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11 Sep 2017 21:31:03
Kerby Rychel, Rinat Valiev and Ben Smith

To Carolina for

Nicolas Roy and 6th Rd 2018 pick

I don't see anything out there available worth trading JVR for, their best chance to get a good return is at the trade deadline. Although by that time he will likely be more valuable in a playoff race rather then future assets.

Simply the Leafs have too many players capable of NHL roles, the Leafs will lose players if they don't move them.

Soshnikov and Kapanen are safe from waivers so likely won't be moved.

Leivo and Rychel on the other hand, I think one needs to go.

This trade puts Carolina at the max for contracts, but they gain Rychel who I think can play in their bottom 6 and Valiev who would likely get buried in the deep Canes D prospect pool but can fill a depth role and fill in for injuries and also seems to have some upside as well. Smith is simply a depth player, coaches seem to like him too.

Roy would be the most ideal solution to filling to void when Bozak leaves town, the only problem is that the Canes probably aren't willing to give him up too easily. Canes have a lot of prospects though, so it is possible they would trade one for some depth help in a year they look to improve.

Dbone06

1.) 12 Sep 2017 11:06:16
Dbone

Chill out we watch and wait.


2.) 12 Sep 2017 13:07:30
What if the leafs signed bozak to a 3-4 year deal that was front loaded.

Resign bozak in the off season. He will take a discount for one simple reason. He wants to win and toronto is that team that will be winning now and for a long time. He's a faceoff guy and will soon be on our 4th line maybe 2 years or 3 into his new contract. I can see 3.5-4.5 mill for 3-4 years so he can be here for a couple cups/ cup runs. Front end loaded contract (Its a discount because he makes the same money but the cap goes up. )
Thinking
4.5mill year 1
4.5mill year 2
3mill year 3
2mill year 4

Averages 3.5 a yr also depends on how he performs (ps this is just a template of best case scenario)

This off season we will probably lose/ get rid of
-Leo
-Moore
-Fehr

5.5mill + JVRs 4.5 free to spend on guy Like marner and nylander

Plus lupul is finally off the books.


3.) 12 Sep 2017 20:30:41
I didn't even touch the main roster, I don't know how this trade is so bad according to David. He's the expert on here though, clearly.

Ps David doesn't watch the Leafs even play.


4.) 13 Sep 2017 00:00:49
Not sure if Bozak signs for that little. He's a bona fide 4-4.5 mil AAV centre. As a free agent he gets that easily and with term. If Lou somehow manages to do it then it's a no brainer; he's a perfect 3C.


5.) 13 Sep 2017 10:43:04
@Dbone

I like the trade, as Roy is a large body capable of some offense, and good at faceoffs. The Leafs could have taken the chance on Roy, but they elected for Jesper Lindgren.

He's certainly a 4th center at minimum, but to play 3rd line C or better on this team, he will have work on his skating and overall speed, so he might take a year or 2, which is fine.

Rychel is ready for the NHL, but, just not on this team. Not with so much competition from faster, younger players next season (Bracco, Kapanen, Grundstrom, Korshkov, Brooks, Johnsson, Timashov, maybe Moore and others) . Yes, Kapanen can play LW (Finland) . Bracco's roving style of play means you can put him just about anywhere.

Rychel would help the average Canes offense immediately. The others are decent depth pieces at low prices for the cost concious Canes.

So; to trade a prospect like Rychel, who will only get displaced soon, in exchange for a prospect like Roy, who has all the attributes of a 2nd line center if he puts it together; is a good gamble for the Leafs to take. Especially since we are giving up only minor pieces in addition to Rychel.

So a good deal by Dbone.

And it moves 3 contracts for one which offers better flexibility for making trades later.


6.) 13 Sep 2017 12:34:05
Agree with Labs analysis, good trade Dbone. Could battle Moore for the 4C job this year with potential to move up the line-up if Bozak gets moved. Well done.


 

 

17 Aug 2017 23:01:14
No trades are going to happen but,

JvR, Carrick and 2018 1st
To Jets for
Trouba

A buddy told me about this one, read somewhere. Dunno the source, but it's not Ecklund.

Dbone06

1.) 18 Aug 2017 07:24:10
Like the scalpers say. "who's buying, who's selling. ".
Maybe this is a deadline deal but removing the 1st.


