Leafs talk 3

14 Apr 2024 03:45:18
Also that 4th goal was awful but the other 4 samsonov gets 0 blame.

14 Apr 2024 03:43:53
So hear me out, they should've started Jones against Detroit. And he should start the playoffs. Neither of our top 2 are playing well, and they are who is being scouted right now by Florida staff.

They can get a book on Jones pretty easily but it isn't what they've been working on.

14 Apr 2024 04:22:19
Start Jones? I'm not sure about that one.

I'd give Woll the next two games and just pick who's been better.

Yes, Sammy had a pile of garbage in front of him, but sometimes you just need a save. That's the hug thing people seem to forget.

I cant think of the last goalie that won a cup, without stealing a game, making a key save he wasn't to blame for, that elevated play at the right time. If neither one can do that, then we'd better have the trap devils and Scotty Bowman if you want to win.

14 Apr 2024 14:29:49
I would still start Woll. Nothing has changed for me. Woll's game is much quieter and built more for playoff hockey. I think the players may be even more confident with him in net.

14 Apr 2024 00:48:21
Samsonov needs some days off here. Play in front of him isn't great, but he couldn't stop a beach ball lately.

Give Woll some reps going into the playoffs.

14 Apr 2024 02:05:22
I think we will need Woll. Samsonov is trying to shake demons right now. Shouldn't have played him tonight. imo.

14 Apr 2024 03:34:58
He redeemed himself somewhat. Made a couple of big saves to preserve the point. Good on him, but he definitely needs to be better from puck drop.
Brodie still concerns me though, I'm trending over to Clary's side. Don't know what he was thinking by rolling the puck softly into the corner, why not try to blast it out. He had a chance to do that IMO.

14 Apr 2024 06:05:01
@Tags I have really liked Brodie since he got here, but his decisions are seriously concerning me as well. He's still the best you can do for a top 6, but I'm not sure I like the idea of him either.

Yes, Sammy looked better later on, but that's a lost game next week.

14 Apr 2024 14:34:17
I thought Brodie would turn it around, but his head just doesn't seem in it. It's like he is going through the motions, but struggling to stay in the game in his head. Too many non-confident plays. I don't know if he is just done or he just needs the year over with and try and reset his mind and start fresh, but Clarky and others that said he shouldn't be in there are right. I wouldn't have him in my playoff lineup to start either.

13 Apr 2024 23:59:37
Also, am I the only one who is really tired of Nylander on the PK. He should be no where near the pk.

14 Apr 2024 00:11:00
Is anyone else tired of Knies taking stupid offensive zone penalties?
BTW how does Kampf miss that puck along the boards? He was right there.

14 Apr 2024 00:47:18
@Tags I'm getting tired of Knies taking them as well. They're just idiotic penalties.

@RLF I don't understand why Willy is anywhere near the PK either. He's poor defensively on the best of days, a liability on the worst days.

14 Apr 2024 00:49:35
Tags. Lol. Yes, Knies takes too many penalties, I have already said that on here. I was talking about the pk. Willy has no business being on the pk.

14 Apr 2024 01:03:15
I’m not a fan of the carelessness of Knies either. He needs to lift up the stick like Matthews and not hook and hold.

Agreed Tags. These penalties in the O-zone are stupid.

I’m not necessarily against Nylander getting some PK but there are certainly times when his effort is lacking. It’s these half-efforts that can drive me crazy.

14 Apr 2024 01:11:04
RLF we definitely need help on the PK and Willy definitely isn't the greatest defensively. All we have are Kampf, Marner and Dewar when he's in the line up. I guess Jarnkrok when he's back.
Maybe they need to give more reps to Holmberg, McMann and possibly Knies.

14 Apr 2024 01:36:50
@Tags McCann has a great 200ft game imo. I'd be running him out there as much as possible as well on the PK.

14 Apr 2024 02:04:07
Tags. I know you love Willy, my complaint was more about Keefe playing him on the penalty kill. He shouldn't be there. It's that simple imo.

Rsears. There should be no such thing as a lack of effort on the pk. That is why Willy should be no where near it unless your down by a goal late in the 3rd.

LL. Ding ding ding. McMann on the PK. He is one of the best defensive forwards on the Leafs. He identifies his man quickly and doesn't puck chase. Big body with an active stick. Just what you need on the pk.

14 Apr 2024 03:59:24
I get what you're saying RLF and I agree, Willy is not the most intense/ engaged player out there.
Agree on McMann and also think Holmberg is good on the PK.

