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19 Nov 2017 06:01:17
Jvr and 2019 3rd (only if jvr doesn’t resign)
To Nashville for
Jarnkrok, Allard, 2019 2nd and 2018 3rd

Bozak, Carrick and Sosh
To Columbus for
Savard


Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Marleau-Jarnkrok-Marner
Martin-Moore-Leivo

Rielly-Hainsey
Gards-Savard
Borgs-Zaitsev

Although seeing Marner with Matthews tonight looked pretty good.

Dbone06

1.) 19 Nov 2017 14:41:19
JVR a 30 goal scorer for a 4th line center and who is fighting for the position and a prospect defenseman -Allard. plus picks.

Try again. Keep Sosh and give another Leaf prospect because Komorov will be toast by year end,

Bozak+ Carrick+ Rychel for Savard

Trade Moore + 3rd round for Jarnkrok- there is a 5 year contract. Allows Aaltonen or Gaultier to step up to the 4th line with

Resign JVR for 5 years at 5.25 MM to 5.5 MM.

Allows the Leafs Defense to Mature with 4 solid defensemen.

Trade Gardiner for a top 4 defenseman. Gardiner+ Marincin for Barrie.

Reilly Savard
Hainsey Barrie
Borgman Zaitsev.


2.) 19 Nov 2017 15:27:46
You try again Heatdreamer, your trades are all trash and you have a hundred different ideas. Jarnkrok is an excellent cheap replacement for when Bozak is gone and if you think Sosh is staying with the Leafs playing every 5th game he’s gone, so move him. You way over value leafs, that’s great but you’re wrong bro.

Moore and a 3rd doesn’t get you Jarnkrok and Gards with Marincin doesn’t even come close to Barrie.

Try again.


3.) 19 Nov 2017 15:55:55
you know sometimes you are correct.

Moore + Leivo for Jarnkrok

Than trade Gardiner + 2nd + Soshnikov for a Barrie.


 

 

15 Nov 2017 19:02:17
Soshnikov
To Arizona for
Adam Clendening

Leafs lose nothing (that they planned on using) and gain a D that might be able to help. D depth never hurt anyone.

Dunno why everyone on here thinks Toronto needs a RHD to play with Rielly. in two years yea, right now Hainsey is being the best out of Rielly and that pair should remain as is.

The real issue is the bottom pairing, Borgman can improve to a steady 5/ 6 D, Carrick is good but something needs to change and some completion on his side would be good. Not thrilled with the Gardiner and Zaitsev pairing either, both guys don’t like to engage in Thebes physical game if they can help it.

If Clendening were to win a spot over Carrick, include Carrick in a trade when moving Leo, Bozak or JVR. Personally would like to see them all traded because the Leafs have guys waiting (Johnson, Grundstrom, Aaltonen, Leivo, Kapanen) there’s guys ready right now.
Make trades with Western top dogs for some more youth pieces and picks. If the Leafs lose those players for nothing it’ll be tragic, the goal is the CUP and those three players will not determine whether they win a cup or not.

Leo
To Njd for
Jacobs and Speers

Bozak
To Jets for
Harkins and a 2nd

JVR (retain 50%), Carrick and Sharks 2nd
To Wild for
Dumba

Jvr spends his summers in minny and trains with some of the players, he would sign a contract tomorrow to extend there.

Quick trades jus for examples

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Kapanen-Marleau-Marner
Moore-Gauthier-Martin

Rielly-Hainsey
Gards-Dumba
Borgs-Zaitsev

Really doesn’t look too bad.

Dbone06

1.) 15 Nov 2017 22:11:07
Sign JVR for a 5 or 6 year extension at $5.5 MM a year.

Leafs can afford him and than trade for Defenseman with Bozak and three prospects for a solid 4th Defenseman in the $3.5- 4.5 MM contract.

Than trade Gardiner + 1st or 2nd pick for for a top quality young defenseman at the level of Roman Josi that has a $4 -5MM four or five year contract.