2.) 18 Aug 2017 09:04:51
No way leafs move first look what they got at 17th pick this year Liljegren next year draft stronger.


3.) 18 Aug 2017 13:38:23
Personally I don't think the Leafs need to uograde their D right now. I would much rather see the return for JvR at deadline and acquire picks. Then use those picks and the overstocked cupboards of prospects to upgrade if they feel the need.
But, with Dermott, Nielsen, Liljegren, Rasanen, Rosen, Borgman, even Greenway one could say with time in addition to Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev the Leafs already have their D.
Although with Liljgren he will need a stay at home partner, Rielly nor Gardiner can play with him. He will need a Hainsey type partner. He rushes a lot and although he does have the foot speed to get back, he will need a reliable smart experienced partner.


4.) 18 Aug 2017 16:02:44
Strongly agree with you Dbone JVR for picks might be the best option. If Toronto is to trade Bozak as well I like to see a pick coming back as well. The Leafs have seemed to address their defence through the draft for the future, moving forward imo the Leafs should continue to build through the draft maybe concentrating at center.


5.) 18 Aug 2017 18:26:10
I agree dbone as well the defence is perfect now in what is coming 2018-19 and let's keep adding draft picks keep the cubords full bozak jvr and komarov. Don't finish this season with leafs trade them all 4 picks.


6.) 18 Aug 2017 18:28:17
The liljegren accusation was huge that solved many headaches and he shoots right.


7.) 20 Aug 2017 15:23:38
I have proposed a few times int he past JVR for picks for that very reason, I will some picks/ prospect ideas again.


 

 

07 Aug 2017 20:14:53
Carolina obviously perfect trade partners for Leafs, as I posted earlier though; the Canes are stacked on LD so I doubt Faulk is moved especially at that cap hit. I do think there is an outside chance at Trevor vanRiemsdyk being traded though.

JvR, Leivo and 2019 4th
To Canes for
TvR, Roy and 2018 2nd (1st if Canes make playoffs)

TvR isn't the top pairing D Leafs are searching for but I think this trade improves the Leafs today and tomorrow. Not sure how high the Canes are on Roy but they are absolutely stacked in prospects and need help NOW if they want to make the push for playoffs. I think Roy is a stud and is a perfect replacement for Bozak when the time comes. Roy has been putting up crazy numbers in the Q for the last two seasons and is a UNIT, if the Leafs were to target a prospect it should be Roy, would be great with Marner someday. With his size and an impressive camp he could make Bozak expendable this season, he would be a Babcock favourite.

Pipe dreams but, for a 30 goal scorer asking price has to be a roster player, prospect and a pick. A third pair D, good prospect and a conditional pick contingent on team performance.

Or what do you think the asking price for JvR is?

Dbone06

1.) 08 Aug 2017 09:58:16
Oddly, the Leafs had the opportunity to pick Roy in 2015 at pick # 95, and took Jesper Lindgren. Odd, considering we were looking for big scoring centers as well as D. A bad pick by the Leafs staff.

His skating needs work although it is much better than the Goats at that stage. His speed is pretty good, he's quick on the puck with good hands, and always ready to pass (maybe a little too much) . Needs to use his size more and to be more aggressive. He may have 2nd line potential, but will likely end up as 3rd line.

I like the deal, except for TVR. The Canes traded for him and will likely not want to give him up. And he provides an additional reason for JVR to re-sign there.

That might make the deal more palatable to the Canes.


2.) 08 Aug 2017 14:05:14
A pick that will likely haunt them, I often look back at that missed opportunity.
Valid points, I never really thought of keeping the brother there would certainly sway JvR to stay with the Canes.


 

 

03 Aug 2017 20:50:29
A crazy blockbuster proposal to get two birds stoned at once

Toronto trades

JvR, Leivo, Valiev, Carrick and 2018 2nd (best pick)

To Blue Jackets for

David Savard and Lukas Sedlak

Toronto clears 2 roster spots, upgrades their D and get Rielly a legit partner. Gain some depth down the middle, and gives the Leafs so flexibility if they get an offer for Bozak.

This could be a god awful trade with value way off, jus trying to be creative.

