would mean signing Nylander for around 6.5M per season and being able to do little else.
6.) 12 Aug 2018 10:39:42
Leafs2018
Again Horton is the least of their worries
Gardener is gone at season end if they don’t trade him b4.
Any slip in Marleau game they will trade him back to San Jose after July 1 2019 where his actually pay check is peanuts. They could save 6.5 million in cap space there as well.
Liljegren is here late this season or next season for sure. The leafs strength is they have so many wingers that don’t make much money
Kapanen
Brown
Hyman
Johnson
Grundstrom
Then there is kadri on cheap deal
Large cap hits are
Tavares
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Leafs need to add on defence going forward they have
Reilly zaitsev
Dermott Liljegren
Rosen Holl
They need to add on defence but their pay structure is not that bad.
7.) 12 Aug 2018 10:54:31
Roster 2019-20
Hyman Matthews nylander
Johnson Tavares marner
Brown kadri kapanan
Grundstrom
I don’t see their top 9 suffering anytime soon.
8.) 12 Aug 2018 15:46:45
Of course you just ignore this coming season and come with a 2019-20 season that is made up of 10 forwards and Holl playing defense. And if Marleau doesn't slip this season playing with Nylander and Matthews? Do you still trade him then? I know math is clearly not your strength, but give us a break.
9.) 12 Aug 2018 17:56:43
Leafs2018
Your the one that is saying Horton is problem 2019-20 because of the contract bonuses owed to Mathews and marner after this season
It’s 50 - 50 wheather marleau gets traded after July 1 2019
Trading him would clean up 6 million in cap space
Gardener and Hainsey are gone end season
Those 3 players gone saves leafs over 14 million dollars
Leafs have players that could easily replace marleau and gardener and Haines are not going to be extended.
10.) 12 Aug 2018 18:07:14
Marleau is only owed 1.25 million dollars after July 1 2019. Teams that don’t spentd to the cap would love to have him.
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11.) 12 Aug 2018 19:39:19
Davidmackin please learn how the salary cap works.
12.) 13 Aug 2018 01:04:34
Kronwall?
What do Leafs want with a 37 year old, broken down defenseman.
To include a 1st makes the suggestion almost embarrassing!
I wouldn't even want the Leafs to trade Carrick for Kronwall straight up?
25 Jul 2018 20:06:30
Calgary trades - Bennett
Toronto trades - Leivo, Carrick, and Pickard
New York Rangers trades - 6th round pick
Toronto trades - McElhinney
3 way trade:
To Toronto - Colton Parayko
To Ottawa - Gardiner, Nielsen, Bracco, Toronto 1st rounder 2019, Toronto 2nd rounder 2020
To St. Louis - Karlsson, Ottawa 2nd rounder 2019
Toronto signs Nylander 8 x 6.5M
Toronto signs Sbisa 1 x 1.5M
Line up:
Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
Grundstrom - Bennett - Brown
Ennis
Reilly - Parayko
Dermott - Zaitsev
Sbisa - Hainsey
Hill
Andersen
Sparks
4.1M in cap space remaining without Horton on LTIR and 3.7M in potential performance bonuses.
1.) 25 Jul 2018 21:39:59
Calgary definitely passes. Bennett may not have lived up to his potential, but he hasn’t certainly performed better than the older Carrick and Leivo, who combined have played less games than Bennett has already. I don’t see a fit for Carrick in Calgary either.
The three way trade is interesting and could almost be conceivable. I assume both Gardiner and Karlsson would have extensions in place first, otherwise Ottawa and St. Louis pass. As it is, I’m still not sure Ottawa would make the trade.
Eriksson, Ottawa 2nd > Gardiner, Toronto 2nd. So the difference you suggest is a 1st, Nielson, Bracco, which may not be enough for Ottawa.
St. Louis appears to be winners as Karlsson is ranked much higher than Parayko, and they receive Ottawa’s 2nd. If you tweak the trade a little and remove Ottawa’s 2nd and allow them to keep it, it looks a little more fair value in my eyes.
