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25 Apr 2024 10:23:16
To Tor: Anders Lee, Palmieri, Pulock, 2nd
To NYI: Marner, Lily, Minten, Robertson.
1.) 25 Apr 2024 12:50:23
Can't get behind a trade that sends most of the Leafs youth for aging players. Lee and Palmieri are both 33and Pulock 29. Make it something around Marner for Pulock and Palmieri and I could probably get behind it. I doubt Marner waives for NYI though.
2.) 27 Apr 2024 01:22:39
Really?
Why would Leafs want Lee (33 years old) and Palmieri (33 years old) except to balance the cap implications?
Basically your giving up Marner, Robertson and Liljegren for Pulock and a 2nd.
01 Mar 2024 12:30:09
I watched the Sea/ Pitt game last night after the Leafs game. Borgen looks good. A legit top 4 defender that can skate, play physical and be reliable in his own end.
My trade for the final piece on the back end;
To Tor: Borgen
To Sea: Lily, Robertson, 2024 3rd rd, 4th rd picks
Rielly Borgen
Benoit McCabe
Brodie Boosh.
1.) 01 Mar 2024 13:16:56
Clarky I don't think Borgen is worth all this, he's a 3rd pairing Dman possibly can play 2nd pairing next year. Seems like a high price for me.
2.) 01 Mar 2024 13:57:54
You r short on R dmen but u give one up makes no sense to trade lily.
3.) 01 Mar 2024 14:19:46
I'm on board with trading lily I don't he'll be anymore than a 3rd pairing d man . Borgen is big and physical and signed to a good contract for another year. A good offer.
4.) 01 Mar 2024 15:39:05
A good prop but I think it may be an overpay by the Leafs. He is starting to get more ice time, but I wouldn't say he is an established 2nd pair D yet. If he can, good contract and maybe be worth Lily, Robertson and a 3rs.
5.) 01 Mar 2024 17:51:15
@Tags no chance Borgen is a 3rd pairing D. This guy would be our 3rd best D and close to McCabe. He would be a top pairing guy for us being our best RHD. Watch this gem play. I thought he looked better than Larsson yesterday.
6.) 01 Mar 2024 19:33:12
Clarky I hope you're right if we get him. I saw him against Boston and wasn't very impressed. Everyone has good and bad games, but I would still put him ahead of Lily.
I just think the offer is a bit much and would try a bit bigger deal including Tanev as well.
7.) 01 Mar 2024 22:01:19
@Tags I thought of adding in Tanev but he is at 3.5M with term left. Don’t see them retaining and would be hard to fit that space under the cap.
8.) 02 Mar 2024 02:46:09
I like Borgen and feel he would be the perfect partner, stylistically, for Morgan Reilly.
I do not like the idea of trading one RHD for another RHD when Leafs biggest need is RHD.
Take out Liljegren and add Niemala and Tverberg.
9.) 02 Mar 2024 13:23:54
Borgen IS a decent target but that’s far too much to pay!
I pass.
26 Feb 2024 00:49:51
To Tor: Crouse, Brown, 2nd 2024
To Arz: Jarnkrok, Robertson, Minten, 1st 2024, 3rd 2025
2nd trade:
To Tor: Tanev (1.5M retained)
To Cgy: Arz 2nd rd pick 2024, Tor 4th 2025, Brodie (he agrees if they flip him to a contender for a 2nd or 3rd pick with retention) . Cgy could a 2nd (Arz), 3rd and 4th from Tor for Tanev.
Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Domi Nylander
McMann JT Crouse
Holmberg Kampf Reaves
Gregor
Rielly Tanev
McCabe Brown
Benoit Lily
Lagesson
Brown is a 5/ 6 guy but I think we would be more well rounded if he played with McCabe instead of Benoit.
1.) 26 Feb 2024 03:07:20
I don’t think Brown (32g, 1g, 5a, -4) is any more effective than Benoit but Crouse would be a terrific player for Leafs to target.
