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17 Jun 2018 21:51:18
Saw this trade online and I liked the thought behind it.

Sign Derek Ryan to a 2 year deal

TOR: 25th overall, Jeremy Bracco, Josh Leivo, rights to Tyler Bozak

PHI: Wayne Simmonds, Radko Gudas

Line Ups:

Johnsson-Matthews-Hyman
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Simmonds-Nylander-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Ryan-Brown

Reilly-Gudas
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey.

MarquesMen

1.) 18 Jun 2018 01:15:39
Simmons would end up being a 1 year rental for a 1st round pick.
IMHO, Leafs should stay the course, keep their picks and continue to draft the best team in the NHL!


2.) 18 Jun 2018 01:26:12
Simmonds is a great player. He would look good in a Leaf uniform.

I think what you are offering here is pretty reasonable. But I don’t know if Simmonds is on the market. Fliers will be wanting to make playoffs again this year, and they can probably use Simmonds a lot more than anything that is going their way here.


 

 

11 Jun 2018 01:17:58
Hearing that the penguins are looking into buying out Carl Hagelin. If this is the case:

TOR: Josh Leivo, 2018 fourth
PIT: Carl Hagelin, 2018 second

Carl Hagelin doesn't put up good offensive numbers but that's not what we'd be bringing him in for. He's a VERY good defensive forward and he'd be a great upgrade as a depth forward but also on our PK.

I'd slot Johnsson on our third line LW position, and put Hagelin on our fourth line LW.

MarquesMen

1.) 11 Jun 2018 02:48:33
I don’t see any problems with this trade. Other than the $4M big ones we would have to pay our fourth line winger for one year, which we can afford. We dump Lievo and upgrade our pick. Gives us a better shot at landing a “diamond in the rough”.


2.) 11 Jun 2018 04:15:53
MarquesMen,

I would agree with your assessment of Hagelin bringing some defensive elements to a team. Advanced metrics illustrate his defensive strengths. His advance stats are also opposite to players such as Guentzel. Guentzel is also on the last year of his contract so it will be interesting to see if either of these players remain on the Pens roster after next year. I'm not saying that the Pens are looking to trade either, but their GM is open to making some changes which may necessitate the departures of either.

Hagelin however, would be a very pricey fourth line LW at 4 million. The Leafs do have a lot of cap room, but they will need it to strengthen their roster in multiple ways.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 09:23:15
I do believe it's a good even trade, we fill the komarov hole, at a more expensive price but maybe up the 3rd to a second for Pitts to retain a bit of salary might sweeten the pot.


4.) 11 Jun 2018 09:51:26
Leafs power play and penelky killers are loaded no match there. Penelty kill Johnson Kapanan brown.


5.) 11 Jun 2018 14:29:48
"Guentzel is also on the last year of his contract so it will be interesting to see if either of these players remain on the Pens roster after next year"

Another post showing Leafs fans being completely out of touch. Guentzel is a star in the making and the Pens would never part with him. He had 13 goals in the playoffs last year and 10 goals in 12! games this year.


6.) 11 Jun 2018 14:25:29
This discussion show how out of touch Leafs fans are about other teams. The proposed deal is absolutely absurd.

Hagelin is a very valuable part of the Penguins and they aren't looking to trade him, let alone buy him out. He was absolutely fantastic the second half of last year. His forecheck is among the most disruptive in hockey and he fits great with Malkin. There is more to hockey than goals. I doubt that there is a single Pens fan who would rather lose Hagelin that Sheary who scored 40+ 5x5 goals in the last two years.

Yeah, he is paid a bit too much, but the Pens can afford it. They are in great cap shape to sign their few RFA's. The only scenario where he gets dealt is if they make a big move to acquire an expensive player, and even then they would move Sheary and possibly Sheahan first.


7.) 11 Jun 2018 18:59:58
Crozier,

To clarify, my comments regarding Guentzel were simply speculative in that I am curious to see what the Pens organization decides for next season.

I am completely in agreement with you on Guentzel’s offensive contributions. He’s been a playoff beast and a welcomed player to any playoff hockey pool. That being said, he is approaching the end of his 4 million per year contract, and I am curious as to what his asking price will be.

Equally interesting are the Kessel rumours and speculation of him being possible trade bait. Some might argue that Kessel is just as important as the other two Penguins mentioned in this thread, with strong playoff performances.

We can also look at the past and see examples of player trades like Jordan Staal which was in part necessitated by economics. At the end of the day, most teams identify who their core players are and continue to make changes around them.

It’s going to be a fascinating summer for the Pens.


