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25 Mar 2020 17:46:36
Tor Johnson
Phi ghost

He been on the trade block for awhile and can play right side so this has to be the best offer they have had

Tor Nylander
Min Dumba 1st 2nd

They wanted a centre right? There it is. My irrational love of Nylander aside this makes sense. Nylander can play 1-2 C for them for an extended period we compete now.

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1.) 25 Mar 2020 21:46:21
I can't see Minny doing that trade straight up but to expect a 1st and 2nd makes this trade a definite no go.


2.) 25 Mar 2020 22:36:01
Both these guys are on a major low right now. I don't know what happened to Ghost. Since his miracle year two years ago he has been on a complete downslope. The price is right though, and I would take a chance on him if all it means is giving up Johnsson. Philly is looking to compete sooner rather than later, and as such, might want the extra forward depth and secondary scoring Johnsson brings. God knows they have enough defense en, especially RHD, that they can trade one away.

Nylander for Dumba is a no in my opinion. Dumba's value is at record lows. He didn't bounce back from that brutal pec injury last year, and his game has suffered as a result. As a result, his stock has fallen significantly. I would either wait until we see how he does next year, or make a lower offer (Kapanen for Dumba straight up maybe) . That makes the risk/ reward ratio a lot more palatable. Right now it's way too much risk counting on Dumba to bounce back. Minnesota was asking for a centre, so we can give them Kerfoot and maybe a small add. I definitely wouldn't give them Nylander though. Not after his team mvp performance this year.


3.) 26 Mar 2020 00:39:03
Thought call on the wait and see LeafsGm. Was thinking the same thing myself but the better he does the more the price goes up. That's the concerning part for me.

@IslandJet I'm assuming you say they wouldn't take Nylander because they had offers of franchise centres in great contracts they turned down.? Nope. They clearly did not get offered even close what they expected on either Brodin or Dumba. Same as Ghost. They would both be on new teams if they were even offered something resembling fair market value.

Nylander is for cap reasons. As much as it pains me I believe of all cap casualties it will be Nylander. It should be Marner (in my opinion) but Nylander is seen as the most expendable of the big 4 right now in Dubas mind (again in my opinion) .

Ceci and Barrie come off the books. Engvall, Mikheyev, Dermott and Muzzin all get raises. Unless the plan is to tread water in the off season and hope it all clicks next year something needs to be done.

I read a couple articles saying cap may go up, some say down, and some say it stays flat so I have no idea about cap room though. Best guess is it stays flat.


4.) 26 Mar 2020 12:46:18
That whole "Nylander will not be traded on my watch" might come back to haunt Dubas. Though I did notice that he didn't make the same promise to Matthews and Marner. As far as getting what you pay for, Nylander gives more bang for the buck than almost every leaf except maybe Reilly and Hyman. If we want to save big on the cap, Marner is the guy to go. By all accounts he is the most overpaid.


5.) 26 Mar 2020 13:30:53
I agree he is the most overpaid wholeheartedly I'm just not sure if Dubas sees it the same way. At this point I'm also not sure if you get the same value for Marner you used too. If he was traded before he signed that contract I believe his value would have been far higher.


6.) 26 Mar 2020 18:56:30
He's a damn good player. And probably already one of the top 10 in the league for his position. But compared to his peers, Marner really took home big. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth, especially considering that when you compare Nylander and Marner's stats, Nylander had almost identical stats as Marner up to that point. So one year later and Marner is worth $4M per season than Nylander? It kinda seems unfair to Nylander now does t it? Nylander is getting in line with his peers, while Marner is way ahead of all them. I think Nylander holding out really shook Dubas up and he felt he had to get Marner signed. Maybe he felt he couldn't risk Marner holding out for some reason?

If Marner had held out, he might have only played a couple months before the league got shut down. Then he would have lost a whole season basically.


7.) 26 Mar 2020 20:56:52
Hindsight 20/ 20. Looking back on it now even telling Marner to sit the season out would have meant nothing.


8.) 28 Mar 2020 19:45:49
All of this Marner or Nylander should go is taxing. So I am about to post some massive trades that will not happen but to me would definitely improve our D corps but weaken the offense…. I am going to trade both Nylander and Marner…. they are both similar skilled players. difference is Nylander signed the now looking team friendly contract and bounced back this year and Marner was signed to a massive deal after a good season and had a less than stellar one this year. I say they both go!


 

 

20 Feb 2020 18:28:25
Kapanen for big Buff

Easy deal and have no issue with cap because of all the ltir.

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1.) 20 Feb 2020 18:53:43
I'm on board.


2.) 20 Feb 2020 19:41:53
B surprised if he plays this season. Won’t he become a UFA with termination of his contract? Byf af 75 percent would still b good.


3.) 20 Feb 2020 19:51:43
I’d like to see him but I think playing for an organization like Toronto would be the last thing he would want.


4.) 20 Feb 2020 20:08:41
He's rental plus a year I believe.


5.) 20 Feb 2020 20:48:25
The only way I'd like to see him is if Winnipeg buys him out and the Leafs can sign him. His cap number for next season is large.


6.) 20 Feb 2020 21:39:57
I'm not saying it's without risk. It has a large amount but big Buff has been (in my opinion) of the best defenceman in the world since he entered the league. He plays a game that others just don't and having him on our blue line would be a dream of mine.


7.) 21 Feb 2020 02:57:12
We could always move him back to forward again too.

I don’t think anyone will trade for Buff. His contract will be terminated by Winnipeg and he can be signed outright at much lower cost.