To Coyotes: 2024 - 1st, 3rd, Minten, one (1) of Tverberg, Voit, Lisowsky, Hirvonen, Jarnkrok ($2.1, for cap), Reaves $1.35), Jones ($875,000)
To Leafs: Crouse ($4.3), late 2nd via Florida (Coyotes have 3 - 2nd round picks)
In: $4.3
Out: $4.35
Crouse - Matthews - Marner
Knies - Domi - Nylander
McMann - Tavares - Robertson
Holmberg - Kampf - Kunin (SJS)
Would be a formidable lineup.
Now to add that RHD partner for Reilly.
To Calgary: 2024 - 2nd via Florida, 2024 - 4th via Leafs plus a “B” prospect if necessary.
Reilly - Tanev
Brodie - McCabe
Benoit - Liljegren
Giordano - Lagesson - Timmins.
2.) 26 Feb 2024 13:41:21
Creative.
Jarnkrok, Robertson a 1st and 3rd may get Crouse alone. If Leafs are adding Minten, I'd want McBain as well if I were the Leafs. As much as they like McBain, he is a 3/ 4C for them. Most of the time, he only plays 11-12 mins a night. Hard to ask for a huge return on a guy they play 11-12 mins.
So this is my counter as I can't see Brown playing 2nd pair on the Leafs.
Arz
Jarnkrok
Robertson
Minten
2024 1st
Tor
Crouse
McBain
As for the 2nd deal, I think we need to add a better option than Lagesson or Gio as a partner for Rielly without subtracting a guy like Brodie.
3.) 26 Feb 2024 15:03:08
Nice props guys! Both make sense and would make us better. You guys are probably right on Brown. Maybe better to go after two F but don’t think we would get a 2nd back to go after Tanev.
@WB I personally can’t take Reaves out of the lineup. He is playing good and guys are playing tougher with him in the lineup. I think we need someone to take Robertsons spot in F on the 3rd line (which Jarnkrok will be coming back), makes Robo trade bait.
@RLF I think Brodie would have to be in a deal with that much money coming in. Not too many teams want to retain money.
4.) 26 Feb 2024 16:34:31
All we need at this moment is someone solid to play beside Reilly. Need to find another Luke Schenn type of guy. Can play the minutes and back up Reilly.
18 Feb 2024 17:51:34
Alright giving up a bit for mostly guys with term and Sean Walker who we should be able to resign at a decent AAV. I think he is looking between 4-5M in his new contract. I put the years they have left beside their name.
1st trade:
To Tor: Hathaway (UFA-3), Laughton (UFA-3), Walker (UFA-1)
To Phi: Brodie, Lily, Niemela, Robertson, 1st pick 2024, 3rd rd 2025
2nd trade:
To Tor : Burroughs (UFA-3)
To SJ: Reaves, Timmins, 3rd pick 2024
3rd trade:
To Tor: Borgen (UFA-2)
To Sea: Tverberg, Lagesson, 5th rd pick 2024, 3rd rd pick 2026
Playoff Lineup:
McMann Matthews Marner
Bert JT Domi
Knies Laughton Nylander
Holmberg Kampf Hathaway IR* Jarnkrok
Rielly Walker
McCabe Borgen
Benoit Burroughs
Gio.
1.) 18 Feb 2024 19:47:12
Domi is not a second line player. He’s barely a third line centre.
2.) 18 Feb 2024 22:55:37
What are you talking about? Domi has been playing good. And it’s not about what line you think he should be. It’s about what’s best for the team and giving all 3 lines an equal chance to be successful.
3.) 18 Feb 2024 23:34:24
McMann plays well for a game and gets anointed a first line winger? You clearly are enamoured with Domi for some reason. He’s a liability defensively and is on pace for what, 8 goals? Yah let’s put him on the second line and move Nylander.
4.) 19 Feb 2024 00:47:02
It’s called depth scoring. They have been putting their best players on two lines for years now and how is it working out? Every line Domi has been in for the past while has been one of the best lines every game (Matthews and his hat tricks are exempt) . When the big guys are in the lineup, Domi/ Bert/ Knies are getting like 10 minutes a game and barely any PP time. What are you expecting them to do? How come every time some of these big names are out of the lineup we play more like a team and win more often then not? Give these guys some minutes and a chance, than evaluate them but as of right now they are set up to fail.