 

 

10 Jun 2018 02:54:26
TOR: 25th overall
DAL: Jason Spezza, 13th overall

TOR: 13th overall, Kapanen, Jason Spezza (50% retained), Garret Sparks

CAR: Jordan Staal, Brett Pesce

Sign James Neal: 1 year, 7M

Reasoning behind Spezza. leafs can afford to hold cap this year, they probably won't need all of it. Carolina gets rid of a lengthy contract but brings in a veteran centre for 3.5M. This I think but value to the trade itself

Why I want Jordan Staal: Some people say he's an older centre who's making too much money till he's 34. Our biggest need this offseason is defence. Staal would be our best defensive forward by a long shot, he's elite in his own end and this speaks volume. When we're up by a 1 goal game with a couple minutes left in the game, we literally don't have anyone to rely on to take that important faceoff but then stay on and finish the game off. His game style doesn't rely on speed, but instead it relies on hockey sense and play off the puck. None of his main qualities will affect his game with age. Kadri is also making very little as a second line centre so we can afford to pay our third line centre a little more. I believe he's a reliable second line centrenon any team.

Lines for next year:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Neal-Kadri-Marner
Marleau-Staal-Brown
Johnsson-Aaltonen/ Lindholm-Grundstrom

Rielly-Pesce
Dermott-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey.

MarquesMen

1.) 10 Jun 2018 14:31:03
This trade is awful for Dallas.


2.) 10 Jun 2018 19:06:39
I wouldn't call it awful for Dallas. Moving back in the first round 12 picks does not seem like a huge price to pay for being able to rid yourself of a guy who scored 18 points last year in over 70 games, and has a $7.5 mln cap hit next year.

Can't really argue that Spezza does not have negative value at that cap hit. If I'm Dallas and I want the cap space I'd pull the trigger on that deal. Outside of the first few picks the draft is a crapshoot; you're probably about as likely to hit or miss on a future star at 12th overall as you are 25th overall.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 02:27:05
Love the trade of the 25th for Spezza and the 13th. Leafs might have to sweeten the pot a bit to move up 12 spots in the 1st round, like adding their 2nd (52nd) but I would do it in a heartbeat.


 

 

31 May 2018 03:50:18
TOR: Kapanen, Sparks, 2018 first
CAR: Pesce.

MarquesMen

1.) 31 May 2018 09:42:32
Your giving up a lot of future in this trade

Sparks is leafs backup next year

mcbackup is 35 and sparks is 24

Kapanan is deadly right now on penalty kill plus huge upside

This draft is very deep even leafs stay at 25 they will get a good future player

Your giving up way too much.


2.) 31 May 2018 18:45:04
Don’t be so hard on MarquesMen here David. Pesce is a very good player. Big kid, plays over 20 minutes a night, plays a solid defensive game, blocks a lot of shots. Would like to see him hit more though. He has a decent +/ - on a poor Carolina team.

We have a surplus of goalies, so Sparks is expendable. Take out either Kapanen or the 1st, and I think this trade is very reasonable. I would prefer to keep Kapanen as he is already a roster player and the 1st is never a guarantee to work out. Sparks and 1st for Pesce is a good deal for both teams.


3.) 31 May 2018 19:38:18
Pesce is 23, locked up for another 6 years at 4M. That's huge. I wouldn't consider him a top pairing guy right not but he's got a lot of time to grow. By the time he's 26, he's going to be a legit right handed defencemen still playing at 4M a year. That's contract is already good but it's just going to get better with time. The leafs signed Big Mac for a reason, he played well last year so there's no reason to move him. Sparks has the most value right now and I don't think he'll ever be our number 1 goalie (in my opinion) . I don't think Sparks and a first is enough for Pesce, that's why I threw in Kapanen. Look what we traded for Andersen, goalie's don't have crazy value. Brown moves into our third line checking role behind Willy and Marner. Kapanen is a great player but there's no reason to worry about losing him, we don't really have space for him. He's at the top of the trading block in my books, just because his position is covered for years to come.


4.) 31 May 2018 23:26:38
Kapanen was a high draft pick and is working out very well on the Leafs. He’s easily going to be a top six forward. Mackin is correct in saying the package you are offering here is a lot for a second line defender.

Carolina is stacked on defense and will be more than willing to move Peace, as he is likely to fa down their
depth chart. I would hate to give up Kapanen (drafted 1st round) and another 1st for him. I would either offer them a prospect off the Marlies instead of Kapanen, or a reduced pick (2nd) instead of the 1st if they insisted on a roster player.


5.) 01 Jun 2018 20:30:48
Id suggest revamping to first 2nd picard brown and make them take martins contract for us for pesce
I think sparks is way to valuable I think a lot of people under value him on this site saying he got his shot. He got to play on the worst team in the NHL when he had his shot, by that sense picard doesn't deserve another chance either because colorado didn't play well with him. Sparks also had that team suspension for threatening that guy who was bullying a mentally challenged kid. Which set his career back a bit. I think sparks will be a stud. I enjoy watching him play more then Andersen to be honest. As a goalie Andersen frusturates me because he plays very lazy and makes lots of dumb mistakes. I think I may be the only Andersen hater on this site. He may make some big saves but he never comes to training camp prepared and is a choke artist in the playoffs. Very slow getting back to his posts and flops to easily on his power slides to say just a few.


