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15 Feb 2020 09:58:25
Tor: kapanen Dermott
Cbj: savard Anderson 3rd

Since it's looking like the leafs are going to resign Muzzin and we got Sandin I can see them moving Dermott this move locks everything down going forward we have grit defence and back up goal tending

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1.) 15 Feb 2020 14:29:17
I agree that Dermott and Kapanen are our major trade chips. I don’t know how much I agree with this trade though. Obviously I like both players. No doubt about that. They bring a physical aspect to the game that Leafs at still lacking despite the acquisition of Clifford. The issues I see here though is that Anderson is having such a bad year. Kapanen has got to be more valuable right now that anything Anderson brings to the team. Just remember, we never traded a roster player in any of the Clifford or Muzzin deals, so I have a hard time seeing Anderson bring back a roster player, regardless of whether it is Kapanen or Dermott you value him at. Same can be said for Savard. I think everyone on site will agree Savard is a good target. But again, Dermott has got to be more valuable. Muzzin cost a 1st + 2xb-prospect, and I don’t think Savard will bring any more. He’s got the same term and cost as Muzzin when we traded for him, and is a very comparable player. Dermott is much younger, cheaper, has more upside, and is controllable for the next decade. He’s a very valuable asset. To me, just my opinion, Kapanen + Dermott >> Anderson + Savard, and the pick doesn’t make up the difference

I’d like to see Leafs give Dermott a shot on RHD before we trade him. As much as I like both targets coming in, I like our guys just a tad more. Could be bias though.


2.) 15 Feb 2020 15:33:39
Anderson has been dreadful this year, so I wouldn't give anything more than a 2nd round pick for him.


3.) 15 Feb 2020 15:34:03
All good points and I agree. If Savard had an extra year I would say this is a fair trade but right now it's a rental + a couple months. Not worth it.


4.) 16 Feb 2020 18:06:05
Savard does have one more year @ 4.25M it is a very fair trade for both! Though I agree with LeafsGM that I really like Dermott!


 

 

14 Feb 2020 10:43:01
Tor: Johnsson Barrie Timashov or Bracco
Cbj: Anderson savard

Hyman Matthews Marner
Nylander Tavares kapanen
Mikheyev Kerfoot Anderson
Clifford Spezza Engvall

Reilly savard
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Dermott

Kind of a long shot but looking at savard he's a great stay at home d and would allow Rielly to go back to the style he was playing last year with hainsey Anderson has had a piss poor year my thought buy low use him in a checking role this lineup let's us run 4 lines without worrying who's out there

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1.) 14 Feb 2020 22:53:07
Simply not enough!


 

 

11 Feb 2020 17:35:33
Tor: kapanen Johnsson
Min: Dumba 3rd 2020

Tor: ceci Korshkov Bracco Hollowell
Njd: Simmonds bahl

First trade is a must we need defence second trade is asset management Simmonds and ceci are two players that are on expiring contracts that are to much money Simmonds becomes a goon with Clifford also we add bahl who is big and a rhd

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1.) 11 Feb 2020 20:47:02
The Dumba trade is pretty close. Feel like the Leafs need a more steady top 4 defensive dman with the Leafs defensive chemistry then Dumba. Brodin or Manson seem to make more sense, either would look great with Reilly. I doubt they need to trade Ceci, I b surprised if he plays another regular season game with the Leafs, so they can safe salary cap space as a result. Simmonds is much more then a goon, b great in the dressing room, 2nd PP and I bet would have xtra jump in his legs playing for the Leafs and being from Toronto.


2.) 12 Feb 2020 01:28:00
Min wants a Center might have to be Kerfoot and kapanen maybe toss in another prospect.


3.) 12 Feb 2020 05:42:08
I would make both trades. Kinda.

The first deal, the value is there. Unfortunately, you are trading out two very good roster players and not being back another forward to help mitigate their loss. We have good depth guys. Kinda. But they won’t be able to replace Kapanen and Johnsson both. We might get lucky and see Engvall turn it around again. So he might replace one (Johnsson) . But after that, we’re struggling to find someone in the Leafs system that could adequately replace Kapanen.