5.) 19 Feb 2024 03:04:21
There is no way that Ron Francis is giving away Borgen for 2 AHL players a 3rd and a 5th.
6.) 19 Feb 2024 13:02:58
CKPS would still have McMann in the press box or on the Marlies. He has often said McMann is barely a 4th liner and has said Domi is barely a 3rd line centre all season. Domi had 49 pts in 60 games as a 2nd line C in Chicago. He is on pace for 40-45 pts as a 3rd line C in Toronto with very little PP time. Domi is not that great defensively I would agree, but also why he should be on a more offensive line and not a two-way/ defensive line. He's had 3 seasons over 50 pts, but in all 3 he has been playing 17-18 mins a night, not the 13 he gets in Toronto. I was not a fan of the Leafs signing Max. I give credit where it is due. He has played well and brings an element this team sorely lacks. Some grit and stands up for teammates. It was mostly new guys who went after Gudas. It wasn't the players he embarrassed last playoffs yelling in Woll's face that went after him besides McCabe.
But let's get rid of the McMann's and the Domi's and go back to Dubas hockey. We all loved that high skill no push back pond hockey so much didn't we.
7.) 19 Feb 2024 17:30:53
Amen RLF. I think CKPS is trolling us to get a rise. Not sure what games he is watching.
8.) 19 Feb 2024 21:51:17
I agree with not wanting domi. Holmberg could do replace him at a much cheaper cap hit . McMann has had a good week and deserves a longer look.
17 Feb 2024 17:48:20
Burroughs from SJ is also another quality candidate for cheap. Costs as much as Timmins and has the same bite as Benoit/ Seeler but on the right side.
1.) 17 Feb 2024 23:25:46
Clarky17
I think the leafs need to resign McMann quick it won’t take a lot one way contract and 3 years
We don’t want this cat heading to UFA.
2.) 18 Feb 2024 00:57:02
I’m with you D1M.
He’s gaining some confidence which is always a good thing.
One-way is correct.
3.) 18 Feb 2024 03:56:35
I’m not letting jarnknok own top three lines
All the leafs need is three lines that can score
Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
McMann Domi Robertson
To me Jarnknok is either forthline and special teams or trade bait. It took Keefe far too long to find and insert McMann
On the goal McMann scored set up by Robertson I swore that was Matthews b4 I got a glimpse of his number .
I don’t blow assets this year I don’t think Matthews Nylander Marner Tavares and Reilly are going to be pushovers this playoff season.
It’s lining up that. Toronto get Boston Tampa or Detroit in first round. Boston are really fading and have a hard schedule the rest of the way .
4.) 18 Feb 2024 04:04:39
Boston remaining games
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Leaf's
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5.) 18 Feb 2024 04:31:59
lol I’m talking about getting Burroughs from SJ, what does that have to do with signing McMann (although I agree) . I’ve been putting him on the top line for weeks.
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27 Apr 2024 17:08:33
Dewar is out and Robertson plays on the 4th line. Good decision ?♂️.
1.) 27 Apr 2024 18:41:32
Keefe makes a lot of confusing decisions, but this one is something else. Dewar has been a momster on that 4th line.
2.) 27 Apr 2024 18:58:11
If he actually does it, how stupid do you have to be. The 4th line has arguably been the best line shift to shift in their role. So the plan is, break it up. Better sit McCabe and bring in Lavoie as well, as that would make about as much sense.
25 Apr 2024 10:29:40
Well Folks who starts game 4? Do we ride Sammy out or give Woll a chance? Tough one, I think if you take Sammy out, his confidence is shot and Woll may not be any better. But I personally think Woll has more upside and is our goalie of the future so might as well get him in there to see how he handles it? I’m up in the air in this one.
1.) 25 Apr 2024 12:34:35
Keefe doesn’t have the stones to make the switch end of the day stars are not being stars so doesn’t matter who’s in the net goalies can’t score.