2.) 25 Jul 2018 23:14:40
The idea of Gardiner in Ottawa is that they could trade him for even more futures as they are in full on tear it down mode.
22 Jul 2018 21:10:42
Gardiner to Winnipeg
Myers to Toronto
Leivo, Pickard, and Carrick to Calgary
Bennett to Toronto
McElhinney to New York Rangers
5th Round Pick to Toronto
Sign Hamhuis 1 year 1.5M
Sign Nylander 8 years 6.67M
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Bennett-Brown
Ennis
Rielly-Myers
Hamhuis-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey
Holl
Andersen
Sparks
Horton is NOT placed on LTIR in order to avoid bonus carry over.
3.975M in cap space left with 3.7M in performance bonuses possible.
1.) 22 Jul 2018 21:26:37
With the Trouba situation still up in the air for next summer. The Jets will not be trading Myers this year.
2.) 22 Jul 2018 22:07:17
Well I guess they won't trade him at all because his contract is up after this season. BTW Trouba got awarded 5.5M for this coming season.
3.) 23 Jul 2018 01:24:39
Not sure Calgary would bite and I don't want Hamhuis but Myers for Gardner would satisfy the needs of both teams and both players are on expiring contracts.
4.) 23 Jul 2018 02:00:53
I like the Calgary trade. Don’t think Calgary would make it, but if we could swing something along those lines it definitely has its appeal. Bennett is young and has not lived up to expectations, so will be cheap. A change of scenery might be just what he needs to turn his career around, and maybe in a couole years he could even be a possible replacement for Kadri. It’s also a good trade because you are moving out more contracts than you are bringing in, so gives Leafs more flexibility down the road.
Not sure how I feel about Hamhuis. We already have so many depth defensemen. Do we really need another?
5.) 23 Jul 2018 02:46:47
Replace Grundström with Lindholm and u got a deal with the lines, I would like Bennet because our centers would be the best top 4 in the league.
31 May 2018 03:39:25
If Washington wants to resign John Carlson, they will need to clear some space.
Leafs trade: Nielsen, Bracco, and SJ's 2nd
Capitals trade: Niskanen
Niskanen becomes a 3 year stop gap logging minutes until Liljegren is ready for big minutes.
Leafs sign John Tavares 7 x 10M.
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Aaltonen/Lindholm-Brown
Rielly-Niskanen
Gardiner-Hainsey
Dermott-Zaitsev
Andersen
McElhinney
Leafs then can either trade Gardiner this summer or during season, let Hainsey's contract expire and move Dermott up, Liljegren in with Ozhiganov, Borgman, or Rosen coming up for depth.
Fits under the cap with Matthews at 11M, Marner at 8M, and Nylander at 7M.
1.) 31 May 2018 09:52:44
Caps keep niskanen
Caps will lose Carlson. I say he goes rangers. We see but Rangers traded Mcdonagh. I’m sure they had replacement in mind Carlson. Rangers were very smart at deadline they loaded up with pics and cap space I’m sure they have two targets Tavares and Carlson. They may not get both but they will grab at least one, I say Carlson heads to New York. Where would you prefer to play Washington or Manhattan.
2.) 31 May 2018 18:49:00
Niskanen is worth way more than what you are offering here. I would love to have him on the team. If you think Caps are going to give away one of their best defensemen to try and free up cap space, I’m afraid you may need to re-assess the situation. I don’t know how Caps will work it, but if they want Carlson back, I don’t think it will be Niskanen who is going to be the fall guy.
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09 Aug 2018 19:35:46
Center: With Matthews, Tavares, and Kadri filling the top three roles, realistically the 4th line center will only be required for 6-7 minutes a night. Currently on the roster the Leafs have Lindholm, Ennis, and Jooris that can all play center. Lindholm may have the inside track now, however with a good camp any one of the three could earn his way into the 4C role.
