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24 Jan 2021 15:19:56
Keeping it rolling this weekend with the wild trades since its -52 outside, so here's another beaut! For the 2021 expansion/player draft floor(s).

So I'm letting Thornton and Spezza walk off into the sunset! Thanks for coming out b'ys!
Bogosain and Boyd cap savings cuts and also thanks for coming out.
Expansion Draft Protection list as follows
Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Mathews, Hymn, Kerfoot, Riley, Muzzin, Brodie and Andersen
Then at the expansion draft floor make these trades!

Tor gets
Nashville's 2nd round picks 2021 & 2022

Nashville gets
Holl D

Tor gets
Edmonton's 2nd round picks 2021 & 2022

Oilers gets
Dermot D

Bottom line, draft defence with those picks and permanently move up Liljigren and Sandin. Live by the draft sword and die by the draft sword! Now that these trades are done and we're not watching them go bye bye to Seattle for nothing we move onto the player draft!
Assuming none of these player got picked up by Seattle.

Tor gets
Seguin C/RW

Dallas gets
Marner RW
Toronto's 2nd round pick 2021

Tor gets
Crouse LW

Arizona gets
Engvall LW/C
Kivihalme D

Tor gets
Kassian RW

Oilers get
Kerfoot LW/C/RW

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Seguin
Robertson/Tavares/Kassian
Crouse/Nylander/Mikheyev
Barabanov/Hallander/Korshkov
Extras: Brooks & Maglin

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Brodie
Muzzin/Lethenon
Sandin/Liljigren
Extras: sign some fill'er in'er kind of characters!

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
And we assume no one wants our Campbell soup so he's back!

I'm pretty sure I've kept it under the cap got some pick depth and never lost anything of real importance to the expansion draft beside our defensive depth. That said I did scoop 4/2nd round picks while only giving up 1/2nd round pick.
Anyway something to think about! Should start some new trade trends for the rest of this day.

Peace!

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1.) 24 Jan 2021 15:59:42
I like your ideas very well thought out

I’ll only point out 1 thing. Unless Hyman and Andersen sign extensions before the expansion draft then no need to protect.

Other than that not bad at all.


2.) 25 Jan 2021 16:55:18
I love the idea.

if the draft and develop model is so important to this organization then trust in it, stop blocking the path and progression of some of these guys, and let them contribute in a meaningful way.

Love Dermott and Holl both, but are they really going to be the better long term solution?

Unfortunately, we don’t have a long time to figure it out.


 

 

23 Jan 2021 21:56:00
3-way deal coming right up!

Tor gets
McJesus C
Kassian RW

Oilers get
Marner RW
Nylander C/RW
Sandin D
Liljigren D
Toronto's 1st round pick 2021
Seattle 2nd round pick 2021

Seattle gets
Toronto's 1st round pick 2022 via Edmonton
James Neal LW/RW
Edmonton 3rd round picks 2021 & 2022

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/McJesus/Mathews
Robertson/Tavares/Kassian
Mikheyev/Kerfoot/Vesey
Simmonds/Engvall/Thornton
Extras: Boyd, Spezza & Barabanov

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Brodie
Muzzin/Holl
Dermot/Lethenon
Extras: Bogosain & Rosen

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg

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1.) 24 Jan 2021 11:21:57
That works cap wise but now Edmonton has one more less capable nhl top 9 player by dealing 3 forwards for 2
Draisaitl marner rnh nylander

After this it’s 2 rookies you hope stay healthy long enough or can be good enough all year to fill 2 vacant top 6 spots
After that archibald chaisson and turris are a decent enough 3rd line but archibald is better suited for 4th line role. There 4th line is still worse in the league making spezza and Brooks look like studs. They become 1 injury away from being a disaster if they already aren’t there.
If that happens chaisson or turris could fill in top 6 but not for long. If this happens now the bottom 6 is in real deep trouble.

Right now having Neal with rnh and 1 of their young guys on the wing works. Then the other young guy gets to play 4th line and although the 4th line is still a stinker it’s not as much of a stinker then if this deal went through

Edmonton’s problem isn’t talent they have so much of it. Problem is that talent is only a few players deep. Edmonton has horrible forward depth. Dealing mcdavid would need to address this.

You did find a creative way to find cap space though so good job with that.


 

 

23 Jan 2021 14:42:41
Tor gets
McJesus C
Kassian RW

Oilers get
Marner RW
Nylander C/RW
Sandin D
Liljigren D
Toronto's 1st round pick 2021 & 2022

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/McJesus/Mathews
Robertson/Tavares/Kassian
Thornton/Kerfoot/Mikheyev
Simmonds/Engvall/Vesey
Extras: Boyd, Spezza & Barabanov

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Brodie
Muzzin/Holl
Dermot/Lethenon
Extras: Bogosain & Rosen

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg

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1.) 23 Jan 2021 16:47:10
I like this deal very much but unfortunetly Edmonton is so over the cap that they need to bury a capable bottom 6 player in khaira simply to save the team 1.125 million in cap. Instead it costs team .175 to bury him but only use him as emergency call up. Much like engvall he gets crappy end of deal because any contract between 1.175-1.3 are best contracts to bury as per the bury formula.
Not only that using him in a trade ends up saving Edmonton only .175 on their cap not the 1.3 he makes. Much like engvall again. I point this out so if anyone is reading this to try to remember if you deal a bury contracted player his cap savings is only that of his buried amount to team dealing player but his cap hit is full hit to team he goes to just so there is no confusion.

