Leafs talk 3

22 Nov 2025 10:58:21
I know people would say otherwise, but i think leafs should bring back bunting, hes familiar with t.o, didnt wanna leave, would be motivated back to the way he was with leafs..i know he hasn't been physical this season but that would change cause we know he could be, hes had his best season along matthews, i think hes exactly what the leafs need in the top 6, although hes not a big point producer he battles..30/40 pts...4.5 contract i think...we get rid of joshua or domi for him in a one for one or a mid pick added with either...or both with pick coming back with bunting u add monet to our cap....top 6 looks like


Knies tavares nylander

Bunting matthews cowan


Bottom 6


Mcmaan roy robertson


Lorentz laughton jarnkrok


These lines have it all griding playmaking scoring...well 3rd line is power, grinding scoring....although it makes me hurt to see domi go...hes causing the team to play poorly...hes an elite passer and good skater that's it but hes an idiot, mskes stupid decisions and takes stupid penalties, he does stick up for his team but too many ups and downs, get rid of domi joshua, bring in bunting, use those lines bring quillian into the mix, u still got money to add a significant player at deadline...although not a top division leader the team will finish 3rd...then u can get to defence, trade carlo and use money from getting rid of domi an joshua.. add puck mover...problem solved.

22 Nov 2025 17:27:45
If Bunting is cheap enough I'm fine bringing him back as well.

22 Nov 2025 19:39:40
No real interest in Bunting. Another mid/ bottom 6 guy that can play up the lineup but he's like Marner emotionally always whining and crying. Don't need that. imo.

21 Nov 2025 12:33:26
It now appears to me, despite my earlier posts, that Cowan is in fact NHL-ready.

All his skills (speed, motor, playmaking, battler and IQ) are showcased each game.
Keep him in the Top6 and don’t be trading him.

He and Tavares work well together.

21 Nov 2025 13:31:14
I too thought best to start Cowan in the AHL, but he's happily proving me wrong. He looks better and better with more games and definitely looks good besides JT (seem to have some chemistry) .
I'm just waiting for him to start converting some of those chances into goals.

21 Nov 2025 14:20:32
He gets more and more comfortable with each game. Here's the big question, Is he surpassing Robertson? If so, and he deserves to be in the top 6, is there a top 6 role for Robertson? Can he play with Matthews and Nylander?
When healthy, I think they should look at this for lines

? Matthews Nylander
Knies JT Cowan
Joshua Roy McMann
Lorentz Laughton?

Top line is either Domi or Robertson slotting in.
4th line is a mix of Domi, Jarnkrok, Blais.

To me, Robertson has to be in the top 6 or move on from him and get something in return. A young D prospect would be nice. I would sit Maccelli at this point which will make Clarky very happy. lol.

21 Nov 2025 19:33:16
I agree with giving Cowan and Robertson leeway and playing both in the top6. I’m more than OK with trading Domi. I love his speed but he’s not consistent, takes too many dumb penalties and gives away the puck too often.

Macelli is redundant featuring similar a skill set to Cowan and Robertson and carries a $3.43m hit.

I would make every effort to trade him to a team that needs a speedy playmaker. Maybe package him with Carlo and get a decent return.

Going to research that later.

I also like the look of Laughton this year. Just need him to stay in the lineup.

21 Nov 2025 19:35:39
RLF I don't know where to go anymore to be honest.
I'm still frustrated that Tre didn't get Roslovic in the off-season and punt Domi.
Anyways, too many different scenarios, possible line up:

Knies Matthews Nylander
Robertson Tavares Cowan
Laughton Roy McMann
Joshua Domi? Lorentz/ Maccelli
Blais

Maybe keep Robertson for now because I really don't want to deplete our cupboards any more trading for a top 6.
Split up Joshua & Roy (they are both too slow playing together IMO) .

Definitely look to trade Domi, Jarnkrok & Benoit.

Mintyukov may be a potential target, but would deplete cupboards a bit, however, he is still very young. Not sure what it would take, buy maybe a veteran D in OEL, plus a roster player and possibly a 1st (ouch) .

What do you guys think about Mintyukov?

21 Nov 2025 19:53:13
Tags, not sure the Leafs should really be in Mintyukov if it clears the cupboards, but maybe part of a 3 way deal where the Leafs add to an offer from the acquiring team and get a useful player in return from the team acquiring Mintyukov.

18 Nov 2025 16:55:24
Treliving's press Conference today was a complete cop-out that he will not admit that he has fu..ked up with this roster.

He will not move players that he signed because it makes him look incompetent.

He holds these players worth too high for what they produce and wants too much in return for these players.

He always finds fancy ways to beat around the bush instead of making examples of the ture problem players.

Yes you make lose on a trade for value but can gain on heart and determination.

This GM is a complete joke!

18 Nov 2025 22:18:17
Tre has done some things i disagreed with, but before this season started we all agreed he was doing a good job.

I can't blame Tre for Mathews not producing, Willy being Willy, McCabe suddenly looking like a 6D, Tanev out, on and on.

A lot of this roster is still Dubas players.

19 Nov 2025 13:55:30
But we can for Maccelli LL. I’ve said it was a mistake since day 1. Own it but trading him and move on.

19 Nov 2025 15:16:20
I don’t think it’s for the lack of trying he’s been trying to make moves if reports are true domi and Carlo are being shopped but it takes two to tango and I don’t think he’s gonna move someone just to make a trade.

19 Nov 2025 16:10:14
Making a trade for the sake of it would be poor asset and poor management skills. The Leafs are decimated with injuries at the moment, so if Tre had of just dumped guys for nothing prior, we wouldn't have a team to ice right now. Zito has been lauded as a great GM. Has Florida panicked and made a bunch of trades because they are only 1 point ahead of the Leafs? No they haven't.