2.) 25 Apr 2024 12:44:51
Clarky. Last night I don't think the Leafs played overly well, but Sammy was OK. OK isn't good enough. The first goal, just over 2 minutes left in the 2nd period, he gets beat short side from the side boards. Can't go in. The second goal, first two minutes of the 3rd, shot hits him in the glove it drops out right in front of him for an easy rebound goal. That's not good enough. He made some nice saves, but in a 1-0 game, that tying goal was brutal. Sammy has had one poor game, then a great game then an ok game. I still think Woll should have been the goalie to start game 1.
Let's go to Keefe. His decision to up Marner's playing time is a complete head scratcher. Yes, Marner made a nice play on the 1st goal, but was mostly brutal and Keefe insists on giving him ice-time to "get him going. " This is the playoffs, not regular season. You play the guys who are going. He took ice from the 4th line and gave it to the 2nd line. Reaves played 7 mins, Dewar 10 and Kampf 12:45 last night while Marner got a series high of over 23 mins. At this point, if Willy still can't go Saturday, then I would actually rather see Robertson tale Marner's spot on the 2nd line and Marner go to the 3rd line. If Willy can, then Robertson sits, Willy 2nd line and Marner 3rd line.
The whole Dubas style needs to go. Keefe should have been let go and replaced before the season started. I think Tree has built a better playoff style team, but he made a mistake in keeping Keefe. imo.
3.) 25 Apr 2024 17:59:32
@RLF that's pretty much exactly what I would have said as well.
Sammy hasn't been bad, but you don't win letting in these mediocre goals. I think Sammy will start unless it's really bad.
Mitchy does this every year. I have no doubt this is just who he is. He cannot play in physical series'. He doesn't match up well with the B's or Cats.
Willy plays the same style of trying to avoid getting hit, but he's a much better skater, and does a better job avoiding contact without looking scared. Not to say Willy is any different, he does make horrible decisions to avoid contact, but less often.
21 Apr 2024 16:14:24
Out coached again. Just like I promoted earlier. We are going to lose because wingers are caught too low in our end (Knies lines goal against) and MF’ing turnovers. Hey Sheldon if your breakout is to make 100 ft passes across the ice and hope it doesn’t get intercepted, this is going to be a quick 4 games. I do not get how you don’t make an in game adjustment realizing they are picking apart your break out. Instead of 100’ passes, wingers come across and support the puck on a break out constant chip off the boards and dump the MF’ing puck in every MF’n time unless you have numbers. Boston has half the skill we have but when everyone is willing to buy in to their game plan on their team and the Leafs don’t really have one. Gonna make for Bruins in 6. Yes a couple of bad penalties, max was over excited but didn’t see any antics from Marchand last game. I just think that we are going against a well oiled machine and we are just a bunch of expensive parts with no mechanic to put the pieces together.
1.) 21 Apr 2024 20:51:18
Clarky. I'm not a big fan of Keefe's style of coaching either. If we don't get better goaltending and stay out of the box, it's going to be really tough and this is where coaching could make a big difference, but we know we don't have an advantage there either. How about we trade Keefe for Sullivan. Dubas would likely go for it.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 21:17:51
@RLF Sammy was screened for most of them because our coaching style is for D out front of our net to be trying to block the shots? Instead of boxing out the man in front. Why are we not boxing out the front of the net? Why are our D trying to play goalie? The rebounds out front of our net is like a game of hungry, hungry Hippo. If everyone is saying that we played well and we had a good effort, then what’s the reason for the 5-1 loss? We had more hits, shots were even. We didn’t have more than a handful of decent chances on Swayman. Watch how Boston is out front of their net compared to us. Even in their own end, everyone plays their position on Boston where as the Leafs are running around. Hard for me to see the Leafs beating Boston anymore than 2 games just based on defensive play and turnovers. Sorry for my frustration Leaf fans, just feels the same every year. ?♂️.
3.) 21 Apr 2024 23:43:43
Clarky. Same system they have played all year. How did Sammy see the puck prior when he was playing well then? I thought the game was pretty even. As I said below, penalties and goaltending was the difference imo. When you take too many penalties, offensive flow gets disrupted and your best players get cold and hard to get into a flow when you keep having to sit for stretches.