On top of that Edmonton needs to use klefbolm 4.1 million in LTIR just to get oilers under cap. So once klefbolm comes back if at all Edmonton is in deep trouble.

After all that my point is even if anyone likes or even agreed to this deal Toronto is handing Edmonton 17.5 in cap and only giving away 15.7 in cap so the deal is 1.8 million to much

Sorry

But I do like the thought.


2.) 23 Jan 2021 21:13:17
Would have to take back some for of cap dump but I like it.


3.) 23 Jan 2021 22:01:17
I looked over oilers roster and the guys making 1.8 and above are all the depth players oilers have. Also leafs would need to take back a guy making 2.5 million so oilers can replace that player dealt and his vacant roster spot with at least a league minimum. The more the player taking that spot makes (just for example one of sandin/ liljegren .866) then the player dealt now needs to be worth 2.666. I like that final digest on that number and that is an example of the oilers are in.

I mean they could hand over RNH instead of kassian to now save a big 1 million but now leafs are over cap. Plus that probably defeats purpose of getting marner/ nylander for mcdavid.

You could get cap closer with James Neal but again leafs are still a smidge over cap still

You could go after nurse and hand over holl but mcdavid kassian nurse for nylander marner holl now is in favor of leafs. Larsson could be the guy with Holl included but trading a Larsson for any hall/ holl any way you spell it would be once again won by team dealing or receiving a hall/ holl. That leaves kris Russell. Him for holl favors oilers now so this deal now can happen. Oh wait Russell has a 15 team trade list and being from Alberta I hardly doubt leafs would be on it. Klefbolm for holl covers the cap hit but now Edmonton becomes 3.8 over cap without klefbolm LTIR so no dice. You could get Edmonton to give up bear and his 2 million but now Toronto owes one or both of amirov and Robertson. Would you do that? plus who would leafs put on waivers to add bear. Dermott vesey spezza again I mean it’s all complicated but still here’s the remake counter deal

Nylander
Marner
Sandin
Liljegren
Robertson
Amirov
2 1sts

For
Mcdavid
Kassian
Bear



So as you see no matter how you look at it marner/ nylander for mcdavid/ kassian doesn’t work. It simply doesn’t no matter how you slice it dice it maneuver bodies. It simply won’t work.

Even replacing kassian with Neal or rnh would only make it so vesey get thrown in deal

Nylander marner vesey Sandin liljegren 2 1st
For
Mcdavid RNH or Neal

Edmonton would laugh so hard

That’s it folks it was long it was pointless but unless you deal only nylander along with kerfoot vesey Sandin liljegren 2 1st and probably 1 of Robertson or amirov

Or
Marner with vesey and Sandin liljegren 1 of Robertson or amirov and 2 1sts

I don’t see mcdavid coming to Toronto unless you start with Matthews

Sorry.


 

 

23 Jan 2021 08:46:02
Tor gets
Dubois C
Jones D

Columbus gets
Marner RW
Holl D
Engvall C
Toronto's 1st round picks 2021 and 2022.

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Dubois
Vesey/Tavares/Kerfoot
Thornton/Nylander/Mikheyev
Robertson/Spezza/Barabanov
Extras: Boyd & Brooks

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Jones
Muzzin/Brodie
Dermot/Bogosain
Extras: Sandin & Liljigren

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg

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1.) 23 Jan 2021 14:03:27
Not bad. Don’t think marner holl is enough to lure Jones away from Columbus. The 1st rounder picks are probably late teens to mid 20s picks so might not really move the needle enough to get Jones. Engvall definetly would be a solid throw in to any deal with Columbus as he is Columbus type player

I think a Dubois Jones deal starts and finishes with Matthews and Matthews alone.


2.) 24 Jan 2021 13:20:40
Apparently retaining some of laine and throwing in a Columbus boy gets you Dubois

Lmfao Chevy.


 

 

23 Jan 2021 00:23:12
Tor gets
Dubois C
Jones D

Columbus gets
Marner RW
Liljigren D
Holl D
Robertson LW
Toronto's 1st & 2nd round picks 2021

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Nylander
Kerfoot/Tavares/Vesey
Thornton/Dubois/Mikheyev
Simmonds/Spezza/Barabanov
Extras: Engvall, Boyd & Brooks

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Jones
Muzzin/Brodie
Dermot/Lethenon
Extras: Bogosain & Sandin

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg

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1.) 23 Jan 2021 04:24:49
Holl has grown on me a lot. I actually think so far this season he had been the most consistent D man they have. I wouldn't want to trade this much for Jones and Dubois as much as I like them both.


 

 

 

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21 Jan 2021 21:29:04
I was lol.

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21 Jan 2021 15:27:09
Lol I loved the hotwing comment that’s an old site friend.

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30 Dec 2020 12:24:15
They think I’m out to lunch! My god then your out for the last supper because that’s one ugly proposal!
Cheers and Merry Christmas and of course a happy new year!

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21 Dec 2020 16:37:21
I also don’t usually reply but I think I did cover the cap spread on these trades I may be over a little bit but it has to be close! I bet some capologist on here could quickly tell us if I was over or not! For the record Fluery always comes out of the gate hot with the new team.

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27 Nov 2020 00:49:35
I have to give credit it’s a doozy of a trade! I may have to throw my version out there and give it a try.
I agree with LL it’s definitely a doable deal but you have to bring Crazy eyes Kassian along some how. Lol! Cheers nice fantasy trade.

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