Dbone06

1.) 04 Aug 2017 12:33:33
Leafs need a little more back like a second, but other than That it's a good trade d bone.


2.) 04 Aug 2017 21:01:04
Thanks dangles.


 

 

18 Jul 2017 02:53:44
Leafs trade

JvR, Leivo, Lindberg and Marchenko
To Devils for
2018 1st, 2019 2nd and Jacobs

Sign Pospisil the FA that attended camp

Leafs don't get that top 4 RHD but, a 1st rounder with lottery potential and Jacobs a gritty tough stay at home D suitable for bottom pairing someday.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Kapanen
Extras: Sosh, Fehr
Rielly-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey
______-Carrick

The blank is a wild card, I think Dermott or Rosen has a shot to fill that slot and Marincin becomes the spare.

If JvR stays in the line up it will force Komarov to the 4th line C spot, I don't think that's what the Leafs had envisioned with the Marleau signing.
I know everyone has the return for JvR being to help with the D, BUT the leafs have some pretty promising D in the pipe line

Dermott, Nielsen, Liljegren, Rasanen, Rosen, Borgman and add Jacobs from the previous trade.
Leafs take care of a lot in one move and get two high picks to work with while clearing a few contracts and a little cap room.
JvR will boost the lowest scoring team in the league and they can use Leivo imidiately in their bottom 6. Marchenko will likely challenge for a roster spot as well as Lindberg who is young enough to grow into his frame and show upside.

Fair trade, thoughts?

Dbone06

1.) 18 Jul 2017 12:47:52
Good trade. Pretty fair value, but don't think it happens. Even if JVR doesn't get you the #1 guys on D, I think the leafs will want something to help them win in this 2 year window.


2.) 18 Jul 2017 13:47:14
The Devils are not expected to be good this year. I doubt they trade their 1st at this point.


3.) 18 Jul 2017 14:55:22
Good deal. The Devils are currently short on NHL level players (10 forwards under contract currently, and their RFA's leave a little to be desired)

3 NHL'ers in JVR, Leivo, and, ahem, Marchenko would clearly help them.

I wonder if they would take Bozak and Rychel for McLeod.


4.) 18 Jul 2017 16:30:20
That would be cool.


5.) 18 Jul 2017 22:45:21
No dice. This trade proposal is beyond ridiculous. Horrible trade proposal.


6.) 19 Jul 2017 00:20:45
From the guy who thinks Sean Day is worth Bozak and Matta and Pouliot fit into the Leafs plans.


7.) 19 Jul 2017 11:50:32
Hey Dbone06. Matta and Pouliot are a helluva lot better than what the Leafs have beyond Reilly and Zaitsev. Gardiner is inconsistent offensively and on every other shift a liability defensively. The Devils are not going to give up a top 5 lottery prospect anyways that would justify trading JVR to them. Again, horrible trade proposal.


8.) 19 Jul 2017 12:59:15
No way you can be serious. I'll give it to you, olli maatta is going to be a great player, pouliot too. But to say they are better then Gardiner at this point and that he's a defensive liability every other shift and inconsistent on offense is crazy. This isn't 2015 bud. Gardiner was a plus 24 with 43 pts. That's a true top 4 dman on almost any team.


9.) 19 Jul 2017 13:37:53
NylanderMagic replies to his own posts when there's no interest.

16 Jul 2017 02:19:48
Tyler Bozak for Sean Day

NylanderMagic

1.) 16 Jul 2017 12:04:54
Excellent trade proposal. After bringing in Marleau, Leafs need to acquire cap space and a prospect D-Man with top 4-D potential.

NylanderMagic

Ow!


10.) 20 Jul 2017 01:43:30
Hahaha.


11.) 20 Jul 2017 16:34:33
Lab

LMFAO hold this W, I guess nylandermagic forgot to create another account to praise his posts 😂.


 

 

 

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14 Feb 2015 16:03:39
Kessel and Phaneuf will both be traded in the offseason, and if Toronto slides down and gets lucky enough to get McDavid or Eichel, I would say they don't trade Kessel. After the lottery I think a lot may happen.

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10 Feb 2015 17:18:10
The only way leafs are getting rid of Clarkson is by retaining half his salary, and he is going to have to ask to be moved, so we are looking at a 5th Rd pick with half his salary. Great signing Nonis.
He may not even be a lost cause, but playing on this team with the coaches he has played under while here just does not benefit slhim at all.