2.) 16 Nov 2017 00:58:44
Dbone. You package bozak Leivo soshnikov to get something good the canes need to move defencemen making coin.


3.) 18 Nov 2017 10:50:53
Clendering is disappointing, but maybe still intriguing.

He's split time between the Yotes and the Roadrunners this season. I imagine that has more to do with Hjalmarsson and Demers.

He had a couple of pretty decent AHL seasons with the Ice Hogs. Last year with the Rangers was short, but pretty decent if you pro-rate the games over 82.

It doesn't seem that Sosh will stay with the Leafs for long. So worth a shot.

I like the NJ deal.

I like the JVR deal, but I think you can package up Bozak with others to get a return of; a late 1st/ top prospect, decent RHD prospect, and a good project; and I think that team is Anaheim.

I also think that Gardiner will be very tradeable this year with another year at 4M remaining. Trade him now at his peak apparent value. We already have lots of depth for the LHS. He should net a 1st and a good prospect.

I feel it's important to get 1st's in return for vets being moved, and those can be for later, like 2019, and 2020 to spread the talent incoming over the next few years.

We want the Leafs to challenge for a decade not the next two years, and that will require many changes in personnel to meet cap restrictions.


 

 

10 Nov 2017 02:21:53
Leafs trade

Jvr (50%), Carrick and Soshnikov

To Wild for

Foligno, Belpedio, Wilds 2019 2nd rd pick, 3rd rd pick (VGK)

Bozak, Leivo and Wilds 2019 2nd rd pick
To Ducks for
Vatanen

Komarov, Rychel, Korshkov, and 2nd rd pick
To Coyotes for
Goligoski

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Kapanen-Aaltonen-Marner
Martin-Moore-Foligno

Rielly-Hainsey
Goligoski-Vatanen
Gardiner-Zaitsev

Freddy
Pickard

All three UFAs are moved for some assets that can help now, mostly on the defensive side of the ice. An area the Leafs desperately need help. Drop some prospects but the Leafs have many, they’ll survive. I’m sure Bracco or Nielsen will have to be involved somewhere so it’s not jus spare parts and rentals but, Jvr would sign in Minny, Ducks need help at C but Vatanen warrants more than Bozak, and I dunno Arizona sucks so prospects with a character player for Goligoski.

Dbone06

1.) 10 Nov 2017 05:40:36
The goligoski trade is brutal; Borgman will continue to improve/ he doesn't speak the language all that well and it's his first season in the nhl/ learning a new system for a very animated coach. the leafs are not in desperation mode, they have plenty of time to build a contender. that return for jvr doesn't really make sense to me foligno isn't the player I'd target especially if you have him player the right side, aaltonen isn't a third line centre in the nhl, and korshkov has a bright future and is one of the leafs only wingers with size and speed other than marchment who hasn't proven anything at the pro level yet. Bozak nets you matta, leivo nets you a second and a good prospect+.


2.) 10 Nov 2017 12:43:27
Bozak doesn’t net Matta and Leivo doesn’t net a 2nd and a prospect. But fair points on the other two, I like Borgs but a year in the AHL wouldn’t hurt him, he has games where he’s the best D and games where he looks like a fish out of water. My JVR proposal was mostly the young D and two 2nd rd picks. Foligno was jus so the cap evens out. Belpedio is a good RHD playing in NCAA and if Minnesota doesn’t sign him he’s going to be talked about quite a bit for the upcoming free agency. He’s 6’ and 200 lbs and has an offensive side, although his defensive side needs work, still a nice prospect to have.


3.) 10 Nov 2017 18:40:45
Starlord

A bench warmer who hasn't played a full nhl season is not worth a 2nd and a prospect.


4.) 10 Nov 2017 19:15:16
That what Toronto was asking for, we will see what happens leading up until Christmas.