Wingers: The Leafs have a good balance of wingers on the roster already with youth and speed being counter balanced by hard working, puck retrievers that work the cycle game in the offensive zone. It would be nice to balance with a young speedy skilled forward and a hard worker that get pucks out to the skilled centers and wingers. Under the current roster, the Leafs would need to acquire a 2LW or 3LW in order to achieve this balance.
Defense: The Leafs biggest glaring hole is clearly on defense. On the left side, as currently constructed, Rielly, Gardiner, and Dermott are above average as a group depending on what partner they are paired with. In 2018-19 Dermott could end up pushing for the 2LHD position which would bode well for the future as it is unexpected that the Leafs could afford to resign Jake Gardiner. On the right side the Leafs have a below average group. Currently on the roster there is no real defense partner to play with Rielly and this represents the one hole that is holding the team back from true contender status. Zaitsev is coming off a below average with injury and illness limiting him to 60 games played in which he clearly was not what he was in 2016-17 when he proved to be an adequate 2RHD and earned a 7 year 31.5M contract. For argument sake let's say he can return this coming season healthy and can reassert himself at the 2RHD position partnering with Jake Gardiner. Ron Hainsey started last year playing solid minutes with Rielly, however as the season dragged on his play dropped off probably from being asked to play too many minutes, especially on the penalty kill. It is imperative that Hainsey's role is reduced to save his minutes for important games in the playoffs where he can be effective.
Goalie: The starting goalie position is filled with Andersen, however the backup role with be a battle at camp this year. The incumbent, McElhinney, provided solid numbers last season, is fondly remembered for taking over for an injured Andersen against Pittsburgh and stoning Crosby to preserve the win in Toronto's playoff clinching victory in 2016-17. Sparks just won the AHL's most outstanding goalie and led the Marlies to the Calder cup with dazzling with a 1.79 GAA and .936 SV%. Pickard did a commendable job as backup to Sparks in the AHL and played in 33 games posting a 2.31 GAA and .918 SV%. He has also appeared in 87 NHL games in his career. The crux of the problem is that all three candidates require waivers to send down to the Marlies and there is significant risk that at least would be claimed.
Moves:
- The first move would be to sign a 2LW or 3LW that could be the counter balance described above. Depending on his health, I would sign Rick Nash to a one-year contract. He would be an ideal big body that could play up and down the line up when needed and provide what the Leafs need playing with either Tavares/Marner or Kadri/Kapanen. An alternative, if Nash doesn't want to sign in Toronto or retires, is to put Hyman with Tavares/Marner and move Ennis onto 3LW to play with Kadri/Kapanen. This would not lead to the balance on the wings but is cost effective.
- Depending on what we see from the backups candidates in camp I would promote Sparks to the backup role as he proved last year that he has no more growing to do in the AHL. While McElhinney put up very good numbers last year, we need to get more starts out of our backup to rest Andersen for the playoffs. If we can get 25 good starts from the back up that would mean 9 less starts for Andersen and a lot less rubber in the regular season.
- Now the elephant in the room, 1RHD. Next to 1C, this may be the most difficult piece to get and thus most expensive to obtain. Candidates: Petry, Trouba/Myers, Spurgeon, Faulk/Pesce, Tanev, Parayko. Trouba or Myers are probably going to be expensive and Winnipeg wants to win now and thus will require current players and not picks or prospects. Spurgeon is a decent defenseman but is small and not the type of player the Leafs need. Tanev is often injured and it would be foolish to expend too much to obtain him, and can he be trusted to handle top pairing minutes with Rielly. Parayko is exactly what the Leafs need but St Louis and Toronto don't make good trading partners at the moment without Toronto giving up a core piece which Dubas says he won't do. Faulk would be more of a Rielly/Gardiner type acquisition rather than a stay at home big body to complement Rielly's game. Target #1 would be Pesce and a backup plan would be Petry if Montreal retained some salary. Would Leivo, Carrick, Pickard, a 2019 1st ,2020 2nd, and a conditional 2019 4th if Pickard is claimed off waivers be enough to land Pesce?
