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01 Jul 2017 11:21:13
So I'm sure everyone's heard the Leafs are in on Duchene, Thornton and Franson. First, let's say something like this gets Duchene.
TOR: JVR, Bozak, 2018 1st, prospect
COL: Duchene, 2018 4th
First two lines look like an all star game.
Hymen - Matthews - Nylander
Duchene - Thornton - Marner
Komarov - Kadri - Kapanen
Martin - Gauthier - Brown
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Reilly - Franson
Dermott/ Rosen - Carrick
That's a deadly 1,2,3 to be up against. Leafs will be a tough team to beat.
1.) 01 Jul 2017 14:20:44
Until nylander, marner and matthews need extensions. At that point this trade will look brutal when one of those 3 need to go. Not to mention that the avs want a young defenseman in any trade. So I think your trade resembles your name.
2.) 01 Jul 2017 14:51:34
I'll take Matthews and Kadri as my 1C2C and keep Bozak as a good 3C option. He can easily be resigned at a reasonable rate or traded at the deadline if needed.
Need to be cognizant of the big three contracts coming on board in the next couple of years. The Goat may or may not be able to play next year. Better to get affordable 4C players and round up the lineup with a defender.
No way Leafs give up a first rounder in a deal like that.
3.) 01 Jul 2017 21:00:17
Duchene can be a sign and trade. He's making 6M into 2018/ 19 at which point the leafs rookies get their new contracts.
Duchene can get you a RHD and a draft pick when the defensive market looks a little better.
@Hurdemz cool chirp baud.
4.) 02 Jul 2017 03:19:32
You liked that eh? :)
30 Jun 2017 18:58:16
I like the idea of going for a veteran defensemen on a short 2yr term until Liljgren is NHL ready.
Surprised I haven't seen Mike Green come up yet.
Maybe either a straight up JVR for Green trade would work or;
TOR: JVR, Dermott
DET: Green, Anthanasiou
Green plays a physical style the leafs lack on the back end and I think he'd be a great fit short term.
He has a year left at 6M. Maybe resign him for 2 years after that?
Athanasiou would be a great young prospect to have on the LW to replace JVR. And Dermott adds youth to Detroit's defense.
1.) 30 Jun 2017 22:08:58
BRUTAL why are we doing Detroit a favour.
2.) 30 Jun 2017 22:18:22
jvr>green.
3.) 02 Jul 2017 22:09:32
I'm curious to see how Anthanasiou does in the next few years. He may be a diamond in the rough. Detroit seems to produce a lot of sleepers, that become pretty decent players.
17 Jun 2017 10:48:09
TOR: JVR, Bozak, Leipsic, 3rd Round Pick
COL: Landeskog, Barrie, 6th Round Pick
Highly unlikely, but Leafs are expected to make a "splash" according to some insiders.
How is the value for value if this trade?
1.) 17 Jun 2017 17:06:20
Good my boy. Good. I think we may need to add timashov or another prospect tho. Maybe sosh.
2.) 17 Jun 2017 18:31:15
That trade does nothing to help Colorado.
16 Jun 2017 17:49:09
TOR: JVR, Rychel, Sparks
DAL: 3rd Overall pick 2017, Niemi
TOR: Bozak, Leivo
FLO: Pysyk
*draft two of Heiskanen, Makar, Valimaki Foote, Liljegren, Hague
Leafs have developed their young forwards and gotten incredible success. Time to follow that path on the defensive end and they could be a cup contender for the next decade.
1.) 16 Jun 2017 19:43:46
We don't need Niemi. They have the cap space.
Honka instead.
2.) 16 Jun 2017 20:38:40
Niemi would be a cap dump and they now have 3 goalies making good cap. They need to get rid of one. Niemi could back us up for a year.
3.) 16 Jun 2017 22:31:54
TOR: JVR, Rychel, Sparks, -Niemi
DAL: 3rd Overall pick 2017
Doesn't look as good now does it?
4.) 16 Jun 2017 22:33:49
Lab, we need a backup goalie. Niemi would be a good option for a couple years. As for Honka that'd be great but he would cost more.