The second deal I would make too. But again, with reservations. If it was just Bracco and Hollowell for Bahl, then absolutely. It gets more complicated when you suggest bringing Simmonds in. If you think he would replace either Johnsson or Kapanen, you’re probably wrong. He hits more, but that’s where the comparisons in his favor end. But, you aren’t trading out anything we need, so I guess it’s a “why not” situation. Ceci is unlikely to ever play for the Leafs again, while Bracco, Hollowell, Korshkov probably never will. So, we don’t lose anything other than the lost opportunity of what Ceci and Korshkov could bring to the team, which is absolutely nothing this year. If Simmonds scores even one OT winner the entire time he is on the team, then I guess we got what we prayed for from him.


4.) 12 Feb 2020 09:12:22
Yea definitely a hard decision to make Simmonds to me is a guy that can take on a leadership role with Toronto he plays a physical game and I wouldn’t mind grabbing a guy like him for the playoffs like you said ceci might not play again this year so why not trade him for something useful the prospects I listed are guys that will not play for the leafs only guy I’d miss would be Korshkov who is playing great this year in the ahl but other than that I’d say it’s a good move for the leafs.


 

 

10 Feb 2020 14:55:49
Tor: kapanen Barrie
Edm: nurse 2nd

To me that nurse deal doesn't seem right Toronto has had interest in him before and now that he has term could make for a good trade

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1.) 10 Feb 2020 15:27:17
Why on Earth would EDM accept this for a guy with term?


2.) 10 Feb 2020 16:06:35
Because they become a more offensive threat they get kapanen for longer and they have Bouchard and boberg or whatever his name is just find it weird that they would only sign him to a two year deal.


3.) 10 Feb 2020 16:21:43
They can't afford a longer term deal. They are up against the cap like we are so two years keeps him around and gives time to negotiate longer once cap space opens up.

They would not accept this though.


4.) 11 Feb 2020 01:31:47
I can’t see Oiler’s doing this either. I absolutely love the target. As a pending RFA, Nurse always had term. He still does. When his deal expires, he is still a RFA. So the term is there. The uncertainty is in cost. We don’t know what his AAV is going to be. But you can be sure that if he plays the next two seasons as good as he has the rest of his career so far, he will be making more than the $5M AAV he just signed for.


 

 

09 Feb 2020 23:41:50
Tor: kapanen Johnson Bracco
Phi: Myers JVR (3 mil retained)

JVR Matthews marner
Hyman Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Spezza Engvall
Clifford Gauthier Timashov

Muzzin Holl
Dermott Myers
Sandin Barrie

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16 Feb 2020 20:41:10
Where was this reported.

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16 Feb 2020 11:31:55
I think you can get him for less but I also think it’s a bad move he really isn’t great defensively and he hasn’t done much at the other end either would really only fill a roster spot.

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16 Feb 2020 11:28:33
For Toronto to be successful they need Andersen he’s been lacking confidence lately but still time to get that back and he will get the rest he needs down the stretch Carolina is looking for a depth dman so can’t see them moving Pesce or even niederitter.

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16 Feb 2020 11:25:37
That’s would of been my trade I never got the chance to explain why I think We should move the two leaf players someone brought up the fact that Anderson is having a poo year I agree. but that just means when we resign him there’s cap savings on that deal for sure ideally it would be Johnsson instead of kappy but he’s basically done for the season so he’s got literally zero trade value to a team that’s pushing for a playoff spot kappy is good I mean I said it before in the right situation I think he could easily become a 30 goal scorer but he can’t be that on the leafs stuck behind willie and Mitch kappys value to are team is his pk abilities. As for Dermott great player but don’t see what the leafs are going to do maybe he plays the right side this year but if they go out and get that rhd where does he fit you got new guy Holl Barrie on the right and Reilly Muzzin Sandin on the left and with how great Liljegren has looked you got to believe him and Sandin will be our bottom pairing guys next year like can’t believe how well Liljegren has looked same can be said with the forward group in a healthy roster how do you fit everyone leafs trade from a strength here.

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15 Feb 2020 09:46:30
Zero chance you get a 1st from Columbus.

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