19 Nov 2025 23:21:08
Macelli wss high reward zero risk. I am not concerned at all with burying him if need be when the tesm is healthy @Clarky

As RLF said, let's not start trading everyone just so another middle six winger can be brought in.

18 Nov 2025 05:28:01
I have to bring this up.

Kampf is gone. Fine. He isn't a game changer.

Could he not be a better C than Domi and move Domi back to the wing? All kinds of cap space right now.

19 Nov 2025 15:18:45
@LL I think that’s was the consensus everyone had but they didn’t have the cap space to bring him up for what I understand.

19 Nov 2025 16:11:02
It was time to move on. If he wasn't going to be a regular, move on from him.

17 Nov 2025 01:26:04
Leafs first thing they need to do is clean up their roster you don't need 4-5 extra forwards and 2-3 extra d so that where I'd start

Names like

Domi
Maccelli
Jarnkrok
Robertson
Benoit
Reilly

These are your trade assets none of them with exception in Reilly will bring back much but draft capital would be great I think one issue Toronto is gonna start having is attracting free agents so drafting will become valuable or target teams like Anaheim who have an abundance of quality prospects I don't think the leafs are a terrible team then just need to move off of players that aren't doing much and taking up a roster spot

17 Nov 2025 16:23:35
I think the only reason Leafs would chase draft capital and cap space is if they need it for someone (s) they already have in mind.

19 Nov 2025 15:20:08
@RLF that’s fine they just need to move some of these bodies out get some cap space to make a run at someone who can make a meaningful impact.

19 Nov 2025 16:14:06
Goat. Not really disagreeing, but had he have done so, we wouldn't be able to ice a team right now with all the injuries. It has been a catch 22 in so many areas for Tre this year. With the way they were playing and all the injuries, it's mind boggling how they are a .500 hockey team and only 5 pts out of 1st in their division.

16 Nov 2025 18:52:01
Treliving you are looking at the wrong players to trade,

Trade Rielly!

Trade Myers!

Trade Domi!

TRADE Marcelli! Yes another one of your fu..k ups!

They all SUCK!

You couldn't trade Kampf because You paid him too much!

Toronto just make a trade of some or all of these players so Real Leaf fans have a glimpse of hope!!!

16 Nov 2025 21:29:14
I really don't have that much of an issue with Mo. He's a second pairing offence first D and the only puck mover.

The real issue is, nobody can be put with him because they're all so bad right now and he shouldn't be on the top pairing.

16 Nov 2025 04:14:18
Anyone else watch that game thinking Bedard looks like exactly what Dubas thought the core 4 were? Young, exciting, dynamic, all over the ice, great skater, kid looked better than I expected.

Dubas and Shanny had a vision for this team those yesrs ago and it now reminds me of the post lockout Leafs. Big, old, slow, time passing them by.

16 Nov 2025 13:34:14
YUP
There is a reason Canucks and Utah passed on Joshua and Maccelli
Just two more examples of tredeadthing having no clue
Than he adds the lethargic Carlo for a serviceable 3rd line Center in Minten
Than he trades for Laughton
What a joke that trade is becoming
And on and on….

16 Nov 2025 17:27:42
Shanny and Dubas also thought that heart and physicality were overrated and as long as you have skill, you will be able to dangle around lesser skilled players even if they have heart. They undervalued the intangibles.
Im not saying drafting skill is a bad thing, but finding the ones that also have good character and a bit of meanness is more important. Bedard plays with drive and doesn't float. He is becoming what was expected.

16 Nov 2025 02:05:05
Another piece of garbage performance in Chicago
Nylander 0 shots again?
How does that even happen?
Entire team is in shambles
Coach Berube has quickly lost the room this season

Tredeadthing is a useless GM
Trades he has done have been disastrous
Hope the two donkeys treadeadthing and Berube get fired by Christmas
Than they can trade the heartless captain and half effort nylander for some prospects and high draft picks

16 Nov 2025 17:18:49
Hmm. I thought the team as a whole played much better. PP sucked, but PK looked much better and for the most part they hounded pucks and battled. Jarnkrok especially was great on the forecheck. They crashed the net, did alot of good things. Came up just short without Matthews, Tanev, Carlo, Laughton and might as well include Nylander as well since it was like he wasn't there anyway.

16 Nov 2025 02:01:03
2 games in a row now where more and more guys are trying to step up and Nylander has been brutal. Is he hurt? Sulking?

16 Nov 2025 13:30:21
He’s sulking
You can see it in his body language.

16 Nov 2025 15:44:56
He's always been like this. It's his time of the month. He'll get over it in a week.

15 Nov 2025 21:10:05
5-1 hawks
Bedard hat trick

15 Nov 2025 20:40:50
Stetcher is a desperation move, im starting to think treliving is the problem, i have not liked one thing he has done for the leafs, hes got to go..both him and berube will be gone in the next 10/15 games if they dont play at .700 hockey, both these too have changed a high flying team that scores on the rush to absolutely nothing...this team does not support eachother in any zone...i myself feel leafs are better off tanking, but they wont cause hockeys fixed, they want leafs back to a team that sits almost in last playoff spot...where they been in 50% of the time since ive been watching hockey...hockey is not fair for canadian teams to begin with...this sport isn't that good anymore...not even fun to watch.

15 Nov 2025 22:00:46
They're scoring more now than with Mitchy though.

15 Nov 2025 22:49:16
You do realize Berube was the coach and Treliving the GM last season where they won the division and went farther in the playoffs then ever. Mostly the same players thus year. Funny how now they are the problem and not the same players dramatically underperforming.