They need to stay out of the box and we need better goaltending. Can't have easy seeing eye shots go in. Yes there was a screen on a couple of goals, but the shots didn't go through 5 guys or anything. Both of those goals were one player screens pretty much. Samsonov has to look around those kind of screens. If he can't, he's letting in 5 every game.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 00:59:37
@Clarky I agree that some of those Sammy wasn't to blame. Lilly looked like his controller disconnected on the first goal, Edmonson was brought in to clear net front, but failed, on and on.
The biggest issue coming from me with Sammy, is you need saves sometimes. Yes, he can't stop them all with that in front of him, but he could have gotten one or two just to keep it close.
It's always the scoring that drops off. It's never letting in goals. Say Sammy only let's in two. Great game. Still a loss.
5.) 22 Apr 2024 12:53:45
LL. That's it. You need a save. I remember saves from Swayman that I thought should have been goals, but I can't remember any that I thought Sammy saves a goal there. Especially on goals 2 and 4. The second goal by Carlo, Samsonov sees the shot and simply gets beat. They have a great replay of it where there is no real screen, he can see the shot. The 4th one, he overplays the down low pass and slides past his net, so when DeBrusk tips the pass out front he even still hits Sammy's arm and it drops in. Had Sammy not slid past the net, it hits him in the chest. Leafs outshot them like 36-23. 5PP's for Boston to 3 for Toronto and Boston scores on 2 of theirs and both came in the last 30 seconds of the penalties. I think that 4th goal was with like 4 seconds left in the PP.
I also would say what I said about our 3rd line coming into the series. We are not winning with a 3rd line made up of the likes of Holmberg, Robertson and Jarnkrok. Need a big heavy 3rd line.
My opinion. Need goaltending to be better. We need a big stop at a crucial time. Stop taking bad penalties and can't keep that 3rd line together.
20 Apr 2024 17:17:53
So who is gonna be our best player tonight in game 1? I think Bert and Domi are ready to rock. Even though Mackin has traded you both 10 times this year already. Domi on F and Benoit on D are the two MVP’s for me today. With an honourable mention to Reavo for getting the boys fired up with some big hits! Pylonder might be good because Keefe called him out, if he plays I guess.
1.) 20 Apr 2024 17:46:58
Clarky. I agree, got to go with the gritty guys as being noticeable. Although, I have a feeling Matthews is going to be a beast tonight. Not suggesting he gets a hat trick or anything. I just think he will be noticeable whenever he is on the ice. In some ways, missing 70 may be a blessing. If he got 70, he may feel a sense of accomplishment, but because he didn't, he may be feeling there is some unfinished business to take care of.
2.) 20 Apr 2024 18:09:06
Might be a cop out, but I think it's Mathews.
If I'm also naming a D, then Brodie. He finally gets it together for the playoffs.
3.) 20 Apr 2024 22:37:29
I am taking the more obvious bet as well, Matthews will have a STUD game. I'm also looking forward to seeing how Holmberg plays.
And from the backend, I'm thinkng McCabe has a good game.
4.) 21 Apr 2024 01:51:47
Not Samsonov.
4-0
Going to bed.
5.) 21 Apr 2024 14:29:29
Bert and Domi provide snarl but Domi gets stupid once in a while (took two poor penalties) and Bert was careless with his stick (and took a penalty) .
The Bruins have better discipline and are smart/ sly in how they draw penalties. Coyle embellished the Benoit penalty; as soon as he felt the stick he grasped it with his hand, pulled it upwards and did his tumble.
Why can’t we do that?
15 Apr 2024 19:32:02
No chance Robertson sees a game in the playoffs. Unless there are some injuries but Florida would eat him up and spit him out. He is a smaller Willy with less skill. Take out Brodie for playoffs for heavens sake Sheldon, please.
I hope he keeps these lines spreads out. Team is NOT playing solid defence since they got in the playoffs. Hopefully that changes when it matters.