Trade Chips: Draft picks, Leivo, Carrick, McElhinney, Pickard
Marleau - Matthews - Nylander
Nash - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Kadri - Kapanen
Johnsson - Lindholm - Brown
Extras: Ennis, Jooris
Rielly - Pesce
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey
Extras: Rosen, Borgman, Ozhiganov
Andersen
Sparks
1.) 10 Aug 2018 16:25:04
Yes I love this trade, it fits the leafs perfectly, although we are giving a lot up Pesce would be a solid get and would work very well with Reilly, then it leaves the leafs some options to move Gardiner if Ozhiganov proves himself to be a very solid defender.
30 May 2018 20:46:48
If Washington wants to resign John Carlson, they will need to clear some space.
Leafs trade: Nielsen, Bracco, and SJ's 2nd
Capitals trade: Niskanen
Niskanen becomes a 3 year stop gap logging minutes until Liljegren is ready for big minutes.
Leafs sign John Tavares 7 x 10M.
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Aaltonen/Lindholm-Brown
Rielly-Niskanen
Gardiner-Hainsey
Dermott-Zaitsev
Andersen
McElhinney
Leafs then can either trade Gardiner this summer or during season, let Hainsey's contract expire and move Dermott up, Liljegren in with Ozhiganov, Borgman, or Rosen coming up for depth.
Fits under the cap with Matthews at 11M, Marner at 8M, and Nylander at 7M.
1.) 01 Jun 2018 03:16:42
These are my favorite posts. Not only do the Leafs sign Tavares, but that they would be stupid enough to play him as the 2C.
Tavares won't be signing anywhere where he isn't the featured player on the top line. Why would he agree to play behind someone that he is better than?
2.) 01 Jun 2018 17:02:47
Claiming that Tavares would come to this team playing 2C is a little trivial. He would join the Leafs top point scorer from last year and the teams most experienced winger in Marner and Marleau, a line which was counted on to play the big minutes in the big moments down the stretch last year. He would also likely join Kadri and Marner on the team's number 1 powerplay unit. The order you write down the lines is meaningless, it could easily be stated as.
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
. And represent the same thing in terms of ice time and situational deployment. Is Malkin a 2C just because his line is always written second? Does anyone really think Malkin cares about that? I think he's far more interested in the Cups.
09 Sep 2018 22:49:12
Not sure if Benning is that much of an upgrade over Carrick to give up cheap depth players for.
28 Aug 2018 19:53:36
I fail to see how Ritchie, Crouse, Gurianov, and Faksa improve us at any of the positions you placed them in. We don't know what we have in Par Lindholm yet but he is as much of a question mark as any of the players except Faksa.
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Ennis-Kadri-Kapanen
Johnsson-Lindholm-Brown
Leivo and Jooris
This line up is objectively better than what you posted, not to mention the Defensemen. I like Hampus Lindholm but not at the expense of two top 4 dmen and our current forward depth. Only spot I would argue needs an upgrade in the above lines would be Ennis, but I would suggest targeting a player that is in need of a change of scenery like Sam Bennett. The price shouldn't be too high as he hasn't performed, but he could get his game back playing with Kadri and Kapanen. Finally, I don't think Liljegren is too pairing this year, he may make the team as a 3rd pairing guy out of camp or get called up in January/ February like Dermott last year.
Gardiner-Rielly
Dermott-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Liljegren
Carrick and Ozhiganov
If Dermott shows he is ready for increased playing time and Liljegren makes team out of camp.
28 Aug 2018 17:50:23
Wow. what made you think we need to "upgrade" our already stacked forward core, especially at the expense of our already average blue line. No more JFJ type managing please.
25 Aug 2018 16:50:08
This coming from a person with 0 rumour posts.
25 Aug 2018 15:37:40
We're not trading Kadri, and we're not trading Rielly.
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