13 Apr 2024 23:57:28
There was an exchange yesterday on Samsonov.

I didn’t join the conversation because I might have regretted what nasties I would write.

Honestly, not that the Leafs are defending well, but he’s looking pretty brutal in all facets of his game.

Woll ha been poor recently as well.

The question was also recently presented by LL I believe on the likely playoff opponent.

I had said Leafs in 6 if our goalie beats their goalie.

I want to believe this can happen but I’m not very confident.

13 Apr 2024 23:56:47
And there goes Samsonov's confidence. I really didn't think they should have put him back in tonight. Should have played Woll and gave him time to reset after Thursday's game. End of first and Woll should go in.

13 Apr 2024 21:46:22
So follow up to my Mr game 7 question.

Answers
Hyman
Tkachuk
Paul
Wilson
Pavelski
? Someone else with pavelski
Lehkonen

Follow up question does anyone think one of

Bertuzzi
Knies
Domi
Mcmann

Could be this type of player for Toronto. Does anyone see anyone else down the lineup that could throw the team on their back for a game 7 to essentially say we are winning this thing?

12 Apr 2024 21:03:08
With the signing of Lane Hudson the Canadiens will have 10 to 12 defenceman under contract pushing for Nhl jobs next year.
Some may say this is a position of strength but with the rumblings of the problem of cracking the lineup it could become a issue.
I would say that this is an opportunity to acquire good young defenceman at a discount.
Just wondering what others thought, personally I would target Kaiden Guhle or Justin Barron.
Thoughts?

12 Apr 2024 23:03:44
I don't think Guhle is available, but Barron might be. Hard to say, but they do need scoring and have far more defenceman than they need. Good target.

13 Apr 2024 01:16:03
Would a Robertson for Barron be fair, both RFAs at seasons end?

13 Apr 2024 02:07:26
@Jmaxx I have a really hard time evaluating Robertson's value personally. If I was another team, I wouldn't want him for more than a 3rd, but I'm really not sure how other teams view him.

13 Apr 2024 13:38:26
Yes, Habs would be a good target for a D. I had a discussion on here with someone else earlier in the season about their young D depth. I mentioned Struble at the time as a possible target who was still in the minors. Mailloux could be a good target as well. I'd do Robertson for Mailloux if the Habs would.

13 Apr 2024 18:32:55
Honestly there are so many quality dmen in this years draft trade Robertson for a pick and develop your own guy.

12 Apr 2024 19:12:36
Who would you guys take as modern day mr game 7? Can't be a super high end talent, but you want him on your team for a game 7.

12 Apr 2024 20:54:03
Zach Hyman. Not a superstar, but he always ups his game when needed.

12 Apr 2024 21:11:56
A lot won't like this but Matthew Tkachuk. After last year's playoffs how could you not, dudes a beast.
That being said I hope the Leafs destroy the Panthers.

12 Apr 2024 21:13:23
Sorry just read not a super high-end talent.

13 Apr 2024 13:26:04
Nick Paul, Tom Wilson or similar style of player. Big, physical with some skill.

13 Apr 2024 18:34:02
Tyler toffoli or joe pavelski are two that both resemble the player Williams was.

13 Apr 2024 21:43:11
I like the picks of Paul, pavelski and hyman. My pick is lehkonen.

12 Apr 2024 04:34:05
Leafs trade Robertson Liljegren

Wild trade Middleton


This is t my idea it's RLF

Talk about this lousy trade for a while.

Keefe likes Robertson and sad this is his second Gila to comeback a toe was offside

So how much are next 2 seasons on a Robertson and Liljegren new deals going to cost


Robertson. $2.0 million age 22
Liljegren $2.5 million Age 25 in a few weeks



Liljegren gets better season over season plus he is a right hand shot drafted 17 th overall . Middleton is 28 with 235 games under his belt and was drafted 210 th overall 2014

Does anyone do this trade Middleton for Liljegren and RLF throws Robertson in the deal. Does it matter Nick Robertson will put up at least 35 goals in NHL soon ? Apparently. Not



When was the last time leafs had this kind of scorer backing up the stars on leads teams gone by

Sittller McDonald had Tiger Williams and Errol Thompson the leafs had Pat Boutette who went to Pittsburgh and had a few near 80 point seasons


Sundin he had Clark and Gilmour and Domi who never was a scorer


You don't trade young 22 year old guys who can score it never ever should happen.