5.) 10 Nov 2017 19:51:24
He is an everyday nhl player on pretty much every other nhl team, if he is given the chance to gets some serious game time you'll want to keep him (leivo) I'd say bracco for belpido plus a 2018 3rd given that he is an NCAA player and can choose where he wants to sign even after the deal, would work better.

Jvr at 50 ( leafs resign JVR in offseason) and carrick for vatanen

Bracco to wild
Belpido 2018 3rd

Bozak to Edmonton @ 50 rychel, soshnikov, 20183rd wild

Strome, jones (Caleb), berglund.


6.) 11 Nov 2017 03:16:03
You say that he is an nhler on every other team, yet he plays for the leafs and has his whole career thus far. So how is it justified that he’s a regular on any other team without playing on another team? Also, Toronto asks for a second to get a decent return, knowingly not getting a second. Did the Avs get what they asked for in the Duchene deal, a first rounder, roster d and an A+ prospect? No, they didn’t but they still got a hell of package. Yes you can make an argument for Girard but please don’t.

Bottom line, teams aren’t giving a 2nd rounder for a guy who is sitting in a press box most nights. He’s talented and deserves to play, no ones arguing that. But no team is giving up a 2nd rd pick for Leivo.


 

 

30 Oct 2017 20:56:39
I think the Leafs are getting to a point where they really need help defensively, as far as D cores core they’re bottom 10 and team D they’re bottom 10 there too.
We all seen Marner coast on the back check against Philly didn’t we, there’s a reason he’s on the 4th. He’s not the only one though.

JVR, Sosh and Rosen
To Ducks for
Manson

Call up Dermott, send down Borgs

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Komarov-Moore-Martin

Rielly-Hainsey
Gards-Zaitsev
Dermott-Manson

The third pair seems to be under the most pressure, struggling to move the puck out of the zone every time they’re on the ice, whether it’s Polak, Borgs or Carrick. Needs to be changed.
I know Polak is a Babcock favourite but he isn’t helping the team.

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22 Oct 2017 14:47:33
Since Marner has been relegated to the 4th for a brief time, I think it’s very noticeable now, how lazy of a defender JVR is.

JVR
To Tampa for
Sustr, Katchouk and 2018 3rd Rd pick

Sustr is expendable in Tampa with Girardi there and the emergence of Dotchin.

That may be a little much to ask in return but I don’t think is that far off.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Moore-Komarov

Rielly-Hainsey
Gards-Zaitsev
Carrick-Sustr

That’s a much nicer line up with the added stability on D, Leivo being in the lineup is a good thing and if he didn’t fit on the third line than as many of you love that, Komarov Kadri Brown shut down line can be reunited.

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14 Feb 2015 16:03:39
Kessel and Phaneuf will both be traded in the offseason, and if Toronto slides down and gets lucky enough to get McDavid or Eichel, I would say they don't trade Kessel. After the lottery I think a lot may happen.

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10 Feb 2015 17:18:10
The only way leafs are getting rid of Clarkson is by retaining half his salary, and he is going to have to ask to be moved, so we are looking at a 5th Rd pick with half his salary. Great signing Nonis.
He may not even be a lost cause, but playing on this team with the coaches he has played under while here just does not benefit slhim at all.

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09 Feb 2015 23:18:54
Leafs players and prices IMO:
Santorelli- 2nd Rd pick
Winnik- 3rd Rd pick
Franson- 2nd Rd pick and a decent prospect
Lupul- 3rd Rd pick and a decent prospect
Reimer- 3rd Rd pick
Bernier- 1st Rd pick and blue chip prospect
Kessel- Top 9F/top 5D roster player, Bluechip prospect, 1st Rd pick
Phaneuf- Mid-Late 1st Rd pick and a Bluechip prospect
Robidas- 4th and 5th Rd pick
Bozak- 1st Rd pick and good prospect
Gards- 2nd Rd pick
Kadri- Late 1st Rd/Early 2nd Rd pick
Holzer- 6th Rd pick

This is what I think the Leafs should be asking for. These are the players I see with a possibilty of being traded, deadline or offseason.
Core group- JVR, Holland, Komarov, Reilly. JVR is top line worthy, Holland has upside and plays a good brand, Komarov has heart, and Reilly is Reilly unreal. If the Leafs want to rebuild they have to go big or go home, especially with this deep draft, it could shorten the process by a couple years!