8.) 21 Feb 2020 03:28:30
Make the trade. 16 is on board. That’s good enough for me.


 

 

29 Jan 2020 04:20:07
Leafs
Kerfoot, Kapanen, Bracco

Habs
Petry, Primeau

Habs get a second in a very deep draft along with a top 6 winger-middle 6 winger and a good young centre. Bracco is thrown in as I don't believe they would want to part with Primeau.

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1.) 29 Jan 2020 13:57:45
There are guys on the Habs I would take, but not these. Try Domi, Galagher or Webber. In fact, Webber is exactly what we need, just won't happen between these 2 teams.


2.) 29 Jan 2020 19:02:28
I would not take Weber and his contract. That's a boat anchor.


 

 

28 Jan 2020 04:40:16
Leafs can't play defence and Nashville can't score so I'm the spirit of them having just played let's try something different lol.

Leafs

Marner, Dernott, Johnson

Press

Josi

Press get Dermott and Johnson I'm return as Marner is signed for 6 years Josi has 9 I believe. Josi also makes less. With Nylander and Kapanen I could see moving Marner if the deal is right. Mikheyev replaces Johnson going forward and Sandin slots in for Dermott. Going forward (as much as this hurts me to say) if the season goes south you trade Reilly for a monster return. If we make the playoffs this year you can still lose Reilly in a few years to free agency and it won't be a huge hit.

I believe Josi has a full NMC so it couldn't happen anyway was just trying to find something original.

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1.) 28 Jan 2020 09:50:07
You would have to really love Josi in order to do that. He’s having a good year. But not not good of a year. He’s more of the same. A roaming forward more than a defenseman. I’d rather keep Reilly over the long run. He’s a lot younger.


2.) 28 Jan 2020 13:38:36
Agreed with LeafsGm Josi is a good player but we have that player now in Reilly for a lot cheaper.


3.) 28 Jan 2020 19:51:43
Reilly is a lot cheaper for 2.5 years. After that his price jumps to 10+ where Josi is signed for 9 years.


4.) 29 Jan 2020 01:43:00
Josi is also 30 years old. By the time that contract is over Josi will be long washed up. Just like so many before him. Keith and Seabrook are the obvious examples. There are many many more, and you know that as well. Lol.


5.) 29 Jan 2020 01:51:24
keep it real.


 

 

25 Jan 2020 19:59:18
Tor Kapanen

Phi Ghost 2nd

Ghost has less term at more money. No way he is worth what Kapanen is so they add the pick. A 2nd may be to high but best I could come up with.

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1.) 25 Jan 2020 21:27:22
I’m going to play devils advocate here. Basically, I think that if Dubas was willing to part with Kapanen for Ghost+ it already would have happened. I think the value is here, especially with the 2nd thrown in, but my guess is that for whatever reason Dubas isn’t willing to move Kapanen for a top 4 defenseman right now or it would have been done long ago (Faulk for example) . Whether he’s holding out to get a better deal, or just wants to see what we have exactly in Sandin and Liljegren, or he feels like we need Kapanen for depth, it doesn’t look like Dubas has been willing to make a deal like this yet. That might change with all the injuries, and I hope it does, because carrying Kapanen as a 3RW when he could have brought us an upgrade in defense long ago is going to look like another huge mistake by Dubas if Leafs don’t make the playoffs.

I like this deal. The value is there, and Gostisbehere has the potential still to be a very good 2RW. Better than Ceci at minimum. I don’t know if it is good he is signed past next year or not though. Now that Holl has been extended, it makes for a difficult choice for who we would protect for the expansion draft.


2.) 25 Jan 2020 23:52:26
Entire reason why I suggested it is the term. Rumour has it Dubas doesn't want a rental. Who better than ghost for him to go after? Far as I can tell the way Dubas thinks teams should be built it's either ghost or Dumba. Faulk would have fit too but that isn't happening now.

I more think it hasn't been done because philly wants a straight up one for one. They have been trying to move the ghost for awhile to no avail so clearly they want more than the market is offering. Dubas would want Kappy for ghost + pick/ prospect philly wants straight up and the convo ends there.


 

 

 

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04 Apr 2020 20:44:11
Closing the pot shops. LHD is in full panic now lol.

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04 Apr 2020 20:43:11
You saw Bob this year right? He makes 10/ yr very long term and looked like an emergency backup. If he doesn't improve they will be paying someone 3 1sts and 5 prospects to take that contract.

Freddy is a UFA, Marner is on a bad contract and Reilly is rental+. Teams don't give up long term assets and A prospects for that. Especially not guys like ekblad. If a trade came down tomorrow ekblad for Reilly I wouldn't question Dubas. Reilly may not be resigned for cap reasons and Ekblad is signed to a decent contract longer term.

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04 Apr 2020 04:10:22
That's the hard part loxley. Marlies are empty. Replaces Kapanen and Kerfoot isn't easy I'm not sure how he plans on doing it.

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04 Apr 2020 04:08:54
As the cap goes up Sandin and Liljigren will want more as well. Dubas kind of backed himself into a corner here. It's either Marner or Nylander+ Kapanen and replace them with league min guys.

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04 Apr 2020 04:07:34
Hyman can do far better than 4/ 4. At his age this is Hyman last payday he will want long term. If your giving him 4 it has to be on an 8 year deal with the max allowable in signing bonuses. Even then he can probably get better but may do it as a favor.

That isn't a good trade. Marner can get something decent on his own and Reilly cap hit vs his play he is worth a helluva lot more.

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