Leafs won't be this foolish


I my 62 years I don't remember a Cheak group that is coming together in Toronto let them grow

Knies
Qualiian
McMann
Robertson
Cowan
Holmberg
Minten I'm worried his scoring but still we see

These guys won't earn big money for years. It's very handy when you have Matthews Marner Nylander and Tavares eating cash


RLF

You're wrong on both Robertson and Liljegren you can't see progress in both. In your eyes your either a star or a dud no room to grow. Do you regret Hyman walking he wasn't scoring 53 with Leafs but he was more than Bertuzzi ever could be

12 Apr 2024 14:15:07
Now weathermac. I could go through your post and rebut everything you have said, but instead, I am going to tell a tale of cautionary measure.

This tale began in Leafland. There were once two very distinct, yet very different islands in Leafland.

One being Mackin Island. This was an unusual place. It is a small, isolated island where a bedraggled figure called the Weathermackin walks around with a hockey puck he named Rondelle and a dog named Max, whom for some reason had antlers tied to his head. He talks to Rondelle, the puck, like a close friend and cherishes the comradery with Rondelle. The climate is very unpredictable on Mackin Island. The weather changes rapidly. Thunder, lightning and rain clouds fills the skies, but would briefly, oh so briefly, be blown away and shed a little light on the island. Screams of "Domi sucks! " are often followed by "we must re-sign Domi! " These, among other contradictory screams can be heard over on the other Island, RLF Island. The weathermackin would climb to the top of a mole hill he calls Mount Mackin and glare over at RLF Island. He would grab poor Max while pacing across Mount Mackin and say to Max "Listen to them over there, happy and rationally discussing the Leafs. " "They laugh, they have their lounge chairs, their beautiful beaches with consistent weather, they clink their beer glasses together, they share insightful thoughts, they stick to their opinions and evaluations, HOW DARE THEM! " he mutters.
The weathermackin wants none of this. Although, he would actually have the odd visitor to Mackin Island. Now and then Rsears would pop by to pump up Robertson or waterbuffalo would discuss the greatness of Liljegren. But, most of the time the weathermackin lives in "Leaf related opinion" solitude. He screams out one contradiction after another while fixing his gaze on RLF Island. He plots how he could steal the celebration of "insightful thoughts", which is celebrated daily on RLF Island by all who come there to engage in reality. But sadly for the weathermackin, no matter how hard he tries, the weathermackin fails, one attempt after another.

Over on RLF Island. The weather is a consistent 26 degrees, the waters calm, the skies sunny. Many come to discuss the Leafs. LeafsLife, Tags, Randy, Goat, Clarky, Loxley (who is on vacation? ) among others often discuss their Leafs views. ParkGarden and MPH would drop by for a rant and a cold beer. They share laughs, they clank their beers glasses, they eat roast beast and chuckle about maybe one day the weathermackin himself would come over and carve the roast beast. They know this is farfetched, but maybe, just maybe, a well placed lightning strike would grow the weathermackin's hockey intellect three sizes one day. But alas, the contradictory screams persist in the distance with annoyance comparable to the sound of a butterfly's wings. The true sound of the scales of hockey opinions attempting to be balanced.

The moral of this story. If the weathermackin disagrees with you, you are most likely correct and ironically, he may even eventually agree with you at some point.

Disclaimer; RLF Island is fictional and by no means does RLF think he runs the Leafs Rumours site. This tale was for entertainment purposes only. Any and all similarities to actual characters or events is strictly coincidental:)

12 Apr 2024 14:47:25
Lol, hilarious RLF.
Mackin is like a fish out of water, flopping back and forth.

12 Apr 2024 20:10:52
That was a great read lmao. Mackin sounded line the Grinch who Stole Christmas.

12 Apr 2024 22:10:22
I agree, it was a good read.
Entertaining and fictional with some historical accuracy.

12 Apr 2024 02:57:08
Leafs trade Giordano

Norfolk fish 7 th round pick in the retirement draft


Giordano has 3 games left in NHL and I think you must start Woll Game 1

Another goal taken away from Robertson on a sight offside but he has to be in lineup game 1

The team only go as far as defence and goaltending takes them

Nylander has to play beside Tavares and McMann

Marner can play with Holmberg and Robertson

Marner just is more consistant and better player than Nylander. Marner can carry a line like Matthews can and Nylander needs Tavares.

But this was game 79 and half of the team didn't show up the fun starts in a week



Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Holmberg Marner
Knies Kampf Jarnknok


Reilly Benoit
McCabe Liljegren
Edmondson Lybushkin


Brodie and Giordano Reaves press box

12 Apr 2024 13:35:21
You start woll game one? He's been awful since coming back. Completely different goalie.