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09 Feb 2015 23:18:54
Leafs players and prices IMO:
Santorelli- 2nd Rd pick
Winnik- 3rd Rd pick
Franson- 2nd Rd pick and a decent prospect
Lupul- 3rd Rd pick and a decent prospect
Reimer- 3rd Rd pick
Bernier- 1st Rd pick and blue chip prospect
Kessel- Top 9F/top 5D roster player, Bluechip prospect, 1st Rd pick
Phaneuf- Mid-Late 1st Rd pick and a Bluechip prospect
Robidas- 4th and 5th Rd pick
Bozak- 1st Rd pick and good prospect
Gards- 2nd Rd pick
Kadri- Late 1st Rd/Early 2nd Rd pick
Holzer- 6th Rd pick

This is what I think the Leafs should be asking for. These are the players I see with a possibilty of being traded, deadline or offseason.
Core group- JVR, Holland, Komarov, Reilly. JVR is top line worthy, Holland has upside and plays a good brand, Komarov has heart, and Reilly is Reilly unreal. If the Leafs want to rebuild they have to go big or go home, especially with this deep draft, it could shorten the process by a couple years!

Dbone06

1.) I feel like Winnik can get a 2nd and Holzer more than a 6th, pretty good value other than that though.


2.) Thanks, I agree with Winnik; jus has to be the right team!


 

 

04 Feb 2015 01:44:13
Next 4 weeks will be interesting.
My prediction:
Franson traded to St. Louis for 2015 3rd Rd pick and Ty Rattie
OR
Franson and 2016 3rd Rd pick to Detroit for Larkin and 2015 5th Rd pick
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Santorelli to NYR for 2015 2nd Rd pick
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Winnik to whoever for 3rd Rd pick
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This will be it til offseason I think, don't want to lose these valuable pieces for nothing. Be nice to see some youth and picks coming back.

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19 Jan 2015 05:14:40
Does anyone remember what Buffalo got for Vanek? 2015 1st and 2nd Rd picks and Moulson. Toronto needs to make a trade similar to this one. Lupul to Florida for 2015 1st and Fleishman?

Dbone06

1.) That was an exceptionally bad trade by the Isles. Dale Tallon would never make a comparable one.


 

 

 

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23 Sep 2017 03:20:18
I think Komarov will play on the 4th line RW.

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18 Sep 2017 16:54:08
I think Qwerty is jus trying to drive some conversation in a pretty slow rumour time. no Leaf fan would ever trade Marner for real. Training camp will determine who the bottom pair is with Carrick, there's one spot and it has to be Marincin, Dermott or Rosen. Rosen has been generating some interest so I got to give the edge to him.

Dermott and Liljegren could be an outstanding pair in AHL and move up together next season, idiealy and then trade Gardiner.

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18 Sep 2017 16:46:32
Don't trade an proven NHL producer for an unproven prospect. That being said I like Jost a lot and would do this trade minus Bracco and Nielsen.

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17 Sep 2017 23:36:32
Leafs own a top 5 offence, I don't think trading for Duchene makes a lot of sense.

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17 Sep 2017 07:52:52
DavidMackin you haven't got a clue eh. Nylander isn't playing centre this year and he may not even next year.

I think when and if Nylander moves to centre is when Bracco proves he's ready, because he will like be given a chance to play with Matthews. Even that scenario seems distant at this point though, Bracco would need to really impress this your with the Marlies.

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They're rebuilding. And they will be trading plenty come offseason

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You really think Florida would give up that much though, the price you said. 2 prospects and good ones, a roster player, 2016 1st and 2015 2nd. That's a lot but if they could manage to obtain that package, good on them!

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I'd be more upset if one of their assets gets hurt and cannot be traded

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Neither Nonis or Shanny has picked up a phone since they got to Toronto. We have the worse front office in the NHL and we will be basement dwellers for the next 5 years at least. Every team in the division is trending up. Boston will stay strong, Habs are young and rising, Detroit will never be a weak team, Tampa is getting better every year, Buffalo and Florida are both young and improving.

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Thanks, I agree with Winnik; jus has to be the right team!

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