6.) 02 Jun 2018 11:32:36
A 1st and Kapanen (who was a 1st) for Pesce who is a 2nd pairing defencemen seems like a huge overpayment then throwing in Sparks adds salt to the wound.


 

 

27 May 2018 12:34:01
TOR: Jake Gardiner, 25th overall in 2018
LA: Alec Martinez, 20th overall in 2018.

MarquesMen

1.) 27 May 2018 12:50:02
Leafs would need to add a Timashov or bracco. But any deal involving space cadet gardiner is a good one.


2.) 27 May 2018 14:54:37
Leafs pass.

Gardiner is the better player still. It’s not worth depleting our depth. The trade up 5 spaces at the draft isn’t enough incentive to pull the trigger on this deal.


3.) 27 May 2018 15:40:31
You're not only moving up 5 spots. you're locking up a defencemen for an extra 2 years at 4M AAV. And how is this depleting our depth, it's basically a one for one trade? .


4.) 27 May 2018 17:25:05
Yup agree with Marques.


5.) 27 May 2018 18:41:27
I'm actually inclined to agree with marques.


6.) 27 May 2018 22:02:26
Why on earth would LA give up three years of Martinez for one year of Gardiner? Unless it’s a sign and trade, which almost never happens.

Losing sour 2LHD and not having a replacement is losing depth. Even if we promote Dermott (who may not even be ready), we still don’t have anyone to bring up for 3LHD. You’re bringing in a RHD, which we can use, but all you are doing is creating a gap on the other side now.

I don’t even think Martinez is any better than Hainsey anyway. If you’re going to make a trade like this, you should be bringing in a real stud like Larsson or Manson or someone of that caliber.


7.) 27 May 2018 23:02:03
You saying that Martinez isn't better than hainsey just shows you don't have a clue on what you're talking about. Martinez is a LHD not a RHD. Borgman can come up and play third pair LHD if needed. He played quite a bit last season and didn't really disappoint. Like I said, LA is in win now mode which is why they could possibly make this trade. Gardiner brings offence to LA's lineup which is what they need. It would also give them cap relief at the end of the season.

By the way, did you not post something about trading Gardiner plus a bunch of prospects for Kevin Hayes? He's a good third line centre, what's the sense in that trade?


8.) 27 May 2018 23:26:07
Leafsgm
Um depth? Reilly Dermott Martinez on left
Zaitsev ozhiganov hainsey on right
Holl as a 7th d
Martinez is better defensively than gardiner which isn’t saying much. he has played almost all the games past three seasons put up almost 100 points.
Which is why leafs should add a Timashov or bracco like I suggested earlier.

I support Marques with his post
It’s ok to disagree
Stay cool.


9.) 28 May 2018 03:03:11
Alec Martinez: 9G, 25Pts, +3, 100Hits, 206Blks
Ron Hainsey: 4G, 23Pts, +12, 91Hits, 167Blks

Pretty evenly matched if you ask me. I stand by assessment that Martinez is no better than Hainsey.

You are correct Martinez is LHD. My bad.


10.) 28 May 2018 03:08:08
MarquesMen

Incidentally, you agreed that my trade proposal of Gardiner for Hayes was a good one btw. Lol.

It’s cool man. We aren’t going to agree on every proposal. If memory serves me right, you didn’t like my proposal of Gardiner for Zadorov.


11.) 28 May 2018 17:44:52
Are those seriously the only stats you look at when deciding what defencemen to bring in? Try getting into the more advanced stats before you start acting like you know everything. And I agreed with bringing in Hayes, the assessment was completely off. I posted about bringing in Hayes a long time ago.


12.) 29 May 2018 00:48:15
What stats do you look at. Please show me the “advanced stats” that you are referring to. Right now, the only thing I have to go on is your word that these so-called advanced stats indicate that Martinez is better. By all means, throw a few up there and show me exactly how much better Martinez is than Hainsey.


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2018 23:47:53
DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY O'REILLY IS A LIABILITY IN HIS OWN END?!?! Shows how much you know.

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14 Jun 2018 23:10:34
I'd personally try and stay away from Nylander and the 8th overall. I'd try making that deal without those main pieces. If Oliver Wahlstrom is available at that time, I'd think about this trade. I personally think Keith would be a good addition to this team.

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14 Jun 2018 23:01:13
What is up with the Calgary trade? In what world?

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13 Jun 2018 10:18:07
The oilers biggest need this offseason is a right handed defencemen. It would be sweet if we could trade for Larsson but there's 0% chance he gets traded. Unless someone goes way over the top and overlays for him. But at that point, why make the trade?

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12 Jun 2018 21:29:41
Expert? I don't think so.

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