5.) 17 Jun 2017 13:07:35
Re-sign Mac.
or
Trade for Subban from Boston (unprotected) Get Collin Miller while your at it (quality cheap 3rd pair RHD) .
or
promote Sparks (if we don't lose him)
or
trade with another team for a backup
or
go to Europe for a backup
and the list goes on and on.
Niemi is a cap dump; plain and simple. The Stars have to pay for him to be dumped. He is of little value to us. Throw in a pick/ prospect.
08 Jun 2017 23:49:10
Sign UFA Stafford
Sign Boyle
Trade Bozak for picks/ prospects to keep the rebuilding process going
TOR: JVR (50%), Bracco, 2nd Rd Pick (59th)
VAN: Tanev, 2nd Rd pick (36th)
*Price for Tanev will be high. They will only consider moving him for a legit hockey trade. This may not even be enough. Although Manson may seem like the missing piece to the Leafs organization, he will no doubt be protected and ducks will look to move Vatanen instead.
Tanev has already proven to be a near perfect partner for Reilly as they both excelled together at the international level.
& with the right grinder on Matthews line he has potential to produce even more than this last season.
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Stafford - Matthews - Kapanen
Hymen - Kadri - Marner
Komarov - Nylander - Brown
Rychel - Boyle - Shoshnikov
Reilly - Tanev
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Rosen/ Dermott - Carrick.
1.) 09 Jun 2017 01:49:35
I think that's way too much! Eliminate Bracco and I think it would be a fair deal as Leafs are retaining salary.
2.) 09 Jun 2017 03:52:33
Tanev is not worth JVR alone, no way Lou also throws in Bracco too.
3.) 09 Jun 2017 16:05:50
You're right, throwing in Bracco is unnecessary. Just seems like that's what it'll take to pry Tanev from the Canucks. JVR retained and then swap 2nds would be fair I think.
And roctopus, JVR is absolutely worth Tanev alone. He has a year left at 4.2 then will need to be resigned for more. Tanev is locked in at 4.4M for the next 3 seasons, which is a very cheap price for a highly sought after RHD. Tanev isn't a point producer everyone knows that. But his defensive play will allow Reilly to play more offensively which is what he's good at.
4.) 09 Jun 2017 21:40:41
Rebuilding phase is over, this is now a building process. jus wanted to say that.
5.) 09 Jun 2017 23:35:56
Tanev seems injury prone. Not somebody i'd be comfortable aquiring. Petrovic is a similar played i'd rather have. Just my opinion.
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15 Jun 2017 22:21:39
TOR: Carrick, Rychel, 3rd Rd pick
FLO: Mark Pysyk
TOR: JVR, Bracco, (Conditional 2nd)
COL: Landeskog
Landeskog is the tough, scoring grinder that needs to play with Matthews. Isn't afraid to drop the gloves to protect either both young guys on the top line.
* Trade Bozak for picks at 2018 deadline when Nylander is ready to play Centre
* Sign Boyle
* Sign UFA Kris Russel
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Landeskog - Matthews - Nylander
Komarov - Kadri - Kapanen
Hymen - Bozak - Marner
Leipsic - Boyle - Brown
Reilly - Pysyk
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Rosen/ Dermott - Russel.
11 Jun 2017 21:09:52
TSN did an article on the expansion draft and according to their sources, the Wild will be protecting Dumba, Brodin, and Sutter.
This means they will be leaving Spurgeon exposed. if this is true it's insane. His possession numbers are elite. Somehow Niederreiter's exposed as well. What could the leafs offer to pick up the two?
Maybe;
TOR: Bracco, Nielsen, 1st Rd pick (two exempt prospects)
MIN: Spurgeon, Niederreiter
Pretty sure this isn't enough but i can't see them wanting JVR or Bozak considering this expansion draft is royally ****ing them.
08 Jun 2017 20:14:49
Leafs are young and will likely make the playoffs again next season especially if they address the issue at RHD.
Offensively however, I believe Matthews needs a better left wing on the top line.