Bert Matthews Domi - plays against Bennett line
McMann JT Nylander
Holmberg Kampf Marner - shut down line (plays against Barkov/ Reinhardt line)
Knies Dewar Reaves
Rielly Boosh
Benoit McCabe
Edmundson Lily.
1.) 16 Apr 2024 02:41:12
I'm with you on sitting Brodie. I'd probably even put Gio in instead of Brodie at this point.
2.) 16 Apr 2024 13:39:40
I don't mind that at all Clarky. Willy is not suited for 3rd line duty. It's not exactly what I would like to see, but it looks pretty solid. I'd be tempted to switch Holmberg and Knies if making a minor tweak even though I concede Holmberg is more dependable defensively. Either or though.
3.) 16 Apr 2024 14:21:43
Doubt Marner goes for this.
4.) 16 Apr 2024 20:07:10
Shouldn’t be up to Marner. Coach should make decisions on what’s best for the team.
5.) 16 Apr 2024 23:16:05
I wouldn't be shocked Clarky.
McMann-Tavares-Nylander line was playing well during Marner's injury.
Why didn't Keefe just leave the line as is and just play Marner on the 3rd line?
It would have seemed like the logical change without disrupting the other lines.
IMO Marner needs to be coddled . simple as that.
I just think plating Marner with Kampf would not go over well with Mitch.
26 Apr 2024 14:05:22
Sorry but when does Willys head ever get touched? He doesn’t execute go in the corners of there is a chance of being hit.
12 Apr 2024 18:16:56
@Tags and RLF, then you are going back to a two line team and defeating the purpose of what they’re trying to do. I hope they stick to the lines spread out and becoming harder to defend against.
12 Apr 2024 12:54:44
@86Arens that’s exactly how I would have my lines too. Marner and Nylander are interchangeable but I like the rest. Brodie is off your list too, I like it. Jarnkrok can sit for the first game or two until someone plays a bad game.
12 Apr 2024 12:50:11
Very disappointing WB. How quickly we forget our Leafs getting manhandled last year in playoffs. Reaves is a big part in a change. IMO. The team plays different with him in the lineup. Guys like MacDermaid (yesterday) aren’t running around looking to hurt people. If Reaves isn’t in the lineup game 1, I would be extremely disappointed in Sheldon’s decision making. Same goes for Benoit, he is a main stay.
27 Mar 2024 17:14:27
Robertson is not an NHL player. AHL all star.
25 Apr 2024 10:25:43
Maybe he is missing a twig and berries between his legs.
23 Apr 2024 18:08:31
No Brodie, especially on the right side please!
23 Apr 2024 18:08:03
I believe he does have another level too but hard to complain about Matthews giving 8 out of 10 when there are still some Leafs playing at a 5.
23 Apr 2024 18:06:15
LL I totally agree with you. I don’t want to be too negative on a good game. But yes Marner does not elevate his game for playoffs. I also still find the wingers dropping too low in our end, seen Bert chasing a few times. But not as bad as game 1. Other than that great effort by most, Sammy played well with some big saves. The big difference between game 1 and 2 for me (other than penalties) was the lack of turnovers in the neutral zone. They were dumping the puck in more often and getting on the forecheck. Boston waits for teams to make mistakes, if we keep the game simple our offence should be able to put score theirs. IMO of course.
21 Apr 2024 21:17:51
@RLF Sammy was screened for most of them because our coaching style is for D out front of our net to be trying to block the shots? Instead of boxing out the man in front. Why are we not boxing out the front of the net? Why are our D trying to play goalie? The rebounds out front of our net is like a game of hungry, hungry Hippo. If everyone is saying that we played well and we had a good effort, then what’s the reason for the 5-1 loss? We had more hits, shots were even. We didn’t have more than a handful of decent chances on Swayman. Watch how Boston is out front of their net compared to us. Even in their own end, everyone plays their position on Boston where as the Leafs are running around. Hard for me to see the Leafs beating Boston anymore than 2 games just based on defensive play and turnovers. Sorry for my frustration Leaf fans, just feels the same every year. ?♂️.