Dbone06

1.) I feel like Winnik can get a 2nd and Holzer more than a 6th, pretty good value other than that though.


2.) Thanks, I agree with Winnik; jus has to be the right team!


 

 

04 Feb 2015 01:44:13
Next 4 weeks will be interesting.
My prediction:
Franson traded to St. Louis for 2015 3rd Rd pick and Ty Rattie
OR
Franson and 2016 3rd Rd pick to Detroit for Larkin and 2015 5th Rd pick
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Santorelli to NYR for 2015 2nd Rd pick
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Winnik to whoever for 3rd Rd pick
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This will be it til offseason I think, don't want to lose these valuable pieces for nothing. Be nice to see some youth and picks coming back.

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19 Jan 2015 05:14:40
Does anyone remember what Buffalo got for Vanek? 2015 1st and 2nd Rd picks and Moulson. Toronto needs to make a trade similar to this one. Lupul to Florida for 2015 1st and Fleishman?

Dbone06

1.) That was an exceptionally bad trade by the Isles. Dale Tallon would never make a comparable one.


 

 

 

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19 Nov 2017 15:27:46
You try again Heatdreamer, your trades are all trash and you have a hundred different ideas. Jarnkrok is an excellent cheap replacement for when Bozak is gone and if you think Sosh is staying with the Leafs playing every 5th game he’s gone, so move him. You way over value leafs, that’s great but you’re wrong bro.

Moore and a 3rd doesn’t get you Jarnkrok and Gards with Marincin doesn’t even come close to Barrie.

Try again.

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19 Nov 2017 05:44:38
Hahahaha. this is the greatest post.

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19 Nov 2017 05:43:03
No all day long. But to say Sprong is an average prospect isn’t accurate, he’s got too 6 potential and 30 goal potential. If that’s average, what’s good? In 14 games in his first season in the AHL he’s got 9 goals and 5 assists, not a bad start. I’m a Leafs fan but there’s a lot on here about Bracco being elite, if Bracco is elite, Sprong is superstar. Re-evaluation needed here, Leafs fans drop the biased perspective.
Again though, NO all day everyday for Marner. He’s staying put.

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17 Nov 2017 15:13:00
This trade would put Tampa like 8.5 million over the cap, and a conditional pick for a result in 2019 for players that in all likelihood wouldn’t even be with that club that season. Maybe a conditional pick on re signing JvR or Bozak, but the money is still pretty far off.
Jus by money
4.25m, 4.2m, 1.1m and 800k
For
800k, 900k and atm 0k

Little lop sided.

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17 Nov 2017 15:13:00
This trade would put Tampa like 8.5 million over the cap, and a conditional pick for a result in 2019 for players that in all likelihood wouldn’t even be with that club that season. Maybe a conditional pick on re signing JvR or Bozak, but the money is still pretty far off.
Jus by money
4.25m, 4.2m, 1.1m and 800k
For
800k, 900k and atm 0k

Little lop sided.

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They're rebuilding. And they will be trading plenty come offseason

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You really think Florida would give up that much though, the price you said. 2 prospects and good ones, a roster player, 2016 1st and 2015 2nd. That's a lot but if they could manage to obtain that package, good on them!

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I'd be more upset if one of their assets gets hurt and cannot be traded

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Neither Nonis or Shanny has picked up a phone since they got to Toronto. We have the worse front office in the NHL and we will be basement dwellers for the next 5 years at least. Every team in the division is trending up. Boston will stay strong, Habs are young and rising, Detroit will never be a weak team, Tampa is getting better every year, Buffalo and Florida are both young and improving.

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Thanks, I agree with Winnik; jus has to be the right team!

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