Hymen does a great job along the boards and is a decent grinder but he's smaller than most playing that role.
Being a young team, Drew Stafford would be a great guy to pair up with Matthews and Nylander on the top line. He's big, has leadership, playoff experience and will win those battles on the boards. Leafs could sign him on a deal for 3 years.
04 Jun 2017 22:37:31
If JVR isn't resigned or ends up being traded for a needed RHD, the leafs will be pretty weak on the LW.
Hymen had a good rookie season but didn't quite put up good enough numbers considering he was paired with Matthews and Nylander.
Babcock has always liked a grinder on the top line. Hanzal is a UFA at the end of this season should the Wild chose not to sign him. He's a 6'6 grinder with a few years left at 30years old. He would add some much needed size to such a small young team. Would love to see a guy like that feed Matthews pucks next season.
1.) 06 Jun 2017 01:48:38
Just remember that a lot of work that Hyman did behind the net doesn't reflect in his points. He digs the puck out and chips or passes it back out to the Dman, who passes it to Willie Nye or Mathews in this case, who pass it to the other for the goal.
Hence, no recorded point for Hyman, but he did a lot of the important work to generate the play (fighting for the puck, drawing in defenders and shifting the defense, etc. We need to find a stat that fits points produced after a player digs the puck out to a player to another to the scorer. There must be some stat that reflects this. +/ - won't work. Is it recorded in some other stat. I doubt it.
It happened many times during the year, and was actually a problem for Marner who starts plays with a great pass to someone, but often doesn't get a point.
Goals Scored/ time on ice might give part of the picture, but it doesn't remove the players who did nothing.
But this is one stat I would like to see tracked directly. Maybe one of you stat's guys can shed some light on this.
As for Hanzal, he and Bozak produce about the same in points. But Hanzal is bigger, LH, and might just work out. He can also play on the 3rd or 4th line giving the Leafs the option to swap him and Hyman on and off that line during a game.
Depends on his cost, he's UFA.
01 Jul 2017 21:00:17
Duchene can be a sign and trade. He's making 6M into 2018/ 19 at which point the leafs rookies get their new contracts.
Duchene can get you a RHD and a draft pick when the defensive market looks a little better.
@Hurdemz cool chirp baud.
18 Jun 2017 16:09:37
Little unrealistic but I like dreaming anyways.
1) Manson isn't going anywhere. Ducks are keeping him and moving Vatanen or maybe Folwer.
2) Justin Williams is a RW which we have too much of. We need to be looking for LW help.
3) Bozak isn't a 4th line centre, he doesn't have that tough grinding ability, I would use Thornton on 4th Center and the powerplay.
4) Hjalmarsson is a first pairing type D man, doesn't belong on the bottom pair. And although the Blackhawks have cap issues I think the leafs would have to add a pick to that trade.
5) If the Leafs were to be throwing that kindness of money around on UFA's they wouldn't sign stone hands Martin on top of everyone you just mentioned.
So yeah those are my thoughts lol I think better things can happen this offseason.
18 Jun 2017 07:43:26
Couldn't agree more. Leafs will have to outbit other teams going for Manson and this seems like the best option without losing to much of the leafs successful roster from last season.
18 Jun 2017 01:31:49
Would hate to see Gardiner go but would love to see Landeskog on the Leafs. I think the avs would bite but who knows Sakic is dumb.
17 Jun 2017 01:52:05
I'd be pissed if this happened.
05 Jun 2017 00:49:08
I see where you're coming from and I agree. But I just don't see Rosen being able to adapt to the speed of the NHL and become a top 4 D man in his first year. He's third pairing at best for now.
As for the Panthers, they wouldn't be able to protect Gardiner either with Yandle, Demers and Ekblad being their 3 protected. So I don't think it makes sense for them unless they're addressing their needs on the offensive.
01 Jun 2017 22:50:35
We would then have a hole in our top 4 D on LHD. Doesn't make sense to move Gardiner he's had a great year. We need to trade with a team that needs young forwards bc the Leafs have so much of interest.